Harbor Freight 12000lb Winch MUD Test

While it was SLOW, it did get us out.
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[@foejish2]

These guys should not be "making" winching videos. They should be "watching" winching videos so they can see how it should be done. Oh my gosh.

[@dekonfrost7]

Joseph Fish you know you were a idiot too when you were this young. I know you laughed, so in your youth its about figuring it all out.

[@Wotansvolk1972]

I'd say some appropriate tires as well O.o

[@johnboy5235]

Hell yes

[@johnboy5235]

Mine is earned not bought 🤙

[@chaos276]

A winch review from reviewers who have no idea how to install/use a winch 👍

[@tunafish3216]

You don't go mudding with street tires.

[@broncodude6299]

Truer words have NEVER been spoken!!

[@Aarronching]

I was thinking the same thing.... those tires are crap lol wouldn't need a winch lol and who pulls back words??? The game is to go forward haha

[@Tearyatobitz]

Those tires look pretty bad for even the street lmao 😂

[@elsey1976]

Tuna Fish they did

[@jmw16969]

I think nascar slicks got more nuts than those bald turds

[@lakeschoolrestorationchann1567]

Couple things, some of which have been touched on previously. 1) be sure to stay clear of the winch line and put something on the cable incase it snaps. 2) that winch can pull upwards of 400+ amps at full load. The longer the power feed lines the more the resistance. 14 foot of 0ga wire is technically not "enough" wire to get proper power at the winch for as long of a run as you had, and it didn't look like you had as big as 0ga wire. If the winch can't get the power it needs through the wire, it will get much hotter, and lose torque, thus your unsatisfactory results. 3) for safety always attach the winch cable to a tree saver, at the bottom of the tree. It appeared you wrapped the cable around the tree, this can cause premature failure of the wire rope/kink it. Attaching it high on the tree increases the torque on the root ball, and you can pull the tree right over onto your vehicle. 4). Winches rated pulling power is assuming your pulling with only 4/5 single wraps of the drum (aka the when the rope starts feeding its touching the empty drum. When you have 4 to 5 complete layers on the drum like I saw in your video your torque is massively reduced. You were probably only pulling with less than half the rated power or less just from this. 5) invest in a snatch block/rated pulley. Had you ran a pulley on the tree and ran your line back to your bumper you would have done three things. (1) you would have had more line out off the drum which would have increased the winches leverage significantly, (2) you would have doubled your torque due to mechanical advantage at a expense of line speed, and (3) because of 1 and 2 the winch would have drawn significantly less amperage, wouldn't have been struggling/ran much cooler, and it would have pulled the vehicle out better. Also it's worth noting that it's worth it to wire up everything properly from a safety perspective as well. A 400 amp almost dead short pull on a undersized power cable is a good recipe to melt wires and cause a vehicle wrecking fire. I have seen this happen first hand from a bad winch wiring setup. It's also smart to go off roading with a friend and have a bubba rope or similar snatch strap. It's much quicker to give a quick tug than to use a winch as you did to get out. With that said good luck on your off road adventures.

[@joecorrie1]

Lake School Restoration Channel well you know a little bit about electricity what you say is right but I think the bigger problem Was in the operation of the whole scenario

[@MrWorldasmaya]

Damn, that's some knowledge and expertise. Nice!

[@mynorescobar3583]

Who goes off-roading with those tires!!! Smh

[@andyvaldez7714]

Ya what he said! Lol

[@luigismushrooms5701]

Bravo!

[@kevinwaycaster]

Thanks for being man enough to post a video we can all learn from.!!! People act like they were born with all the knowledge and never had to learn new things geez. Kudos for being in the arena, fighting!

[@jericholee8360]

those are great winches. its not the winch bud. its the operator

[@marcpp]

Oh really?

[@makincash3337]

@@marcpp yes really

[@marcpp]

@@makincash3337 please tell me how to push the button like a pro. Lol

[@garagelife684]

@@marcpp Their running the winch in the back, and probably cheapen on cable size. The bare minimum I am going to run to the back of my Subaru Forester will be 1 or 1/0 gage battery cable, because of distance to the back. I say if you can afford it, run 4/0 ought cable to the rear.

