HARDER than I thought! - Path of Exile 2 First Impressions

[@Rhizix]

While I'm really happy with the game in general, they reaaaally need to up the droprate of crafting currency... They specifically promised us that "If the players don't feel that they are free to craft during the campaign, we will have failed", well I think they failed...

[@burningpipe2627]

but im crafting in the campaign, and freely too. It just doesnt mean crafting is free, it means the currency shouldnt have a strong sense of economic worth to the extent people feel like they would be better off selling instead,

[@incarnationx903]

​@@burningpipe2627I'm in act 3 and there's hardly any transmutation or regals to craft even with disenchantment no meaningful upgrades at all unless insanely lucky

[@Erzz197]

really? I've been crafting all the time, though I haven't been rushing through

[@shun2702]

@@burningpipe2627 if by freely crafting you mean getting a regal orb every 1-2 hours then yeah, youre right. Otherwise, its pretty fucked.

[@cr6458]

This is one of my only issues with the game. I was expecting to get 6-10 regals and ex per act and I got like 2

[@RJMacReady1]

Whatever is still lacking is tweakable, overall it is, to me, a monumental achievement in game design and something entirely fresh for the arpg genre.

[@kylemenos]

Ya generally what is done is you get less to start and progressively the game opens out giving more over time so don't worry. You can see this trend with the first game just listen to anyone talking about maps and how it almost mirrors ruthless on launch.

[@ikikaera3402]

I agree. I think so far there's no issues I'd call fundamental, but instead all just surface level things. I'm really happy with the game.

[@chidori0117]

I think the general feeling of weak is a mixture of trying to play like POE1 with one skill (combos and triggers are where its at from what I have seen), the low droprate and currency especially act 2 (I feel like act 1 and 3 are noticably different) making characters undergeared and the fact that the gear that DOES drop doesnt get utilized (i.e. no picking up white socketed items for salvaging etc.) For comparison I saw today connor malding hard at the end of act 2 with warrior while Ben was walking though it basically without problems just with slightly different build and playstyle. (cannot judge gear in detail). After getting used to "no more one button playstyle" I really like the fundamentals of the combat and with tweaking some numbers many things can turn out great. Some skills need help though (rolling smash? where is the retargeting from the reveal?)

[@alexbrestowski4131]

@@chidori0117turn off auto targeting in settings

[@thesunryze4658]

​@@alexbrestowski4131how do you do that ? I kept looking for the option (like in PoE1 when u click the skill slot) but i can't find it anywhere

[@altromonte15]

I really dislike that you can't stack uncut gems of the same level. They take space for nothing

[@mateope10]

that's so you buy the gem tab

[@goldenmairon2371]

You could probably make them stackable in the tab​@@mateope10

[@DoctorStrange01]

I mean the entire inventory/stash design in PoE (both of them) is around MTX, they've created problems for you to solve with money. I don't have a problem spending money on stash tabs in a FREE game as it just makes it more or less the price of a b2p game, but i have a problem with lack of simple features like auto-sort button, or in-game filter. Like how hard it is to implement a button to sort your inventory/stash tab ? Not hard i assume ? 10+ years and two games later they still don't have the technology to do that :D

[@sirinwashere]

@@DoctorStrange01 what do you even need to sort in a stash tab?

[@DoctorStrange01]

@@sirinwashere What do you mean what i need to sort ? Everything that goes there so i don't have to play tetris ? What kind of question is that lol. Ever played Grim Dawn or Last Epoch ? The question is rather why should there NOT be such a simple yet very helpful QoL feature that decade old games from devs with much smaller budget have. Same way how D4 has like a few stash tabs in 2024 like it was impossible to make it 10+. Last Epoch was made by a few dudes from reddit and it has crazy good built in loot filter (like Neversink level good), you can have as many stash tabs as you need and there's auto-sort and a lot of other QoL stuff. It even inspired GGG to implement auction house cause it's that good there. But they can't put auto-sort in the game 😅

[@joshuacollins9346]

The gear situation is dire and is really disrupting the experience. If you get lucky with drops, you can be cruising through and wondering what all the complaints are about. If you're unlucky with drops or if you burn currency on crafting and get unlucky, it's a slog. POE 2 was supposed to increase currency drops because we were intended to craft while leveling, that is very much NOT the experience I've had so far. Even gold is a mess. A single rare item in Act 2 costs about half of my total gold.

[@Astrophobia88]

Its in beta mate. I agree with what you're saying, but i imagine al lof these issues will be ironed out come full release

[@itsodysuss5305]

Idk, I just re-farmed the side bosses and got like 10 exalt drops per acts and 3-4 regals, this was enough for me to roll for phys% on a weapon, regal to rare and slam exalts to fill the mods to hit atleast another useful mod. But weird I get more exalt than alchemy or regals.

[@thingsofinterest603]

Not enough crafting mats to make up for lack of drops in agree. However, you just have to be more specific about the gear you get. I couldn't beat act 1 boss so I farmed 2 more levels and bought/socketed gear with cold res and bam bam i was good to go

[@joshfeltham8440]

@@Astrophobia88 its not in beta actually, its early access which is access to the full released game.

[@AnarchyisFreedom]

@@Astrophobia88 This is coping. They've had 10 years of POE1 development to know what constitutes a good drop rate. It's intentional to have the drop rate this low.

[@StupidMaggot1991]

pretty much agree.. the gear is weird. I am lv 27 right now with my witch minion build and the ascension is a brick wall for me. Running around with gear from the first 4-5 hours of gameplay without being able to find or craft something better. My friendsgroup and me agree with each other the droprate of gear/curency feels waaay to low. Also the boss health pool is crazy. I love the fights soo much but fighting for like 5 minutes straight just to get oneshot because you just loose focus at some point feels really bad. Now I don´t know if my build sucks or its intended like that (the gameplay-demos they showed us had long fights, too). Well, doing some testing and farming tomorrow to find out =) But hey, gameplay Awesome, game feels and sounds amazing, I love the voice acting and the skill system!

[@bruh4977]

Well i dont know if you guys look the vendor but every level i look at him and almost every piece i got Come from them. I have get alot of pretty good weapon from them. Good luck to you in ur grind

[@MicroNQTrader]

Same

[@Commandelicious]

100% on the bosses. I just slip after a minute or two and get two bad hits and am dead.

[@c0mplicatec0mplicate30]

Come on man... Just did it with my warrior, same lvl 27. Give it couple more tries and you will get it! Feels amazing and rewarding when you blast that last boss.

[@Peachy-or-not]

I got 1 unique and 8 rares before level 10… not sure what you mean by drop rate is too low.

[@axender269]

They said they improved useful dropped items for leveling. Yet I'm so starved for useful items between act 1 and 2.

[@CCSplinters]

I only feel this in accessories such as rings and amulets but everything else is just fine for me.

[@xorphz]

Yeah I haven't gotten much of anything either. The stuff that I am using either came at the beginning of the game or I got lucky while crafting/gambling. But it feels like you don't get much of anything

[@pinoyxbox]

Tell me about it lol! Whole act 1 i bought my gear from the vendor. Most drops are useless and not for my class.

[@josephgarnett5201]

I feel if you have the knowledge of how to upgrade the fgear from Aug to Regal to exalt and add gem sockets for runes, its not as bad as it seems

[@pinoyxbox]

@@josephgarnett5201 yeah luckily these gems drops are good on mine. Managed to bring 2 gears to yellow. Socketed gears drops a lot for me but not for my class tho lol

[@UncannyMojo]

Why make respec soo expensive ?

[@goldenhate6649]

Its not much better in poe 1 if you actually think about it. We can usually only afford 1 or 2 points per act. We are desensitized due to 1) experience so we don't respec often, and 2) end game where currency is common. During campaign, especially day 1, you are always resource starved. That being said, we get respec points in 1

[@rpemulis]

@@goldenhate6649 you got free respec points per act too. this feels very bad. it wasn't great in poe1 either, something alleviated with adding gold last league. i thought we were going in a better direction but then they took a hard turn off the cliff.

