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[@idunno4real]

Fellow Shadow priest. This is your public service announcement, DO NOT use halo on the last boss of Ara Kara as halo will 1 shot all the adds making pools overlap near the entrances and your tank will leave. Dont ask how i know, just trust me.

[@TheOlddr]

Are you THE shadow priest?🤣

[@dariominiello9934]

pretty sure no tanks needs the pool, they can either leap away, intervene, use death advance, roll, transcendance, etc

[@Paragonx89]

@@dariominiello9934 DK Tanks def dont cause of Deaths Advance, but every other tank needs to have a pool so they dont get sucked into the AoE and die.

[@dariominiello9934]

@@Paragonx89 i literally wrote how you do it lol, however i agree that dk is the easiest

[@Paragonx89]

@@dariominiello9934 it sounded like you were saying that tanks can completely avoid the pools mech - which I was stating is incorrect. Every tank (aside from DK) 100% needs to step into a pool. Admittedly, I'm not sure about Transcendence, but I can guarantee you that if you leap away as a DH or Warrior you're getting sucked back in and possibly dying.

[@mikemarks3155]

I always love how you break things down man appreciate ya

[@Tactyks]

Happy to hear it, appreciate you too friend

[@derryberry7991]

My issue with Erudax as a tank is I’m pretty sure I’ve had tentacles spawn on top of me because while im standing still killing the adds I’ve been randomly stunned

[@Tactyks]

Yeah the tentacles start to spawn during the AoE channel, so it can be tough to see them under all the adds/ground effects!

[@connor2500]

Beautiful fact: in case you don’t know, as a Dk on Erudax, you can AMS and clear tentacles. Hope this helps someone!

[@Tactyks]

Great tip! Another one that is cool is spell reflect for warriors actually allows you to clear a single tentacle as well, which can be really useful in the small circle to give you more space to spread out.

[@Dandypaws1]

Do you know if clearing the tentacle still triggers it to hit ? Because I bubbled and ran through the tentacles to clear as many as I can, but I think they kinda clapped all the people that were standing near them. I am not sure though.

[@Tactyks]

@@Dandypaws1 I haven't noticed them hitting nearby players on removal, it's possible but they would also get stunned if that's the case so most likely there was some other damage going out at the time.

[@f1rxf1y]

cloak of shadows as rogue. pop cloak and sprint and run through all the tentacles.

[@Kryt05]

@@Tactyks Unless they changef something in the last 2 days, Spell Reflection allows you to keep on clearing for it's entire 5 sec duration.

[@satansfinests]

you are the best thank you for these!!! love these longer in depth videos

[@Tactyks]

Always happy to help, just glad people find them useful!

[@crioTimmy]

All this time, I was having panic attacks when Ki'katal throws out her poisons, because my monkey brain imagined these green exhausts doing damage to other players. Thus I was completely losing my head frantically trying not to hit anyone and losing a ton of damage. I've just figured out, after watching the video and then reading the ability's description, that these "exhausts" simply indicate the dicetion the green dumplings gonna fly.

[@cgleckman]

I feel like the first boss of stonevault should be in this video. Awesome video!

[@Tactyks]

It's definitely a tough one! I recommend stacking as a group to spawn pillars in one spot, then moving slightly and having the tank break them all at the same time since they need to have a defensive up for the tank buster anyways, then just repeat. Will have a visual representation in my +10 stonevault video when that gets released!

[@Linknla]

this was great, ty Tactyks

[@Tactyks]

No problem at all!

[@TheLeroy125]

For final boss ara'kara you can cheese the singularity mechanic with a good amount of classes. Rsham if you have gust, you can just run in wolf form and gust just as the final pull happens, you won't get sucked in. Pretty sure this would also work for hunter disengage, mage blink, voker pseudo blink etc etc.

[@Tactyks]

Great tip! Evoker breath also makes them immune to the effect so that is also helpful!

[@Freshtanking]

You can also spell reflect/heroic leap as a warrior with less than a second left.

[@Telados]

Just be a blood dk and ignore mechanics as usual

[@Mirrormn]

As a mage, you can Alter Time when the boss starts sucking, and then revert it right when the biggest pull occurs (~0.5s before the end of the cast). Easier to pull off than using Blink.

[@MichaelvoxTFIF]

As monk transcendence at the start on opposite side. Transcendence transfer when she pulls in. Pretty fun!

[@zantar04]

Fun fact: Erudax in Grim Batol, Warrior's spell reflect can 'reflect' the tentacles currently. Not sure if blizzard plan on changing this or not but a war spell reflect can be used to clear out some tentacles.

[@AndrewYuniar]

Thnx for the tip

[@Tactyks]

Great tip! I assume it's intended, I'm not sure I've seen them take away a 0 damage spell reflect before either so hopefully it stays in because it's nice tech.

[@harryperdomo5998]

Thank you! We were cleaving the erudax mobs too early and kept wiping

[@Tactyks]

Of course, glad I could help!