[@johnboy5235]

@@marcpp it’s the ground and position of the mount

[@OhioLipRippers]

coming from someone who does a lot of offroading... please please please at least put a jacket over the cable in case it snaps and don't stand as close as you were.

[@earnestbunbury2103]

Or just don't upload the video where someone loses an arm/hand/leg

[@OutdoorsWithTurners]

yes that is very true i do ALOT of off-roading in rzrs and jeeps

[@TheRoadhammer379]

Bassmaster Garage , I was going to say it too. Those cables will kill, a jacket, floor mat or even a heavy branch will dissipate a lot of the energy.

[@cerealkilla8930]

Bassmaster Garage yeah. Exactly.

[@babypeyton2261]

Where do you put the jacket? Close to the winch?

[@scicero1]

Also, a snatch block could have doubled the strength, tires look horrible, and lastly winches are slow

[@Frostjackal]

this makes my brain hurt soooo many wrongs happening all at once

[@odah2866]

Yes I was thinking the same thing! No charge to battery, all hooked up wrong, I have the 9000 on my dodge that is twice the weight and pulls out of mud with ease

[@leehalv1]

get another battery dedicated just to the winch that still charges from your alternator..maybe even upgrade the alternator...the snatch block will help alot...oh and TIRES!!! lol

[@drewdouglas5797]

agreed

[@roblesinline6642]

Lee Halverson and this wire job on it oh god lmao

[@jeep2003]

and put the battery in the back close to the winch. those long cables kill power

[@leehalv1]

right the shorter the cables the better

[@fredrickfoster6564]

Lee Halverson agrees snatched block would help out those winches greatly

[@turdmuffin6757]

Lol I have a 9k harbor freight winch pulled my self in a Cherokee and a full size dodge truck never let off the winch for about 10 minutes! still works great

[@Jonathan-tb6fm]

Todd Perry good to know

[@ColeWr3]

1. please have your engine on so you don't kill the battery 2. don't feather the throttle like that you're going to burn it up much quicker. 3. that ground is crap and is probably what's causing it to smoke and be so weak, it needs to be clean bare metal

[@NoviceGarage]

For the record, the engine was running the entire time. Your other points are completely correct though.

[@RedRabbit4230]

Hey Novice Garage ( NG ) where do you guys live? Which state? and about what area? Just curious!

[@hilyardholler7326]

I have the 12K on my Jeep. I mostly pull logs for firewood when I can't cut them were they lay. A couple of times, I thought I was gonna rip my Jeep YJ in half, and rightly so, probably should have. This winch is a beast IMO.

[@RedFarmerGreen]

They're young, let them make their mistakes. That's how we all learned many of our lessons.

[@unimogdave]

With all that cable on the winch, its only about 6,000 lb. Find a farther tree or get a snatch block. Also any winching demo should be tree friendly so purchase a tree saver strap. Thanks for posting.

[@frankelmer8055]

This is the correct answer.

[@jafo321]

You have to consider that vehicle was in pretty deep. That was a hell of a load. Your winch depending on how much wire you have spooled will have different capacities. It's printed right there by the clutch handle. It tells you how much it's rated at according the layer of wire that's on the spool. Snatch block will help with a tree saver strap.

[@shadowsforgeshop1357]

I actually work at HF myself. I have been wanting to buy one of the 12ks myself. Just... watch the package. If its beat up, dont get it. As a person who unloads the truck, I see how we handle everything. I have no clue how 90% of our tools and shit isnt broken.

[@El_CID801]

How come I feel like I just watched a re-run of “Dumb & Dumber”

[@mickeysbest9099]

if the battery cable is longer than 9 ft long you may want to upgrade to bigger wire. and a really good ground

[@bushelfoot]

When you start stop the motor under load like that it keeps the motor current high try a steady retrieve, throw rocks or logs in the ruts to help lift the tires out of the mud, also using a high lift jack to lift the rear of the vehicle up then push it side ways off the jack puts you on high ground..

