How Doctor Who Perfectly Wrote Out Clara Oswald

[@HarboWholmes]

Well you all know what episode is next. And if you want early access to the Heaven Sent review later this month, you can join my Patreon! www.patreon.com/harbowholmes

[@mackielunkey2205]

You're saving Heaven Sent for the 50th anniversary date are you lol. I get it, it's the highest rated episode in the DW magazine too.

[@pepavasata6790]

"The Doctor is no longer here, you are stuck with me!" is probably the hardest line 12 has ever said.

[@MrImdead]

Especially because "me" is what she calls herself. So in a way he's stripping them both of their chosen roles

[@Pat12379]

Tge hardis line the doctor has ever said

[@Pat12379]

​@@MrImdeadi never though of that

[@deadpooldan9862]

That’s scarier than any monster, because when the Doctor is gone, you’re left with the fire that’s destroyed entire planets and species aimed at you

[@Samviking01]

Capaldi & Coleman's range of emotion in their facial expressions alone in their final scene really cemented them as some of the best doctor/ companion pairings we have had, IMO

[@jacobbastin802]

This is random, I know, but I had to mention this... I don't know why, but I personally think that putting Peter and Jenna's last names together like you did here just sounds... So. Damn. Good! "Capaldi & Coleman"... it just rolls of the tongue. Probably the best way to refer to the time frame of their collaboration together: The Capaldi/Coleman Era.

[@MeridaEdhytSanwheyLosd]

Exacto, no podiste haberlo descrito mejor que eso. Y que bueno que lo hayas notado. Es una que los demas no quieran admitirlo o no quieran verlo por los prejuicios. a mi me facino desde un principio esta combimacion perfecta de 12th y Clara mas que 11th y Clara

[@mjvdg4194]

There’s something great about the similarity between the raven and the mummy on the Orient Express. There’s a fresh example in our minds of an inevitable, oncoming death that can’t be fought, run from, pleaded or bargained with. This time it is Clara who got the figurative countdown on the screen. What’s more they kinda close the loop; since Orient Express was supposed to be Clara’s last adventure but she stuck around, in some ways starting this inevitable countdown then and there. Even though we couldn’t see it, her death at her own hand started there. Even if unintentional, having these two episodes as mirrors is fantastic. The Doctor faces a similar threat twice; once with time, resources, and the detachment to stop it. Once with none of that.

[@MeridaEdhytSanwheyLosd]

Muy bueno hermano, la verdad no lo vi de esa foma. Que buena percepcion de enlazar ambos episodios tiene mucho sentido

[@TripleJumpYTP]

I'm glad that they stuck to this ending for Clara and never went back on it in any way at all ever

[@thepandorica1660]

You know, I'm kinda tired of all this Hell Bent hate. A bunch of people really misunderstand it. If you don't like it, fair enough, but the narrative of the whole trilogy was going in that direction anyway.

[@TripleJumpYTP]

@@thepandorica1660 I like the episode in general but I'm personally not a fan of how they gave Clara a time machine or whatever to let her prevent her death for a little longer. I know she dies eventually but she basically has all the time she wants as long as she ends up back there in the end. I like most of the other things though and I do not hate the episode.

[@thepandorica1660]

@@TripleJumpYTP yeah, I guess I can understand that

[@ishathakor]

@@thepandorica1660 not really. i understand hell bent, i just don't like it. in concept i like the idea of clara whizzing about the universe in a time machine but i just didn't like how it was done

[@s.k.6100]

I guess I land in the middle. I think bringing back Clara to help the Doctor escape Gallifrey (again) and helping him steal a TARDIS is great and all, and I love Clara as a companion, but giving her a pass to do and go where/whenever undercuts her death. Making the Doctor own up to him having to truly let Clara go would have brought the final stages of grief that was set up to pay off. Forcing her back into her moment would really let him know it's over.