[@HOBOTw1tcH]

For master machinist - if your entire party goes into the far right corner, you can negate all but 1 mechanic. You can stand still backed into the wall and dodge EVERYTHING. the only thing you have to move for is the fire orb the big guy shoots from his arm. And the boss will ALWAYS jump right next to you so ANYONE can get the ranged interrupt. You’re welcome!

[@Jay-407]

I had a great idea to use enchanting powder on euradax to make him translucent so you can see the tentacles but of course it doesn’t work.

[@Tactyks]

Yup, unfortunately for some reason they decided to stop letting that work back in Dragonflight :(

[@jamessutherland506]

Love the transparency of City of Threads last boss haha. Absolutely love the vids man 👍 Really appreciate the effort you put into these guides

[@Tactyks]

Of course, just happy people are finding the content useful!

[@symeonchatzigeorgiou9381]

The stonevault overlap seems like a bug to me.

[@Tactyks]

Definitely would not be surprised if they adjusted timings to get rid of it because it's extremely painful if you don't get lucky.

Stitchflesh orbs are pointless except for affix cus they just kick The spear is useful with lust though. The damage ramps up the longer the add lives so based on your healers hps/mana kill add to get fresh stacks

[@Tactyks]

The orbs also deal damage on top of interrupting, so if you're trying to burst the boss down the best time to use them is in combination with the triple spear damage amp.

[@seanynee]

tool tip says it does damage

@@seanynee it does shadowlands damage

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

Bro i cant even time a grim batol +3 😂

[@SK4R1337]

Don't the orbs in necrotic wake only silence now? I think they removed the damage portion And in City of Threads they just patched Splice to be 3 seconds shorter, so you don't have it ticking anymore when the slam or umbral weave come out

[@Tactyks]

My understanding was the orbs still did damage but definitely could be wrong. The majority of the value comes from the triple spears though, so that should be enough to help you quickly kill the abom and 1 or 2 phase the boss himself. Saw the Splice nerf this morning, very nice to see those spooky overlaps twice per phase be entirely eliminated hahaha, that boss will not be significantly easier!

[@Ibl33s]

@@Tactyks don’t spears offer damage done buff ? If so isn’t it better to use one at a time like in SL?

[@todoz11]

@@Ibl33s the buff stacks. best way is to use 2 and then use a third late to extend and make it a triple stack

[@Tactyks]

@@Ibl33s The damage done buff actually stacks, so syncing up multiple uses with all your CDs is better burst

[@HOBOTw1tcH]

For the machinist bosses in stonevault, do you know the cheese strat? I taught Quazii tonight. Was curious why I hadn’t seen more guide makers talk about it

[@HOBOTw1tcH]

3rd boss city of threads gave us a ton of trouble for some reason

[@Tactyks]

Definitely a tough boss with so many healing absorbs going out on the group, think it just got a bit overshadowed by the last boss absolutely crushing people hahaha. I recommend handling it similarly to that final boss, starting in one corner and soaking to fill it with puddles, then slowly rotating around the room as you fill in that space. Defensives of course on the channeled AoE along with healer throughput. Just gotta be careful not to get hit by the 8yd circle the boss puts down!

[@Mimsy_Crush]

ara kara is the one i never had bad luck with

[@ianbradley1772]

Hardest part is finding groups to do these level of keys with. Seen a lot of players just faceroll through 6-7 and die to simple mechanics.

[@Tactyks]

100%, one of the biggest perks of running with guildees is actually being able to communicate what's going on if someone doesn't know what to do. You just dont get that in most PUGs unfortunately.

[@HOBOTw1tcH]

Last boss ara kara - you don’t need poison dispels. They time out on their own. Just dodge

[@Tactyks]

Definitely not needed, but the DoT itself can be quite overwhelming on 5 players at the same time, so the more dispels you have the more damage your group gets to mitigate.

[@Jefflenious]

As a healer I take the poison totem when I'm playing with my own group, it's easy to call it in advance and have people position themselves properly and press it once everyone's ready On pugs though the waves will 100% kill people, overall the boss doesn't really require that much healing so you might as well press them on the poison

[@n34r02]

kinda. However I asked my healer if it helped to dispel as a prot pally. He was like - "hell yeah, helps a ton!"

[@Mikesart98]

Bro master machinists fight I was screwed over by Xal’atath because she appears and speaks over enemy audio before she drops orbs. So the boss didn’t even say he’s opening the vents like he usually does and we wiped because they were open and we had no idea 😭😭 I guess that’ll teach me to pay more attention to the screen but still I think that’s dumb

[@Tactyks]

Yeah the Xal'atath mechanics seem to be messing with a few bosses, last boss in siege just eats them all in the middle of the water for example hahaha

[@Facie]

The Machinist boss cant be supposed to be like that? Feels bugged out atm. No time to react ans to use a cheese spot doesnt seem like the way. But thank you for the tip!! Like this I might be able to pug it lol. Great content!