[@Tilley52]

didnt read all the comments to see if it was mentioned, but winches only pull their max rating at a single layer on the drum, so on a warn M12 for example, 1/layer=12000, by the time you get to layer 5 its down to 9200lbs, and just continues to get worse. Its basically changing the gear ratio cause it gets larger diameter. so if your winch is struggling always pull as much cable as possible to try and get to single layer, a snatch block is great because it allows you to get double the cable out for the same anchor point, plus it doubles the pulling power, cuts the cable load in half, at the cost of half the pull speed.

[@byronwhitney665]

I’m glad you acknowledged all the things that you learned at the end of the video. The winch brand new comes with a fuse/circuit breaker. The owners manual clearly indicates that the ground cable must be connected directly to the battery and the winch itself. And yes, the owners manual clearly states that using a double line (snatch block) rigging configuration should be used whenever possible. The owners manual states: A double line system should be used whenever possible. It reduces the load on the winch, allowing it to work longer with less heat buildup. It reduces load on the winch in two ways: * It utilizes the lower layers of the wire rope that have higher capacity, and * It halves the load on the winch through the pulley action. Also as pointed out by others, you need to use some type of device for whiplash dampening, just in case the cable fails. The owners manual suggests a blanket or rug. But there are also many others ways to achieve the same results. I admire your eagerness to learn and grow. But you don’t want to jeopardize your safety in the process. I’m not sure about this, but you might be able to find and read the owners manual on the Harbor Freight website. Safety is the #1 priority. Stop whatever you are doing when unsure. It may save your life or the life of others.

[@willardlong2899]

Get a pair of heavy duty jumper cables, cut the ends off and replace the winch end with a set of slave cable adaptors. These can be found at Northern tool and equipment. Go to the auto parts store and get eye ends for the battery end of the cables. Route the cables through the frame from the battery to the rear end and screw the slave cable adaptor to the hitch. You will have to cut the winches power cables in order to put on the other half of the slave adaptor. This allows your electrical hook ups to be permanently mounted to the vehicle, while allowing you to remove the winch mount.

[@fredal2264]

That's right keep spinning the wheels and digging in deeper. Wow

[@danburch9989]

6:50 Putting a snatch block on the tree does not double your pulling power; it only changes the direction of the pulling force. You need two snatch blocks (one at the tree, one at the vehicle). Run the cable from the winch to the tree snatch block, back to the vehicle snatch block, then back to the tree. science.howstuffworks.com/transport/engines-equipment/pulley.htm Another thing about ALL winches and their ratings. The rating only applies to one layer of rope or cable on the spool. Continue winching and you add layers of rope/cable to the spool That REDUCES the pulling force that the winch can provide because the spool has a bigger diameter as each layer of rope/cable piles onto the spool. When you get to 4-5 layers, your 12,000 lb winch is down to about a 6,500 lb winch. science.howstuffworks.com/transport/engines-equipment/pulley.htm

[@CraftwerksMC]

Guys I know this is an older video but one other thing to consider is that the outer layer of the spool is the least effective for pulling and if you combine that with the short duty cycle it will affect performance. If you spool that out really far and double it with an extension strap or extra cable you would double the capacity and extend the duty cycle. Useful info just because I know you have the same Winch on Big Red now.

[@NoviceGarage]

Thanks!

[@toddk1377]

We live and learn. That said, proper wiring does help with over heating. Always have at least two snatch blocks. I like to work the winch 10-15 seconds then let it rest for 15-20 seconds. This will help keep it from over heating. I'm sure y'all have figured this out now, but people still watching older videos so....🤷

[@fly-lucky]

I have the same winch on my c60 and it pulls my 16k lbs truck around just fine. The large diameter black cord isn't the ground that is your negative contact for the battery. Your winch isn't running at full power. And for every row of line you pull out you loose over half your pulling power. Need a snatch

[@LegitMods4u]

Tips: Sand down the paint from the metal before you ground it. Second check online for some used offroad tires.

[@ruvim54ify]

Winch not the problem here. It's not getting enough juice. Run the cables to the front of your car so it runs off that battery and your alternator will recharge. That's how I ran the setup on my truck. Let me know if it changes anything

[@bobwarren3898]

Use a snatch block and double the cable back to the vehicle. That will also double the pulling power. You should also make sure the engine on the vehicle is running to supply a full 12 volts to the winch, because lower voltage will cause the winch motor to heat abnormally. If you're serious about vehicle recovery, the Warn 8274 is the only winch to have.

