Hardware Review - Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS Hotas

[@jontrout2010]

Skipping the unboxing cured my mesothelioma. Cheers.

[@stevelawrie9115]

Yep, good, informative demo without the dumb behaviour.

[@davidliu2243]

lol

[@varjo69]

Over 1 year DAILY flying, no problems what so ever.

[@toiler1]

no unboxing - thanks god!

[@ironroad18]

Yeah, I hate when people do that and do a long winded intro. We know what a box looks like and just get to the point.

[@samconroyy]

Can't wait to get this and then play the new Microsoft Flight Sim! I've never experienced a sim with a stick so I'm super excited.... That and flying helos on ARMA!

[@ianfowler8743]

Just upgraded to the t.16000m flight pack from the tflight hotas x and it totally changed the game for me! All the hat switches, buttons, the precision of the stick and throttle, and the pedals produce such a different sensation when flying and I can't believe I didn't make the upgrade sooner! Thanks for the detailed review!

[@jawarakf]

Before I buy, can you set the big knob hat switch right in front of throttle for pan view (replacing mouse)?

[@Kazperh]

@@jawarakf Yes.

[@jawarakf]

@@Kazperh thanks for your reply. I got the throttle and the big knob is not ideal for pan view because of difficulty in controlling axis that would go too fast. I ended up using it for radar antenna azimuth slew instead while the hat switch for TDC movement target selection on MFD. I set the flight stick hat switch for pan view.

[@godsway7177]

Awesome video jabber's I just got into this DCS flight simulator .. I absolutely love this stuff unfortunately I cannot fly for the life of me I looked at getting the thrustmaster warthog ..a bit pricey for a beginner..but I'm into iracing and fanatec isn't cheap either ..this looks like the best one for me right now..just want to say thank you..I like all your videos it's now my new hobby to fly this sim..some day maybe I'll be able to play online it's a lot to learn...people like you are greatly appreciated by people like me.. Thank you....

[@VidoFunn]

This review made me buy the Thrustmaster T.16000M joystick because like he said in minute 9:07 "Maybe have a Logitech 3d pro", then is one of the best choices to upgrade your joystick. Thanks for the video!

[@psyrixx]

Love this joystick and recommend it heavily in my simulator videos and livestreams.

[@Motorman2112]

The pinky roller on the the throttle is perfect for Harrier nozzles.

[@cmackie1]

You are a genius!

[@BlackHawk2029]

Brilliant! That may actually cure my hatred of flying harriers in sims.

[@jazzcat9363]

I had never considered a HOTAS before, but after seeing the trailer for Star Wars: Squadrons, i'm definitely getting this HOTAS. Might get the full flight pack that includes the pedals.

[@ares2067]

Outstanding review my friend. Just ordered mine today. I have been wanting to get into flight sims (the real way) and also give Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen a fair shake. Can't do that without a good HOTAS.

[@falkenzocker]

That's a load of screens

[@therealsilens]

I've had mine for quite a while now and the only issue I really had was with the slide rails on the throttle. Fortunately a little Nyogel 767A (eBay, $25) and an hour or so or my time made the throttle absolutely buttery smooth, much better than I could have ever imagined. To anyone who wants to go the extra mile and who appreciates a wickedly smooth throttle without the slight "catching" or "jerking" I would definitely recommend it.

[@Jabbers]

Just did this to my warthog, good to know it works on the t16000!

[@normand5847]

Is that stuff similar to white lithium grease?

[@vnyggi621]

Is there a less expensive alternative? 25$ grease is kinda overkill for a budget hotas

[@mattsmechanicalssi5833]

@@vnyggi621 Silicone Dielectric Grease. You can get a small squeeze tube of it at any auto parts store for $5-$8. A little bit will go a long way. Too much will create resistance, so for this purpose, a thin film works best. It will not harm plastic or rubber. It does feel a bit weird on the skin, but it won't hurt you. I'm a Mechanic, and I use the stuff all the time. And it still feels strange to me!

[@gusbisbal9803]

For some reason when you said "Pinky and ring finger" I imagined two fun loving cartoon mice and their whacky adventures.

