Harbor Freight Apache 1800 vs Pelican 1150 Case Extreme Durability Test, Water Test, Updated Review

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Eclectic Steve

Eclectic Steve

Күн бұрын

Side by side extreme durability test between the Harbor Freight Apache 1800 case and the Pelican 1150 case. How tough are the Apache cases in comparison to the Pelican cases?
I conduct the following tests with both cases to see how they hold compare:
TEST 1: 30 minute water submersion test
TEST 2: Drop test on concrete with an egg inside - I wanted to see if the egg & the case would survive the impact from 5 & 10 feet up. I figured this test would also see how much impact the foam inside each case could absorb cushioning the eggs.
TEST 3: Crush Test - I drive over each case with my 2008 3/4 ton Chevy Silverado diesel truck. I should note that when I performed the test I had 600lbs of sand bags over the rear axle that I keep there for traction. I did this test to see how much weight and torque the cases could take before being crushed.
TEST 4: Bonus (at the end of the video) - I drive over the Apache case at 20MPH just to see what would happen.
Also included is an update review of the Apache 1800 noting some additional information that I did not include in my original review. Original review found here: • Harbor Freight Apache ...
Below are direct chapter links to each section of this video:
Water submersion test (cases are about 8 inches under water) - • Harbor Freight Apache ...
5 & 10 foot drop test with egg inside - • Harbor Freight Apache ...
Crush test (running the cases over with my 2008 Chevy Silverado 2500 truck) - • Harbor Freight Apache ...
Updated review & recommendation - • Harbor Freight Apache ...
20MPH drive over test on the Apache 1800 with egg inside - • Harbor Freight Apache ...
Hero In Peril by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (creativecommons.org/licenses/...)
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@fsmith98006
@fsmith98006 6 жыл бұрын
I delayed watching another binge watch episode of "The Americans" to watch this review. Totally worth it! The entertainment value was high. If I were Special Forces then the Pelican, without a doubt. For me, Joe Schmo homeowner and small time contractor? Apache without a doubt! Really an eye opener!!
@omgitsmario7
@omgitsmario7 5 жыл бұрын
Fred Smith agree, perfect statement
@Burritosarebetterthantacos
@Burritosarebetterthantacos 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Im Special Forces all day everyday.
@notsoflexibleflyer
@notsoflexibleflyer 6 жыл бұрын
I bought an Apache and watched this to help confirm my purchase decision. But I really want to see the Pelican hit the two wheels at full speed! Nice music. It helped the humor factor.
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 6 жыл бұрын
notsoflexibleflyer Once I get to 100 likes on this video, I will do the 25MPH drive over test on the Pelican 1150 case. I also am very curious tho see the outcome. I am glad you enjoyed the video.
@michaeledlin9995
@michaeledlin9995 4 жыл бұрын
Pelican won't hold up either.
@silverstryke8913
@silverstryke8913 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews on regarding the two products! Thanks!
@TheMotorcycleBoss
@TheMotorcycleBoss 6 жыл бұрын
Great review. You need more subscribers. I love the fact that you described the pros and cons and recommendations at the end. That made my purchasing decision nice and simple. Thanks bro
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 6 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. I appreciate your comment.
@csw552
@csw552 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, excellent job comparing the two! I just picked up an Apache 3800 today and have been pretty impressed so far on the quality. After watching this, I'm even more impressed. I've got a Colt 1911 + 2 magazines, a S&W .380 + 1 magazine, and 3 boxes of 50ct ammo in it. And there's still room for more. And it's good to know that as long as I don't run it over with a 3/4 truck, I should be fine!
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 6 жыл бұрын
CSW55 I am glad you found the review helpful, thanks for your comment.
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure I'd even try it with a 1/2 ton truck. LOL
@ianw5564
@ianw5564 2 жыл бұрын
4 years later still a great video!
@terry3906
@terry3906 2 жыл бұрын
This video sold me on using an Apache case for the battery packs of my electric mountainboard. Thanks for the upload!