[@MikesGarage96]

It sounds like it’s not getting full power, I think you’re right about the ground not being sufficient. We’ve pulled our trucks out with trailers loaded with firewood with this winch.

[@LordAndyvaile]

even thou its a 12000 lb winch it will only pull that on the 1st layer of cable so if the cable is 4 layers then it will only pull around 6700 lb when winding the 4th layer so its best to let all the cable out or use a snatch block which will put its pulling power back up to 12000

[@jdimis4159]

yes a ground wire smashed between two PAINTED pieces of metal will restrict current and cause the winch to overheat and make the clicking noises you're hearing.

[@brbadventurer]

Would be nice to see how you had it wired. It looked pretty janky to me. You need large battery cables to run the winch motor and a short run, longer run = bigger cables needed.

[@2009mechanic]

First :Got to have good powers connections , both of them. That's the quickest way to smoke ANY winch is run the voltage low. Second :GOT TO HAVE A SECOND BATTERY AND A HIGHER OUTPUT ALTERNATOR like those used for factory plow packages when the vehicle gets ordered originally. The extra amps are your best friend.

[@user-qg2kh5nk2n]

Like many people have said put a second battery in the back check your ground And use another cable like a 1awg gauge for that distance. The reason that the winch is doing what it's doing is it's not getting enough Amperage. Voltage drop and resistance test will show drop for the power that I things draws.

[@hewgull]

k p Its getting too much amperage because of low voltage. When the input voltage goes down the amperage increases. Its Ohms law.

[@willdog3]

If that tree goes, its gonna send a log right through that street queen and hit your buddy in the dome, I would also suggest using an arrest device on the winch cable so that it doesnt snap up and cut someones arm off. Ask me how I know. Also, run much larger cables for the power to the winch so it has less resistance. Usually these winches work pretty good if you install and use them right.

[@turnerfrench6257]

You could also get a front mount hitch so that you can move the winch and pull from the front and back that way you pull from wherever you have more traction/less obstacles

[@racecardon829]

You have to re- wire that. The ground is definitely bad, you should have another battery in the rear hatch and run heavy cables from the battery under your hood to one in the rear while the vehicle is running it will charge both batteries. Also for something like that look into a snatch block and learn how to use it properly and you can get a vehicle out of just about anything. This is coming from an experienced tow truck operator. Another thing get yourself a heavy blanket of some sort to put on on the cable that way if the cable by some chance did snap it would cause as much harm.

[@nm4freedom]

YOU ONLY HAVE 12-14-VOLTS AT THE BATTERY DEPENDING ON IF THE ENGINE IS RUNNING OR NOT. THE WINCH MOTOR MAY BE DRAWING AROUND 100 AMPS WHEN FULLY LOADED, DO THE MATH, # 10 WIRE IS ONLY GOOD FOR AROUND 35-AMPS, #2 IS GOOD FOR UP TO 125-AMPS. THE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE BATTERY THE GREATER THE VOLTAGE DROP.

[@dgearwar]

i have a bad lands 9000 pound wench from harbor freight on a 21 ft flat bed and i pull all kinds of vehicles on the flat bed and don't have any troubles like you guys are having.

[@electrohacker]

use a pulley and double your cable. you are pulling at the worst case when stuck in mud and doubling in a pulley will double the force and prevent overheat

[@jeep2003]

definately wasnt getting enough juice. You might need a second battery in the back close to the winch if the ground doesnt fix it

[@Shawn-rq4py]

I think any winch would have issues with half the truck sitting on the frame / axles but it did a decent job. Probably would have worked a bit better w a snatch block on it

[@timothygrasmick2532]

Same winch, I pulled a car out of a ditch almost vertical at times and never got hot. I used heavy duty jumper cables from the batt. to the winch and it worked great, and yes use a blanket or something to place on the cable in case it dose break.

[@freeslave8824]

Thanks for the video guys. Your ground connection is critical. If it's not 100% solid, you will burn up any winch very quickly.