[@prestleyateh7207]

Gotta make choosing points somewhat meaningful. It’s not hard to farm gold if you just focus on it. I think it’s a good trade off.

[@doseNF]

It’s not bad , just actually think about where you want to go on your tree

[@Kol4242564]

I think Ziz was talking about ascendency points respec. With the actual gold I have, I can respec all but one of my skill points so far (level 22).

[@DerLoladin]

What happened to 4-5 exalts in Act 1? I got a single Exalt and that was from the final act boss. Currency drops are way too low right now to really incentivize you to use them on some of the good magic items/exalt slam your rare.

[@KujieSama]

I'm in act 2 and have 7 of them. Already used 3. Rng I guess.

[@RG32822]

@@KujieSama I feel like that's why the game is so polarizing. Those who get drops have a fine time, those who don't are struggling hard to keep their characaters relevant.

[@mtxumi]

7 ex during a1 for me, a2 not as much

[@dosc5222]

Half way through Act 2 and not a single exalt drop, no unique, only rares which I couldn't use. Really fun.

[@gameomaniac4571]

I am halfway in Act 2 and I have 17 exalts and 4 unique drops. RNG at its best

[@PhazerSC]

The game feels a little bit like ruthless mode. I think everything drop scarcity is a bit high and not having alteration orbs feels like an even bigger issue. Let's hope they will address these things.

[@spencers1485]

I like not having alts, it makes bases way more valuable and sought out. We are going to be picking up white items in maps

[@goldenhate6649]

So something I saw was 'cruel mode', IDK if that is the restart thing ziz is talking about, but it does feel like playing elden ring

[@alexbrestowski4131]

@@goldenhate6649it’s basically ng+. Basically going through the same content until you are at level for endgame. On game release you will just have 10 acts and no ng + thing

[@dminusflamingo7168]

thats why is so much fun, u feel like u actually playing.

[@Moonmager]

@@spencers1485 I agree, but it feels terrible when those bases and the currency to craft on them don't drop

[@xlM3RCxl]

Remember when they said people would beat the campaign in around 25 hours? Yeah that isnt happening for me lol.

[@fredericbrasseur7399]

Yeah, people are gonna hit brickwalls because of lackluster drops/crafting. Having strong gear makes boss encounters a crapload easier in PoE 2.

[@Dreamchime]

Currently 15 hours in, halfway through act 2. Been stuck with a blue weapon for the majority of the time, all in all I've found/crafted 4 regals/alchs. Still hardstuck on the colossus boss in act 2, one attempt takes 10+ minutes and one sword attack one shots me.

[@fredericbrasseur7399]

@@Dreamchime Welcome to the club ! :D I'm dealing negative damage against the collosus ! :')

[@jesperjohansson9857]

@@Dreamchime tbh this feels like a soulslike that tries to be an ARPG to hide it. Sure dying to some endgame bosses several times in arpgs is common. Struggling on a Act 2 boss for like 15 deaths? doesnt feel like an arpg.

[@the1sH0]

​@@jesperjohansson9857that Sounds more like shit rng for gear (remeber gear gamble is a thing if you struggle and use all the crafiting items you have... you get more of those dont worry) its not really Balanced atm i also get more suportgems than anything else but so far it was no problem

[@TheMrStaubsauger]

dont even want to check how many deaths i've got. probably 50+ my lightning monk is really struggeling against bosses

[@StormhattGG]

Yeah, like glass

[@j2theosh6969]

Same man

[@dominicellis2280]

Big time dude, relying purely on flasks for regen feels bad

[@InsomniacAgony]

Destroying bosses with lightning monk The worst thing so far is dreadnaught

[@jeromedevine384]

yeah I’m lightning monk too man but I’ve just made sure all the support gems I use are on the most suited skills, PLUS, ICE IS YOUR FRIEND!

[@TeamPiz]

I love the movement. So good using wasd. The hardest thing i've found is the lack of gear and currency. I like the slower pace and difficulty but it's such a slog with only one rare dropping for the whole of act1. Ive had more uniques than rares which were useless for my build anyway.

[@Erzz197]

I had no uniques in act 1, but like 20 rares. It took me like 4 hours to get through act 1, including time spent staring at the tree thinking about where to go. rare chests, rare monsters (my main complaint is it's really hard to visually tell when a monster is rare), and the random side bosses dropped them a lot for me.

[@Mathilde_Moksha_333]

Woah :O only 1 rare in all of act 1? Either they patched it in the first 24 hours (didn't play the day of launch), or I am insanely lucly bceause 3.5 hours in, My gears is almost full yellow and I have one unique to top it off :O

[@goldenhate6649]

@@Mathilde_Moksha_333 I've gotten fuck all in 2 days. I keep getting rare crossbows (which I don't use) and very little relevant rares or rares on bases so low they aren't worth using. There is so little loot dropping I haven't even turned on a filter.

[@legiterategaming1868]

@@goldenhate6649 are you disenchanting them? Also check the vendor they sell rares sometimes! I got a crossbow upgrade from that

[@TeamPiz]

@@goldenhate6649 I thought i had a filter on so made sure it was off and had 'highlight everything' turned on thinking i was missing out. Yeah it wasn't that 😂

[@Jsharpeone]

Feels super bad to be endlessly kiting white mobs trying to mash dodge while they corner you. Feels like I'm not getting the tactical feel of combat (aside from a boss fight) in the maps because I'm always running away trying not to get stunlocked. They 100% failed on the drop chance of crafting items. If they can bump up movement speed, nerf white mobs a bit, and add a bit of phasing to dodge, that will go a long way.

[@Hunter-u7q]

Overall the problem is that most skills do not deal enough damage to deal with fodder. The monsters are designed the same way as in PoE1 but without those things that made said design forgivable. You can't phase, blink or even dodge through enemies, and most classes don't have enough damage to oneshot white mobs, so yeah. Another problem imo is that maps are way too big for the incredibly low movement speed you're given, considering quicksilver flasks are not a thing anymore. All maps are bigger and more labyrithic than PoE1s, yet you move slower and have to take 5 times as much time killing fodder than you would in PoE1, resulting in a painfully long leveling process. I'm really enjoying the game, but i'm pretty sure I don't want to level a second character in these conditions. I'm only enjoying it because it's my first ride and i'm willing to take my time testing stuff and discovering stuff, but I'm not willing to create a new character due to how artificially long the campaign is. I was expecting a slightly slower campaign than PoE1 with extremely more difficult and interesting bosses, but what we got is that bosses are actually easier sometimes than the maps themselves

[@grraul2871]

@@Hunter-u7q yea it`s kind of a big let down also - I was in act 2 when you are near the end of the act, in the pace where a big bug roams and you have checkpointa and 50 small bugs spawn if you move a bit further - damn I died so many times cuz I couldn`t deal enough dmg to kill one quickly so I can spam kill them with corpse explosion. Bruh no blink / dashing is just brutal - dodging is good vs bosses but horrible cuz you can get stuck so easily vs mobs and especially in act2 cuz everything rushes you in close quarters like there`s no tomorrow

[@broken07x]

If you're struggling with white mobs this is definitely a skill issue lmao

[@Touchin-Grass]

​@@broken07xThey are arguably tougher than bosses lol

[@jokerwick]

You need more DPS, but @Hunter-u7q is also right.

[@DrewBreckner]

I have very few complaints so far, it’s great. The one thing I might do is give melee characters a guaranteed good weapon early in the game, maybe from clearing the worm boss or something. The first few levels are night and day when you have a decent weapon as a melee character.

[@taylon5200]

100%! Everything feels great aside from what you said. Otherwise im fucking ADORING this game 👏

[@chaddrusso8850]

Agreed I got a unique two handed hammer from the worm and it’s has made melee a blast! It creates aftershocks after every shock wave my character makes. I think without it I’d be getting my cheeks clapped but no boss has taken me more than 1-2 tries and I’m at act 2.

[@johnnyc2975]

Yeah as soon as I got the +3 melee and attack speed quarterstaff it carried me all the way to end of act 3 where I got kinda walled at ultimatum for a while. Turns out just having a little pick me up as melee goes a long way.