@puttputt524
@puttputt524 4 жыл бұрын
My dad hangs out in his garage all day drinking beer and organizing tackle boxes and tools. I think you guys and your fascination with boxes would get along.
@pmedic523
@pmedic523 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I saw these at harbor freight the other day and was curious how it stood up to pelican. I feel like the Apache is good enough for my needs at this point. Thanks for the nicely done review.
@moranpro
@moranpro 5 жыл бұрын
Great field test & review and your conclusion is spot on. The Apache cases provide a great value and offer good protection in all but the most extreme circumstances. I had just bought 3 in different sizes a week before viewing this and flew from Seattle to OKC (with a plane change in Denver) and the two I was not allowed to carry on fared just fine, while the two road cases for rack mounted gear were both damaged to the point I will need to replace them. Fortunately, like the egg in the slow drive-over test, the gear inside all functioned perfectly.
@davidwho8215
@davidwho8215 6 жыл бұрын
You should put those eggs in zip lock bags...just in case.
@MinimalistMotoLife
@MinimalistMotoLife 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing quite like some raw chicken embryo soaked into foam
@777phatman
@777phatman 4 жыл бұрын
Too late 😂
@josephcalvosa8272
@josephcalvosa8272 4 жыл бұрын
Lol ...I see what you did there.
@MelvinBallard-xl5ur
@MelvinBallard-xl5ur 11 ай бұрын
This case is rock solid (like other Pelican cases). kzbin.infoUgkx3jMFPw9QX_Iu4DNcjW-t9AZ4_iNhJzhE I paired it with the Master Lock 140T set of padlocks. The US Airways ticket agent that checked the case was impressed by how completely the latches were secured. The case has layers of removable foam cubes that can be easily adapted to the contents of the case and keep everything secure. After declaring its contents to the ticket agent, I was allowed to put this case in other checked luggage. Due to its size and black color, this helped insure that it wasn't misplaced by a baggage handler. TSA was (apparently) happy with the packaging as well. If you plan on flying with more than one of the main items, I would recommend buying a larger Pelican case and just transport the case as another piece of checked luggage.
@carpetcowboy58
@carpetcowboy58 5 жыл бұрын
At first I wondered why you used that big blower instead of a hair drier but then it hit me. :-) Thanks for answering a lot of questions I had about the Apaches.
@owl5927
@owl5927 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the truck test. Funny and eye opening.
@SVTsupercharged
@SVTsupercharged 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’ll be running over my case with a truck so the Apache will do just fine especially at the price point of 20 bucks!
@superperior
@superperior 4 жыл бұрын
Just got mine on sale for 16 bucks! Nice little case
@mikerecoil6283
@mikerecoil6283 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao right. For the price ill take my chances.
@devilrobrob
@devilrobrob 3 жыл бұрын
Apache is garbage go cheap on keeping your valuables safe.. spend the extra couple bucks and go with Pelican to keep your loved ones safe
@devilrobrob
@devilrobrob 3 жыл бұрын
@@brentmiller8494 they pay me weekly...
@aaronm4706
@aaronm4706 3 жыл бұрын
@@devilrobrob That's probably why their cases are so expensive.
@jcsheng505
@jcsheng505 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was surprised the egg survived even though the case broke apart during the first slow drive over. The 20 mph drive over was awesome!
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I also was shocked that the egg survived. I expected it to at least have cracked if not shattered based on how the case looked.
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 3 жыл бұрын
That definitely speaks to the quality of the foam inserts.
@michaelo6003
@michaelo6003 3 жыл бұрын
Now that's a review!! Nicely done, and convincing.
@zachstuff
@zachstuff 5 жыл бұрын
Very detailed review! Thank you!
@r.w.7232
@r.w.7232 4 жыл бұрын
Great side by side comparison review! I figured the Pelican might be a tad bit stronger. But the Apache is hands down the best one for the money. No doubt about it.