[@NoviceGarage]

Yup, solid comment.

[@alejandrozuniga4426]

on the box it tells you have 45 seconds of winching and about 10-15 minutes of cooling so your winch lasts you longer, keep what you are doing and you will mess it up fast

[@hoffmanbmxbikerider]

Snatch block will double the pulling power and winch will work half as much. Plus the more cable u can pull off the drum the better off u are as it steepens the gear ratio on winch

[@raymondhorton9655]

You hook the cable straight to the battery no fuse in line the winch as a fuse in it what you could do get a set of 8 gauge jumper cables cut the ends off and put some quick connects on that take care of your problem and they are called winch blocks get you two 4000lbs blocks thats all you need .i have one of those 12000lb winchs and i can pull a 21000lb truck with it it all depends on if you know how to hook it up or not

[@megastick9324]

Use a snatch block. Run the cable to the anchor through the block and back to the truck. It cuts the effort roughly in half. Always run as straight as possible, that first run you tried was just short of useless, unless you NEED to pull the truck sideways or keep it from sliding.

[@hondaman991]

Check your ground. That minor clicking noise is your ground cables usually I had the exact same winch got stolen in San Diego recently. awesome winch just got another one but its rated at 9k

[@tomr3237]

You NEED a snatch block, go AROUND the tree and hook back to the car or use the snatch black to put a pulley at the tree...by doubling back to the car you cut the weight of the truck in half...I've used 12000lb winch to pull 36000 it can be done...but you need snatch blocks to cut that weight

[@trevormangus7832]

Also look at how many wraps you have on spool that determines power. You only get the full power on wrap 1 , each additional wrap it reduces

[@nicklucas366]

Iv used my HB winch for 45 min straight pulling heavy stuff. Winch is beast. Never let me down. Having power wires so long of course it's not gonna have all the power it can produce.

[@SubieRow]

my 94 gmc 3500 4door dually was stuck in 3 feet of slush mud mix. that winch pulled my truck out and up the tree where I attached. no problem.

[@riftvalley1765]

If you guys are digging deep in to the mud with your wheels, how do you expect the which to freely pull the vehicle? Leave the engine running and leave on neutral and try to pull with the winch.

[@mikebranscum8525]

i got that winch on my trailer i never have any heating problems with it. i got a battery on the trailer to run the winch no charging from my alternator. i just charge it up after a couple uses. ground it better sand paint off the metal.

[@craigseaman1529]

snatched blocks are your friend,the more you use the more you reduce the load. Also remember your vehicle stuck in mud causes,added resistance , ie suction. Look at it this way if you winch your vehicle on the flat,with tires on it rolls freely,not much strain. Now remove the wheels and winch,,,,,, not so easy huh that's resistance . On one note you did correctly buy raising the winch line up, also buy assisting with the vehicle helped break suction. Wire ropes can snap,and kill, put a weighted object over the rope next time.

[@markrich3271]

You need proper gauge cabling per foot with proper connections and another battery. That would make a night and day difference. Thats why people run them up front.Voltage / amps drop tremulously per a foot.

[@jasonhawkins140]

I think your ground had part to do but the main part of your over heating issue was you can't keep hitting the on switch instead of holding it for the allowed time.

[@williamhardin5254]

You have to run the negative and positive wires from the winch directly to the battery (2nd battery recommended). The battery is your fuse and if you don't want the wires to get hot then shorten them up or get larger wire. Consider installing a 2nd battery in the rear of the vehicle if you use your winch on the rear, that will allow a shorter wire run and you can still rig it to charge from the alternator. Be safe and use the snatch block and throw something over the wire winch cable in case the cable or something else breaks as mentioned by others. I once saw a guy killed by a broken winch hook, went right through the back window of the truck and took one side of his head off, bad work day.

[@williamhardin5254]

BTW, you were smart to pay attention to duty cycle of the winch and stopping to let things cool down. Most of the idiots out there would be in too much of a hurry (like those who can't write a sentence on a keyboard) and burn up the winch, battery cables, and battery before stopping (I've seen that too).

