Harbor Freight Dust Collector Upgrade

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FranklinWoodWorks

FranklinWoodWorks

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@moecrosby7587
@moecrosby7587 5 жыл бұрын
"You do what you can with the space that you have." Truer words were never spoken.
@jrtmanmd
@jrtmanmd 4 жыл бұрын
I do have to say, this is one of the slickest ideas I seen yet!
@shanetimberedowl9541
@shanetimberedowl9541 7 жыл бұрын
Love that piano hinge way of mounting your system allowing for removal of the drum. Very clever!
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone gets a lucky idea once in a while. Thank you for watching!
@garymac121
@garymac121 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, the hinge idea is great. I’m nearing the end of my HF dust collection modification and was going back and forth with best way to mount everything. I was following a lot of Snekkers design except my Thien baffle will be on top of the barrel like yours. Your hinge concept makes sense. I think I’ll go this way.
@thevoigts651
@thevoigts651 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I found your idea. I modified it a bit to fit my particular situation. I placed my collector under the stairs going to the 2nd floor of my shed/barn. I don't have room to hinge the motor and thien baffle, so instead of having the entire motor hinge, I mounted the motor from the bottom of the second story of my shed (barn style), put just my thien baffle onto a hinge mounted to the wall with the trash can under it, and used flex hose from the motor to the hinged thien baffle. Then just like yours I can pivot the baffle up and slide out the can to empty. I looked at a lot of ideas but modifying yours was the by far the best way to make it work.
@petesmith3923
@petesmith3923 7 жыл бұрын
You are technically correct that you should have a straight pipe entrance, but then that really neat hinge would not work, you probably gain more flow by exhausting out the window and not having a filter. A big thumbs UP!
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
Pete Smith Thank you. Budgets and space dictate compromise, and I'm thankful you appreciate that. Thanks for watching.
@jeffkreider5985
@jeffkreider5985 7 жыл бұрын
I would suggest making a couple of forms that the flex hose can be attached to that gives a straight line in as much as possible that allows you to change the angle at 45 degrees. This may take up some of the slack that you have and would improve the flow efficiency. Also from a bit of physics perspective, the weight of the system is actually about 1' out from the wall and not at the wall. What this means is that there are 2 forces to contend with, vertical (downward) and horizontal (pulling away from the wall). If you don't provide adequate mounting, the system will get loose over time. I love the design.
@Massekid
@Massekid 6 жыл бұрын
@@FranklinWoodWorks2016 Anyone who tells you that rigid vs flex makes a damn bit of difference has never had a single fluid dynamics class in their lives. In comparison to the rest of the system it is completely meaningless, unless you are a keyboard warrior of course.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 6 жыл бұрын
@@Massekid Thank you for your encouragement! I'll take it! And since you are the only one that mentioned fluid dynamics, I choose to believe you. It works great, and I couldn't be happier with it.
@Andyloveswood
@Andyloveswood 5 жыл бұрын
@@FranklinWoodWorks2016 From what I read (I'm still in the armchair :) ), things like flex tubing, curves, tight bends each contribute a small amount to reducing air flow. So you eliminate or minimize as many of those as you can given the constraints of your space, the placement of your tools, etc. Then you accept that what's left is the best you can do within your situation. Live with the system for a few months or a few years. Things will change--you'll buy new equipment, rearrange your shop, figure out better workflow. You may think of ways to arrange your dust collection better or you may not. Improve what you can, don't worry about the rest. I think it's a useful video as I try to puzzle out how to do dust collection in my oddly-shaped shop. Thanks.
@michaelopry3456
@michaelopry3456 4 жыл бұрын
"some people would say a straight run would increase cfm"....yes, all things in a perfect world would be perfect, but we don't live in a perfect world. GREAT build, exactly the type of thinking outside the box for getting the can in and out without ramps or other contraptions, and venting straight outside is exactly what we would all be doing when we cut and sand outside our garages without any collection system, so when you have a highly efficient Thien baffle, you are doing more than most people do. Excellent video. thanks for sharing.