[@barry1369]

“You will save Clara now, or I will reign hell on you for the rest of time.” What a fucking line

[@kenthomas505]

The best Companion depature for the best Companion ever. This story sets up so well Heaven Sent, and even Hell Bent I must admit, that they are basically an intertwined trilogy. It also shows how so closely linked the Doctor and Clara are to each other and how losing her stikes such a killing blow to him. As Missy said to his face, he would do anything for her, even go to Hell for her, and he basically did in the next story. They did have a profound, platonic love for one another, and breaking that bond was too much for the Doctor to bear. These two were meant to be together, perfect for one another, yet at the same time destined to be torn apart because of their reckless natures. Their destiny was doomed from the start, but this first of a three part epilouge is the perfect send off, and fairwell, to Clara and the unique relationship/ bond she shared with the Doctor. She tried to be just like him and died because of it. But the connection between these two will endure and never be broken. Now it's on to the the masterpiece that is Heaven Sent. 4 and a half billion years in the making.

[@gisela_oliveira]

I'm a bit late, but i need to add to this: Watching some character departure makes you realize how the doctor forms different bonds with them, depending on how they met. 10th loved Rose like 11th lover Amy like 12 loved Clara, because of what 11th said "you are the first face this face saw". Their first companion after regeneration. Of course, they do develop another huge bond with someone else. 10th and Donna had a really strong bond because of how she saved him, he was there in his dark moment when he almost gave up.

[@katarinabrunk8698]

The final ten minutes burns so much. Especially with the fact that Clara's scream when the raven passes through her is silenced, we can't hear it, but the Doctor can 😢

[@CobaltXMusic]

Heaven Sent next! I’m excited to see what, if anything, Harbo doesn’t like about it. This is gonna be good!

[@laineydavis00]

This episode always makes me cry my eyes out. Great review. I especially appreciate your point about how this is the first time in NuWho that the Doctor and the companion truly get to say goodbye. It's so poignant and beautiful and really emphasizes Clara's agency. This was, after all, her choice, a consequence of her actions. The episode sets of Heaven Sent and Hell Bent so well. Heaven Sent of course is a classic but I also adore Hell Bent, and how it continues to emphasize Clara's agency

[@randomericthings7506]

Everyone talks about the Doctor blaming himself, but no one brings up the guilt Rixy must feel as he agreed to Clara’s plan to transfer the countdown to her.

[@Jedi_Spartan]

Ah yes, the 3rd out of 4 of Clara's "exits" from the show...

[@CashelOConnolly]

Well Moffat was too sentimental to kill off his characters 🙄

[@thepandorica1660]

Yes. I always forget about her exit in TUaT

[@BarioIDL]

the doctor exited the show dozen of times, what's your point?

[@sanddagger36]

19:17 the doctor is not his name. If he wants, he can discard the title and then you are stuck with a wrathful face changing god.

[@dearls921]

I’ve always loved when the doctor is going all angry and asks Ashildr if she’s ever heard of anyone who’s stopped him. Right after you have Clara telling him to stop. In the words of Missy, HEEL BOY.

[@bradugar]

what makes clara's departure so sad is that fact in NuWho he's the first Companion who actually dies, Rose trapped in another world, Martha is Alive & Well on Earth working for UNIT, Donna yes tragic she lost her memories is still alive, Amy & Rory got to grow old together as they always wanted. Than Clara, she dies.

[@breakingthenotion.6045]

I love this episode. I love the story arc of Clara acting so much like a doctor that it get her killed. It’s a s dark and tragic story arc that I expect Russell t Davis to do. It was also fun watching Clara go down a spiral ever since Danny died. I don’t like how Steve moffat tease Clara leaving several time but this was a good one.

[@Maeve_Rose]

i really dont understand how they couldnt have used the TARDIS to leave. its a quantum shade, but its still stuck in real space. sure it can phase through objects, but the TARDIS could go back in time and not be worried, or forward, or literally anywhere. nothing we have been shown makes it seem like it can breach the TARDIS, especially not in flight.