[@skeetermiddaugh8740]

You need a snatch block it doubles the torque of your winch if you have a 12000 pound winch it will have 24 thousand pound pulling capacity but it will slow the winch down

[@Feldschmiede-dieWerkstatt]

The Cable are to small and to long way from generator. The winch is working but it is not the maximum from the winch. It is the maximum performance on this situation.

[@kensendlosky7438]

All the critics commenting...give them a break. They're young..they will learn. We're not born with knowledge. We learn as we go through life. Thanks for the video enjoyed it very much. I'm thinking about buying the same winch. This will be my first winch.

[@GusgusA1]

This winch is barely getting enough power to run more than the solenoids. Good connections are key for an electric motor.

[@Bigmike3406E]

You need a snatch block to double your cable and take the heavy load off of the winch.

[@jdhreiss]

You are correct on the relays clicking in and out due to low voltage.

[@karostaro4779]

dude please tape up that hot wire where you spliced it before your truck burns down

[@jamesmcneal7228]

Karo Staro done told them as soon as i seen it

[@karostaro4779]

james mcneal me too in yesterday's video when they had it hanging out the tailgate window. wouldn't mind seeing a burn video but i don't wanna see anyone getting hurt

[@jamesmcneal7228]

Yea im the mechanic at goodys in the videos so i see the car alot

[@andrewarmstrong9194]

That's an awful lot of tension on that cable, if something snaps it could be as disaster, don't stand in the line of fire when winching something, remember that and it could save your life

[@consaka1]

I have two of these and have seriously abused one. You have wiring issues and that is causing your heat issue. I have never had one get more than just slightly warm to the touch running it pretty close to straight through with 100 feet of rope. Oh and most of that I was pulling so hard I bent the winch mount that goes in the receiver. It was a harbor freight one as well. Those are only rated to 9000 lbs.

[@109number9]

I thought the clicking might be from a mechanism inside the which locking into place to it didn't release tension when the motor wasn't running.

[@jamesmcneal7228]

SuperiorRedneck its clicking because the switch cant get a good ground also why the winch was over heating

[@blinko656]

You need a very strong battery or 2 to get the maximum pull.

[@Gmtail]

If you hook the winch ground to a clean spot on the Frame DON'T forget to add equal gauge wire from the battery to frame, and near the alternator on the engine block to the frame. With that long of a run I'd invest in at least 2 Gauge welding cable.

[@jamessteffen09]

I have the same winch on my jeep zj and I've never had that kinda issue. I've pulled another jeep up a 45° angle with no problem and drug my jeep with tires locked with that winch. you need to re-ground that winch.

[@lordofthestings]

Tire pressure is everything. You have to get the pressure way down. I have a 4Runner and it doesn't four wheel very well in sand or mud without lowering tire pressure. It makes a world of difference. It doesn't appear like they lowered tire pressure in this video. And the tires look like they're bald. Having said all that, good thing to remember about Harbor Freight is their motto: Almost Good Enough

[@fastst1]

might be wiring but even at 1/3 capacity with a full spool, it should snap that truck right out of that hole. either its terrible or something is wrong. My old 10k warn would drag trees out of the woods and onto trailers all day long.

[@barryblankenship7234]

also the distance from the power source to the winch has alot to do with it too

[@thom1218]

Clicking from the control box? Isn't that the sound of the mechanical ratchet to keep it from unwinding?

[@avian60]

clicking from control box sounds like solanoid makeing and breaking contact

[@06goatm6]

I wouldn't think hitting the switch on and off every 3 seconds is good for it either, may not be helping the heat issue.... and as someone else said don't step over the cable when its tight, put a jacket or something on it to protect in case the cable snaps, and re ground to a better location. Maybe a 2nd battery in the rear that has a charging cable from the alternator.

[@baconbitsitis9927]

sounded to me like the relay box ground was not installed properly. I hear the chatter from the relay, and that will definitely heat up any electric motor.

[@jamescragle8825]

That winch doesn't have a good connection. I have the same winch hardwired with out the circuit breaker on it and it runs circles around brand name winches. I've pulled a Tahoe and a Jeep Cherokee out of creeks at 45 degrees with it and no hesitation. I give this winch a beating and it keeps on working its ass off. I've also submerged it in a creek and still works flawlessly.