@BodyguardSports
@BodyguardSports Жыл бұрын
Great review!!! It helped me a lot!
@awesometylerable
@awesometylerable 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Really wish you did a close-up, detailed review of where and how the apache shattered. Clearly had something to do with the hinge design, but the details of the break seem important for shatter resistance from a higher force/altitude drop. Also, the latches will always be the point of failure from the perspective of constant use. I'm curious what you're opinions are on how long they'll last on the Apache.
@stevethorntonfishing1360
@stevethorntonfishing1360 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you!! The Apache should be great for most people and their needs, including myself... I have an Apache 3800 for my GoPros and equipment, I use it while in a boat and fishing, and it works great! Love the Apache case!!!
@texasdeeslinglead2401
@texasdeeslinglead2401 6 жыл бұрын
Has your grinder been previously used on mild steel , carbon seel. If so , then you may be noticing imparted contamination from imbedded particulates in grinder disk. I've seen this happen during welding , very sad moment for a welder . the level of magnatizm I was seeming in this video leads me to believe these are not stainless. Mild magnatizm is exhibited by work hardened stainless. But what I saw here , is a bit beyond mild. Just food for thought.
@1965justwannalook
@1965justwannalook 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and perfect tests. The crush test and the water test was just what I was wondering about. The drop test is really only valid for testing the durability of the case itself. Whether the egg breaks or not is dependent upon the firmness of the foam. (The foam in each box is too firm for the egg at 10 feet.) I learned that in my high school physics class. We dropped eggs from the top of the football stadium (~40 feet). A flimsy cardboard box with soft foam was all that was needed to keep the egg from breaking. Moral of that long-winded story... If the contents are fragile, change the foam to something much softer.
@TheRealCCSmith
@TheRealCCSmith 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this video alot.... wish you would make some more. Try comparing expensive coolers to budget coolers.... ratchets, guns, grills, other man stuff.... tools, and toys.
@alancarter8396
@alancarter8396 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a TOMcase for my Mavic Pro. The attention to detail from the Germans is great and the after sales service beyond excellent. I managed to damage the liner, I emailed tgem and I received a free of charge replacement within about 4 days. Germany to UK. THE BEST.
@jameskelly1680
@jameskelly1680 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the scientific water immersion test.
@jakewyatt7013
@jakewyatt7013 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review
@jimmysgarage9068
@jimmysgarage9068 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man!
@timeonly1401
@timeonly1401 2 жыл бұрын
I love, love, love people who are amateur scientists -- who DO THE EXPERIMENTS for themselves and others, rather take anyone else's word at face value. Or worse, take the word of manufacturers and salespeople who have a vested interest in you buying their wares. Thx Eclectic Steve!
@DiffFamilyReviews
@DiffFamilyReviews 5 жыл бұрын
Great review. I’ve got a couple Pelicans for camera gear but the Apaches seem pretty solid for what they cost.
@DIYJeff
@DIYJeff 6 жыл бұрын
After watching this video I'm headed down to Harbor Freight to pick up the Apache 1800. Can't go wrong for $10! Thanks for the detailed and humorous review.
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words. I am glad you enjoyed it.
@SVTsupercharged
@SVTsupercharged 6 жыл бұрын
Honest Jeff Reviews & DIY Jeff Ten dollars? The only sale I saw was for $ 22.99 with a coupon.
@DIYJeff
@DIYJeff 6 жыл бұрын
SVTsupercharged, when they have a tent sale they put out a coupon on the small 1800 for $9.99, the medium 2800 for $19.99, and the large 3800 for $29.99. The normal coupons don't go that low, just for the tent sale.
