I love how you make videos on these more low power pc's rather then just filming ryzen 9's and other powerful pc's all the time like other channels
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too, otherwise I would be broke by now haha
@Fly_By_Gaming2 жыл бұрын
You should really check out random gaming hd for more low budget builds.
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍
@averyoldYoutubeuser2 жыл бұрын
That's why I'm here to enjoy
@Theutmostgeek2 жыл бұрын
@@Fly_By_Gaming yeah hes pretty good too
@Simulate1NinetyNine2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I always love seeing old tech come to life!
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@luhgarlicbread2 жыл бұрын
I think if you debloated Windows the processor might have performed a little better. Glad to see you got the machine to post, Nice video
@jdo2482 жыл бұрын
Really glad to see this working. As you said, the possibilities are endless here with this being standard ATX.
@tatercrisp71862 жыл бұрын
I love how chill vibe this all is
@SoftBlade72 жыл бұрын
To be honest your videos are amazing! Continue your work!
@Classy_Car2 жыл бұрын
Hey man! I'm loving your content. I think you're really underrated for the effort and work that goes into your videos!
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks!
@vgamesx12 жыл бұрын
Well here's a suggestion, the self-hosted password manager bitwarden, it's intended for business use, so it has fairly high system requirements, so the unofficial vaultwarden server is better for home users. I switched to it a year ago when LastPass announced that free versions would be limited to only desktop or mobile devices, never both, they also went on to discontinue email support for free users, neither of those things were a dealbreaker for me, but they were making it clear the direction they were heading, no concern for any user who isn't paying while simultaneously jacking up the prices, but ignoring that, bitwarden + cloudflare has been great, in someways better than LP.
@grimacedabassguy2 жыл бұрын
another great video, glad to see that one running! looking forward to seeing what you do with it!
@Yolofolks2 жыл бұрын
Truenas sever will be great on that board You can also use it to run pfsense. Just add some more compatible ethernet cards and you're off. Btw adding some sata dom (ssd) storage (for os) and using a pico psu will keep the power consumption and the overall footprint of the pc smaller. Great vid, hopefull this idea helps
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@sageosaka2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing what you do with this!
@giannis_kapelakos2 жыл бұрын
Man I was so hopefull about this little pc. Thank God ddr3l worked
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Me too! Haha
@namesurname46662 жыл бұрын
i discovered this channel 24 hours ago, nice to find this video i was waiting for
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Good timing haha
@SonicPower2 жыл бұрын
fun fact this video saved me from buying the wrong type of ram when i was upgrading my laptop i double checked if my laptop's memory was ddr3l, and it was i was about to order regular ddr3 memory, but didn't so thank you!
@JamieTheEnby2 жыл бұрын
Your vid actually inspired me to turn my 4,1 dual cpu Mac Pro into a NAS using unraid. It also serves as a Minecraft and Plex server. 14TB in total 3,6TB drives and 2 1TB drives with room for expansion with 1 parity drive.
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah, that sounds awesome!
@JamieTheEnby2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven they’re great machines if you look locally. I got mine for 200 bucks off of Facebook marketplace. Just be aware if you want to get the latest Mojave update you have to manually upgrade the firmware and get a amd 400/500 series gpu for it to work.
@yukaira2 жыл бұрын
first ive seen of your channel, this is great stuff! subbed
@alejandroglfm2 жыл бұрын
Loving your content man!!
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! And thanks!
@mstudiotech12482 жыл бұрын
I like to work on old computer, so this what you work is exelent!
@syndicate79292 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching smaller channels with great quality content - like yours!
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@FatheredPuma812 жыл бұрын
"Because this board features a few x1 PCIe slots-" Me: "Graphics card!" "We can add in some SATA cards, network cards, and much more." Graphics card relegated to "much more."
@duncan512 жыл бұрын
This was great! Can't wait to see you turn it into a NAS.
@anurbanpenguin88902 жыл бұрын
Trial and error, the best way to learn about PC's tbh. Especially when able to work with older / inexpensive hardware.
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Very true
@NebulaHatesWatchdog2 жыл бұрын
You should make an Odysee account, it automatically syncs videos and is on the blockchain so you don’t have to worry about youtube thanos snapping your content. I would love to see your channel on there.