@darrellblair5818
@darrellblair5818 5 жыл бұрын
The hinged wall mount was a fantastic idea. I will be using your idea, as I am waiting for my dust collector to be delivered. Glad I saw your video. Thanks for sharing.
@davidlangston6927
@davidlangston6927 Жыл бұрын
Love this. I have needed to upgrade my dust collection, this sure helps. You are right we have to do with what we have in the space that we have to work in.
@thevoigts651
@thevoigts651 7 жыл бұрын
Thank for the idea. I like this much better than any other solutions to emptying the waste can I've seen. I also appreciate the link to the baffle design. I am going to go that route as well and use your idea to mount the DC to the wall soon.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
Gary Voigt Thank you!
@gregbreton2412
@gregbreton2412 4 жыл бұрын
Love this design. I'm looking to get the se HF unit and do a similar setup by blowing the remnants out my garage window. Thinking about the barrel and the process of emptying it (maybe someone pointed this out already though)...you could line a large drawstring trash bag in the barrel with it overlapping the edges so all the dust gets in the bag...then when it's time to empty you just pull out the barrel close the bag up, lift it out and replace with a new trash bag.
@dieselmaniac5191
@dieselmaniac5191 6 жыл бұрын
what a great build!! just got my Harbor Freight dust collector and looking for ways to hang it. This is one of the best ideas I have seen.
@chucksandberg1
@chucksandberg1 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I learned a bit. I currently have the HF collector and have been wondering what I could do to clean up that area of my shop. Thank you for taking the time to share what you’re done and learned. I really like the idea of no filter and blow the fine stuff outside. Great idea. Again thank you.
@jaymond80
@jaymond80 7 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for someone else who is exhausting their dust collector outside, as I live in the country and would like to do it that way myself. Glad to see it can be/is being done. Very nice!
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
+jaymond80 Now that I've been exhausting outside, I don't think I could go back to a filter. I would probably put in a second stage of dust separator before putting in an airflow choking filter.
@mikesibley9339
@mikesibley9339 6 жыл бұрын
jaymond80 what did you do for dust extraction in the country? I too live in the woods, so i mounted my motor on outside of building to reduce sound and pipe the dust into the woods.
@richieprimoretro
@richieprimoretro 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Sibley I'm thinking of doing just what you did. Are you in a calm year-round climate area? If not, how do to protect the motor from the elements, like rain/snow, etc.?
@mikesibley9339
@mikesibley9339 6 жыл бұрын
Richie Primo i have a short “lean to” (metal overhang) on back of my building facing woods. I mounted motor to the exterior wall high tucked under metal roof. My piping goes outside and connects to motor, and i ran a exhaust from the motor about 15’ into the woods. Never have bags to empty and sound is greatly reduced. I live in south Louisiana so it rains often and is alway 90% humid. This winter it was in the teens a lot. I have had the motor hanging there outside for 18 months with no issues yet. When it fails, I’ll spend 200 on a new one.
@richieprimoretro
@richieprimoretro 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Sibley Thanks for that info, Mike - that's about what I assumed you'd done. I'm going to build a small awning-type enclosure and use a RF remote switch. I agree if it only holds up to the elements a few years out there I'll grab a coupon and replace it for $160. Thanks again!
@rjjrrailsgscalesolenske5231
@rjjrrailsgscalesolenske5231 6 жыл бұрын
Nice setup,i want both options. Use a filter in winter to keep heat in ,summer just vent outside
@John-NeverStopLearning
@John-NeverStopLearning 2 жыл бұрын
Nice design. I would go back to the filter. I a Northern state. I would be pumping hot air out in the winter and cool air in the summer. What about the negative pressure in your building when the dust collector is running?