@SVTsupercharged
@SVTsupercharged 6 жыл бұрын
Honest Jeff Reviews & DIY Jeff Ah, I see. Thanks for the info, I’ll have to keep an eye out for the next tent sale 👍🏼
@gilbertogranados7941
@gilbertogranados7941 5 жыл бұрын
@@DIYJeff I was just wondering about that, where tha heck did this guys find them at 10 bucks???!!! lol now it makes sense, I went ahead and bought the pelican case instead though
@rjdaley86
@rjdaley86 4 жыл бұрын
awesome comparison video
@ilanbenyes2133
@ilanbenyes2133 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Thank you
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 3 жыл бұрын
Did you mean "Egg-cellent"? ... LOL
@timothygasper406
@timothygasper406 3 жыл бұрын
I just purchased an Apache 4800 and am waiting for it to arrive. I already have Pelican cases for my professional cameras and will definitely continue to use them. After seeing your comparison....I am inclined to using the Apache for my not-so-professional cameras as I will not be taking them to places I go for professional shoots overseas, etc. One thing about the pins on the Apache. One could always just replace those pins with true stainless steel pins if you want to. I know it's spending money, but it's not too much. A few bucks I'd imagine. I am glad I watched your comparison. Now I know which equipment will go in which cases. Thank you.
@Second_Opinion_2
@Second_Opinion_2 3 жыл бұрын
Putting weight on top of the lids reinforces the seal making the results of the submersion test dubious at best
@conradnerdahl127
@conradnerdahl127 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. For small lower end electronics the Apache seems ideal as a transportation enclosure; but, based on your tests I’d lean toward the Pelican when shipping higher end electronics or camera equipment will definitely go with Pelican. Essentially a mix of both depending on relative needs seems appropriate. Thanks for the demo - no need to demolish the Pelican.
@nickdrom
@nickdrom 4 жыл бұрын
Steve, come back! The internet has spoken-run over your Pelican.
@MaicoMoon
@MaicoMoon 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome review. Definitely shows how you get what you pay for and why Pelican is worth the premium. If you don't have the money to spend on a Pelican, then Apache is still good enough for most uses.
@dannyunique1
@dannyunique1 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video.
@grutenverst8283
@grutenverst8283 2 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT presentation and EXCELLENT Methodology !! Comprehensive testing of most usual circumstances found during "normal" use of the case. Of course, greater tripod use can free up BOTH your hands, and your later description of the underwater test would've been better SEEN than described (after all, anybody watching your vid up to that point IS interested in YOUR type of review due to the first two things mentioned in this comment!) I would've added only one more test: drop a 50 # weight from 10 ft on each case (as though a tornado blew a wall down on it in a disaster), Otherwise COMMENDATIONS for talking DIRECTLY to your audience and giving easy home techniques to investigate. God Bless
@GaryTravels
@GaryTravels 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the way the valve works on the Apache.
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, glad I could help.
@petersuarez651
@petersuarez651 3 жыл бұрын
Great video review! I have an Apache case for the price point, it full fills my needs.
@jeffmurrell5707
@jeffmurrell5707 6 жыл бұрын
I have 4 Pelican cases. I use them for marine electronics,scuba gear and as a tool box. I don't drive my truck over them,but I am confident in their impact and crush resistance. I also have a Pelican 95 qt cooler on my boat, it is amazing but heavy. If you need the warranty,Pelican guarantee's their products for life.
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 6 жыл бұрын
I too have many Pelican cases. I have been disappointed in the warranty though recently. One of my Pelican 1050 cases broke a couple months ago and they wanted me to pay to ship it to them and include a check in it to pay for the return shipping. With paying for shipping both ways the cost was almost the same as buying a new one on Amazon. I just bought a new case to save on the hassle of the RMA process. Back in the day you just took a picture of the broken case and sent it to them and they would ship you a new one. Gone are the days.
@lucd9080
@lucd9080 5 жыл бұрын
go to a dealer............
@taeso2160
@taeso2160 5 жыл бұрын
@@EclecticSteve I'm sure this is due to scummy people taking advantage/abusing the Warranty. Use to be the same on Amazon, but now they want pictures, a big toe, proof that you didn't tamper with the package prior, and still need to send a broken item to them. Luckily Amazon covers shipping and handling 90% of the time.
@samuelbane6743
@samuelbane6743 3 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT review!!!!!!!