[@NicoFitz]

I recently rewatched all of new who recently and the convo between clara and 12 after they realize her mistake is the only scene that made me cry. The acting was just off the charts and had me in tears. I cried the first time i saw the episode too because clara is my favorite companion. This rewatch of the show really cemented capaldi as one of my favorites (probably right next to smith in 2nd place) hes just so perfect

[@aeloswindrunner]

Heaven Sent wouldn't have worked anywhere near as well without this strong setup imo

[@apanapandottir205]

I love this story. I've actually written song with a bunch of dr who stuff in it where the chorus is based on the "let me be brave" line. That scene kills me every time.

[@kieranleehamilton]

Just finished rewatching series 8 & 9 for the first time since it aired. I have to say, both seasons are massively underrated, and Capaldi and Coleman are criminally, criminally, underrated. Favourite Doctor, favourite companion.

[@BobPsomiadis]

Clara fatal judgement was that she was too overconfident and didn't check /discuss this with the experienced timelord first .

[@plantainsame2049]

She really was too much like him Never checking the scanner, not thinking to tie the scarf around him like a sash and tie that to the satellite Is not attempting to materialize the targets around cass Instead of trying to convince her to come with him

[@R_SENAL]

I loved this episode too, the tragedy was real and the Doctor's reactions and the acting of Capaldi was just awesome. I love this story Because it's heartbreaking! An absolute merciless kicking to the feels. I only wish this had been her true end. Or rather, I wish the ending 2 episodes later was changed to where he had to still let her die, and no traveling with Ashildr, just done right then despite all his efforts.

[@darren.mcauliffe]

How can Heaven Sent be a little known hidden gem and be the most popular and beloved episode of the series?

[@one_smol_duck]

That line confused me as well lol

[@PuzzleGameNoob]

It’s a running joke in the who community to pretend it’s a hidden gem lol

[@LadyTsunade777]

Face the Raven and Heaven Sent were some of the best episodes the revival's had. Even as someone that quite heavily disliked Clara, even I have to admit it was quite the gut punch for her to die that way, but it was written so well and worked so well for both her character and the situation. And then Hell Bent had to go and ruin it all in so many ways.

[@deadpooldan9862]

It literally ruined nothing

[@ftumschk]

@@deadpooldan9862 Agreed, although it did ruin any vestige of faith I had in the objectivity of many Doctor Who fans. Instead, I saw people jumping on the bandwagon of the over-reactions of influential WhoTubers who were almost pathologically critical the Moffat era. Hell Bent - the Doctor Who story that became "trendy" to hate! Personally, I never understood what all the venom was about, and I still don't.

[@deadpooldan9862]

@@ftumschk I’ve heard people say it undoes everything the Doctor went through in Heaven Sent because of everything he did to save Clara, which, if you think about it, it really doesn’t. He spent 4.5 BILLION years trapped in a hell made just for him, of course he’d try to get revenge and save his best friend in the process. I don’t think he normally would have gone to those lengths had he not been through his hell before

[@thepandorica1660]

​@@deadpooldan9862not to mention that in hindsight "get up off your arse and win" is actually not about getting over grief. Her saying this is what leads to him committing to his actions in Hell Bent, which he was about to consider giving up on. It's also his very own mental personification of her.

[@blossom357]

If it were truly about that, why didn't he attempt to save Amy, Rory, or Rose? They could have written any number of bullshit reasons to save them. To be clear, I'm glad they didn't, but they could have, and the fact Moffat did for Clara proves she is his favorite to an IRRATIONAL degree.@@deadpooldan9862

[@deadpooldan9862]

Just rewatched the episode, and it’s so sad, especially when Clara’s giving her speech to the Doctor and you know he’s going to do the exact opposite of what she wants, but to be fair, he was driven far past his own breaking point

[@0th_Law]

Another thing I like about this episode is another casual mention of Clara's relationship with Jane Austen. I know people like to ship Clara and the 12th, but forget that in both seasons they were together, Clara had an established SO.

[@deadpooldan9862]

And she dated and was in love with Danny Pink. I feel like Jane Austin was more a friend with benefits for Clara, or just a really close friend Clara liked to kiss. Got nothing against the ship, just saying she had an actual established SO we actually met and say die and turn into a Cyberman before dying again

[@0th_Law]

@@deadpooldan9862 Yeah, he was dead, and the Jane Austen relationship was brought up in the series after he died. Presumably, that was at least partially done to show that Clara had managed to move on from Danny, while simultaneously hammering home the idea that she’s somewhat unmoored from the present: instead of a present-day relationship, her current SO is one she can’t meet without using the TARDIS.