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very lucky. My shop is subterranean, with only one wall exposed to the outside. My shop stays at a constant 75 in the summer, and around 62 in the coldest of winter. Venting outside does change the temperature, but it's rarely on long enough to alter the temperature noticeably. But, I agree with you, for most people this would be a bad idea.
@oxintheshop
@oxintheshop 7 жыл бұрын
Rob awesome design turned out great.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
Ox In The Shop Thanx Ox!
@smjhal
@smjhal Жыл бұрын
Looks great. I was hoping to see how you made your baffle.
@georgeboyle3967
@georgeboyle3967 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your innovation to reduce cannister filter replacement costs and space.
@dallanwordekemper3836
@dallanwordekemper3836 7 жыл бұрын
Great method of removing the barrel when filled. In the process of mounting my Harbor Freight buy and enjoy seeing the ideas of others. Thanks.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I, too, spent a lot of time looking at others' HF modifications. It's a shame you just can't buy the motor by itself for cheap (from HF).
@sutterrock
@sutterrock 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea venting outside. That free up alot of space. Thank you !
@Overit5000
@Overit5000 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best vids and concepts I’ve seen 🤷🏻‍♂️ good job!
@davidfriedman3962
@davidfriedman3962 5 жыл бұрын
Yes outlet through 3/4” plywood with dryer flap outside. Increasing impeller to 12” made huge improvement in airflow.
@MrWkendwarrior
@MrWkendwarrior 7 жыл бұрын
Nice simple bagless upgrade to HF dust collecter. I agree the bag would be a pain. I may modify your idea for a lighter Rubbermaid garbage can since I plan to set mine up in the basement, and climbing stairs w a barrel would not be an option. New subscriber, looking fwd to more of your videos!
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
David Greenwood I have no first hand knowledge, but I've heard of some folks having trouble using the Rubbermaid cans. Apparently they may collapse once the suction is turned on. I can imagine there could be many factors that cause this. There are smaller metal cans available you might want to try to be on the safe side. I'd like it if you could send me pictures of the finished product. Always looking to improve.
@StArFuRyZz
@StArFuRyZz 7 жыл бұрын
I mounted mine on the wall with a baffle and it works great. I would like to have it exhaust outside my garage but then my front yard would be covered in a fine layer of sawdust...and my wife wouldn't like that. I'm sure the neighbors would be upset at how dusty their cars are too. I agree with your comment that you have to make do with the space you have...that's why my equipment is all on casters.
@650woodworks
@650woodworks 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at doing the same thing what size exhaust port did you use
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 3 жыл бұрын
I just went with a 4" exhaust since that was the size of the pipe used in the shop. Looking back, I'd have used 5", but I'm pretty happy with what I'm getting out of the 4".
@650woodworks
@650woodworks 3 жыл бұрын
@@FranklinWoodWorks2016 sounds good thank you
@lewisgottschalk2178
@lewisgottschalk2178 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent modification for those with limited space.
@AllenOxendine
@AllenOxendine 6 жыл бұрын
Cool design. Hadn't started working, but I'm thinking about dust collection... So many different ideas, you're looks simple enough and I also have a space issue...
@richardpatterson4312
@richardpatterson4312 5 жыл бұрын
I have a very similar design. Out the window with the exhaust is great for flow and clean air in the shop. I'm planning if heating my garage this winter, haven't decided how yet and I'm concerned that all the heat will end up outside. Especially since I mainly do lathe projects so it'll run constantly. I bet that's not an issue in Georgia. I'll try and figure a hinge into my set up but the straight pipe will be an issue as well as the dust cyclone. I'll think it over though.
@ilyaivanov1745
@ilyaivanov1745 7 жыл бұрын
It's always interesting to watch your videos !
@belindamanning9851
@belindamanning9851 7 жыл бұрын
I think your idea is great. Looks easy to move the barrel. I would like to vent outside as well and will. As you said, the dust bag is useless and fine dust settles everywhere. Can you show us your baffle build?
