HARLEY-DAVIDSON LIVEWIRE & ZERO SR/F featuring CHARLEY BOORMAN | FULLY CHARGED

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We've wanted to cover electric motorbikes for some time now and in this episode have struck gold with two of the best bikes reviewed by two of the best riders.
Charley Boorman is no stranger to epic motorbike journeys, most recently on a Harley-Davidson Livewire with Ewan McGregor in their Long Way Up adventure. Now with an electric Harley of his own he runs us through the features of this magnificent bike as he rides it through the beautiful Surrey Hills.
Also a long-time motorbike fan, Andy Torbet takes out the impressive Zero SR/F bike, very kindly loaned to us by English Electric Motor Company, to see how it stacks up against the Harley.
Which would you choose?
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SUBSCRIBE, LIKE & SHARE to support FULLY CHARGED! We've wanted to cover electric motorbikes for some time now and in this episode have struck gold with two of the best bikes reviewed by two of the best riders. Charley Boorman is no stranger to epic motorbike journeys, most recently on a Harley-Davidson Livewire with Ewan McGregor in their Long Way Up adventure. Now with an electric Harley of his own he runs us through the features of this magnificent bike as he rides it through the beautiful Surrey Hills. Also a long-time motorbike fan, Andy Torbet takes out the impressive Zero SR/F bike, very kindly loaned to us by English Electric Motor Company, to see how it stacks up against the Harley. Which would you choose? English Electric Motor Company www.englishelectricmotorco.com/ Make sure you are subscribed then enter 'The Great EV Giveaway' for your chance to win an EV for a year and lots of other fantastic prizes fullycharged.show/EV-Giveaway/ Fully Charged is 100% independent thanks to KZbin Memberships and Patreons. Without you this channel wouldn’t be possible! If you’d like to help support the Fully Charged channel and its mission: Become a Patreon: www.patreon.com/FullyChargedShow Become a KZbin member: use JOIN button above Subscribe to Fully Charged & the Fully Charged PLUS channels Buy the Fully Charged Guide to Electric Vehicles & Clean Energy : buff.ly/2GybGt0 Browse the Fully Charged store: shop.fullycharged.show/ Visit our LIVE exhibitions in the UK, USA & Europe: FullyCharged.Show/events Subscribe for episode alerts and the Fully Charged newsletter: fullycharged.show/zap-sign-up/ Visit: FullyCharged.Show Find us on Twitter: twitter.com/fullychargedshw Follow us on Instagram: instagram.com/fullychargedshow

[@accesser]

I could listen to Charley talking about anything, please get him on for any topics you can

[@LTVoyager]

I still choose neither. I ride long distances and often cover 500+ miles per day and ride to places like Alaska, Newfoundland and such and EVs just aren’t yet practical for that mission. Maybe some day…

[@o.s.t]

It is awesome to have a bike going arround without the noise of the combustion and the exaust, but please for the next vid if someone is riding and talking about the quiet and the feel of a electric bike please remove the piano music. Having Charley talk about the feeling of the road, being able to listen to the cars that pass him by, the always present piano chirp in background, but not the road trepidation is off putting. @19:00 it seemed to have done rigth, one could ear the wirling of the engine and even a bit of the road, but then at @21:00 ish there's the piano again. Other than that, great vid and a really great job as always, keep up the good work...

[@adsheff]

Great video. It would be great to see some range tests for these like Car Wow do. All those remote pubs that bikers stop at would do well to install banks of chargers in their car parks for these - they'll be getting more popular very soon. Are combustion bike included in the ICE ban?

[@nomoreheroes93]

Great video guys, this the first review I've seen in a while on FC that matched the Jonny Smith era

[@ivartillotson835]

I ride a 2016 Zero S and love it. Get on, put in the key, safety checks, go. No oil levels, choke, warmup, worry of overheating in rush-hour traffic. Prior to the Zero I rode old BMW R-bikes and a modern Bonneville, all great rides, and the Zero is a very different experience. At a stop sign all is quiet, sometimes I linger a moment listening to the surroundings and being a part of that place, not just someone passing through on a cloud of noise and exhaust. Five years of refinement can only make the newest Zeros a more satisfying experience.

[@hawedehre]

Sold. I’ll order a Sondors Metacycle instead of a Honda CB.

[@whatsstefon]

I wish. A shame they were here in Australia so briefly. I think there’s literally only one person who bought one.