@TheAverageJoystick Жыл бұрын
If you want to go the Windows route consider using the LTSC branch, its more lightweight for lower end machines
@mariusberger32972 жыл бұрын
one of my first "modern" computers was powered by a J2900, I remember 10 year old me being very pleased about finally being able to play minecraft at more than 20fps
@hanro502 жыл бұрын
From working at a computer shop. I've learnt that motherboards that take DDR3 RAM can be delightfully picky about which ram they'll actually post with. Sometimes they'll straight up refuse to post, other times they'll refuse to even recognise it in some extreme cases. Generally I like to remove the ram completely and check for the "missing ram" beep code.
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Good to know that that’s actually a useful troubleshooting method. Thanks!
@hanro502 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven np. Generally removing the ram and listening for the beep code can give you an indication that the CPU is actually executing bios code. Just note that some M/B don't beep if they don't contain ram or don't come with beepers. Other rare reasons for a M/B not to boot is corrupted CMOS settings. It's rare, but it does happen occasionally.
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@Zebra_Paw2 жыл бұрын
I am thinking that a such low power CPU can run fanless. That can be a night PC. When it's nighttime sounds feel much higher, and a fan noise even small can be really annoying. So with that computer you can enjoy some KZbin without it. I am able to run Windows 11 + 720P60 KZbin smoothly on a Celeron N2840. This definitely is the best that CPU can do, my Core 2 Duo T9300 is noticeably faster, but it shows that your Pentium should be able to do much more.
@grahamleiper15382 жыл бұрын
HP did similar ATX powered AMD APU boards (at least in Europe) that are also DDR3L only. Got an A4 5000 and another A6 board that both need DDR3L and they're not even using SODIMMs. (Was looking for something as an always on remote access PC for connecting to my home network, CCTV etc, and these boards are low power, not TOO slow, and ridiculously cheap now)
@mafiakangkung2 жыл бұрын
Fun to watch btw 🥺 I enjoy this video with tea 😀
@SpicyPillOwO10 ай бұрын
Great video, the possibilities are infinite for server usage with this type of motherboards . You could have used a FCPGA946 motherboard, you can replace processors (i3 3rd/4th gen) and still get more pcie lanes and more performance
@alfonsomier51142 жыл бұрын
Nice way to reuse this motherboard. I once had a laptop that used DDR3L memory and it was a nightmare to get the right RAM. Almost everyone where I lived only sold DDR3 memory. 👍🏻
@HoloScope2 жыл бұрын
Lol yes ddr3 is 1.35 and ddr3 is 1.5 This is a big issue with laptops being donated because they always put the wrong ram in their laptops. Btw You can put DDR3L in a DDR3 system, but you can't put DDR3 in a DDR3L system, but I'm sure you know that.
@kevinkusman20812 жыл бұрын
pfsense/opnsense machine right after the ISP's router.... low power draw but powerful enough for a small to medium enterprise network usage.... perfect for home use... and might as well run local dns hosting and pi hole on top of all of that.... taking your home networking to the next level without any worries...
@VinkDaniel2 жыл бұрын
Working in desktop/laptop support for about 22 years now, and the low voltage RAM was completely new for me too.
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha okay I feel a little better
@ferrarisrex22332 жыл бұрын
This is the best way to start a day.
@NinjaISwill2 жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! But I’m just glad other people are smarter than I am haha
@darunealbane2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven wisdom of the crowd (as long as you ignore the screamers)
@putraadriansyah80822 жыл бұрын
Minecraft Java Edition server + Nextcloud + samba (for local network only) in one machine?
@KiraSlith2 жыл бұрын
With the port selection this'd be an ideal Windows XP machine, having an old PCI slot means you can get proper hardware MIDI even.
@DeathMetalDerf2 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how many of my friends have bought a system off the shelf similar to this one with the intent of upgrading down the road, only to find out they bought a laptop computer that someone crammed into a desktop case.
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a bummer.. but it's not necessarily a bad product. It's just bad for gaming haha
@mafiakangkung2 жыл бұрын
Last video so much about compability with ddr3 and ddr3l so much fun to watch 😀
@adaxax15322 жыл бұрын
Idea for next video (if you don't have one already): passive PC for everyday use (not for gaming but Internet, some programs, KZbin), low powered but mid-performamce. Just idea. Or a proper NAS build made of this MoBo. But do what you want, great videos and great channel.