[@deadpooldan9862]

@@0th_Law fair point, but considering she mentioned Danny before she died, and Missy mentioned him as her boyfriend as a taunt, it’s pretty clear, whatever Clara’s relationship to Jane Austen is, she still loves Danny and she probably always would. So while it’s likely she did move on, it’s equally as likely she just as a fling or close friend in Jane Austen. But I actually would have liked to see that relationship on screen just cause it seems fun

[@saras5552]

Clara is and always will be my favorite companion

[@MeridaEdhytSanwheyLosd]

Collepaldi was the best and only interpretation of Docto/companion that there was in the series, which in fact I don't think I will see or repeat again in the way in which both managed to convey through a look, expressions on their faces all those motions that their characters felt at that moment. Coleman/Capaldi managed to convey that feeling to the fans who saw it. In my opinion it is something that I did not see and is not seen very often in the series between doctor/companion that is why it was a perfect complement 12th/clara

[@Road_to_Dawn]

“The Doctor is no longer here, you are stuck with me!” One of my favorite lines in all of Capaldi’s era. The delivery and everything behind it, just so good. It’s final and terrifying! And right up there is the Doctor asking Ashildr why Clara told him not to take revenge. Ashildr says Clara was saving the Doctor, but the Doctor corrects her, saying Clara was saving Ashildr. I love it.

[@dougsfilmtv9810]

Good review! I remember when I first saw this story. I had no idea that Clara was going to die and when I saw her death scene, I was like wow this is her last story. I think this story does a great job writing Clara off and this should have been her last story. I do think Peter Capaldi and Jenna Colmen both give a great Proformance in this story. I do like the idea of a hidden street with aliens that is perfect. I also like The Doctor's line when he says you'll find that it is a very small universe when I am angry with you and Peter Capaldi delivers that line perfectly with rage and I think he also deserved an Emmy for that Proformance. You can tell he is really upset that he couldn't save Clara and he is defeated in this story. I am looking forward to seeing your review of Heaven Sent and this is going to be gold.

[@thepoetoffall7820]

“The Doctor is no longer here, you are stuck with me” is such a great line.

[@evolve991]

I absolutely hate endings and have all my life. Every reaction from a low grade sadness for a few days to full blown depression lasting weeks all depending on the movie or TV series or,the worst, a 14 book long series. This ending, all 3 episodes, does a great job of showing the lengths I would go to in dealing a loved ones death and my efforts to change reality.

[@nakanokuma]

Thanks for these videos and highlighting some of the better writing that came from Moffat's reign. 12 is the Sara Lee of Doctors... layer upon layer upon layer. I think there's even more in this episode. The Raven conjures, as it has to, Poe and the concept of "nevermore"... That Clara will live nevermore, that 12 will never get over losing her, that even though she comes back, they can't be together... and further, that 12 saves Ashildar so she can die nevermore, and she, in essence, ends Clara's life. Disagree with you that their love is platonic. Absolutely isn't. But it can't be consummated. Clara wanted that with 11, 12 wanted it with Clara. - 12: Clara, I'm not your boyfriend. Clara: I never thought you were. 12: I never said it was your mistake. - Not platonic.

[@lucyairapetian407]

I just moved to a rented apartment and have been struggling to feel at home. Your first 16 seconds of the video helped me feel that instantly. Thank you, Harbo ❤

[@HeyJay2000]

I definitely argee. As long as the Original versions are still available, they can do whatever they like. I still have The Daleks, so I'm quite excited to see a new take on it. New music, bew edit and in colour. Let's see it.