[@gmy33]

@@whatsstefon luckily .. they offer no service if you have problems with your bike . and sooner or later you will be shocked by their non service .. their bikes are great though !!! dsrx is spot on !!

[@whatsstefon]

@@gmy33 I use to work as a bike mechanic. I fear very little shocks me at all. Lol

[@gmy33]

@@whatsstefon i ll take that bett ..!! Become a zero dealer and talk to me after 6 months ... yeah selling new bikes is fun but the flood of people that come to you with rheir older broken zero s and the amount if time you ll spend on the phone and in frustration will leave you limp and longing for the good old day s ... ( and yes i m quoting a once happy motorbike guy that became a zero dealer 6 months ago)

[@soyuppy]

More bikes and Charley? Yes please!

[@AdventuresonZero]

Charley is great! Love his perspectives on riding and electric vehicles

[@SpottedCreeper]

I've owned a Zero SR/F since Nov 2019 and have utterly loved it. Use it for my daily commute (30 miles each way) which is a mixture of urban and dual carriageway riding. I've got charge points at work so I can charge there if needed although the SR/F easily gets me to work and back on a single charge even if I'm in sport mode the whole way. A few things I've learned. 1) For taller riders you can get a higher seat and also the SR/S footpegs fit the SR/F, these sit lower than the SR/F's which give you more legroom. I'm 6 foot (1m84cm) and I'd recommend those changes for anyone my height (or taller). 2) The best I've ever managed is 109 miles on a charge but that was ECO mode the whole time and very little over 50mph (80kmh) - realistically you're looking at between 70-90 miles. 3) I know Charlie recommended getting the extra charge tank for the SR/F but think hard about that option as the storage area is really really useful (which you lose if you add the charge tank). I can fit my charging cable, a bike lock, my pack lunch, and a thin waterproof top in there. Obviously the decision will be if you need the extra range the charge tank gives you but don't just add it by default if you're ordering one. 4) Zero should fit LED indicators by default on this bike. It's a + £20,000 cool futuristic bike and I'm still using old school bulbs in my turn signals!! You can buy LED indicators as an optional extra but I think they should be standard on a bike of this price level 5) The rear hugger is utterly useless. It needs to be longer as it does very little to protect the rear section of the bike. A longer one wouldn't look as cool but once you've owned it a few months and you realise how much dirt is getting flicked up you'd prefer a better hugger 6) I disagree with Charlie on throttle response, I find mine absolutely as smooth as silk. Sure, in Sport mode it is very responsive and if you're not ready it will really snap your head back but I haven't found it an issue at all. I will add that I haven't had the pleasure of riding a LiveWire so maybe that's smoother still? 7) Cruise control implementation on the SR/F is really poor. The button to activate and set cruise is on the right-hand side and just a littttle bit too far away so you have to streeetch your thumb to reach it. It's a small issue but I notice it daily as a section of my commute is average speed camera so cruise control is useful for those bits. 8) Traction control is really good on the SR/F. It has 100% saved me on two occasions when I was overzealous in slightly damp conditions. Without TC i would have certainly been in a hedge. 9) Filtering is really easy, the low down weight makes it a doddle to handle at slow speeds as you thread through a traffic jam. 10) They're still too expensive. The LiveWire is still waaaay out of my reach and the SR/F was only just in reach after a lot of saving and tweaking of budgets. I hope they get cheaper soon as it is a true barrier to many riders. 11) I've had ICE bikes all my life (am 42 now) but when I test rode the SR/F I knew it was the bike for me. I love it. Even if you're not thinking of buying one I really recommend getting a test ride just to experience the torque and smoothness of power delivery. Also thanks Fully Charged and Charlie for the review, nice to hear your thoughts.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

The more I ride my Zero SRS, the more I love it! People's aggressive comments against these things make me smile, bless them. 😂

[@MrChrisWorkman]

Same here although I get a lot of positive comments here in South West England.

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

Same thing happened when the motorcar/motorcycle supplanted the horse a century ago. Most people are afraid of the new. Some embrace it.