@ajrogers007
@ajrogers007 2 жыл бұрын
Nice magic trick on the ladder drop 🤣
@stevenanderson3673
@stevenanderson3673 5 жыл бұрын
For most of us the Apache case is just fine. In almost all applications the cases will not be subjected the types of tests you did. I use one for my $450 RC transmitter. It is more a protection form the elements than anything else.
@chuckgrumble5440
@chuckgrumble5440 2 жыл бұрын
the chinesium plastic cannot beat american plastic tho
@TheWizardOfTheFens
@TheWizardOfTheFens 2 жыл бұрын
@@chuckgrumble5440 you do know that there is no such thing as American made plastic anymore don’t you 😂
@chuckgrumble5440
@chuckgrumble5440 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWizardOfTheFens merican plastic strong
@pequodexpress
@pequodexpress 2 ай бұрын
I'm in the market for a Chinese rolling case. Great tests. Thank you. For what it's worth, Apache, Eylar, and Meijia all seem to be rebrands of the same Chinese cases.
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Now, depending on what I'm protecting, I can decide if the extra money for the pelican case is worth it. One question, do either or both of them offer a decent/respectable place to put a padlock or have a built in lock?
@stevenbryant4718
@stevenbryant4718 5 жыл бұрын
The air bubbles arising from the HF case were residual air clinging to the outside of the case. If air was leaking from inside of the case then water would likely seep into the case. I just purchased two B+W International cases of a similar size for $10 a piece at Fry's Electronics, on sale. They are in between the Pelican and Apache in size. Good for cameras.
@K3S01L2
@K3S01L2 5 жыл бұрын
That crush test show the the reason behind the price of each one of them. I know its very uncommon that your case will be drive over by truck but same kind of forces will apply to the case if you carry something heavy in it and drop the case. I use many different Pelicases at work and for example our Peli 1400 case setup weights approximately 25 kg and can be dropped from waist height at anytime without fear of broken stuff inside or broken case. We did try some cheap ones years ago but it was not worth of the money since they break too easily. But if you are going to handle your case with care then they may do the work for you. Also one thing to take into count is the resell value. We do sell our very hardly used Pelicases time to time to civilians markets because they will go about the half of price of the new one and even when they have been broken from outside (like missing handle or something) they can be sold for pretty good price still. Those cheap cases will sell next to nothing when they have been heavily beaten and if broken then they are worthless.
@schlotdoglaser
@schlotdoglaser 5 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I will not be transporting eggs....whew!. Thanks for an honest review. I think for most people, the Apache will work fine. If we are transporting eggs we are screwed, but if we drop our case from 5 to 10 feet, we will be ok.....and save $35
@taeso2160
@taeso2160 5 жыл бұрын
Great review! Semper Fi
@themotofixery
@themotofixery 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@baltsosser
@baltsosser 6 жыл бұрын
A good real world test. I'm using the 3800 for a motorcycle trunk. Really pleased with it.
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 3 жыл бұрын
But, how is it mounted? Any holes drilled will/could ruin its waterproof function (depending on your attachment method) and could alter it structural stability.
@johnconnor7501
@johnconnor7501 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. thanks
@sinisternm
@sinisternm 6 жыл бұрын
damn man you deserve a 1000 likes, great video.
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 6 жыл бұрын
sinisternm glad you enjoyed it.
@whatnotzone6866
@whatnotzone6866 7 ай бұрын
The Pelican case surviving being driven over without damage is certainly impressive! No doubt it's the better quality product. However, in most everyday situations, I have no doubt that the Apache case is quite sufficient. Your drop test is a much more realistic scenario, and the Apache did great! IMO
@toml802
@toml802 3 жыл бұрын
Likely the inertia of the "fluid" inside the egg shell caused the cracking of the egg.