[@dakinsdgamingkillswitch7262]

The only crime with next episode he is going to make is that there is no S+ rank for heaven sent because it is a perfect doctor who episode

[@DigitalVanquish]

Really still not a fan of Hell Bent's conclusion with Clara, but it doesn't take away from Face the Raven itself. Easily one of the best departures, and just a great episode generally. I still kinda wish The Doctor said something to Rigsy before he left though, because he's going to be feeling so guilty about this - even despite The Doctor being so furious. Literally just a sentence would've done: Goodbye; I'm sorry; Honour her; I tried; Don't waste your life; etc. Maybe they share an understanding look with each other... I can't recall.

[@hadinasrallah8928]

ngl i think heaven sent should be inducted into the criterion collection it'S that good

[@Blandy8521]

I think one the interesting things about the doctor taking these risks is that for them it isn't death. It would cause a regeneration so the Doctor is able to take risks that pretty much only other Time Lords can take as they don't need to fear death until their final regeneration

[@elijahstewart3377]

I'm feeling really hyped to see this, because I know what's coming out next.

[@steampunkfox4932]

I can’t wait for you to do Heaven Sent next

[@jessicaable5095]

I wasn't a particular fan of Clara by this point so I remember finding the whole slow motion death far too dramatic. I appreciate her character more now (thanks to you) but I'm still not a big fan of her death scene. I honestly felt more emotion over that scene waaaay back in season 2 where Martha gets stuck in an escape pod and is drifting towards an angry sun, and we see the doctor in the window getting further further away, fruitlessly streaming "I'll save you!" but we can't hear a thing. It's such a sombre and quiet scene. I dunno. Course there's room for all kinds of character deaths in a show like this. I just think that I might've personally cared more about it if they'd treated it more like the escape pod scene. Mind you, I'm not talking about how thematic her death is. I'm very happy that it was down to her own hubris. I'm just thinking about the death itself really. And that is entirely my opinion 😊 maybe I just find quiet more sad than a fanfare

[@eddieryan7246]

Rose had the best send off

[@one_smol_duck]

I'm not generally a big fan of Rose but I agree with you that she has the best send off. Donna's is a close second, but both times the Doctor says goodbye to Rose are the most heartbreaking moments in the entire show.

[@melomateus_m.r]

Tennant nostalgia induced delusion!

[@EmperorJ123]

Two things... Clara either did it to save the Dr via Impossible Girl...or the Doctor was going to do it and regen, and Clara hadn't thought that far...just on the simpler things discussed, or she knew the Dr would take it and die...😊

[@Danger.Noodle]

25:02 Let's be honest, no one was sad when Adric died.

[@isobarkley]

i always felt meh about this episode because i hated the visual effects/sound of the raven killing clara, but damn you give a convincing argument for a rewatch of series 9!!! you picked out all of the love poured into every moment of the script, and even those moments unscripted. thank u harbo for another bangers + mash

[@0th_Law]

It's worth noting that they did actually have a raven on set there.

[@loislane7482]

I agree. I love the final conversation between Coleman and Capaldi but always switch off as soon as she goes outside on a rewatch. The editing on her death feels kind of cheap and gratuitous, especially compared to the lovely scene that proceeds it.

[@bananaplace]

I liked her departure episode so much that I felt cheated when they returned her as an immortal being with no heartbeat

[@thekandyman.]

Heaven sent underrated

[@one_smol_duck]

I actually thought Clara's best exit was in Death in Heaven. Her lying about Danny while the Doctor lies about Gallifrey broke my heart and made me actually care for Clara more than I had since Asylum of the Daleks. Ending that episode with fucking _Santa Claus_ bursting in and telling the Doctor he's not done with Clara was such a giant slap in the face that I couldn't even force myself to care in Face the Raven because I had no faith that she'd be dead for long. Without that baggage (or the fact that I was right) it would have been a beautiful send-off, though.

[@craytherlaygaming2852]

Something I just realized while watching this, is just how perfect the choice of the shade being a Raven is... Ashilda is a Norse Viking from the early days of christianization not too long after Ragnar ransacked Linsbury(don't quote me on that). Meaning she worshiped the norse pantheon which Included Odin... the Raven god, Huggin and Munnin his thought and memory. In a very fitting sense she's basically *become* Odin in her own right, or at the very least started drawing upon her god's own power. And one of the many Domains Odin presided over was death, specifically death in battle so in a way the shade could be considered a Vakyrie who gives you a chance to reach valhalla. And in that vein it makes sense that she can't control it once you transfer your time to someone else, as she's merely borrowing thew power.