[@johnathontaylor6960]

I really recommend getting the Badlands wireless remote control and a snatch block will help alot

[@jackiyouaresohot9981]

I have the same one mine works hella good. there's something wrong

[@jamesmcneal7228]

Jack I you are so hot yup ground issue

[@shyecjj]

I have used them and they work great. These kids are just clowns and have no idea about anything.

[@jamesmcneal7228]

Thanos everyone has to learn some how ... at least there actually out there getting dirty figuring it out for themselves

[@shyecjj]

True,KZbin is always entertaining watching morons.

[@saha6818]

FWIW, my 9k HF winch has worked great.

[@strelokblackburn4651]

I have a super winch talon 12.5 I for my ram. Just now getting a bumper built fer it so haven't used it. Buy probably get one of these for the car trailer with it's on batt, And a 2 guage qd wire kit

[@MNDashcam]

I could have pulled that out with a 2000 lb winch. You have to know how to operate your equipment and also install and set it up correctly

[@mountie816]

Clearly the winch is not getting enough power. This winch is geared well. so if its going slow it's clearly low on power.

[@dirtysouthtv2209]

Step 1-Never take a fake four wheel drive vehicle in the mud (fake=only two wheels spin at a time). Step 2-Never take a street tired vehicle in the mud--no matter the reason. Step 3-Never, EVER let that kid drive a stuck in the mud vehicle again. He is ten thousand percent clueless. Step 4-In the future, get lockers on your four wheel drive vehicles. No excuses, just get lockers. Step 5-put the vehicle in gear, let off the brake and help the winch do its job without someone digging it down deeper every time the winch starts getting it unstuck. Tires are saw blades when spinning in the mud. Should we even address you handicapping the poor lil winch by not wiring it properly? That's why it was over-heating so badly. If you ever connect it properly, you'll be amazed at how much stronger it will be, how much longer it will run and how much faster it will spool.

[@robby844]

Lockers are over rated.

[@evansautomotive307]

@@robby844 I disagree

[@drummerdude0314]

Lockers are a crutch

[@968hbo]

Just always remember the more cable you let out the more torque you have. the more wraps of cable you have the bigger the it makes the drum serface.

[@iamtherealcapend]

Why not try taking a shovel and remove the access dirt around the tires then find a 2x4 and lay it across the back of the tires so the tires can gain traction..... its not the winches fault...

[@garrettchapman8170]

Boys hang a wet towel over that cable, I don't want to see you get cut in half...

[@NoviceGarage]

Will do

[@garrettchapman8170]

Novice Garage thanks guys, just want you to be safe.. so what do you think of the winch? would you buy it again?

[@Dave_Menz_p4p_number_1]

whats that do

[@douglasdailey5998]

Don't know if truck was in 4 wheel drive, but if it wasn't that might help a little bit. Your wench is to small for that truck, you need a 3 thousand pound wench for a 2,300 pound truck.

[@zachbacken1842]

Be careful! The mounting plates are only rated for like 9000 Lbs. I had one and we twisted the winch housing because the plate bent

[@adventuresofmattyb1386]

You're ground cable should be mounted directly to the battery also

[@Defundemorats]

I'm sure someone said this before me but all you have to do was have a snatch block it would have doubled your power instantly ,read a 3-page manual on how to whinch vehicles .

[@nathanmeier2908]

Your battery is dead or not hooked up correctly. I have same winch mine works great.

[@jasonfarrell9105]

If you used a snatched block or even two the winch would have been terribly slow but been under a fraction of the load. Good job waiting for to cool though. Biggest mistake was wheeling alone!

[@overlandoffroadadventures8980]

That thing would work a whole lot better brand directly to the battery... 😖 this is painful to watch! Basically have a hooked up to a cigarette lighter.....

[@stevebaker994]

none educated people

[@trevormangus7832]

I have the same winch there must be something wrong with yours because I pulled a Z71 out buried to the doors and it didn't even stress the winch

[@nightowl5987]

i had a 10.000 pound harbor freight winch on a 94 chevy Silverado 4x4 an it got me out of just bout everything i got my self into yes they are slow but it gets the job done