@DB-qm4jx
@DB-qm4jx 3 жыл бұрын
You should put weight on the inside before Dunkin them. When you put the weight on top I would be skeptical as the lid would be pressed into the main body, therefore creating a tighter seal especially not being submerged very far. As the deeper you go the more the water pressure squeezes between the lid and main unit. Of course these will be good enough for anyone on the first world most likely. Great review and thank you very much for it. For me I will be purchasing the apache because of this review. Cheers
@15blackfox
@15blackfox 4 жыл бұрын
Shoot, I need to find more durable cases to carry my eggs in.
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 3 жыл бұрын
I just have my wife carry our eggs.......
@thistledownwoodcraft3426
@thistledownwoodcraft3426 3 жыл бұрын
Tire guy: So how did you get this giant slash? You: I ran over an egg. :)
@PatLealFilms
@PatLealFilms 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@GlobalAdventurer
@GlobalAdventurer 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video👍 I'm buying another pelican case for travel and I need all the protection I can get.
@janthomassen4175
@janthomassen4175 4 жыл бұрын
I am on the road around 300 days a year and I travel via "planes, trains and automobile" tens of thousands of miles a year. If I'm handling the cases, (driving), my Apache cases work fine but if someone else is supposed to handle them, (air travel or I'm shipping them), it's always in a Pelican.
@Unplugged704
@Unplugged704 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration. Answers my questions. Lol
@stephenwise9131
@stephenwise9131 3 жыл бұрын
I was particularly interested in the immersion test. One possible flaw: weighting down the cases forced the seals tighter. Would they be as good if the weight were inside?
@nathankeel4308
@nathankeel4308 3 жыл бұрын
All pelicans are Ingress rated IP67. They also pass a few military specifications. They are extremely waterproof. People have lost Pelicans at sea and they were found washed up on shores with dry cameras, etc
@LKMedia_Official
@LKMedia_Official 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@lanceaineyfishing
@lanceaineyfishing 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video, but I also bought an Apache case for my range needs. Oh and hello fellow Oregonian!
@spiralouttoolband
@spiralouttoolband 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought an Apache 5800. Does a fine job for what i need it for. No intention on submersing it in water or running it over with my car
@iawfilmworksburbank
@iawfilmworksburbank 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent demo. I need drop and water protection and pelican all though superior, also to expensive for my budget these days as I need 50 in different sizes...hopefully will never get run over. With that said off to Harborfreight I go.
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 3 жыл бұрын
If you need that many, better to order online.
@therejecteddevil1163
@therejecteddevil1163 3 жыл бұрын
No one talks about the QUALITY of the foam. Pelican has better foam especially when protecting glass. I have an Apache 5800/ and the foam is so knock off will be buying Pelican 1510 foam for it. Cool review.
@Travis-Gimp
@Travis-Gimp 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review I think for a lot of my music gear Apache is great but I also scuba dive so I’m wondering if you would spend the extra money for the pelican case? Because scuba gear can be expensive too so I might have to go pelican for scuba but Apache for everything else is that what you would do?
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 3 жыл бұрын
But scuba gear is made to get wet, so are you looking for the crush-resistant feature? Then yes, the pelican cases.
@oldstudbuck3583
@oldstudbuck3583 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review thank you for taking the time and effort. I will continue to over pay for the Pelican because it’s made in America. If you can afford to over pay buy American made.
@TYLERVUESJJ
@TYLERVUESJJ 5 жыл бұрын
Heading to go get the 3800 Apache case...
@Ballistic_Turtle
@Ballistic_Turtle 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell just by looking that the Pelican has a huge amount of glass fiber. Meanwhile the Apache looks like it's just standard blow molded junk. Dimensions and slight difference in thickness don't matter if the quality of the construction materials are so vastly different. For average people protecting their average crap, the Apache will be fine. For anything worth a good chunk of change, or in a dangerous environment, pony up and get the objectively superior product. Thanks for the video.
@420RyanBruce
@420RyanBruce 3 жыл бұрын
For most needs the Apache is plenty. I cant really think of an instance when I might run over my case. That being said if I was rich and money was no object I would get the pelican just cause. I mainly use my Apache cases for my humminbird helix and another for my star adventurer (astrophotography) and they work great for the occasional drop in the garage.