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
I will do even better than that. The link I'm including is part 1 of 5 of the video I used to build mine. I even used his dimensions. I am very glad I built the baffle, and I love how efficient it is. I gained many skills during the build, and for all that I am grateful. All that being said, if I had it to do again, I'd probably just use something like a dust deputy, although that would have impacted my design of this particular unit. I haven't seen a side by side comparison as to which is better, so my preference is probably just laziness. Anyway, I encourage you to build one if you're inclined, I think it will serve you well. Here's a link to the video:kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2S1pn58pr57hLM Thanks for watching!
@akquicksilver
@akquicksilver 7 жыл бұрын
Great idea on the hinged plywood for the barrel removal. Nice!
@renobtankit6019
@renobtankit6019 5 жыл бұрын
very nice build, think I might just copy it :) getting a HF unit next week. thanks for the vid
@bobnicholas5994
@bobnicholas5994 4 жыл бұрын
I am close to jumping into this dust collection system. How do you empty that 50 gallon drum? I make a lot of saw dust. I think your set up is right on. Thx
@tonym2328
@tonym2328 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any issues with temperature in your shop? I heard one person say that. Eating outside sucks the heat or air conditioning out very fast.
@drooten
@drooten 4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering about vibration, if any.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 4 жыл бұрын
Zero. I've got no issues with the motor, whatsoever
@TrotterG
@TrotterG 4 жыл бұрын
How near are your neighbors? Is it loud outside? Have you taken any steps to reduce noise outside? I ask because I'm considering something similar but my neighbors house is about 12 feet way from mine.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 4 жыл бұрын
My neighbor's house is around 40 ft away. Fortunately, there are no windows on that side of his house. From the outside, it sounds like a fan. It's really not any louder than an air conditioning unit. But out of consideration, I don't really run it after 9pm.
@TrotterG
@TrotterG 4 жыл бұрын
@@FranklinWoodWorks2016 Thanks for taking the time to provide that info.
@johngodden1665
@johngodden1665 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, have you produced a video for the dust separator? If you what is the link? If I am waiting for your video. 😊
@billbyrd9845
@billbyrd9845 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant arrangement. I'm going to do the same thing with regard to filtration. Just need to find someone to bore a hole in my brick and concrete block wall.
@MONNIEHOLT
@MONNIEHOLT 5 жыл бұрын
That is a great set up, you did a great job
@michaelcannon9271
@michaelcannon9271 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a set of plans made for this?
@michaelbottoms5633
@michaelbottoms5633 4 жыл бұрын
Did you make the separator? Any tips on that part?
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 4 жыл бұрын
Here is a link to the first of a five part series that watched before I built mine. I used this design exactly - not the dimensions - but the design concepts, and for the most part I used the same construction methods laid out in the video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2S1pn58pr57hLM
@cuttheloop
@cuttheloop 4 жыл бұрын
Love this configuration. Would be a good fit for me as I have about the same small corner area for my vac.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 4 жыл бұрын
Words cannot describe how happy I am with this setup. I got lucky on this project and got it right the first time. It fits my needs perfectly. I hope you are able to adapt some of the ideas for your needs.
@fredastaire6156
@fredastaire6156 3 жыл бұрын
great video, thank you for the great ideas for my own HF dust collector Quick question, is there a way to remove and replace the actual motor or is it sealed on the dust collection unit?
@jrtmanmd
@jrtmanmd 4 жыл бұрын
I have a general question pertaining to all of these Harbor Freight DC videos. All of these videos seem to mount the HFDC in a vertical orientation. While others, Rockler for example, tend to mount their DC's horizontally. Is this a HF requirement to mount vertically? Or is there another reason for it?
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 4 жыл бұрын
I see no reason why you couldn't mount it anyway you want it. I did mine the way I did it simply for the way it interacts with the barrel.