[@matteosignor4256]

Oh wow that is such a cool thing that I never thought about!

[@lucypreece7581]

my only nitpick is it feels like Rigsy's girlfriend and daughter came from nowhere because they were never mentioned in Flatline and I know there was a phone call scene that was cut that would have mentioned them or something but like to me sometimes the wrong things get cut

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

I kinda feel like you're getting very picky there, lol. Is it really that unbelievable that he might have a girlfriend or baby and he just never brought it up while he was, you know, running for his life?

[@Ana-rf5cu]

Or maybe there was a time skip of 1 or 2 years? Do they ever mention a specific year?

[@TheOvervoid]

Mayor Me should have gotten Raven'd tbh.

[@chriswagg1354]

Spot on, agree with everything you say here...brilliant critique of a heartbreaking episode

[@DrLilo]

I agree that Clara had the perfect final episode. But it was called Name of the Doctor. Never quite understood why she was just.. back... After that?

[@JeremiahEcks777]

They *had* a perfect ending... ... and undid it by giving her x infinity lifespan, a TARDIS and stupid amounts of Mary Sueism. If her zooming off in a TARDIS didn't exist, Face the Raven would be a contender for THE best companion exit ever as it raises the stakes for others, shows how hubris can take you out, and it is a more realistic identifiable take on what it would be like to mess with things you don't know. That she zoots off just means, the Doctor can do whatever. There's no plot stakes because if someone dies and he *really* doesn't want them to, he can just find a way to pick them out of time just before they die too. Man, he must have really hated Adric. (None of this 'web of time' bull. If he can save Clara, he can save Adric)

[@Chris-bv1bk]

He could've saved Adric in the first place lol He's saved others from identical circumstances by like ""Extending the TARDIS shields" to protect them from exploding ships. He just didn't want to save him, he didn't like him lol

[@Guerreropowerr]

i love her "death", but hell bent completely undid it.

[@theowels5773]

@11:06 thats interesting the number of different categories you've got for stories, do you have any videos where you explain these in detail with specific story examples?

[@Zatrakus]

That Cody Rhodes burn! xD 🖤

[@divinedani78]

Clara Oswald was the BEST Companion since Sarah Jane , yes I said it. She’s probably the best companion ever .

[@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8]

When you bring up Clara telling 12 not to become a Warrior, [Spoilers for Doctor Who stories up to 2012] It just annoys me because the whole reason the War Doctor exists is because Steven Moffat "couldn't imagine the 8th Doctor committing genocide," but here, he implies that the death of his best friend, Clara, might push him to become that person. That really just does a disservice to the 8th Doctor's character, whose most recent stories at the time of the 50th anniversary had Lucie Miller, the 8th Doctor's best friend, heart-breakingly fall to the Daleks in a heroic act of self-sacrifice, and he was very much painted to be willing to do anything to bring her back, regardless of the repercussions. It was 8's Timelord Victorious moment, and we even saw him switching to a leather-jacket & jeans wardrobe to smooth the transition to the inevitable 9th Doctor's fashion sense. In fact, the story immediately following, "Dark Eyes," introduces the new companion Molly O'Sullivan, who had a mysterious past that fascinated the Doctor, and who the Doctor felt an obligation to watch over, despite being at his lowest point. At the time, it felt like Moffat was de-valuing the 8th Doctor's character arc while simultaneously ripping off it's stories.

[@DUBS606]

I always love the American wrestling references lol

[@shaunashton5434]

The Adventures of Clara in Time and Space just never worked for me. Still didn't ruin my Doctor Who like post Capaldi.

[@Daman3tm]

I absolutely hated the concept of the "evil countdown curse raven" though, feels like something out of a fantasy book, not something that belongs in Doctor Who

[@tzarg]

YES! that's what I hate so much about this episode, and the "Janus" which is a creature with one face specifically looking into a person's past, and another for looking into a person's future, like... what the hell?