[@momcilogavric4930]

Lol😀

[@broworm1]

Nice review Jabbers, your findings are very much in line with the reasons I bought this HOTAS a year or so back.

[@Alirezarz62]

I don't usually comment but this is the proper way to review things nicely done sir

[@АлександрКулагин-э1ф]

Пользуюсь таким джойстиком 4 года.Для удобства закрепил РУД и РУС (газ и штурвал) на площадке из фанеры на болтах.А все вместе разместил на выдвижной полке для клавиатуры с помощью эксцентрикового зажима.Всё работает.

[@ronaldwatson1951]

I truly appreciate your candor about this product.

[@dh8203]

The joystick apparently has a design flaw that often causes it to develop z-axis drift after a rather short use life. Mine lasted about 120 hours of play time before it started drifting. Supposedly it's possible to repair, if you can find a replacement sensor and don't mind soldering.

[@norokelt]

good guide, good points. only thing that pocked my eye was the absence of light. when you showed the buttons which one is where etc. well... I saw basicaly nothing but darkness.

[@Corsair8X]

I'm thinking of adding this to my Warthog system because that throttle would make a nice radar control module for the F-5. It has everything in roughly the correct place (and a little more). You are a good reviewer by the way. Like this format. Would like to see that button box you have reviewed as well.

[@TaffenFelspar]

Nice review.... Bought one, spot on with my (limited) use thus far and I'm happy with my purchase. The only issue I have is that I wish it's size was a tad smaller. My old M$ Sidewinder Precision 2s fit my small hands better, especially around the stick's thumb buttons. That tall thumb trim (coolie hat) button really gets in the way when using the side buttons. Anyway Thanks!!!

[@CrisURace]

I'd use the axis on the stick for prop pitch on prop planes.

[@Tigermoto]

I use it for STO stop on the harrier

[@sailyourface]

I've had mine for little over a year and really like it. Only problem I've had is the throttle seems to be kinda sticky and hard for small movements (like aerial refueling).

[@brianspruce6901]

Jason Klein I agree with your comments especially the sticky throttle. Problem cured with a small spray of oil on the steel guides.

[@ImMora1]

Brian Spruce use silicon spray instead of oil. Works way better on plastic on metal contact.

[@nimrodquimbus912]

You can also get teflon grease in a tube

[@Tigermoto]

A lot of people don't know also that it's adjustable. Throttle full forward and an adjustment screw appears underneath. Had mine 2 years and it is due a little grease now though

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

I appreciate your video because you have PICTURE-IN-PICTURE showing us your IRL hand movements along with the in game footage. MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU: DCS is free for the next 8 days and a lot of us newbs are franticly searching for videos on how to videos related to the game's weapons, flight systems, etc. You should make as many beginner focused tutorials as you can to grow your channel. Grim Reapers is doing that, but he doesn't have your picture-in-picture setup.

[@Jabbers]

Unfortunately don't have time, my job and kids take priority and tbh this is just a hobby and I do videos when I get time and care to do them.

[@kizunadragon9]

This HOTAS is great. First I bought a X56 pro figuring for $249 it's got to be one of the best, I hated it, the throttle was way too stiff and the yaw twist hurt my wrist it was so bad. So I shipped it back to Logitech and got this. I am blown away by what a difference this makes. Logitech needs to get their act together because Thrustmaster blows them away. The throttle on the 16000m is a little sticky but easily fixed.

[@Zontzo]

Nice review. I've had one for almost a year now under heavy usage and it still works fine although a few small problems have arisen. The stick has a tiny wiggle in the center, whereas previously it was rock solid. Doesn't really matter though and the sensor still works perfectly. In addition, the rudder thingy on the throttle is pretty much broken. I used it for my rudder exclusively but now it's pretty much unusable. (Huge ghost inputs) I'm using the twist on the stick now, which is fine but I did prefer the throttle rudder as long as it worked. I've always found the buttons (not the hats, those are really nice) on the stick and throttle a bit mushy, but perfectly usable. I had the Logitech 3D prior to this which had really tactile and sharp buttons. That said, it's really solid system and definitely worth the money. The button layout is damn near perfect, the stick could maybe use a button or two more (or a hat).