@rogerobrient8339
@rogerobrient8339 3 жыл бұрын
@@FranklinWoodWorks2016 The bearings in the motor may be designed to orient in a specific way (relative to gravity), and mounting it on its side could shorten the lifetime. I asked Grizzly tech support if there was a problem with doing this, and they basically didn't want to answer the question. So I suspect that it's fine. Since you've had this running for a few years now, can you report if you've had any problems? Roughly how many hours have you put on the system since installing it like this?
@boo7998
@boo7998 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video for how you made your baffle??
@richieprimoretro
@richieprimoretro 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, sir. I just got my HF collector and plan to go your route by venting outside (nothing but woods surround the rear end of my property and detached shop). Wondering if you know the reason such venting would (supposedly) affect the (controlled) temp of my shop - especially when the machines run for such a short period and limited number of times? Thanks again for the ideas.
@CraftsmanontheLake
@CraftsmanontheLake 5 жыл бұрын
I love the hinge idea to put the weight on the barrel and make a good seal. Bravo on this idea. I'd like to do this with my dust collector. Do you live in a cold area? Here in Maine I've wondered about venting all my heat out doors when the collector is running. I have a fairly inexpensive and quick recovery heating system so I don't mind doing this but always wondered how much it would cool the shop off.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 5 жыл бұрын
Maine is a little bit of a drive from Georgia! I wish I could answer your question, but I can only ask more questions that may eventually give you an answer. My shop is basically underground, with a house on top. Although it's not climate controlled, it stays between 50 degrees during the coldest of the winter to about 78 during the summer. So my questions are; What kind of shop do you have? Is it one that runs several hours a day, or is it a hobby? What are your dust collection habits? My dust collector usually only runs when a tool is on, so that means a couple of minutes at a time (unless I'm milling a ton of lumber). If you determine that you can't afford to lose the heat - very understandable in Maine - I'd consider a Wynn filter instead of the bag. It's an investment, but it filters better than the bag and allows the dust collector to breathe better. Good luck!
@netterstyl
@netterstyl 6 жыл бұрын
Folks might want to think twice about venting their rigs to the outside. That setup moves a large amount of cooled (or heated) indoor air (that you may have paid considerable money to heat or cool) and dumps it outside. Of course, your temps outside and your amount of usage of the vac setup will determine just how much money (and comfort) you're sacrificing, but it is something to consider.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 6 жыл бұрын
You are correct on all points. Maybe I should have been more clear on my particular situation, but I figure that many DIYers will make the appropriate modifications to fit their needs. My shop is not climate controlled, so all of the concerns you brought up, all legitimate, don't apply to my shop. But your points are something I may need to address in a future video. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@eo1scwmwf
@eo1scwmwf 7 жыл бұрын
Something I may need to try soon. Thank you for the inspiration.
@sheilaw977
@sheilaw977 2 жыл бұрын
My shop space is so small I can’t turn around worh an 8’ 2x4. Ugh. My HF dust collector takes ups so much room. I’ve tried the badge and failed. Maybe it’s my lack of skill. Can you help ?
@bulldogg187
@bulldogg187 7 жыл бұрын
fantastic!! Love this. Big thumbs up. Was considering mounting mine on the wall with a french cleat. Like this idea better
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
+ernest jr sanford Thank you!
@davidfriedman3962
@davidfriedman3962 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. I want to do the same with my HF dust collector. I like you left window in, Looks like window is raised and the outlet runs through piece of plywood? Can you explain or send pic? Thank you.
@dlv444
@dlv444 5 жыл бұрын
Going to exhaust mine to outside next weekend. Will be using a dryer vent termination with a flapper to keep the critters out. Cut holes, secure flange to exterior stucco, support pipe to stud on the inside (cutting 4" hole right next to stud).