[@goldenhate6649]

@@johnnyc2975 What worries me is we are getting brickwalled in the campaign when this game is supposed to have an endgame map system, people not being able to clear the ascendencies (especially experienced players) doesn't bode well for getting in new players

[@DrewBreckner]

@@goldenhate6649 I’m sure there will be tons of balance changes big and small over the months to come. But I’m also not sure that just being difficult or complex means you have a small audience these days.

[@NousagiBrat]

Loving it so far. Yeah my main issue is the currency drop. Im fine with gears, but I feel like it will be more fun if i was not forced to save currency because it is scarce and actually get to use it.

[@doseNF]

Wym I’m dropping a bunch of currency and have been using to craft when I need an upgrade

[@brilobox2]

@@doseNFmost ppl aren’t, there NEEDS to be more.

[@MikeyJ28]

We don’t really have a trade economy or a league mechanic. Both of those things are crucial to making your builds.

[@Lessonius]

@@doseNF Maybe you are, but I literally went the entire Act 2 without a single Regal. I went over 10 levels with 0 ability to upgrade my gear. Then the act boss dropped one and I got a trash mod + 2 more trash mods from a double exalt. Regals should be much more common early. I got like 4-5 in act 1, 0 in act 2 - That's ridiculous.

[@jimjogger306]

They must add phasing on dodging, Rathbreaker at the start of act 2 with the hyenas, They literally surround you, They are much quicker than you and if you stop for a second to use a ability they completely surround you and you cant move, Thats just one example.

[@sebp4379]

hell yeah. i aged like 10 years on that boss. some enemies are just too fast for how slow your character is. they surround you and you are unable to do anything.

[@justachad6494]

Phasing on dodge would be fucking amazing lol. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve got stuck in a narrow hallway (they’re everywhere) and got gangbanged. Also, elemental damage needs to be toned down. Or make it easier for us to get elemental resist.

[@daddyfixx9232]

Herald of Ice. No Problem as Monk. But no AoE and this fight is a nightmare. I swapped HoI with the Ghost Shroud Buff in Bosses with no ads. I love it. Pls let us learn a new game. Everything is solved so fast these days.

[@jimjogger306]

@@daddyfixx9232 What you dont seem to understand is we are testing the game, This is pre release, They dont know the problems until we tell them, Its not about 'working it out', There are problems with it which they need us to siv through so they can fix, And this is just one of those problems, This is not a puzzle we have to solve, We have been given the test version of that puzzle.

[@manicxs]

you dont need to agro them ltp

[@onkek]

Currently really enjoying how the current aesthetic of the game and hubs isn’t ruined by shitty MTX particle effects everywhere. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[@da-ker]

One of the biggest fears I have is, that I don't see me playing this campaign multiple times. One time, great. Multiple times in leagues? No way. I play leagues for the mechanic and endgame. I don't want 50h for the campaign. So I hope there will be some better ways to do this in the future.

[@VicJang]

Same. But I’m somehow quite confident they’ll have a solution ready by launch. It’s not like this is GGG’s first game. They definitely know this problem

[@danwright9181]

100%. That was the fear I had too. I usually make 9-10 characters per league to test all my ideas out, and at 25 hours through the acts, that will be prohibitive.

[@WeCrackAllGames]

My criticism with the game: 1. Dodge roll should atleast push away enemies, getting stuck is so frustrating. 2. Give me more crafting materials 3. Give me more rares so i can constantly upgrade my equipment 4. Some classes need a slight buff in my opinion, early game can be pretty rough. 5. Attacks that make you go through the air to slam enemies from above should have some invincible frames, it pisses me off that i receive damage if i'm above the enemy 6. I want more support gems, had the problem that i switched skills alot and then i couldnt place supports in them because they drop kinda rarely. I really enjoy the game, these are just some minor things that bother me.

[@undevelopedcell3800]

ngl Trial of Sekhemas is genuinely the worst thing ever. I get it's meant to be hard but, it feels like you need REALLY GOOD rng just to not get really shitty ritual rooms, having to spend like 10 minutes killing the skeleton dudes while you're getting hounded by snakes is pretty off putting. They need to dial that shit DOWN

[@MydrecaNaPopa]

just overlevel by like 5 levels and its super easy

[@plyrni3]

I got it first try at level 27 or 30. I don't remember exactly You may lack single target, idk

[@GravityTrash.]

Was just trying to do that but it was a wave game of 256 to 978 ping as soon I got in for some reason 💀💀 Gonna have to wait until server get more stable sadly

[@guddefulgaming]

I found the actual rooms pretty easy, but the Boss doesnt seem to be designed with honour in mind... i dont know how to do it other than oneshotting the guy (not literally obiously)

[@laconsuela69]

Yeah i got really good rng on my last one and beat it. Was so tedious though

[@aaronjoshuabeglau9429]

The only thing that bothers me is not being able to phase through my team mates. The way some maps are designed you are destined to block each other over and over in doors etc and then die as a result. I can look over crashes and infinite loading screens or scarce loot, but the phasing thing, man

[@goldenhate6649]

The visual crashes are what get me. I have the most standard ass setup of a computer (intel/nvidia) and I am getting crashes due to VISUAL bugs almost once an hour. How did they not catch those in testing? Did they even play the damn game?

[@beasley_unborn6729]

Idk man imo 3 things would make this game pretty damn good: 1: more currency 2: more rare drops 3: phasing through trash mobs I feel like they nailed a lot of everything else. The vibe of the game feels amazing. The bosses are fun looking and do cool shit. The builds are looking really nice. I like the skill tree. But I do think the 3 things will make or break the game. Like the other commenter said, they promised us we would be able to craft. I'm fairly casual in PoE compared to many and I can totally see myself and other complete newbs brick builds early because they cant craft into something better. I'm not even sure why its such a big deal for them to just give us 1 and 2, it literally does no one any harm. And if we cant do 3 then at least give us more s or something like dark souls or elden ring. Edit: And look I get people don't want to compeltely phase through mobs and want the game to be a souls like. But even Souls-Like have Iframes at the very least. Also Souls-Likes do NOT have 50 spiders/wolves/hyenas/bugs spawn in a circle around you and charge you. I'm not even saying to Phase through every mob. Its not even realistic not being able to roll over bugs lol. Also if you've made it to end game and are already mapping good for you. There is literally no need to gatekeep. We need to be able to get more regal orbs plain and simple. GGG themselves have said they wanted us to be able to craft IN THE CAMPAIGN. I'm not saying give everyone alchemy orbs all willy nilly. Just saying the first 3 currencies that let you play around with magic mods and get you into rares should be a bit more accessible. And at the end of the day I'm not even talking about myself. PoE 2 was made to attract NEW players. I know for a fact I'll make it through, get to maps and make it deep into the end game. I actually really like the game. I've played enough PoE and I've played souls like. I beat Prime Consort Radahn and Fatalis. I'm all for the game get ridiculously tough in end game. Just saying if they want to retain the massive audience they've garnered for the games launch they should tune the campaign better. Edit: Wellp, with more and more people finally reaching maps and ACTUAL FOOTAGE OF MAPS OUT I think it's safe to say that #1 has become critical. This game is an arpg and you can have a your talkative tri opinion but at the end of the day unless this game is your job (and clearly not even considering zizs impression) this game is simply not worth it in the current state. I'm sure they will fix it unless they want to loose players but gearing is abysmal. Crafting does not equal gambling by farming for 4 hours for 2 exalts and 1 regal in the hopes of making half of a good piece of gear (2 exalts and 1 regal don't even get you one full decent gear piec) only for it to most likely end up mediocre and more often then not brick the item. Please stop. Give us loot back, it's an arpg.

[@taylon5200]

This cant be your take if youre still not at endgame. Poe1 has issues too in the early game before you can funnel through your stash. Get one character to endgame. Youll have all the gold and currency you need for your next character to level the campaign SO much easier.

[@TeckTheBlooded]

​​@@taylon5200Thats exactly the problem. All the new players they wanted to gain, and non-elite players like myself (Have a handful of endgame chars, but only like 20% of my attempts) aren't going to play the game that long with these early struggles. PoE1 feels almost more welcoming, even considering the slotting hurdle in part 2 of campaign.