@r_owbot2 жыл бұрын
nice video! i think my cpu is better than the j2 something something something and i suggest maybe use a the pc for like backup if ur disk runs out of space.
@megan_alnico2 жыл бұрын
If any of those motherboards have gigabit networking I would suggest getting a second network card and building yourself your own network router. I used pfSense and It wasn't much more difficult than installing Linux on something like the Raspberry pi. I've got it blocking ads at the router level which is pretty cool, but you can also push all of your traffic for your entire network over a VPN. I think a 10 watt TDP would be perfect for this type of application.
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Definitely something I'd like to try out! I just had a 2.5 Gigabit card come in, so we'll see if I can find the time to get to it. That's the real struggle right now haha
@intothewild07072 жыл бұрын
For some weird reason old budget tech excites me more.
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Same
@Vex227782 жыл бұрын
Same
@ElectronicInspiration2 жыл бұрын
6:19 wow a desktop with an external psu? that is strange!
@TheUrbandilema2 жыл бұрын
Again hardware u did gave a older pc a new life instead of being scrapped or destroyed...ur vids really have made appreciate older hardware...keep up the good work n see u in the next video..btw your intro song did u made it your self?the one titled haven
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that! And yes I made the intro music 👍🏻
@TheUrbandilema2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven where to get this stuff..are u on Spotify or have a separate channel
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
No I can put it on SoundCloud or something maybe
@matthewday75652 жыл бұрын
Ask one of the big youtubers for one of their "lucky box" GPUs and then chop mod it or open back mod the 1x slot, there may be a tiny bit more CPU performance if the graphics are not using the RAM - though probably not what you want if its going to be a power economical server
@mrawesomelemons2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how this would do as a Pfsense/OPNsense box.
@soggydoggy60182 жыл бұрын
Heya! I had the same motherboard as well as the same problem! Nice👍
@hannes40692 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a Web Server? Would love to see you set one up :)
@BetaMaster22 жыл бұрын
you love to see youtube comments actually being useful
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
I hope this channel continues to be a place where that's common haha
@larrysrandomness32372 жыл бұрын
Use that PCI Slot. There are still gigabit Ethernet cards for PCI slots out there. Also some SATA RAID cards, however, those tend to be SATA 1. Truenas wants 16gb of memory minimum, so you may need a upgrade there. But I could see this board being a better high speed router with PFSense and a couple of 2.5gbps network cards.
@Kara_Kay_Eschel2 жыл бұрын
I say if you get some kind of sata card for it and us it as a NAS.
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
In the works 👍🏻
@MUSiCK9 Жыл бұрын
I never thought I see someone else with that oem case! Got a hand me down Compaq computer that has the exact case but with different specs though I think I remember it was worse then the one in this video. Wanted to reuse it but the whole thing is riveted, Even the dvd drive..So I had to drill it out just so I can use my own spare parts in it. I found a new hate for computer cases like these.
@Di3mondDud32 жыл бұрын
Those low end amd apus are infinitely better cuz the gpu runs laps around intels low end. And older stuff really does run fine, think 2000s, need for speed most wanted, underground 2, etc. Still a great time.
@markowens54462 жыл бұрын
That should turn in to a great NAS.
@plasmar12 жыл бұрын
in a general sense, the pros over intel you will/would find in AMD based low tdp is that usually they are not limited in features; for example although I don't think anyone would be crazy enough to do it(except maybe a youtuber) it's quite possible to do 7 gamers 1 cpu on a Athlon II 160u amd even though it is a 1.8ghz single core am3 cpu where usually on an Intel equivalent it would quite possibly not even feature VT support or have some other limiting factor(intel tends to disable or bottleneck features depending on cpu class far more often than AMD does; **I've tried the passthrough on a 160u but not in this torture scenario :P)
@JoaoCarlos-df1zw2 жыл бұрын
Oh, he really get it a video titled ' youtube fixed motherboard '
@darkphotographer2 жыл бұрын
you could use it as nas or pfsence , or torrent box , or all of them with virtualization ,
@matteoferrara20012 жыл бұрын
Love this low tdp motherboard 😃
@RandomDude9892 жыл бұрын
Think it will do Plex? How about record some network IP cameras?