[@RedhotIta1]

I always found odd to use the Paddles on the throttle as a rudder, I mainly use those as a brake axis when available.

[@Power5]

A year is all this is good for? That sucks. Was really hoping it could be my next stick. My G940 setup is getting a bit worn out with ghost inputs as well. But, it is also 7-8 years old at this point. However, I am just a casual flyer who flies a handful of times per week.

[@tomemapratt]

a mi me descepciono crei que seria mas preciso, tengo un Mad V.1 Stick mucho mas de la mitad de económico de lo que vale el Thrusmaster

[@Yakovlev_Norris]

I don't know why, but I found the bit at 5:46 where you're looking for your zoom in the wrong place quite funny. Otherwise, great review!

[@Power5]

Serious muscle memory for sure.

[@voidremoved]

1:11 that is so you can crank up the Iron Maiden

[@christianbarbera2633]

Thanks for the review, man! I'm just going to buy it in next days! I used to have Hotas X, but this looks like something much more different and better! Thank you.

[@FPV_Viking]

No needless u boxing you sir deserve a medal

[@Jakster840]

After Blu Games' review and your review, i'm buying this right now. It's going to be so much better than my Hotas X. Thank you!

[@wee6838]

I have the 3D pro and I just ordered this for my throttle so I don’t have to use the throttle anymore till I can afford to start making mg setup more advanced lol

[@raymatton7564]

I am using for DCS the CH Pro Throttle , with a ton of hats , 4 way switches and castles. And my CH Fighter Stick is a replica of the F16s stick. Mid 90s era I bought these used but was in mint condition. Lately I have been looking at the Thrustmaster T.16000M , not sure why I seem intrigued. I watched your video on use within DCS , and for me I cant see how I would benefit from it since the stick is lacking 4 way hats and castles . Then there is the issue of re mapping all the keybinds all over again , as I own every DCS module thats alot of mapping. For example the A10C has a ton of controls and I just had enough with my CH Hotas , but with this Thrustmaster its hard to see if it would even be possible to use in DCS , The throttle does seem to have more hats and 4 ways I guess thats a plus.

[@Jabbers]

This is more for ppl looking to get into swimming on a budget,sounds like you already have good gear for it

[@sebyypopescu8061]

Is a rudder really that much of a life saver? i found 2 packs one with and one without and i want to know if i should spend 300-350 dollars for a joystick throttle and a rudder or just a joystick and a throttle for like 200-100 dollars.

[@Jabbers]

Depends on game and what you are flying... If it's ww2/cold wat stuff then yes, rudder is better, especially if you want the immersion. Most games have settings to auto rudder in flight sooo really its about what you want your Sim experience to be

[@carlesmr1835]

Thanks for the review!

[@talex001]

I could not agree more - I have this and the NEW logitech x56 and this setup is just better, especially in a game you can use a shist button (I play Elite: Dangerous) so I don't even need the stick base buttons. The button placement is just where they should be unlike the X56 and the twist is much better... especially when looking at price it cannot be beat.

[@jmcaes32112]

Simple straight to the point and informative... perfect!!

[@notalcapone5957]

Your video as helped me make my mind up on getting the T16000M and then one day get a $900 setup lol

[@claudemiropacheco]

So, I got mine 7 months ago, and yesterday the Z-AXIS went nuts. I was able to open and clean it up, but I'm afraid the issue will be back soon. That wasn't a good sign for me. I would expect problems after maybe 2 years, not 7 months where I'm not even a heavy user. I work my days, and use this thing no more than 2 hours/day, and the z-axis is the least used for flight sims. Let's see how long it will last.

[@jimmehjiimmeehh9748]

Z axis on mine was fine (though I never used it thanks to the paddles), the mini throttle on the base of the joystick died at some point however, it gave nothing but false inputs and would often zero out when moved.

[@InjectorGadget]

Finally, someone actually USING the product, in a product review video... Most just talk about it and never use it. Thank you!

[@ryanm.191]

What’s the deadzone like? I don’t want to drop that kind of money and find out it has a deadzone more than a couple of degrees each way. Smaller deadzone is better to me

[@carlesmr1835]

Also, 3 people wanted to see the unboxing.