[@beasley_unborn6729]

​@@taylon5200 Hi Mr. 1%, Not sure why you would bring up End game when GGG themselves have said they wanted to make it to where you can craft in the campaign.

[@destroyermaker]

If you get more currency you won't feel the need to phase

[@auranos9504]

Getting pushed into a corner by 30 bugs that spawn and put me in a corner to take my virginity and my first HC character felt so bad. They absolutely need to fix mob and player physical interaction it is absolute dog shit. Outside of that I'm having a blast.

[@marcosdheleno]

i remember telling people that POE2 would be basically ruthless+. and then being bashed with loads of players saying i was wrong, just watched a player go through multiple hours of gameplay before his first yellow item dropped.

[@ProxCyde]

Yeah, I barely got any until mid-act 2. And even then it's shockingly rare to me. Same with gambling and currencies. And I disenchant all rares.

[@cHr22o7]

I saw all the subs comming in, congratz dude! What you descripe in regards to gear and bosses is pretty much the same for me. I play a frost sorc and have a "functional" freeze/ES build. Some content is faceroll and other bosses are such a pain^^

[@MandoMTL]

Had two very different experiences playing a merc and a sorc. CC is king.

[@Sophie2570]

Which did you find more fun?

[@TheMCmace]

@@Sophie2570sorc is way more fun

[@rebeltheharem7028]

Cross bow requires so much effort to aoe, meanwhile sorc and aoe for days.

[@superking___]

​@@rebeltheharem7028sorc lighting feels kinda terrible. What are you doing that is working?

[@emmas1366]

yeah I'm v curious too ​@@superking___

[@dethdelr9574]

@Zizaran Would you make a video of the count boss fight? The Arena wide AOE is destroying me as a melee Thanks

[@briane75]

No drops. Sure, it's RNG, so I'm certain I'll hear from that guy that got 12 uniques by act 2 or something, but upgrades are few and far between No crafting drops. Aside from augment and transmute orbs, everything else feels pretty rare. No way to distinquish magic/rare mobs unless they have an aura. No combat log or recap, it's difficult to determine what is causing deaths. Seems to be some balance issues between skills. IF they are really trying to make PoE appeal to a wider audience, it's probably overtuned If they fix these things during early access, that would be great

[@SymphonyEternally]

I got 3 uniques from my first kill of the A1 boss. Besides that, its been non stop starvation.

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

Turn on enemy health bars in the settings. Idk why it is off by default

[@briane75]

@@TheModdedwarfare3 Thanks, this was a great tip! I'd be nice though if they changed the healthbar color or put a border around magic/rare, you still don't see them till you hover over them looks like.

[@guitargaia]

Oh shit! Congrats on the subs dude!

[@korsakov319]

Pro tip you can identify items for free with "the hooded one"

[@reregfys7169]

wow so pro 😂

[@LOjha876w6HUiBajhajsjxh]

Ah nice i though it was only an easy one click button instead of clicking 6 items

[@inquisitorkurt5379]

I didnt realize i would have signed up for a kiting minon dodge roll simulator!!! it took me 11 hours of play to find a usable unique.. and the best item i have found is an Bow for an Archer. :(

[@casediedwell5094]

I'm so beat up, Fam. The boss fights are great; diverse enough and voiced and all that.. but Lort Baby Jebus these fights are crazy. Playing Sorc feels so weird so far (Mid-Act2-ish?) because the Skills don't seem to 'flow' in any real way. Sometimes I melt whole rooms, sometimes I die again and again to a mid-sized pack. And outside of bosses, the thing I've died the MOST to is getting surrounded by trash mobs, can't move and melt. Other Sorcs; y'all going full ES or mixing ES/Armor or ES/Evade?

[@TheMCmace]

I‘m mixing nothing because loot isn‘t dropping

[@themasterofw4295]

Its fun when you get swarmed aint it - Witch Chaos Dot ( it gets better if you take demon form it can escape swarms as monsters dont block it) O wait your a sorc my bad wasnt meant to be mean. grab a wep swap movement skill I here they are good.

[@SymphonyEternally]

Full ES and specifically regen rate on the tree. But man we are definitely STARVED for good loot lol.

[@drewzerTV]

The only way I could finally beat the act 1 boss was respecing hard into ES. Lots of frustration....

[@Carlthuulu]

I’m mana stacking and going mind over matter using perma arcane surge as well Seems to be the most viable defense layer atm as there are much more mana/mana regen nodes on tree than even es or the virtually nonexistent life nodes on tree

[@harijaja]

Ziz! how you feel now about the pause being "Too overpowered"?

[@AtlasGcx]

so ruthless is POE2 after all

[@ADVGuiltyParty]

ruthless had better drops

[@Kanoly]

@@ADVGuiltyParty No it did not.

[@LVHAXOR316]

Tell me you're bad without telling me you're bad

[@ismailtemur1]

@@LVHAXOR316 I am bad and want to play an arpg i hope it makes you feel better and boost your ego

[@LVHAXOR316]

@@ismailtemur1 then play stop being a cringey cry baby real arpgs make you work for things

[@barrynieallen2458]

Ziz gotta a question.. as a mercenary can i use bow and skills for bow?

[@DustinHarms]

Love the PSA about premature feedback.....yeah, we can't really be pushing strong opinions 2 days into EA. Let's give it a week or two, get a real feel for the game, then give our reasoned feedback. No need to jump on gut feelings when we don't even have a baseline yet.

[@Overblazer]

Does set 1 and set 2 stats of weapon always affect you or only when actually in use?

[@ronove2597]

I don't know, the game definitely has great potential, but personally, at least for now, I find it too difficult. A game should entertain people, but instead, many-including myself-are just getting stressed. The bosses kill you too easily, the trial has an honor system that, in my opinion, is really stressful. In short, I'm not having much fun, and this doesn't feel like Path of Exile to me; it feels like Dark Souls dressed up as PoE.

[@TheSeth256]

"Oh no, I cannot faceroll enemies with meta builds day1!"

[@IcoNexcalib3R]

@@TheSeth256 lol its basically this. These kids are too use to d4 and Poe and face rolling. ARPGs use to be actual hard and you had to work for things. There is some good feedback and things they need to change, but 80% of it is full echo chamber of Poe 1 kids not being able to face roll or getting 50,000 drops for a set a mobs.... "This isn't Poe!" Its not supposed to be like poe 1, otherwise what is the point of making a second game!

[@joshuajohnson714]

Congrats on the subs

[@evrypixelcounts]

I made the mistake of going defense over damage, and turns out you get one-shot pretty easy even with good defenses.

[@getoutofmylobby4347]

I just rerolled as a sorc with everything i possibly can put into damage only, even got a 2+ lightning staff with % spell damage and cast speed , there is still no damage...

[@christianhudspeth9018]

@@getoutofmylobby4347ya this is gonna be another one of those you never get overpowered Arpgs eh uh is the exact opposite of the spirit of d2. It’s gonna be a game I play some and they’ve done a good job with a lot. But I just prefer more loot focus in my Arpgs

[@TeckTheBlooded]

​@@getoutofmylobby4347I made a sorc as my 4th char just trying out the classes, and gambled a rare Ice shard staff right at the beginning with %dmg, %cold dmg, life, +2 Cold gems, and %Mana, still struggling with damage after getting 2 more gear pieces to rare with 4~ stats. I dont get how people are breezing through it

[@getoutofmylobby4347]

@@TeckTheBlooded Its wierd. I am really sad about it but me personally...I dont have fun, killing monsters does not feel good, at all. Why do they make us feel in Act 1 as if we would be in PoE Act 10 trying to kill monstern with level 1 spark. I dont really understand the philosophy behind that.

[@drewzerTV]

@@getoutofmylobby4347 exactly! Make the game get gradually harder, sure, but why make act1 feel so punishing and bad?