@birdpump2 жыл бұрын
Old PC, but performance and expand ability compared to a RaspberryPi is amazing.
@bayupran2 жыл бұрын
I did a similar mistake with my Intel NUC, bought ddr3 instead of ddr3l. But I was able to resold the ddr3 for a profit (+$1 after fees), so that's a win in my book lol.
@jaivaswani18172 жыл бұрын
Hey, If I want to buy a low powered processor like the one here, where can I get a list of low powered cpus, or what should I search for? Whenever I visit a used hardware website, all I see are i3s 5s and 7s and the ryzens. Nothing low powered like the ones you find.
@wngimageanddesign9546 Жыл бұрын
Would make for a good platform for a pfSense router as well. A nice low-power motherboard with 4 cores @ 2.7GHz max.
@HardwareHaven Жыл бұрын
For sure!
@manuel.dignani2 жыл бұрын
My ProBook 450 G4 with an i7 7500U has a TDP of 15w. I mean for a laptop 15w is nothing. But for a desktop is the power that an HDD needs to spin
@billmilligan17052 жыл бұрын
I applaud your brave decision to install Windows 10 but you will struggle to give it away unless you put windows 11 on it. I totally agree with you that many Americans would struggle with the confusion that is Linux, especially OpenSuSE. How about trying out BeOS that will get the most out of the hardware? It should be fun
@supercool_saiyan56702 жыл бұрын
it will probably be more wanted with windows 10 as apposed to windows 11
@Lpiam312 жыл бұрын
i would love to see it emulate since the raspi isnt the best for emulation
@David_Phantom2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how well it will handle software RAID? Unless you plan to get a RAID controller for it. If you want a PCIe card but you can't find any that are x1, don't let that stop you! Just don't try to cut, melt or otherwise alter the PCIe slot. Instead, get a PCIe riser for it. But replace the USB cable it comes with. There's nothing special about those A to A usb cables, so you don't need to worry about them being wired weirdly. The reason you should replace the cable, if you end up getting a riser, is because the cables that come with them are generally bad and fail easily. I use a riser with my ASRock d1800b-itx motherboard with a replaced usb cable and it works fine. Though, the PCIe slot is already only Gen 2, so there is performance left behind. I don't know if you board is Gen2 or Gen3, but either way, a riser is not a bad option.
@kjjustinXD2 жыл бұрын
i really like to messs around with those low end boards. im the World record holder in Overclocking the Atom 330 ^^
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Dang. Impressive
@deyx182 жыл бұрын
Cut the pci e end and stick a low power gpu and try casual gaming. Curious to see how a 20w cpu would handle some games with a decent gpu
@AlpineTheHusky2 жыл бұрын
The external PSU of the AMD system is most likely way more efficient fyi as it is not as "overpowered" as the Intel systems PSU
@SummonerArthur2 жыл бұрын
Yeeah! I was right! I'm so glad this thing actually works, but I have no Idea what you could use it for, since you already have a NAS. I wonder if it would be better at decoding/streaming if you were to use a newer gpu on it.
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
True! And I have a NAS but I think I eventually want something a bit better and bigger, so this might be perfect
@Hittingman2 жыл бұрын
Cut out the end of one of the 1x PCI-E slots and install a graphics card. Could make for a very good video transcoder.
@stephanb59452 жыл бұрын
Can you try a x1 to x16 riser on this motherboard with a graphics card ??? Can you also try emulation ???
@LoafManiac2 жыл бұрын
that ddr3l memory is literally faster than what i have on my pc.
@kunkeypander62932 жыл бұрын
Try turning into a router and compare it by stress testing it with an avg household router
@92_miata2 жыл бұрын
3:39 i have this exact computer. Thats crazy.
@prayforzed51832 жыл бұрын
Hey, your theme musics give me a really good vibe for a long working day, where can i find it ? love to listen a full version
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
I REALLY need to post it some where.. hold on haha
@prayforzed51832 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven as a developer, your music and video really brought me back to the 199s - 2000 era when i was a kid and try to learn how to install windows 2000 on family's computer...
@13aaryan2 жыл бұрын
Perfect for a router build imo!
@Rouxenator2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! How does it play / host Xonotic? (Windows or Linux). I found a Pi4 8GB gave better performance than a J1800 / A10-9630P but on Ryzen it works best.