[@hughheli]

Hi there i see you you tube about the T16000 and TWC throttle, I just get in to this items, how do i Mix to together ? Thanks

[@CrisURace]

the little axis on the stick i'd use for prop planes pitch control or smth like that, i guess

[@acdcdave1387]

Excellent video my friend, I just ordered this same stick and throttle combo to replace my Logitech Extreme 3D which is really worn out. I can't wait to try this out.

[@chocken4867]

hows your thrustmaster

[@minhalraza8791]

genuinely good review thank you!

[@pythonxz]

"...I wasn't full grasping how many buttons it has, and that's actually quite nice." I see what you did there.

[@Jabbers]

I actually didn’t but that’s pretty funny!

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

Landing gear and flaps are better on the keyboard. Otherwise it's a waste of buttons. As for the paddle rudder...I don't recommend playing one of these flight sims WITHOUT the pedals. It's more immersive and realistic to have the pedals.

[@dundun92]

I just got the TWCS throttle from the set a couple of weeks ago :). Next will be the stick, to replace my E3D Pro.

[@Try_n_2Tri]

Like the use of inset video showing the HOTAS...

[@SargeantKoranFlusher]

Yeah....do more. Let's see a video of the T16000m landing an F18 on a carrier deck.

[@craigdavies4682]

Its a great stick, my only beef with it is the spring tension on the stick is over done. I fly a lot of ww1 stuff in Rise of Flight and constantly needing to push the stick forward to arrest the natural climb gets tiresome after a few hours. I can be mitigated slightly in the response curves but stuff that doesn't have any kind of trim is quite uncomfortable to fly after a short while. Whilst it is plastic its comfortable to fly with but more suited to more modern era that comes with the added wonder of elevator trim. Its very accurate and robust. Other thing I don't like about it is the stick is very short.

[@zsavage1820]

When I push my throttle slowly .. it jitters and sticks I wish they had made it a lever type instead of the slider.. I will have to get some lithium grease and try that

[@MrTailspinstu]

good video....I like the sharpness as I fly in VR

[@CrisURace]

OG god i want thos for DCS so much...i have my old Thrustmaster Afterburner 2......... :)) but need a lot of dead zones...poor thin is like 14 years old..

[@King2Stone]

The box must be pissed it's lacking serious screen-time.

[@Evolutionist199]

Very nice work!

[@n00bl0r14n]

I have the "older" model of the joystick T.16000M V1 it says on the bottom and it got green led instead and looks less modern. I was wondering I saw the orange go on/off under the stick and mine does the same, I bought mine used so I tought it was some loose connection and didn't mind but your does the same, is it a feature of some kind? All-in-all great video, now I'm going to buy the throttle module for mine ^^

[@Cult1022]

Two complaints about this setup; Throttle gets sticky with time. Nyogel 767a solves that. not enough buttons on the stick. 2 hats and a pinky would be nice, then this could blow a lot of other sticks out of the water.

[@gamestv4875]

I want the throttle only.Looks good.

[@fudgeexplosion]

Only issue i have with mine is the paddle axis on the throttle is jittery around center, and i use it for zoom so sometimes my camera is FREAKING OUT and i cant stop it without hammering on it...

[@JohnDoe-qj5ik]

Thinking of upgrading to this from an Extreme 3D Pro, mostly for Freespace 2. Do they hold up for a while? 3D Pros used to work for at least a year, but the more recent ones keep crapping out after a few months; either the twist axis keeps pulling right or the buttons stop working. I'm hoping this HOTAS would be more durable. I'm a bit concerned about the number of buttons, though. I know you could theoretically use the throttle's hats for an additional 16 buttons (though realistically I think it's more like 12, because I doubt I could reliably hit the diagonals on the 8-way hat as a single, discrete button press), but it seems like that might be a bit awkward. I know there are also a ton of buttons on the base, but I tend not to use those.

[@MetalMatt2510]

How are you looking around the cockpit @7:25 ? is that a head tracker?

[@Jabbers]

TrackIR

[@jentehoi9397]

should i buy the one with pedals when its 120 bucks more expensive, or should I buy the one for 130 bucks with a throttle and stick?