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

@Ben Daulton Power and energy are different things. EVs have about the same range as fossil fuel vehicles. Most people drive fewer than 40 miles a day, so range is not an issue for most people. The Tesla Plaid Model S has 1020 horsepower at a price about 1/5 as much as the nearest fossil car with that kind of power. Regarding the efficiency of internal combustion engine, most on the road are about 20% efficient and after more than 100 years, they haven't really cracked into a majority of the energy lost because it's not physically possible. Thermal efficiency of engines is something physics understands pretty well. The laws of physics are not really possible to overcome. EVs are more than 80% efficient and most new electric generation is wind and solar because it simply costs less than coal and nuclear today. Energy density in liquid fuels is an advantage right now. It's possible to power jet aircraft with non-fossil fuels such as biofuels, fuels made from CO2 from the atmosphere and water, etc. Long term, fossil fuels are dead.

[@stevenb7319]

I’m so glad to see Charlie back. When he did his first video with Fully Charged and asked to be invited back I was excited to see the next one with him. Also it’s interesting that both of the riders in this video love to ride but both have very beat up knees and hips and still maintain their enthusiasm.

[@sunpwrd]

One of the many benefits of e-bikes is that we can launch hard off the line without drawing attention from law enforcement. Doing that on a loud bike ensures police will look your way, and that increases the chance you'll get pulled over. I get to play a lot more without causing harm to others with noise or pollution. I'm on my 6th Zero, currently riding an SR/S.

[@philtucker1224]

Hi Paul, can I ask why have you used six bikes during a (relatively) short development period? Where

[@sunpwrd]

@@philtucker1224 It's a fair question. Short story is, I was frugal in my youth, managed to have a decent retirement fund going when Tesla went public. i'd been following them since the Eberhardt days and had my own RAV4 EV powered by sunshine, so I knew the endgame was EV/PV. When they went public, I got a nice pile of shares. This enabled me to indulge in the Vectrix (google it), then got my first Zero in 2012. When they would come out with an appreciably faster one, I traded up. I could afford it, and I wanted to get some lower priced used Zeros out there to help the brand. It's an awesome bike. The more people see them, the more they get normalized. I ride in the Los Angeles region. Mostly Pacific Coast Hwy and the Santa Monica Mountains. It's the perfect transportation for a dry, warm climate. Especially one that allows lane splitting. Go anywhere and park for free. Rush hour barely bothers you.

[@rngalston]

@@sunpwrd Your reasoning and experience gives cred to my current endeavors to invest in sEV's, namely the Aptera brand, thanks!

[@AdventuresonZero]

@@sunpwrd Nice! Have you ever been tempted to go with the HD? I have a DSR at the moment and love it! Although I am tempted to pick up either an SR/F or a Livewire - slightly inclined towards the SR/F at the moment.

[@sunpwrd]

@@AdventuresonZero No, not tempted to get a Harley. While I love that they are seriously going toward electrification, I really hate their ICE bikes with a passion. They are the epitome of loud bikes, and many HD riders like to install super loud pipes and ruin the peace and quiet of thousands of people every time they ride. So, I won't be helping them by buying one of their products. My Zeros have all been great fun, and I hope they continue to improve the product so we can get more ICE riders off their noisy, smelly bikes.

[@keyserxx]

I really enjoyed Long Way Up and the electric bikes and Rivian prototypes. I'm tempted to at least give an emotorbike a try one day for a possible commute bike.

[@Nikenik2001]

Always lovely watching Charley driving and talking bikes. :)

[@googadisbeotches9360]

Favorite part is sounding like a RC car going down the road.

[@itsmebillo]

So fun seeing Charlie Boorman on the show. I loved all the Long Way shows, they are so great.

[@davidsmith6859]

Wow. I got a huge rush of nostalgia when I saw Charley. I've followed every adventure of his with Ewan with absolute passion and found myself grinning at the screen when Charley came on.

[@darkmunk1]

arrrrhhhhgggg! that damn music! It's electric; beautiful subtle sound; I want to hear it!

[@thearab59]

I detest noisy motorbikes. This is progress, EVERY way you look at it.

[@Milkshakman]

But how will the poor owners capture everyone’s attention without an obnoxiously loud engine?!

[@jeffjames3111]

I think there's some sort of inverse scale going on - the louder the bike the smaller the pee pee.

[@sahilsagwekar]

I feel like I won't miss the engine on a moto as much as I would on a car

[@adsheff]

Very much agree.

[@metricstormtrooper]

And cars.