@davidfriedman3962
@davidfriedman3962 5 жыл бұрын
GS1 I found it easy to use window opening, made frame from 3/4 ply, trimmed it out, braced it and put a dryer vent on the HF outlet. I used a wheel puller to remove old 10” impeller. Rented one from auto parts just had to leave a $40.00 deposit and they gave me back my deposit when I returned tool. Huge improvement in airflow. Today I took old HF cart mounted my Shop vac and small Oneida dust collector to cart used existing holes in cart really simple. Now I have two dust collection systems. I can hook up shop vac to table saw and other to lathe. Plus it saves me from storing cart. If you want I can post pic.
@dlv444
@dlv444 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidfriedman3962 Cool deal Dave. I just put a window in my shop, but I want to use it as a window :) I will just go through the wall. Good idea using the old cart though!
@MrBrianDuga
@MrBrianDuga 7 жыл бұрын
Great design. How does it do in winter, does it result in cold air infiltration from negative air pressure?
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I have no idea. My basement is underground on three sides, so the temperature is pretty constant year round. If I haven't noticed any temperature changes, it may be because I rarely run it for more than a few minutes at a time.
@douglasthompson2740
@douglasthompson2740 7 жыл бұрын
I am getting ready to put together my system (now that my shop addition gives me the space). I see you vent directly outside. Several other people who built a system noted that an outside discharge will quickly pull your work space to ambient temperature if you are heating or cooling it. Unless you are lucky enough to live in a year round seventy degree climate that would be a huge problem. It would seem that since as you say almost nothing makes it through that exhausting inside through a bag or other media filter would be the way to go? Any thoughts on this? Take care. Doug
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
My shop is in my walkout basement, meaning that although I have an exterior wall where I vent the system, the other three sides are underground. So, my shop stays between 72 and 62 degrees year round with no climate control. I guess the dust collection is pulling the air ultimately from my house up the stairs. So I don't really have a comment on the ambient temperature issue, although I could see that being a problem with a stand alone or garage shop. If you're not going to vent outside, I'd keep the collection bag and filter in place. However, because of airflow concerns, I'd definitely upgrade the filter bag to a Wynn filter. Direct venting increased my airflow considerably, and the Wynn filter will do the same.
@Justin-C
@Justin-C 6 жыл бұрын
Another consideration is that a 500+ CFM exhaust flow could effectively negate the updraft effect that your water heater's exhaust relies on.. which could mean carbon monoxide buildup in the house. Furnaces are less likely to be affected by this as they usually have draft inducer blowers to push the exhaust out by force.
@ThePercolators2014
@ThePercolators2014 3 жыл бұрын
What's in the baffle section?
@albertdawson6814
@albertdawson6814 3 жыл бұрын
Is that the original motor? If not what did you replace it with?
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 3 жыл бұрын
That is indeed the original. Still going strong with no issues.
@joedance14
@joedance14 Жыл бұрын
Looks nice!
@edpretty8344
@edpretty8344 2 жыл бұрын
By running your discharge outside you will have a pressure differential between outside and inside. If this occurs you will reduce your flow significantly. If you crack a window or already have some equalizing measure, then no problem. In winter, however, you will be heating the whole neighbourhood. :(
@ewijntuin
@ewijntuin 7 жыл бұрын
isn't the barrel crazy heavy when its full? how do ypu transver the dust to a garbage can?
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
ewijntuin It's not that bad, maybe 45 lbs or so.
@gsftom
@gsftom 6 жыл бұрын
great design and video. thanks for sharing!