[@Cole.Varial]

DO MORE OF THIS (also start streaming again)

[@Jabbers]

:) life got in the way of streaming, work and family stuff, hopefully within the next couple weeks

[@Cole.Varial]

don't worry, life comes first. DCS will always be there in the end. I've been pretty busy with school as well which has been holding me back from DCS. Now I just have to decide if I want to pass the course or learn the hornet

[@Angus_Gibson]

Maybe the slider on the bottom could be used for vertical trim? I'm new to DCS, so Idk.

[@Power5]

Hat switch on stick is usually what people use for trim. This is how it is in most real jets. Unfortunate that the stick has so few buttons. If it had a thumb button and a pinky switch, I would have bought this setup already. Not sure why they cannot make a plastic version of their warthog stick and put it on this setup. I would pay a little bit more for the setup if that was the case. Call it a poor mans warthog.

[@FlyingAce1016]

thinking of picking this up any good ideas for what to use all the hats for? im used to having just one lol two I could see for camera and one for trim but 4 or more? o_o

[@Jabbers]

Depends on the plane

[@MatJan86]

There is also a version with ruder pedals. Would that be a good choice to? It would be slightly cheaper for me as the company I work for sells only the triple combo(joystick, throttle, and pedals). Normally I'd go for just 2. They do sell them separately. Throttle and joystick that is. Mind you I live in Poland so the price has to be divided by current exchange rate to get US dollars(or most other currencies). 249 USD for triple. 180 USD for two. I'm sort of asking for a hint. I've been thinking to get something solid with separate throttle that can be upgraded with pedals too. So far I have cheap ok stick but it is showing signs of its cheapness.

[@jackwebb5917]

I don’t know if you have reviewed it, but how would you compare this to the Logitech X56? Do you know if TM has fixed the sticking gimbal on the warthog ? I watched your video of how to fix it and although it was a great video for those that already spent the money on one, I can’t see myself spending almost a weeks wages for something that needs to be torn down to fix something the manufacturer should have remedied a long time ago!

[@stealthtomcat4739]

Thanks for the information

[@cintula82]

The problem with the joystick is that the RX axis dies whithin 6 months of NON intensive usage.

[@blasterml]

The full afterburner strafing is not the best way to accuracy i think. But nice review. Thumbs up for you :)

[@connorjohnston730]

I'd love to see a video on how to setup and configure things, tweaking settings is the thing I struggle the most with.

[@Jabbers]

Tweaking what settings? I plugged it in and just bound the buttons to actions in DCS, no tweaking

[@connorjohnston730]

Jabbers oh right, I've been trying to tweak it using the TARGET software that comes with it, no idea what the sensitivity curves should look like

[@Jabbers]

Oh ya i dont use that garbage sorry. I tried for about 10 minutes and said nevermind. I just do it all through DCS, and I rarely ever use curves.

[@W4lkerWings]

Jabbers it might have been worth mentioning your opinion of TARGET in the video. Yes, this is a HARDWARE review, and as you correctly state, programming functions in DCS are better handled in-game, but many users will choose to use TM's programming - which could potentially spoil their enjoyment, if they never read the comments. I have the TWCS and TFRP pedals and they are a huge improvement over my 20 year-old TM Cougar HOTAS and Elite pedals. I have the option of plugging the pedals into the throttle where they become an extension of it but that removes the functionality of the rocker lever. It's a pity TM didn't see fit to send you the full HOTAS rig to test. The only reason I don't & won't use a T1600 stick is the lack of buttons compared with the Cougar handle. In any case I plan to replace the ageing Cougar stick with a Virpil Gunfighter later this year.