[@williamgroeneveld5125]

Just to add to the gear issues… I feel like if the respec cost wasn’t so high then you could gamble more and if currency drops were more plentiful then you could disenchant more. So I’m never selling gear unless I happen to have space for a non salvageable white item for 5 gold. But I’m level 25 with 1 raw regal drop and I think I got enough rares for 2 regals. So while I like the difficulty I just feel like the difficulty is coming from not have drops instead of my skill. Probably still a skill issue. And as we replay with more currency I’m sure it will work itself out a little but right now feels bad. Adding in regards to skills since me the player is no longer progressing my skills by experience and now it’s drops. The feeling of progression is almost nonexistent since I’m relying solely on drops.

[@qdlaty23]

I was so excited for the game but the more I play it the more unfun it is. GGG confused hard with tedious and decided to make ruthless the default mode. And they literally took away the one thing that we play the game for: loot. Great job GGG, I never thought I would say that but I'm going back to diablo.

[@YM-ex8hh]

Is power lvl/carry a thing in poe2? Alkaizer vid says slam build got nerfed already...i could be misinterpreted

[@CoinFlipAhri]

Game is in a much better state than i expected it to be. Some level of phasing on roll would be nice tho, so big packs don't pin you into a wall in tight spaces, but definitely gonna be an enjoyable beta test for the next 6+ months or whatever they said.

[@andybanan1992]

There are plenty of mobility skills that can get you out of pins, personally i just went with quarterstaff as a secondary weapon with the frost leap for most of my characters, as it moves you over a lot of wnemies, and it put down a chilling ground, ans it can potentially freeze weaker enemies. Concidering its a lv1 skill, not picking it up and then complaining about being pinned is a bit your own fault then.

[@BackFromPurgatory]

Legit like 90% of my deaths have been from getting pinned to a wall or stuck in a narrow corridor of some kind. I actually had an easier time killing the Act 2 boss than I did getting to him because of all the narrow bridges and enemies that like to jump behind you to box you in. Died probably 10ish times getting to him, killed the actual boss on attempt 2.

[@MrGinga85]

​@@andybanan1992 didn't know that was a thing. I know what I'll be doing tomorrow. I was under the impression they got rid of most mobility skills in favor of the roll

[@andybanan1992]

@@MrGinga85 the neat part is that it automatically switches Between the peimary and secondary weapon sets when you use the skill, so you never really have to think about changing back and forth manually, unless you are a caster ofc. Then you have to change back adter using the skill, but thats 1 extra button press.

[@matrix255]

@@andybanan1992 I'm currently 33 with my ranger and I have died plenty of times from mobs that swarm me in like a second I have try so many times to use Escape Shot to get out the gang bang but jumping doesn't work, you can't jump over them.

[@3DWarzone]

you are the reason i start playing, when i firts discover you i was a teenager and cound't contribute to the channel, now as a grown up it was a really dream come true moment

[@rhettorical]

I think we've had our opinions of what "early access" means warped so badly that we all went in with pretty bad expectations. This actually feels to me like what EA should be. It's a solid base, but horrendously imbalanced with improvements needed all over the place. But I'm hopeful, because nothing here feels fundamentally broken or completely irreparable.

[@Vinny2fingers]

Definitely have to farm and level up before going to the next quest. I noticed going through the area's first I didn't get any good items but replaying the hardest area before a boss a couple of times I always ended up getting rare upgrades. And more crafting materials.

[@doakesanddrax]

Yeah currency is still a little to rare for gearing. And my mine gripe for early bosses is to many adds. Im already fighting fir my life, i didn't need to get jumped by 20 adds

[@Geostalker]

plz explain how we are practically running the same build and are the same level and ytou hvae 10x the damage I do?

[@TrepTheSnake]

I appreciate the nuance of your initiation impressions. Too many people are jumping in panic, drawing conclusions and demanding GGG to change the game fundamentally. It's day 2, we don't know shit, we suck. Let's be patient and learn about the game before pretending we know better than GGG.

[@hannoythefirst]

I can clearly see that they want us to play slow af and made everything for it to be that way. It feels like souls game and not like arpg.

[@fernandomendes7451]

​@@hannoythefirst wanting to play slow while most bosses summon packs of very agressive ads sound like an issue imo (or mob density in general early game)

[@grimkiller696]

@@hannoythefirst they want us to play slow but boss and mobs are not slow XD

[@lmSnarkk]

@@fernandomendes7451 your reading comprehension is a skill issue

[@xorphz]

Where do you get the other 30 points to have 60 spirit @zizaran? Please let us know if you remember

[@trolleurdurden5534]

It's a quest reward for an optional boss.

[@johnmccarthy2519]

I f I wanted to play Dark Souls I'd play dark souls....I'm bouncing off of this tbh. White mobs are the equivalent of blues now, its so slow and tediouus

[@sportschool3537]

THANK YOU!!! This game is horrible... it's tedious every second of it and it's never ever fun... PoE1 has tons of flaws but at least you feel good playing it and chilling... Honest to god I might play Last Epoch tomorrow or PoE1... until they fix this dogshit of a mess they made I'm not touching it and the real PoE fanbase should do the same... they need to hear the message loud and clear... we're not supporting GGG if they want to buttfuck us just to please streamers and sweatlords...

[@HRRRRRDRRRRR]

"I can't build, and I'm viewing this as a full release of a game. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE" There you go, saved you a few words and made your meaning a little more obvious.

[@Thar-y9w]

I guess some don't read while having presumptions. POE1 == Mindless spamming buttons walking sim The stupidity in such bold statement.

[@sportschool3537]

@@Thar-y9w Well, that mindless spamming walking sim has 280k concurrent players after 11 years of existence!!! Let's see how many DAYS before PoE 2 goes under that number... I am better next weekend PoE2 will have half of that number... But the "git gud" army and the no-life streamers will be happy I guess so hooray... because somehow gaming is only for them these days... I mean who wants difficulty levels and accessibility without being forced into tedious time-wasting nonsense? Oh wait... 90% of the gamers out there want that? 😱😱😱

[@Thar-y9w]

@@sportschool3537 I am 100% sure it will flop upon league releases if no tweaks ahead. People are same brainless to say poe 1 is mindless. Let me say a joke: Making own pob with calculations and spreadsheet is mindless.

[@jwsaf8818]

Will there be a demo or will there be a trial for early access verison?

[@CS-cg6gg]

You clearly dont know what early access is.

[@cadeb11]

It’s hard to a fault. Difficulty is good but this sort of difficulty is more exhausting than fun. I don’t want to play dark souls I want to play poe

[@Xaltotun]

Playing a warrior is brutal as hell. But I heard that getting lots of armor should help a lot on bosses.

[@JordaanM]

I had a miserable time with warrior. Then I spent all (literally all) of my currency at ~level 40 on building a 2H weapon, got really lucky and made one strong enough to make the game playable. It's been 15 levels now, the damage is falling off, and I don't have the currency to craft another weapon. oof.

[@SteveAkaDarktimes]

considering its Day 1. its pretty good. can you imagine how great the game will be in 1 month? Literally nobody knows how to build optimized characters yet. and gear drops are kind of low.

[@martinzyka6432]

what do you want to optimize? you dont get anything to optimize with

[@IcoNexcalib3R]

@@martinzyka6432 *yet* you kids need to relax. They will make adjustments.

[@ninsanity8184]

Game of the year for me. Blasted through act 1 with a merc, only the act boss was tough. Hope they don’t make it easier. Yes, amazing gear is rare , but I am loving being forced to craft. Could do with a few more crafting orbs though, but obviously drop rates will be better in end game. Don’t forget to disenchant!

[@Ruujo]

It’s definitely over tuned. I think if they keep everything the same and either 1 they give you better drops throughout gameplay would help or extra xp buff that 15-20%. And maybe drop trash mobs health by like 10-15%. That would go a long way.

[@theonemvp_1]

They don't need to need anything

[@IRatchetI]

@@theonemvp_1 They absolutely do. The one major complaint I've seen repeated is that the game is to hard and I agree. If they want to retain players in the long-term, they NEED to make the game easier.