[@tlong9812]

I love this video. Obsessed with the livewire. Particularly the new livewire one. Im new to riding. And can’t wait to get my hands on one. The film long way up was truly inspiring. This looks like complete joy. Thanks for the in depth video.

[@Shah_creates]

I test rode both the Livewire and the Zero . Loved them both, but the Livewire just felt *slightly* better

[@peterelivewire]

The Livewire is my first EV and Charley and Ewan riding them was a big inspiration for that. I love Fully Charged so I'm very happy this!

[@tonynorfolk5750]

Awesome video, surprising how long this Harley has been around now. Well done Andy and keep sharing your input Charlie...Spot on!

[@Kyle-gq7tk]

Really great seeing Charley! I loved all the long way documentaries. Charley really has me considering an Ebike. Thanks for the great review.

[@someoneneintown]

Having Charley on the show is simply awesome!

[@AlexBJSmithsChannel]

Where's Energica in this review, guys? Considerably bigger batteries at approx the price of the Zero. I've just got one and love it! (Also sold by English Electric)

[@RedBatteryHead]

Correct. Got one too. It's the best of both. Although I really dig the Harley style.

[@tribsa7503]

True Alex, but by the time you up the Energica to full spec, which most I think would want to do, the price is way ahead of the Zero, by quite a few thousand £. I wanted an Energica, but can get a Premium or upgraded Zero SR/F or SR/S for around £16.5k. Also, the Energica is considerably heavier. A pity as it’s a good looking bike too.

[@RedBatteryHead]

@@tribsa7503 that's no comparison. Energica is standard Brembo and marzocchi. What is better than the Zero gear The upgrades are Ohlings and carbon stuff. They are not necessarily needed. Zero's need tank extender or charge extender to match Energica basic specs.

[@vfr800ch]

unfortunately, the price gap between electric motorcycles and fossil fueled bikes is even worse than cars, and not one single mainstream (bar, perhaps Harley, if you count them as mainstream..) bike manufacturer is making any attempt to make an affordable electric motorbike which is just scandalous, does the 2030 cutoff for no more combustion engined vehicles not apply to them also? I'd love an Energica Eva Ribelle but the price is so far beyond eye-watering in comparison, say, to a Ducati Streetfighter that no normal mortal can afford. I refuse to buy any more ICE vehicles new, so it's very frustrating. At least in the scooter market there are some decent & expanding options at the small end..Piaggio One or Niu here I come..

[@RedBatteryHead]

@@vfr800ch the "city runner" bikes are within reach. There are several in the 125-250cc as comparison. Zero starts the lowest and it's like a 500. The high end bikes are the same in price as the high end 1000-1200. It will take some years before Triumph launches it's EV. De Japanese are still debating. And their first bikes will also be city runners with shared technology. The market they target is just not the same as Energica, Harley and zero .

[@hiddengrousefarm]

Excellent episode as always. Really happy to see the EV motorcycles coming out. I'm not a rider but I won't miss the noise at all. It would be a lot more British if the motorcycles had sidecars occupied by an English Bulldog.

[@JohnDoe-bd5sz]

As a rider i can tell you that for many people it is all about the noise and the rumbling from the engine.

[@kleincamper]

I am a rider and i will not miss the noise at all too. I like the idea of stealth riding wherever i want and not annoying anybody in doing so.

[@hiddengrousefarm]

@@JohnDoe-bd5sz I understand that but for a lot of non-riders the noise is annoying and interrupts what they are doing. You can have the rumble but put a muffler on it.

[@JohnDoe-bd5sz]

There are also a lot of things that annoy me. 1. Recreational cyclists (Tour De France wannabee's) that ride in 3 rows on country roads, making it difficult to pass. 2. The smoke from the neighboor's wood stove that is totally not needed as we have district heating coming from a centralized heating plant, so he can literally just turn on his radiators. 3. The dog, 2 houses down, that barks at all times of the day, for no apparant reason other than it is bored. 4. Seagull's doing tapdancing on my roof and downlight window, early in the morning. 5. The loud kids having fun in the street and gardens in my neighborhood. If we ban everything that would annoy someone, i bet life would very quickly be very boring. I suggest that the main problem today is not the stuff that annoys people, but instead people have become very egocentric and can not tolerate anything, if it is not something they themselves do.