[@vnyggi621]

Stuart Walker the gunfighter is from vkb, the virpil stick is called mongoose I think

[@timewaster504]

Tried the X-52, sold it, bought a T.16000m and never looked back

[@goldi1012]

I know this is an old video, but is this HOTAS along with Track IR enough to play DCS World? Or other hardware is required? Thanks

[@slow9573]

I've had this hotas (and the rudder pedals) for about 2 or 3 years. Recently mounted them to my chair for extra comfort. Jabbers is absolutely right about the quality of the sensitivity of the stick, it is very very good for the price point. The hat at the top of the stick is good, and the buttons at the top are meh. I wish the stick replicated one of the actual fighter jet sticks as opposed to this custom design, because if it had the layout of the F-16, A-10, F-18... any of them, then I'd keep it forever. The buttons on the base of the flight stick are also useful, but not under stress as they aren't the easiest to tell apart from one another. The hardware inside the stick that makes it rotate gums up a bit, and there are videos out there of how to open it up, but in my experience over 3 years of use, if you use a teflon silicone lube and put a couple small drops on the guard that the stick goes through, then rotate the stick around, the lube will travel around the guard and get into the gimbal (or whatever its called) and lube the necessary parts. The throttle is very awesome but it does require the occasional touch of silicone lube along the rails under the plastic. I didn't open it up or anything. Just dab some lube onto a q-tip and run along the rails. Very very small amount of lube makes the throttle glide with very little resistance. The amount of buttons on the throttle, and given that the throttle layout somewhat mimicks a combination of f-18 and f-14, makes it difficult for me to want to ever give it up (i set my hotas up to match the real jet control scheme as closely as possible). I am intending on upgrading to the Rhino hotas, but I want to echo jabbers that if you can't go straight to Rhino or Warthog, you should get this hotas and you'll be absolutely satisfied with it, and you can "compete" with guys who have way more expensive set ups. Also, in 3 years of regular use (maybe 1,000 hours), not a single part of either the stick or the throttle has broken. As long as you fly with gentle, smooth inputs (watch how jabbers moves his stick and throttle) then you shouldn't have any trouble with quality. Not shown in the video, but the matching rudder pedals from Thrustmaster are awful. I wish I bought ch product pedals instead, or saved up money when it was available to buy higher quality pedals. The TWCS rudder pedals have serious friction resistance issues and they do not lube well AT ALL. There's too many cheap clamps attached to the rails.

[@thebiggestoneyouveverhad]

For the price, there is no better HOTAS. Hall effect accuracy. The analog TDC stick on the throttle is spot-on. The integrated rudder pedals on the throttle blew me away. I can't believe anyone hasn't thought of this before. Putting the stick and throttle together gives you 9 analog axis to program!!! You can't even get that from the Warthog HOTAS!!!!

[@Yakovlev_Norris]

Thrustmaster has actually done the rocker-axis on the back of the throttle on the T-Flight X HOTAS and it's newer versions

[@davefloyd9443]

@Zaphod Beeblebrox -This is not a new idea, my old X45 has a rocker under the throttle, grip it's about 10 years old!

[@raymatton7564]

not enough hats and castles on the stick , how in the world would you manage F16 or A10 , DMS up, down , left , right ... TMS up , down , left , right. Nice stick but you need many 4 way switches to manage these systems

[@ferryblue2206]

Hello. How do you steer the machine on the ground?

[@neilrautenbach96]

Did you have to change the sensitivity on your stick, or do you just use stock sens?

[@lpblewis]

The throttle looks alot like the one from an F/A-18... Should I get one to fly the hornet or should I not bother and keep using my Warthog?

[@BeetjeVreemd]

why do you use the rudder like that with the paddles? I thought that with this joystick you can use the joystick itself for the rudder? You can twist it left and right, right?

[@Jabbers]

Just illustrating usage, up to you how you wanna do it

[@BeetjeVreemd]

@@Jabbers Ok, so you can use the rudder by twisting it left and right. The way you did it made me doubt if this joystick could do that. I'm looking for a new joystick but i need one where you can use the rudder by twisting the joystick/your wrist. That's why i felt like double checking if this joystick could do that.

[@antongazaryan2532]

I have this setup, but I want to upgrade stick, and buy warthog (just stick). Is it the way I should go? Thx

[@eriknpf1]

Good review. Thanks

[@dylanandlennon6327]

Can you review the X-56 please?

[@Superiority.mindset]

What do you use for looking around? Do you have a Headset of some sort? Nice Review, thank you. I've been enjoying your content and want to buy DCS too but it's so hard that I'm scared of having a bad time. I tried some DCS clone mods in ArmA 3, like the A10 with all interior buttons and stuff. Felt great even bringing the Aircraft in the air because you need actual knowledge and there is simply more to it than pressing "w".