[@Wloczykijbezkij]

@@IRatchetI i mean if ppl get stuck on act 1 bosses for 2h like the draven or cementary dude they just suck and maybe shouldnt even play that kind of games if they find it too hard, not every game is for everyone, some of us like the challenge but those bosses arent that hard at the beginning, you just need to have hands

[@ereder1476]

No, that would make building tanky have no drawback and building damage becoming like poe1

[@beasley_unborn6729]

@@Wloczykijbezkij do they not have hands? 🤣🤣🤣

[@LordShrub]

How to get more than 2 support gem slots on a skill gem?

[@scaw-j]

Your 3 critiques are basically bang on with my feelings. Overall I love the game and I think just a few tweaks will make it feel really really good.

[@laxxboy20]

Wait, does Ziz really not have the Gem stash tab or?

[@Adizzle235]

Trials of chaos is pissing me off.

[@rodrigoserafim8834]

I am getting absolutely owned in the first act final boss. Most of my problems stem from low fps rates that either rubberband me just enough to get hit, or by random double projectiles that "one" shot me. It wouldn't be too bad, but in a 5 minute HP pool, high action, boss fight in a tiny arena you are bound to mess up once and you die. I'm ok with it, but hopefully GGG can work a bit on these non-skill elements of fights. My main complain is that the character control feels a bit sluggish and laggy, but then again, I am still used to the POE1 mega-juiced high mobility builds.

[@getoutofmylobby4347]

The game feels like a ruthless PoE 0.5. If i would want to go back to farming Dominus for hours i wouldve asked for PoE classic not PoE 2. I dont understand the mindset of making the game like this. PoE was/is slowly growing because it kept and kept improving and is hitting new peaks every other season and this game feels like a huge step down to me. I dont want to play D2 in 2024. I am so sad. Normally i would be in maps by now, i have maybe played 45 minutes today. Not even killing white mobs feels fun. If i want to torture myself i go outside or play BO6 wagers...

[@marcosdheleno]

what is there not to get? GGG said time and again that THIS was the vision they had. they wanted POE1 to be like this, but when they tried to push for it, there was alot of backlash. so they did the smart thing, put it on a new game, so people cant complain. everybody knew ruthless was just them testing the waters for poe2. i mean, everyone that wasnt blinded by the "shinny graphix" that is.

[@kev23dk]

Does +ranked to skills in the offhand apply to main hand? Some one plsss❤❤❤

[@TheJregis]

I see potential but: Feels way too much like Ruthless. Currency drops are very low. Gear drops feel like Ruthless-lite. Character screen poorly designed. Aura activation hard to find. Questing objectives too obtuse. Skills feel terribly slow. Why make us waste points on skill speed, just design better. Skill point tree pathways are WTF, why??? Load screens are oddly long. Why design player “mobbing” from enemies. Enemy unit collision is out of control. This mechanic is literally the unfun button. The entire game is nothing but run away and kite. It feels worse than any other game I’ve ever played due to this one issue. If I wanted to play Ruthless then I would be playing Poe1 right now. I enjoy playing difficult games, but the extreme over tuning needs to be pulled back .

[@marcosdheleno]

it doesnt feel like ruthless. ruthless was a testbed for poe2. this was always the intention from GGG. ALOT of people pointed that out, but the fanboys kept saying that it wouldnt be. this is the result. dont expect it to change. with pretty much every streamer praising the game as the best experience ever crafted by mankind, if they are to change, is only to make it even less rewarding.

[@mikesmith-zh3go]

This... their grand amazing combat they been working on for 5 years = slowly back peddling and shooting

[@ajthedemon40]

Currently at the end of act 2, Using a frost bomb stormweaver sorc. Maximized chill and frozen and pretty much permanently CC enemies. My damage is pretty lacking and if I get hit well... there is a reason I have to CC lol.

[@angrybeavers9656]

I'm fully disappointed. 26lvl Witch Minion build. - drop doesn't exist. I'm running in blue items, while rare I try to break. - currency is not enough even for craft magic items (but I gathering every blue+ items) - progress the slowest in the world (my children will finish school quickly, than I reach the maps) - the skill tree doesn't have an effect at all (all defense skills on minions don't allow them to live more than 2 seconds, I don't speak about survivability of character) - why dodge doesn't allow you to jump through monsters, IDK. Every time you are stacked in mobs or textures - support gem's accessibility is bad (you have access to use less support gems, where are T4, T6 gems? Why were they skipped?) - boss fight 1 hour!!! Fight with the blue or rare monster packs is PvP. I thought that Ruthless mode showed that only 2 and a half men would play in this.

[@andybanan1992]

Im at the same lvl, and here is my tip, dont play around minions quite yet. Pick up essence drain, contagion and enfeeble. None of these require passive tree investments to absolutely blast campaign. Essence drain wants dmg+duration supports, contagion wants better AOE. And enfeeble wanta specifically 2 supports, doom blast, and chaos dmg over time. Since you can make your curses deal dmg over time this will naturally spread alongside essence drain due to contagion, and the doom blast hits aoe everytime something dies, giving even more clear. And you get a lot of dmg reduction from enfeeble, making you more tanky.. Then you want your summon ragin spirits to be linked up with firewall,so each cast of firewall summons 5 skulls. And you should pick up detonate corpse as soon as possible, as it has a HUGE aoe dmg. And then just whatever spirit summon you like. Currently breezing through act 2 without worry, and havent died on a boss simce early act 1. Since on bosses you just mainly use essence drain, firewall to spawn skulls. You have a lot of free time to focus on avoiding boss mechanics.

[@narbwow8168]

Agreed. I stopped playing. Simply wasn't having fun. Everything was too tedious, punishing, and grindy.

[@NONAME-ey6qs]

Pretty much the same experience, also picked warrior for my first playthrough. Decided to go with stun buildup + armor break/perfect strike. Armor break on totem looks awesome, probably will do the same. Was kinda feeling bad my gear is so garbage, but as i see its a problem for everyone. Compain feels tedious to be honest, but otherwise the game is pretty awesome.

[@peterj.2114]

I feel like PoE2 is a pacing disaster. I had a decent time early on but act 3 it's just not fun whatsoever. No character progression, the game is super punishing from every angle. The graphics are cool but thats just not enough I'm sorry.

[@kingkahuka921]

Those flasks regenerate is also something I should start looking for that might make my boss experience allot better I have transmutes for days.

[@Robot-Overlord]

I know fanboys have a hard time being critical and taking criticism. Huge problems - Gamebreaking bugs like characters vanishing, bosses getting stuck in their invincible phase, certain early builds having no power at all and youre forced to reroll. Minor problems - small bugs and glitches like doors not working, mechanics that are doa like flipping boulders and rocks for stuff, and lack of the very sparse quality of life that poe1 had. Non-issue issues- complaints from poe newbies, "coming soon" content, people not researching or looking up problems only theyre having due to their own fault, people somehow forgetting that poe1 leveling wasn't exactly easy either but they would lean on metaknowledge. Overall I think all of this is rectifiable since it is EA. A few of the issues I had on launch was having spent enough to play poe2 on launch without purchasing an EA pack but I couldn't download on steam because I didn't purchase an EA pack. Huge lag issues even at 4AM. Desync and getting trapped in charge animations from Rhoa and wolves. I see this getting way better pretty quickly though.

[@Pl4sm0]

More than first impression was what build you have been using, I would love a full review later

[@chandaman95]

Didn't they say the new passive skill tree would be more impactful... all I see is a bunch of 5% chance of this, 15% increased that... triple the tree numbers, lmao. Didn't we shit on d4 because of this exactly? Massively slow gameplay, which I don't mind, but reward me accordingly. Give me a bunch of non tradeable currency items or something, man. Let trade be a thing for maps if the economy is an issue. Give me a reason to struggle besides the game being cool. Otherwise, it's just wasting my time.

[@SagostundenSvenska]

I agree with pretty much all of it. I would also like to see more groundanimations on incoming damage. Some are great, some are very hard to estimate where the damage is coming and how big the aoe of it is.