@incee_netinai
@incee_netinai 6 жыл бұрын
that crush test sold me on pelican. thank you!
@CH-ce5jv
@CH-ce5jv 4 жыл бұрын
Very smart to do a driving test because I'd hate to have all my music equipment destroyed cause someone didnt shut the trunk if cars are following.
@ronnies07
@ronnies07 6 жыл бұрын
9:16 Err, possibly. Stainless steel is such because the chromium content in the metal essentially "rusts" creating an inert chromium oxide "paint" across the surface. Grinding would remove the passivization layer which would in turn expose the iron content to attack by oxidizing compounds. Additionally its worth noting that one must be careful when working with stainless as material from the tool may become embedded into the work-piece and sabotage the ability for the stainless to passivate. If you used a grinding wheel that had been used previously it's entirely possible that metallic particles from a previous project, or possibly the wheel itself, have become embedded into the piece. I am no metallurgist so your statement that the rust would not appear that quickly on a stainless item may be true- I just wanted to point out that stainless will happily rust, especially if scratched with a steel item.
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 6 жыл бұрын
ronnies07 you make some very valid points. Thanks for the comment.
@seanf1941
@seanf1941 4 жыл бұрын
How is it that the cases switched sides on the 10ft drop test?... 3:50
@hollowpointdefense
@hollowpointdefense 4 жыл бұрын
I have and use the Apache 3800 cases, they do just fine.
@danhatton2229
@danhatton2229 2 жыл бұрын
Would the Apache case be suitable for air travel and be TSA approved?
@Patriot7476
@Patriot7476 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely want to see the Pelican run over! Lets see that Pelican quality. Only thing, anything hit at that speed is gonna explode. Maybe slow it down and test both.
@boywonder2799
@boywonder2799 3 жыл бұрын
I took the 1800 with my gun in it, threw it in pool, not place carefully, but I threw it in. I let it float for 20 minutes. Then I took the pool net and pushed it down to about 8 feet let it set for 10 minutes. Threw it around couple more times. No water in the case at all. They work fine, and will get 90% of the job done for most of us I think. If your some hardcore professional adventure, expedition. You prob have more money then average joe saving a buck, so wont care about spending 3x the amount for Pelican case. I never had issue water, dust for my camera gear, gopros, and guns in the cases. they been in rain, and desert sand. Worked fine. Just me tho, my experience with them. Just bought another Apache 3800 for $27.
@garyzimmerman8679
@garyzimmerman8679 3 жыл бұрын
The weight on the lids of the weights help seal the lids even tighter. Also not very deep so hardly any pressure. Should have borrowed a friends pool, tied the weights to the handle and then put in the deep end to fully test.
@MASTURBIKER
@MASTURBIKER 6 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see the pelican do another submerged in water test at the end....
@bryonwatkins1432
@bryonwatkins1432 4 жыл бұрын
Just purchased a Harbor Freight Apache 3800 for $35.00. It’s think as he’s describing the Pelican here. Also, the latches on the 3800 are easier to open. I’ll stick with Apache. PLUS, i like the name better than Pelican.
@yogabbacrabba1457
@yogabbacrabba1457 2 жыл бұрын
The corner in the frame at exactly 5:00 looks like it sustained more than just minor cosmetic damage
@brendandekoschak7448
@brendandekoschak7448 2 жыл бұрын
you should put the weight in the case so its not pressing the lid down on the seal more, this way you get a better accuracy in the seals eval
@kevinbatchelorphotography3829
@kevinbatchelorphotography3829 4 жыл бұрын
I came here to see if I wanted to get an Apache for my photography gear, and was blown away that the pelican didn't crumple under the weight of the truck.