[@Starrypaws64]

Nu who always leaned more science-fantasy than just hard science-fiction

[@AYoung1368]

Cyborg on Danny the street 😂

[@erubin100]

Wait, people hated Sleep No More MORE than Hell Bent? I always thought it was vice-versa!

[@deadpooldan9862]

Why is Hell Bent so hated? I understand Sleep No More, but Hell Bent? That was a good episode and a perfect continuation of Heaven Sent

[@jennifermcilvenny4630]

I would say Hell Bent is divisive rather than universally hated. It has an 8.6 rating on IMDB. I'd say quite a lot of people like it.

[@glowstoneunknown]

Hell Bent is FAR from a bad episode, it followed up Heaven Sent, which is extremely difficult. But unlike people say, it does NOT undo Clara's death, it's still inevitable what happens here. Hell Bent is probably nobody's all-time favourite episode, but all the Gallifrey stuff is top-tier, and the memory block scene is incredible.

[@pete2097]

Clara has the Chronolock, Chronolock can be pasted. Ashildr can't die, therefore Clara should give the Chronolock to Ashildr... problem solved

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

Thats where you're wrong. The Chronolock can be passed _once._ That was expended when Clara took it.

[@christopherbrown6322]

I liked this story right up until the ending, it felt more like someone setting up their time traveling immortal girlboss spinoff than an actual satisfying or comprehensible ending to the character. Clara should have pulled a Danny and accepted her death. How good a reveal would have been if st the end of the diner scene it was revealed that she had made a deal with the Time Lords? The Doctor's memory of Clara being removed and the return of Clara and the (recently) stolen TARDIS to Galifrey, in exchange for the Doctor not being penalized for his actions. Her final act being to save the Doctor from what she turned him into and what she drove him to do. After spending so long trying to emulate the Doctor and getting burned for it, she instead could follow the path of the man she loves. This is putting aside how in the hell two humans manage to pilot a TARDIS. As much as I loved Capaldi as the Doctor, this ending is what killed my interest in subsequent seasons and soured the experience of re-watching post-Pond Doctor Who.

[@connorhuested]

I never really got the hated for Sleep No More. It wasn’t great, a bit forgettable, but not really worth hating.

[@one_smol_duck]

I liked the part where he said the tape was engineered to make you fall asleep because I was struggling to keep my eyes open by that point. It really was almost hypnotically boring.

[@Starrypaws64]

I loved the cinematography of sleep no more, I don't get the hate

[@cajunking5987]

I don’t remember any of this episode at all

[@cowboybarbaryn1302]

27:57 ?????? That’s the point? If he’s doing that he’s literally doing his job??????

[@mpstab6276]

That was great thank you

[@WizWiteKnight]

Teenage Exocolonist music in the background of this video threw me off a lot.

[@MentalGunzRP]

If Moffat didn't have to bring his freshly dead companions back in the following episode it would've been great, but he did, so it wasnt

[@ryanm3429]

One more to go

[@jennifermcilvenny4630]

I really don't get the hate for Clara. Is it misogyny? Is it because they prefer other companions? I can get disliking a character but I'm talking utter hatred. I just read a comment that said Clara should have really died and irl have a grave so that this person can urinate on it. I mean that's another level of hatred and I just don't get it. I wouldnt have posted this if I hadn't seen that comment but it really annoyed me.

[@thepandorica1660]

I hear a lot of flak of the show becoming something like Clara Who and the Doctor is her companion. This is kinda ignoring the fact that becoming the Doctor's equal in all but species and name was the whole point of her arc.

[@jennifermcilvenny4630]

Yeah, it really makes you wonder about some fans when you read stuff like this.

[@blossom357]

Why in the world is misogyny even on the table? I don't give a shit what gender she is, I hate when writers play death up for drama and then bring them back to life. It's bad enough when it happens once, but Clara died like three times and effectively lives forever because there is no incentive for her to return to the time of her death. It's the most absolute garbage writing I have ever seen.