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Had to Google what that is, so no idea haha
@Rouxenator2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven love the game. We play it daily and I think LowSpecGamer used it a few times.
@therealtsa55912 жыл бұрын
ayye randomgaminginhd got a free shout out here from 3:30 onwards
@YouBetterCat2 жыл бұрын
Can u try running a minecraft server on one of these, maybe on Linux so the performance is better
@iknowdawae8932 жыл бұрын
low spec gamer tip: debloat your windows installation. you wont believe how much RAM and CPU time this might free up, improving performance
@josipmatic47322 жыл бұрын
At my old PC I getting blue screen randomly, I test ram, it is ok, disks are ok, cables look fine, cinebanch work fine, add 2 fans and bigger cooler, do not overheat..so it is motherboard or PSU problem...
@1steditiongamer2762 жыл бұрын
I'm curious how this performs as a NAS. I'm guessing you would not want to use this as a Plex server given then limited video.
@starion871 Жыл бұрын
Could the j2900 run on 16gb of ram? thanks
@lumibeatz27672 жыл бұрын
Add a network card and check if this pc can work with a 2 pc gaming setup
@namesurname46662 жыл бұрын
would be interesting to see how these low power cpu compare to a phone/android box/arm pc in power usage
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Could be a fun video
@NeedlessTv_2 жыл бұрын
This would be great for pfsense
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have a question as I am trying to use an old machine like yours as a server. These old machines can be really loud. If I try to put it out of sight computer cannot see wireless. How do you deal with noise?
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
I would avoid wireless at all costs. It you can run wired Ethernet from your router/switch, that’s ideal. You can buy some flat Ethernet cables that can tuck under trim/rugs pretty well if you don’t want to run anything in the walls. And if that’s not possible, you can also look into a thing called power line Ethernet. Basically it uses your outlets and electrical wiring as a wired connection. Not as good as CAT5e, but better than wifi! I’d also make sure it’s cleaned out well and maybe check if you can adjust fan curve settings in the bios
2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven I know power line ethernet adapters. I can give it a try, nice idea. It is the $3 psu which makes the noise. Cpu fan is actually quiet. I have 2 nonworking 750w psu. If you plan to share psu repair videos, you have a viewer here:)
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
@ I doubt I'm qualified haha
@aespe2 жыл бұрын
very low wattage usage, should be great for NAS
@typeer2 жыл бұрын
good to know ty
@mangoduckhead2 жыл бұрын
I have had problems with a pc that uses exactly that motherboard , it would overheat for no reason .
@robjustice6731 Жыл бұрын
I have a Dell XPS 2710 All in one that won't post at all. After reading around, I am fairly certain that I have the "black screen of death" allegedly caused by upgrading from Win8 to Win10. I have worked on it periodically over the last few years, but can't figure it out. Anyone willing to help?
@MTN16012 жыл бұрын
My dell 7559 gaming laptop said only support ddr3l too
@nickname69762 жыл бұрын
Can you put in a gpu in this pc?
@igormehandziski10682 жыл бұрын
I have an unused 8GB DDR3L stick of RAM with 1600 MHz so if you want it we can work something out
@HardwareHaven2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this cpu doesn’t support anything higher than 8GB total, so 4x2 is ideal. Thanks though!
@MikeD77752 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking a good video would be something kind of similar to this, but someone that tries to find the most powerful PC that can run off of USB 5v power. As I was thinking a PC like this would be good without AC power available and only having a low power usage machine in an emergency situation where you only have access to at most like 5v via a portable cheaper battery bank that doesn't usually supply 12v+ or being able to use similar things that are used for usually only phones and such? I know things with USBC have made things a bit more difficult as USBC can usually accept a wide range of voltages and things but from what I usually see is that most usually accept at minimum 9v-12v to actually power/charge machines. I know Raspberry Pis and such run off 5v but I am meaning things like x86 windows based machines.
@neongenesis29792 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, I bought the same MOBO on ebay for $15 w/8GB of Ram, got a PCIe 1x to 16x adapter for $12, and plugged in my cheap R5 340x I got for $18. There's another $5 HP 250w PSU on Amazon too (There's still some left..wink wink). So for $50 it plays Minecraft and can Web Browse.