@CuttinChris
@CuttinChris 4 жыл бұрын
So did you go pelican or Apache for your camera gear? I'm thinking of getting one as well
@brienb1770
@brienb1770 4 жыл бұрын
I’d like to know if you made a choice also
@waynemarch5065
@waynemarch5065 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious, why didn’t you do a similar stainless steel test on the pelican pin.
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 2 жыл бұрын
Pelican tells you that their metal parts are stainless, but the Apache case does not specify.
@diazoantonio
@diazoantonio 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder, how would the test would have gone if both the cases were facing the same direction for the truck test?
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 5 жыл бұрын
Both cases were facing in the exact same direction when I ran them over. The top of the cases were facing up with the handles facing towards truck as it approached. If you look in the video there is a truck strap hooked on the handles with the strap end strung out. I did this so that the cases would not slide as I ran them over as the strap is held in place by the truck tire.
@CraigPatersonII
@CraigPatersonII 5 жыл бұрын
While most stainless steel is non ferritic, which makes it not magnetic. Which possibly confirms your suspicion of the hardware not being stainless. Grinding the surface away doesn't prove anything unfortunately. Unless you use that grinder for specifically non ferrous metals like stainless it will add impurities to the surface that you are working on. You must passivate the stainless for it to resist corrosion after working the surface. The impurities usually include radical iron ions which oxidize to rust very rapidly. Depending on how corrosive the solution it comes in contact with. Like salt water, etc.
@danhugelier5161
@danhugelier5161 5 жыл бұрын
What was the quality difference with the pick and pluck foam. Did the Apache case hold as well as the pelican?
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 5 жыл бұрын
I would rate them about the same. They are made of slightly different foam. The Apache foam is slightly stiffer where as the Pelican case is a bit softer and might mold more to an item. I have no complaints with either of them.
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 3 жыл бұрын
Even after the Apache case crushed by the truck, the foam protected the egg, so we know the foam is good in that one. Not really tested the peli-foam in the same way
@Jooders
@Jooders 5 жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, you can't go wrong with the Apache, I'll get it for now but maybe in the future I'll get pelican if my knife collection grows more.
@davidtobin9007
@davidtobin9007 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't read all the reviews to no if this was mentioned. It looks to me in the truck test the Apache case was facing with locks facing in opposite direction as the pelican. Do you think this would have made a difference?
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 5 жыл бұрын
David Tobin both cases were facing with the handles and lock towards the truck when I ran them over. If you watch closely you will notice that I used a truck strap hooked to the handles to hold the cases in place as I ran them over so that they would not slide out of the way.
@wcresponder
@wcresponder 5 жыл бұрын
90 day warranty for apache .......... almost bombproof(lifetime) for pelican.
@samuelbane6743
@samuelbane6743 3 жыл бұрын
did not know this....THANK YOU!!!
@jeremyhughes9837
@jeremyhughes9837 5 жыл бұрын
Hey..... great video. I just was wondering if you can use the harbor freight case to carry your firearm on a plane - TSA case.
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, the TSA will accept the Apache case for transporting firearms. Just like any other approved case you will need to have a non-TSA lock on the outside of the case.
@jeremyhughes9837
@jeremyhughes9837 5 жыл бұрын
Thank steve....
@jeremyhughes9837
@jeremyhughes9837 5 жыл бұрын
Hey steve....... One more question, when you carrying this case on to a airplane do you open or close the pressure release valve before going onto the plane?
@EclecticSteve
@EclecticSteve 5 жыл бұрын
The pressure release valve should be opened (turned counterclockwise) and then closed (turned clockwise) any time you close the case and need it to be watertight. This equalizes the pressure inside the case with the pressure outside the case. So before you go on the plane you should open the valve, then close it again. If after getting off the plane you have problems getting the case open, then open and close the valve again and this should allow the case to be opened.
@jeremyhughes9837
@jeremyhughes9837 5 жыл бұрын
@@EclecticSteve Thanx again pal........ you been tremendously help. Thank you so much!!
@ShowemRight
@ShowemRight 5 жыл бұрын
Its hard to beat Mil-Spec like Pelicans are rated as.
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