[@Chris-bv1bk]

I hated her at first and it had nothing to do with anything but her own character traits lol The way she treated the Doctor really rubbed me the wrong way the first few times I watched through. Now I enjoy the way she calls him on his bullshit and stands up to him more. Kill the Moon was terrible, but Clara dressing down the Doctor at the end is a shining gold spot in an otherwise bad episode. "You walk our Earth, Doctor. You breathe our air. You make us your friend and that is your moon too, and you can damned well help us when we need it."

[@miguelvelez7221]

Hard disagree. Like most things in Capaldi's run the elements are all there, it just rarely soars to any heights.

[@Theheadless1858]

I really didn’t like Clara. Her story as the “impossible girl” didn’t make sense to me and her whole I am staying/I am leaving thing I felt ruined a lot of the seasons she was in. Her exit did manage to redeem her, but in all honesty I hope she stays gone.

[@ftumschk]

I for one am glad she stayed. Her chemistry with Capaldi's Doctor was superb.

[@Chris-bv1bk]

I absolutely hated her at first, but I've been going back and rewatching the series again lately, and I'm enjoying her a lot more.

[@xGOKOPx]

The fact that Clara has to return to that moment is meaningless because she doesn't have a deadline. Basically, she has to die *eventually*. So, just like if that story never happened, because she's a human and humans die eventually.

[@deadpooldan9862]

Vice versa, life is meaningless because eventually, everyone dies and no one remembers you

[@lighthouse620]

Perfectly? Imagine if two episodes after Earthshock Adric gets to swan off throughout time and space, there are no consequences in Moffat Who

[@avatarmew]

I miss Clara! I binged series 9 last month and I don't understand the hate for Clara... I know this came out in 2014 and I sound "woke" but I wish the Doctor didn't keep on deadnaming Me.

[@Chrisyork1989]

“Best companion” in the thumbnail gave me a great guttural laugh. Good joke.

[@adelinegrey9476]

Yes a totally platonic relationship, they way the look at each other is totally platonic in the things the would do for each other aswell 🤩🤩

[@undying_artv2]

How did he not reference the order of the phoenixs House when talking about the trap street

[@HarboWholmes]

ew harry potter

[@undying_artv2]

@@HarboWholmes you gotta give credit where it’s due , they 100% took inspiration from that scene

[@lp-xl9ld]

yeah, I saw that and immediately thought of Diagon Alley (and/or Knockturn Alley).

[@nagoranerides3150]

Clara's ending was 3rd-rate fantasy bullshit that had no place in DW. Garbage writing with a magic bloody CGI raven. Awful.

[@MeridaEdhytSanwheyLosd]

Simplemente no lo mires y se acabó tu problema. Tanto berrinche por un episodio

[@Starrypaws64]

10th doctor literally met Satan. Why are yall suddenly complaining about fantasy elements in DW when they always were there.

[@guimbelleaux]

No, no, no, no, no. The Doctor spent billions of lives over billions of years to save one person and he didn't save his wife, River Song. He saved Clara. It was the worst ending for any companion ever. He should have saved his wife.

[@NicoFitz]

He did

[@guimbelleaux]

@@_MyNameIsAJ_ Yes. He should save his wife each and every chance he gets. He should have done all of that to save River Song, not Clara (who tried to kill him by dropping the Tardis keys into lava earlier in the show).

[@guimbelleaux]

@_MyNameIsAJ_ It was not a dream sequence; it was a hologram sequence. She was killing The Doctor as well as herself. He still should have saved his wife, not a young woman who was willing to kill him.

[@ChrissieBear]

Nah, it was a dumb episode.

[@MrPaulmorris7777]

Worst companion, ever. Worse write out, ever. Should have left series ago.

[@breakingthenotion.6045]

I love this episode. I love the story arc of Clara acting so much like a doctor that it get her killed. It’s a s dark and tragic story arc that I expect Russell t Davis to do. It was also fun watching Clara go down a spiral ever since Danny died. I don’t like how Steve moffat tease Clara leaving several time but this was a good one.