[@Jabbers]

I use trackir

[@ElGrecoDaGeek]

I use the z-axis on the joystick as my rudder. At least until I can splurge from some quality rudder pedals like the MFG Crosswinds. Question, on my throttle it seems to bind a lot. Ie the movement isn't very smooth always. Was much better at first but within 2 hours it seemed to chatter (not noise, feel). How is yours?

[@Jabbers]

Mine seems fine, did you touch the metal slides? Perhaps the grease came off?

[@ElGrecoDaGeek]

The metal slides are on the inside (the outer rails are just decoration) so that's a no go on touching. I tried to take a peak and I can't quite tell if they were lax on the grease. To be clear it's not sticking it just "chatters" binds a little. If I press down it does better. It may be that the adjustment needs to be fine tuned but I like the current amount of resistance so I'll tweak it a little and see how that does. I may RMA it and see how that goes. Thanks!

[@KillerKev1961]

What head tracker are you using? Can I use the oculus 2 headset only, or do I also need the controllers??

[@Jabbers]

Trackir and joystick is recommended

[@rwhunt99]

After all that, I am in the market for a new HOTAS, I currently have a Saitek X-52. I was thinking about the Logitek (former Saitek) X-56, or this TMaster T.16000. between the two which should I get, I am not sure if you have tried the X-56, I checked your You tube vault, I didn't see anything . I've heard mixed reviews about them with quality issues and they say the latest ones are better. Interested because I don't have rudder pedals and I don't have a big budget.

[@lobo3695]

I have read that the saitek x52 is better than the thrustmaster 16000

[@alphalunamare]

You switched hands like a pianist to handle the gear and flaps ... would it not be better to map them to the throttle?

[@Jabbers]

U can map them to whatever works for you

[@alphalunamare]

@@Jabbers Fair Point :-)

[@EagleFulcrum1]

Hi Jabbers, how are you? I would like to ask you something about the Mig-21 (now that is discounted) and a generic thing on DCS, if i can. Where i can do it (maybe not in a review video if you don't want) ?

[@Jabbers]

Discord is probably best discord.gg/ZnkvumS

[@PhenixRyze]

This is probably a very stupid question. I have never used flight controls but I really want to get into them for Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous. How do you move your camera around while using flight controls? Clearly you need to be able to change your personal vantage point

[@Jabbers]

You would use the keyboard or buttons on the controllers, alternatively you can get something like trackir or delan clip that attaches to your head and mimics movement

[@LocovsworldNL]

Lol yes, i literally have a Logitech 3d pro and I am looking for the next thing :) bang on.

[@lobo3695]

Could you please make a video of air to air refueling with this joystick?, thanks.

[@FrancescoVenturelli]

nice review. But what about all the failures that are reported?

[@Jabbers]

I didn't have any? All products have issues here and there and depending on usage, joysticks are typically abused, left to sit, or sometimes just give out.... I have had plenty that do. I didn't have any issues with this unit, but it's also no my daily stick, I used it for a couple weeks and did the review.... Long term usage would have to be a different video or based on other customer feedback as you have obviously checked and found out. It's time to use that big boy brain and come to your own conclusion 😉

[@dbvetter7485]

Does the joystick twist for rudder control? I don’t want to buy rudder pedals.

[@Jabbers]

Yes

[@Matiz69]

Hi, how did you configured your controls? I cant bind that left right for rudder, throttle goes inverted, even if I select inverted in options it does not change.. when I tesed it in windows controls everything works good..

[@Ropetor]

YES i bought the mig 21 and the t16k fcs like 2 weeks ago where did you put the brake on?

[@Jabbers]

I don't recall exactly, but i would put it on the foward and aft middle hat on the throttle (basically where its thumb accessible) if I were to attempt it now.

[@pilotguy1141]

I just got my first gaming PC and bought the same exact controller for DCs. I can't figure out how to set up all the buttons and it's frustrating me.

[@gaglug2897]

There's plenty of tutorials on the web and on KZbin if you just google for "DCS control binding"

[@ВасилШекеримов-щ3м]

Which button do you programmed to move the point of view?🤔

[@Jabbers]

I use trackir