[@yr4hcaZ]

really hope they keep the difficulty and instead just give players more power in the form of currency and gear. uncut supports should drop more often to encourage experimentation, and rare chests should drop rare gear to allow for grinding upgrades and regals

[@Masgrty]

I think they are achieving something special here. I would however, prefer to have dash, flame dash, ect. Over just a short roll. The hit box on player characters feels huge and having those mobility skills I think will help. Overall, im having a great time. Good job GGG.

[@ftsforever]

i have thousands and thousands of hours on poe1, its the game i play when i want to chill poe2 is basically playing poe1 on ruthless but worse taking 10 minutes to kill a normal instance (not act) boss while having to not get hit once coz if you get hit once you dead, yeah its not fun you go full dps and somehow still have zero deeps, you try to go tank to survive, and you cant coz no layers of defence in tree anymore not to mention the drop rate is abysmal, heck guys, you advertised this game saying there would be lots more currency drop so we could craft in campaign but we now know this aint true, there is nothing dropping, c'mon and to further kick us in the teeth they remove lab (hooray) but put pre nerf sanctum on its place instead (WTF???)

[@getoutofmylobby4347]

I have a similar expierence. After bringing a merc to act 2 and quitting because i was shotting wet noodles i rerolled a sorc, specced EVERYTHING in damage, rolled a lucky staff with 2+ lightning + spell damage + cast speed and it STILL feels terrible to even kill white mobs. Its very wierd and i dont understand this path at all...

[@TeckTheBlooded]

Do people really hate Lab that much? I've seen that mentioned so often, but I'd rather Lab than Ultimatum or Sanctum (even post nerf)

[@sportschool3537]

@@getoutofmylobby4347 I do understand it... they cater to the streamers and sweatlords because they think they're the "hardcore gamers that will be loyal"... but they don't understand that the people that made PoE a huge success are not the Asmongolds of the world but the players that want to chill and have fun in their evening after their hard work... Streamers are endlessly praising this game like it's the best thing that ever happened but the game is NOT FUN... it's tedious... I killed the Act 1 boss after dying 15-20 times and all I could think was "finally... thank god it's over"... it wasn't fun... it wasn't rewarding... it was TEDIOUS!!! This game is dedicated to the "git gud" mob out there... I dare you to try and say anything negative in chat in the game... I got a storm of shaming and ridiculing messages from the "git gud" army of sweaty virgins because I dared to say the game is not fun and it's bad because it's not PoE... This game will die very very soon if they don't get their shit straight and actually listen to the REAL PoE players...

[@getoutofmylobby4347]

@@sportschool3537 I mean i get that. But i have to out myself here i guess, i am a total degen PoE player leveling to 100 solo and 40/40 challenges and stuff and even i DONT HAVE FUN. Its just not fun killing stuff...I dont care if anybody tells me "git gud", that does nothing but revealing their own IQ. This is an ARPG not the CDL COD Championships. Using Spacebar for a dodgeroll isnt "skill". The game is out for like a day and even tho i could play right now i rather have a conversation and watch the streamer awards then playing. That say a lot for me...Streamers will probably share their true opinion once the sponsors / gifted events are over and its clear that the general perception is bad and its "safe" to voice a critical opinion.

[@HRRRRRDRRRRR]

​@@sportschool3537 Yeah no, people with jobs aren't playing PoE. There aren't enough free hours of the day for it. Either you have absolutely zero life and just go from work, to in front of your desk at home and play nothing but PoE until you go to bed. Or you don't play it because there's way too much grind every season for even a single build. It's a game for NEETs. Time will tell if PoE 2 is the same time-wise, but at least its fun isn't derived from grinding currency for weeks on end to finish a build that lets you hold down a button and run around a map.

[@choufumei]

Combat definitely feels really engaging, but the skill variety available to you early on can have you forced to roll around a little bit much. Agreeing with others that crafting materials feel unreasonably rare at this point, but we'll see how it feels considering we're really only on day 3 so far. Playing primarily monk and my auto attack is my main method of attack lol. Didn't get the materials or drops for a new weapon by level 11, and just caved and bought one. Still, having a blast. The mob scaling as a duo feels wild though, especially when you might be paired with a friend who's not maxing out their DPS. Pretty unforgiving. Done quite a few boss fights solo with minimal flask charges due to them dying, and because of no flask charge regen by default.

[@joklo2]

i think its perfektly fine that poe2 has a different vibe than poe1. if not why would they ceep both if them alive

[@valjohnson7112]

@@joklo2 I’d be surprised if they keep them both alive. If poe2 is really going to be this successful then in a year or two someone will say “why are we working 2x as hard to compete against ourselves?”

[@HRRRRRDRRRRR]

@@valjohnson7112 How are they competing against themselves? They have a combined store and split dev teams, and a complete stranglehold on the genre.

[@alexk9295]

They keep poe1 alive in case the hardcore audience doesn't like or stick around with poe2. If the big majority moves to poe2 I'm sure they'll stop developing poe1

[@TheMCmace]

I‘m fine with a different vibe Basically no loot is not a different vibe tho

[@JakeGittes84]

They literally need to 3x all loot rates across the board. ARPG is first and foremost about LOOT. Don't get it twisted.

[@electricant55]

so why is the first thing any new PoE player is told is to install a loot filter?

[@th1zzend220]

@@electricant55 That games drops way too much loot, meaning too much or too little is both bad, tho rather too much than too little. Your point has no relevancy at all to what he said, the loot feels pretty horrible rn

[@selenang2006]

I thought they just said they are gonna nerd the drop rates more

[@JakeGittes84]

@@electricant55 You are not sincerely asking me this question. Either way, no one is filtering random rares on their first playthrough. The game throws more rares at you to identify, and also gives you way more currency to craft with yourself. As you progress you get so much loot that you have to filter out the bad stuff. That's better than not having any items to filter out in the first place.

[@irmantasvaitkauskas6769]

Are you diablo fan, where legendary rains non stop. Loots needs to feel rewarding

[@Mufasotep]

I hope they'll implement minion skills, like herald of purity, for templar on release or when the class is available

[@Kevin000]

Imagine do this every 3 months xD not a fucking chance XD

[@Anon1370]

i went from not liking poe 1 and not getting past act 1 to getting into act 2 on poe 2 by the skin of my teeth it feels like a ruthless game its hard to have fun when i'm clenching my butt cheeks but i like it for the better graphics i just wish i didn't clench my butt cheeks on every boss XD.

[@jokerwick]

Yeah they definitely need to speed up Acts. I'm only on Act 3 when i already would've been in maps in PoE1. I'm not particularly fast in the first game either.

[@RG32822]

I think the game is gonna drop off hard as soon as they launch a beta league. The campaign is fun, but casuals don't want to lose the small progress they've made over months, and the PoE veterans don't want to slog through the campaign to get their builds online.

[@Anon1370]

@@RG32822I don't fancy doing the campaign over and over on a league think I'll stick to standard it's a slog if it was a shorter campaign and easier it wouldnt be so bad but my build melts mobs but not bosses and I'm.a glass canon I can't get the right gear

[@Anon1370]

@@RG32822 I plan to stick to standard with how hard I find campaign

[@B0redZer0]

i feel like what we need for gear is something like rare maps guaranteed dropping a rare item, or just makong currency more common

[@Zerli]

I would prefer the game to be more enjoyable for new players but it’s not. I’m a Poe veteran and I’m struggling with campaign. Progression is super slow and not rewarding at all. I can’t feel power of my character. I’m always weak and the only reason why I’m winning is due to rolling, movement and learning the patterns and fighting for 10-20min one boss just to progress. You can’t grind as you don’t level gems etc and leveling up does not contribute that much like gear which you barely get enough to replace old stuff or craft something new… currently game is in horrible state I might go back to Poe 1 or drop entirely. Just thought about doing another character and going through campaign makes me sick…

[@TeckTheBlooded]

I've 4 chars trying to get through Act 1, furthest I got was an Ice Sorc with a good gamble weapon, still struggling in the later section. It's "simpler" than PoE1 for sure, but as a (mid-level) PoE1 player, I'd rather deal with the slotting chokehold in Act 6 of PoE1 than the everything-struggle PoE2 has right now. Hoping for major changes, otherwise I might wait for full release and check the 2/3 other class structures for something not cheesy (imo) like Minion builds.