[@hiddengrousefarm]

@@JohnDoe-bd5sz So sorry that I triggered you. There is a designated Big Boy Safe Space at your nearest Harley Davidson dealer and owner service center. You can spend an hour going vrooom vroooom for a very reasonable price. Everyone around will look and act impressed with your noise and you will feel much better.

[@patrickjr11]

Two impossibly cool bikes. The whole EV thing just gets better and better. Looks like Newlands Corner will need to invest in some type two chargers now.

[@Angeloflight444]

That’s a mighty fine episode and both these gentlemen are enjoying their machines. 🙂

[@notyouraveragebikes4316]

Great to see some electric bike content on the channel. More needed ;)

[@TheDoubleBee]

4:32 - "Charley-Davidson" 😂

[@axelotl86]

My XSR 900 doesn't have much more range. With more fastchargers for longer tours and lower prices (~10K€), this could get a huge boost in the future. I'm currently transitioning to an electric car (ID.3) and could myself see on an electric bike in the future. Awesome to see Charley in this video.

[@steffenjachnow8176]

This is like from some sci-fi movies I have seen in the past. Absolutely cool!

[@dennisnl7125]

Don't forget the Energica, for the moment they seem better compared too both HD and Zero.

[@metricstormtrooper]

I'd even prefer a Good to a Harley Davidson. They should join the likes of Studibaker and Bricklin and just Disappear, the only decent bikes they've ever sold were Aermacci's.

[@mrknowitalllearned]

I wish they would make a cruiser version of these bikes. i own a Zero DS and love it.

[@sustainablematje]

Where are the Energica's? Best electric bikes on the market by far!

[@MikeCarden]

I'm a male, hetero, Charley-aged lover of big motos and I think these two sexy bikes promoted by these two sexy men is the PERFECT way for my PATREON support of FullyCharged to be spent. Well done all of you.

[@koitorob]

Charley should really get a letter C made up and add it to the name on the tank. Tank? lol

[@markthomasson5077]

Soon all bikers cafes will have fast chargers. Range anxiety becomes enjoyable coffee stops

[@DonkeyRhubarb21]

Something I never even thought of. Here's hoping!

[@spitfire18]

Charley is such a legend, apparently hasn't changed at all since "Long Way Round". He (and Ewan) is/are the reason why I got my drivers license for the big bikes. Much love from Germany!

[@craigoneill4504]

Great video! Great bikes the pair of them, the Harley would be my choice. I've had multiple bikes in my time, including Harley's. It's definitely the new era in bikes! More videos with Charley please, he's so EV enthusiastic.

[@DarranGange]

Charley is in his element on Fully Charged. More please.

[@NewZeroland]

Sweeeeet!!! But please please please do Energica next!

[@rogermckenzie2711]

When a Harley Davidson rider starts criticizing other bikes for being old fashioned....

[@CARfariPark]

Beautiful cinematography and the "Charley Davidson" quote wasn't lost on me. Superb as always FC 👌🏻

[@pnblondon1087]

Lots of good stuff in this but it was somewhat lop-sided insofar as we saw Charley riding the Zero, and commenting on it, but we never saw Andy on the LiveWire, and he barely even mentioned that he'd ridden it! Also, you should have mentioned that while the H-D has rapid Type 3 charging, it doesn't have Type 2, the most common and cheapest form of non-domestic charging, whereas the Zero does. And, with the optional extra Power Tank, the Zero would have a significantly bigger capacity and range than the H-D (18kWh vs 15.5kWh), not the same. As standard it already has nearly the same size battery capacity as the LiveWire (14.4 vs 15.5kWh). Now you need to get a pair of Energicas in the mix, including at least one with their 20kWh option!

[@stevenb7319]

Hahaha! Get em! It’s great to see someone educating them selves on the specs and data then using it to make well informed comments.

[@OrlandoRick]

21.5 kWh on the Energica, if you are being specific. ;-)

[@pnblondon1087]

@@OrlandoRick Thanks, I stand corrected!

[@pnblondon1087]

@@stevenb7319 To be fair, I've been riding Zeroes since 2009, Energicas since 2013 and rode the LiveWire prototype in 2015. Long before any of that, I tested an electric motorcycle in 1998 and I've ridden a greater variety of electric PTWs than most people, from Quantyas to Peraves Monotracers and Brammos to Vectrixes and BMWs!

[@Pbaust]

I was waiting for Charley to do a wheelie.