[@Tactyks]

Would definitely be nice if they fix that nasty overlap because it can feel a bit unfair if you get unlucky with puddles for sure. Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@normannseils3936]

@@Tactyksthe only thing unfair about the boss is the absurd range kick necessary when the small guy is far away. The rest is super predictable.

[@TheOlddr]

The Stitchflesh boss is very punishing. If you or one of your member fked up on the first pull with spears there is no second pull without spears by just dismiss the party.

[@Tactyks]

Yeah that's always been the most frustrating part of Necrotic Wake, honestly wish they would've just removed the weapons and tuned the dungeon down to compensate.

[@normannseils3936]

@@Tactyksyea, I hate these gimmicks. In premade it kinda works, but we screwed up an 11. if you don’t kill on your first try, you can leave, there is no remedy.

[@904colin]

No one talking about how these bosses are chunking geared tanks as seen at the beginning of the city of echoes boss portion. Looks like 2 hits almost kill you instantly.

[@Tactyks]

They are definitely tough, but also to be fair I walked into the boss with no defensives or ironfur stacks up, plus technically being around 615ilvl for this stuff is about at the expected gear, maybe even a little lower than expected since you can get hero track starting at +7s. Gotta remember it's still week one and most players doing this content are 20+ ilvls below where they'll be a few weeks from now, which is a MASSIVE difference.

[@SuperSkyreacher]

what is the weakaura for spells and cds on the enemy nameplate? or its an addon?

[@Tactyks]

It's a WeakAura you can grab here: wago.io/LyVvlKxvs

[@AndreasRex]

WA "spell CDs on nameplate" (LyVvlKxvs on wago), but I think the addon omniauras does it as well.

[@rakebangalang]

Spell reflect kills the tentacles don’t ask me how I know this

[@Tactyks]

Yeah very nice thing to note, any warrior can press spell reflect on CD and clear a bunch of tentacles which is really helpful.

[@wowsew]

Bro M broodtwister is farming my guild , good video tho ty atleast i can win in m+😂

[@Tactyks]

Hahaha yeah Broodtwister is such a massive step up from Rasha'nan, it's kind of wild.

Imo Erudax is fine but the dragon before that hits so damn hard

[@pwnedsocks]

Erudax is not fine, +10 adds hit for 377k each

@@pwnedsocks Yeah I am saying this healing pov I struggle more on dragon.

[@pwnedsocks]

Do you los the buffet? It makes dragons very simple

@@pwnedsocks how

[@anneu3068]

Not dragonS. He means the third boss on dragon phase. There is no LoS

[@AngoDecay]

"moderate dmg" group drops to 10% hp within 1.5 seconds

[@Tactyks]

More referring to the actual size of the ticks which are individually smaller, there's just a lot of them over the 3s channel. Because of that healers have time to prepare for that damage though!

[@GHIBaal]

City of Threats is insane rn. Brainded DPS not knowing any Mecanics

[@Tactyks]

It's definitely a very tough dungeon mechanically, but as people learn it over the next couple weeks I think it'll get better.

[@Criam]

It's like they don't key bind defensive

[@thethanor]

Love the videos, but man it must be nice to not have to pug and be able to actually wipe and learn a boss lol

[@Tactyks]

Definitely one of the biggest perks of running with guildees, I don't think I'm cut out for the PUG life...

[@arzos2603]

Tried Erudax at 603ivl +8 we made it to 20% and kept failing afterwards.

[@norskevikingen7189]

On last boss akara, did you use a macro for shapeshifting? seems like you changed so fast out and in again in bearform.

[@mcrbelieve3923]

I didn't check but it's probably the talent "Fluid form". It makes it so pressing "rake" or "mangle" instantly change you into cat/bear respectively.

[@Tactyks]

No I shapeshifted cat form to run away from the boss once the cast started and got rooted, then to break the root I shifted back into bear form after the cast was done.

[@norskevikingen7189]

@@Tactyks oki ty 🙂

[@Tactyks]

@@norskevikingen7189 Np!

[@joshbedford5330]

Holy hell how do you guys have time to get to plus 9 ive been playing since season one launch about 3 hours a day to lvl and gear up to 600 plus not even close to this.

[@Tactyks]

I have no life 🥲

[@dariominiello9934]

you can do +9 and 10 with 600 ilvl for sure, just need to do everything correctly and get a good healer lol, some +10 might not be doable in time though

[@Pastrahmy]

NW and CoT got nerfs.

[@Tactyks]

So what you're saying is I should make more videos about bosses to get them nerfed? :P

[@FreeBait]

​@@TactyksYes, do more about erudax

[@TheBaySicks-l6u]

what addon do you use on the right hand side to show you how your progress is for the key? @tactyks

[@Tactyks]

It's a WeakAura made by Reloe, you can grab it here: wago.io/M+Timer

[@siavashghasemi7548]

sorry but i'm sure orbs are not doing dmg anymore they just intrupt the casters.

[@Tactyks]

Totally fair! In that case you'd still just save up 3 spears and use the damage amp with your cooldowns (and lust if you have it) and it's the same effect.