[@stanthemighty]

I'm having the exact opposite experience 😅never could finish campaign on PoE, I started trying to play about 3 years ago, and I'm having a blast on campaign in PoE2 softcore. Haven't had a real hard time with bosses yet (mid act 1 so it's still early) with merc, melee I die frequently but once I learn the patterns, it helps. RNG is RNG tho, I've had several lucky rare drops as merc, but the monk I started dies stupid fast to any medium sized mobs. still fun tho, looking forward to endgame

[@Lilliathi]

Hm, I think I killed all act 1 bosses on either first or second try. First boss I had to try a couple times was in act 2. Playing a scuffed poison ranger.

[@damncrunk7135]

It's early access. Feel free to fuck off and come back. Or dont

[@Ashley-rj8up]

I am enjoying it as someone who has never played poe1 I’m I’d say half way through act 2 and it’s great

[@gatirenan]

my totems are getting destroyed early, how can i get totem life? never played poe1

[@theonemvp_1]

There are totem nodes

[@kylemenos]

Gem lv and skill tree nodes is the main source. sometimes there is supports also

[@vitorferreira6572]

I've been playing as a merc, and it's been surprisingly less hard than I thought it was. It's a push and pull kinda combat where you have to go fight backwards to not get overwhelmed by enemies.

[@lynco3296]

As someone who has played horde shooters like darktide and vermintide this has been beaten into me but I can see why the game would be pretty difficult if you haven't had that experience.

[@rebeltheharem7028]

Try playing cross bow on a sorc. It makes crossbow on merc seem like easy mode. Why did I go cross bow on sorc? Cause I love suffering.

[@AgitoBlues]

Fire wall such a usedul dps boost for me.

[@vitorferreira6572]

@AgitoBlues I also used it! It was my third skill, very powerful with the shotgun.

[@vitorferreira6572]

@@rebeltheharem7028 🤣

[@PatrickF.Fitzsimmons]

i would say about 80% of the payer base will drop out at end of act 1 and i don't blame them.

[@togrid4816]

i rage quit 3/4 of act two as fire sorc...not enought damage, no interessting drop, no gold anymore...don't want to farm like hell during 1 hour to make 5% more damage. Will reroll a easy build and finish the acts

[@MicroNQTrader]

It took me hours of respecting farming to get past that act1 boss. Frankly I really have no want to go thru that again for act 2. So I am out till things get fixed if they don’t well oh well no a game for me.

[@soulstealer5625]

@@togrid4816im srill on ice nova, was hoping for comet but the game refuses to drop level 11 skill gems despite being in the area level for it.

[@274Onmyway]

Give witch a try guys. With the minion taking the boss attention, it's way easier.

[@sportschool3537]

@@274Onmyway That's not a solution... sorry but even if Witch works then that means that the other 5 classes are unplayable and unfun... game is still a turd...

[@ismailtemur1]

POE2 is basically ruthless+ with new classes. I do not enjoy the game so there is no point playing at this point for me, i am happy for those who enjoy

[@ShadyHarbinger666]

GGG should have stuck to their original plan and update PoE 1 art, gfx, engine, and some balance/game mechanic refinements. PoE 2 is going to die faster than we think. Especially, if we have to do the campaign over and over again in every league with the most tedious and boring game mechanics ever in any ARPG. They built the whole game around dodge instead of adding dodge as a useful ability on top of the game.

[@mjphyil]

Yep, I've tried the merc and gear and good support gems quickly became a problem. Tried the Witch since I got some good drops when leveling the merc and had an easier time, leveled much faster and seemed to get more gear. Totally agree that drops seem really slim and getting a potion with regen on charges feels really good. Getting currency to upgrade gear seems non existent, so so hard to upgrade gear - I've had better luck getting random stuff from Finn.

[@JunkieMonkey321]

20% more base move speed alone would fix tons of issues…

[@kaizikorugwm9251]

No need for it you can get increase movement very easy from talens and shoes

[@mike-8381]

@@kaizikorugwm9251are you high???

[@JordaanM]

@@kaizikorugwm9251 I was level 50 before I got any boots with MS on them, while actively looking. There's not enough access to crafting or pre-rolled gear to reliably gain access to stats like that.

[@darsynia]

You're right, STARVING for support gems, especially if you're trying to figure out which one is a good one. That's way too unforgiving. Several people I know are rerolling low level characters to get access to more of them and deleting those chars after a while. Thankfully that's something that GGG will have a record for and is a tangible metric if that's indeed something that's happening more frequently.

[@harborwolf22]

I'm level 23 in act 2 and I haven't gotten a single alchemy drop. Not one. This is getting really old.

[@RG32822]

Alchemys are super rare now. I got 1 at 43. Your upgrade path is Transmute into Regal now to make rares. And Regals aren't even that common either, get most from vendoring 20 rares which also are not that common.

[@deeg4190]

Do weapon stats in your weapon swap count even when they aren’t currently selected/used?

[@Kimmurial333]

First time POE player here and I am really enjoying this. Agree with what you said. What I will say is this though: I think GGG could have made the campaign a bit easier for first time players. Ill give the Diablo team credit that the D4 is impactful and explosive out of the box. Here, POE2 is explosive but at the expense of dying a lot, and for me at least...thats not fun

[@bukakabarabaka]

Diablo is faceroll, you literally cant die on first it second difficulty. Fuck this.

[@Malbott]

I agree 100% on the support gems and flask things. Feels like I need to choose supp gems just to fill the spots but they are kinda meh.

[@Snowy123]

I think the player base forgot that when PoE1 came out it was ruthless also. Literally the game mode ruthless was the default. Then with power creep now we faceroll and get to 80. The game will be tweaked, power creep will happen, game will get easier. But don't forget GGG origins.

[@ninakuup21]

Yeah but now the difference is the devs have a lot more experience under their belt than the start of poe 1, I don't feel like saying poe 1 was also hard on release is valid in this case when talking about the grueling process called poe 2

[@gregariousgaming6265]

@@ninakuup21 the difference is chris isn't doing any dev input and this is all jonathans vision.

[@HRRRRRDRRRRR]

Implying the ones whining weren't shitting their pants while playing Roblox, back when PoE hit beta.

[@saunorine]

⁠@@gregariousgaming6265that doesnt mean shit if jonathans vision just repeats the same mistakes chris had. Why are we playing against tanky as fuck rare mobs that drop less than archnemesis? Why are enemies more mobile than us?

[@gregariousgaming6265]

@@saunorine because that's johnathons vision of the game and he's the lead dev. i'm not a fan of it either. i had 2 exalt drops by the time i hit cruel a1. he said in an interview he wanted people to use 4 ex before end of act 1 or they had failed.

[@ChrisenMedia]

11:15-11:20 This will age like fine wine. Jokes aside, I do think making every map have tons of narrow passages/corridors together with monsters, is a design flaw and not a skill issue.

[@artemonstrick]

im not having fun. no loot, slow, dodge or die. buwegh

[@kylemenos]

hehe its ruthless you are playing.

[@sportschool3537]

@@kylemenos Well, what if I don't wanna play ruthless then??? What if I want to have FUN with my gaming time and not sweat my ass off??? What if my fun needs to be based on my build crafting and not on my perfect reactions on dodge roll??? What if I want to play PoE and not fucking Dark Souls???

[@HRRRRRDRRRRR]

@@sportschool3537 Then go play PoE..?

[@sportschool3537]

@@HRRRRRDRRRRR No, I want to play PoE 2 and I want PoE 2 to be a proper ARPG and not another moronic Dark Souls wannabe bullshit game... Now shut up...

[@karldergrosse-333]

@@HRRRRRDRRRRR braindead comment

[@SpookySkeleton738]

flasks do recharge as you kill monsters though. it literally says on the tooltip

[@donalddouds6033]

Except in arenas that don’t spawn ads

[@sergtrufanov5565]

Rare and elite monsters