@visa1960
@visa1960 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video I mounted mine the same way works excellent
@kevingeaney7741
@kevingeaney7741 7 жыл бұрын
Rob, like yourself I have a small shop and I need to do some upgrades. I have watched many videos and the interesting thing about your thien cyclone is that it looks like it is about 5in high. All the others appear to be more than double that? It seems as if this thing works nomatter what dimensions are used. Tell me, how far into the top cover is the suction connection projecting, - is it flush with the inside of the cover or does it go almost as far as the baffle.? Kevin
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
The connection protrudes exactly halfway into the baffle. I couldn't be happier with the performance. I built mine based on the attached link. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2S1pn58pr57hLM
@ephraimvivian1
@ephraimvivian1 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video to show how you made the baffle
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
ephraim vivian Sadly, I cannot. It is way too in depth of a build. And, much of it is glued together so I'd have to do some demolition to take it apart. However, I'm including a link to the 1st video of the series I used when I built mine. This guy goes in to excruciating detail of how to build it, and I almost duplicated it exactly. Works like a dream. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2S1pn58pr57hLM The only negative thing I've had happen, was I sucked up a ton of shavings from a hand plane, and the baffle got clogged. I should have known that it is designed as dust collection, not a vacuum cleaner. Really big stuff isn't compatible with it. Just stick to sawdust and you'll be fine.
@RickJones222
@RickJones222 7 жыл бұрын
Nicely done!
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
Rick Jones Thank you!
@snaggletooth14
@snaggletooth14 4 жыл бұрын
Quick and easy....I like it!
@baynatig9056
@baynatig9056 6 жыл бұрын
хөдөлгүүрийн эргэлт хэд вэWhat is the turnaround?
@kickpublishing
@kickpublishing 7 жыл бұрын
I dont quite get it mate, so theres no cyclone at all, you are just using a fein baffle over a drum? And then exhausting outside. But what separates the chips from the dust? The Baffle? I'm baffled. This is exactly what I wanted to do but I thought I needed a cyclone.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
Mr. President, the Thien Baffle works basically the same way a cyclone works - centrifugal force cause the heavy objects to the sides, where friction makes them slow down and gravity makes them fall into the barrel. It's just more compact than a cyclone. To be honest, the reason I built it to begin with was to see if I could do it, not for space considerations. However, now that I have it, and I know how well it works, the space saving aspect is a huge plus.
@kickpublishing
@kickpublishing 7 жыл бұрын
Finally, an explanation I can understand, after watching a dozen videos on this topic, thank you. So would you say that the Thien baffle continues to be relatively efficient even when the drum is say 70% full? Because I note that some say this is the key difference between cyclones and simply 2 pipes going into a bucket lid.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
I don't have any hard numbers, but I don't notice any decrease in efficiency based on the contents of the barrel. The two pipes into a bucket lid is really just a chip separator, worthless for dust. That's where the cyclones and baffles shine.
@k.b.woodworker3250
@k.b.woodworker3250 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice mod! Love the hinge! Is that a 1 hp or the larger 2 hp collector with everything stripped away?
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 6 жыл бұрын
It's the 2 hp. I'm pretty happy with the set up.
@russpeterson1918
@russpeterson1918 7 жыл бұрын
Hi all We did like your design so we copied as much as we could, ours is working out well!Thank you Russ
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
Russ Peterson I'm happy it's working for you. Thanks for watching.
@carlmcgaughey7745
@carlmcgaughey7745 Жыл бұрын
I have the same setup (no hinge). Thanks.
@bobclifton8021
@bobclifton8021 5 жыл бұрын
I've been wrestling with potential solutions for my HF dust collector. Your's is a nice simple way to kill the snake. Good Job. Do you have a video on the Thein baffle?
@randallbrooks2219
@randallbrooks2219 7 жыл бұрын
Love the piano hinge design. How is the collection system holding up? it has almost been a year!
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
Randall Brooks Still going strong. It's one a the few things I've done in my shop I have absolutely no regrets about. I'd do it the same way all over again.
@tooljunkie555
@tooljunkie555 6 жыл бұрын
I like this idea. Space is precious in my shop also might have to copy ya on this. Nothings perfect and I use flex hose too and it works fine. Just subscribed idk if u sub other channels but would love to have u on board. Have a good one bro look fwd to seeing more of what u have done and do
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub. I gave your channel a look and I subbed. You've got some good content, and I look forward to checking it out.
@CS-PROD-i3s
@CS-PROD-i3s 4 жыл бұрын
You sure that's a 55 gal drum? Looks kinda small.....
@davidschaeffer
@davidschaeffer 7 жыл бұрын
I may have to try this out.
@KC-tn8ls
@KC-tn8ls 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect, this is awesome!!!
@joedance14
@joedance14 2 жыл бұрын
Real nice!
@richieprimoretro
@richieprimoretro 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent setup. Pay no mind to the Dust Police trolling the comment area.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! I've learned patience and tolerance.
@brandonroberts1653
@brandonroberts1653 7 жыл бұрын
great design man. can I ask where you got the o-ring for the barrel? also what size o-ring is it? thanks.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
+Brandon Roberts O-ring may have been a mischaracterization. I cut a channel that matches the rim of the barrel, and I put in soft weather stripping. I guess "home made gasket" is what I should have said.
@josephbatitto7995
@josephbatitto7995 7 жыл бұрын
FranklinWoodWorks what size motor is the blower
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
2 HP.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
2 horse
@jshpaint
@jshpaint 6 жыл бұрын
That’s slick
@joecox9958
@joecox9958 6 жыл бұрын
super nice! thanks a lot!
@KagedBooks
@KagedBooks 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@kathyparker7140
@kathyparker7140 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome love to have the plan
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
+Kathy Parker I didn't make any plans. It was built to fit in my space, and I'm sure yours is a different space. But if you like the concept, it should be easy enough to adapt for your needs. Thanks for watching.
@gregjohnson1872
@gregjohnson1872 11 ай бұрын
I looked through your videos and did not see how you made your baffle. I'll keep looking, but if you see this and feel like pushing me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 11 ай бұрын
It's called a "thien baffle." I didn't do a video because others on KZbin have already posted builds. The videos I used as a guide were "Thien Baffle Top Hat Dust Separator" by ghostses. It's a five part series (really long but super detailed). I think I used his plans exactly, the variation may have been accounting for the size of my dust bin. Don't make the same mistake as others - make sure your dust bin is rigid. A plastic Rubbermaid trash can will collapse under the suction. I used a 55 gal drum, but I think any metal trash can will work. Although the build was tedious, it was very fun and the results are awesome. Good luck.
@kenwhitworth5628
@kenwhitworth5628 7 жыл бұрын
Great Idea
@bnssoftware3292
@bnssoftware3292 2 жыл бұрын
Clever!
@joeygonzo
@joeygonzo 4 жыл бұрын
43 people work for oneida or rockler
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 4 жыл бұрын
You got that right.
@patc7198
@patc7198 3 жыл бұрын
I was trying to follow you, but you lost me when I notice you weren't wearing any paints
@shanetho2865
@shanetho2865 7 жыл бұрын
Fucking genius
@johnware5312
@johnware5312 7 жыл бұрын
you need to put the separator BEFORE the blower, not after. 2 main reasons: 1. it will prolong the life of the blower as nothing other than fine dust will hit the blades. 2. Safety reason ---- if you pick up nails and they hit the impeller blade you get sparks. Hot sparks going into a bin full of sawdust can and has burnt down a number of shops.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
John Ware I think that if you look closely you'll see that the blower IS after the separator. From the blower it goes straight outside.
@escaflowne33055
@escaflowne33055 7 жыл бұрын
this guy writes the same BS concerns on all these videos. the whole spark idea for a HOME shop is false. all from incorrectly applying industrial dust collection systems to hobby shops. all "evidences" of "burnt down shops" have been other reasons, mainly a direct heat source being exposed to the dust not some tiny sparks, which would be instantly snuffed out anyways by the cfm rate.
@FranklinWoodWorks2016
@FranklinWoodWorks2016 7 жыл бұрын
ri mar I agree that the dust ignition is something I've never worried about. I've never seen one documented case of static discharge causing ignition. I'm really happy with the way my system works. The only thing I'd change is the layout of the pipes through the shop.
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