[@annekecornee]

Nearly impossible on these bikes. Because of the weight of the battery and the electronically controlled acceleration

[@euruproktos1278]

@@annekecornee he does quite a few in Long Way Up; not impossible, just politically incorrect on this kind of show.

[@RedBatteryHead]

Nice bike item. You should have included Energica too. It's so Fast with CCS that it trumps both. Also more quality for the price of a Zero. They can also set riding mode and regen mode sperately.

[@evotrike]

I love my srf such a fun bike, amazing torque 190nm from go to gone ,all ways makes me smile and thats wots its about for me .100-110 miles and all for a £1

[@two4charge404]

Do you guys not get Energicas in the UK? Swear I had seen some... but it seems you haven't heard of them. Longer range, faster charging, lower cost than the Harley. Kind of how Tesla is to electric cars (hopefully you heard of Tesla though). Good stuff!

[@AdventuresonZero]

This was an exceptional video! I own a Zero DSR and create digital content: very much appreciate the level of production and design that went into this video. Great representation of the performance of the machines and by far the best 'comparison' video I've seen to date. I can sense the amount of respect each rider had for their vehicles - and love seeing Charlie on a Livewire. Superb video, again. Thank you for making this. Earned a subscriber, like and notifications are ON!

[@Tazman55x]

I would love to see a comparison vs the new Energica e bike with the bigger battery. They claim over 200 miles of range.

[@annekecornee]

In city driving that is. Because it is heavier and more powerful, it is less efficient than the Zero.

[@Tazman55x]

@@annekecornee hmm... Let's do the math, because weight doesn't matter when talking about wh/Mi with EVs. The Energica has a 21.5kWh battery pack with a claimed range of 249 miles. A Zero SRS has a battery pack of 14.4kWh with a claimed range of 161 miles. The Energica has an efficiency of 86 wh/Mi, and the Zero SRS has an efficiency of 89 wh/Mi. Soo... No, you're wrong.

[@annekecornee]

@@Tazman55x Why doesn't weight matter in efficiency? A heavier vehicle needs more energy to get to and maintain a certain speed than a lighter vehicle. You're talking about theoretical numbers. There are plenty of videos of tests in practice.

[@annekecornee]

@ALCLCF I ride the Zero SR/S

[@alaneasthope2357]

What a fantastic video. It was a pleasure to listen to two knowledgeble people discussing and comparing these bikes. Charlie really knows his stuff, and I love the whine of those motors compared to the deafening roar of their fossil fuelled cousins (I know a lot of enthusiasts love that roar).

[@philtucker1224]

(Especially during the summer months when people tend to have their windows open during the night) for every enthusiast that loves the screaming roar of “performance “ petrol motorcycles, there is probably a hundred people that a frightened and distressed by them.

[@Miata822]

I have an SR/F. It is crazy fun around town. I really look forward to seeing the Triumph electric bike now in development.

[@vfr800ch]

That will no doubt be made in Thailand like all their other bikes..

[@igordemetriusalencar5861]

Awesome material, as always Fully Charged!!!!

[@philtucker1224]

When our children and grandchildren are adults, they will be able to open their bedroom windows at night without fear of being woken by screaming exhaust sounds from racing motorbikes (and cars) in the middle of the night 👍😊

[@voongnz]

I think a hybrid motorcycle would be the right bike right now in the transition forward. Efficiency and range.

[@MrAdopado]

Not feasible at all unfortunately. There's barely room for one engine/drive train without having to incorporate two ... and the technical complication that goes with it.

[@kimw200blaze4]

Kawasaki are working on that right now.

[@DustinDriver]

So funny to hear "it's very heavy" about the Livewire. It's 20 pounds lighter than my CB1100! 🤣

[@manueljlstadelmann]

Fabulous video! You guys should check out the Finnish Start-up "verge motorcycle" and bring the review to us!!! They will be at the good wood festival in the UK next week!!!

[@rounakmukherjee1009]

The starting of the video is giving vibes like the Tron:Legacy movie. Awesome start.

[@nickieredshaw7835]

Thanks for another great video!! Loved a long way up ! And love evs it’s so much better in a lot or ways ! It’s good to see that ev trills are as good on 2 wheels as 4 !

[@TheRealJPAdventures]

Great episode!! love it. Now I want to ride one to check it out, just haven’t rode a motor bike yet. Oh, well.

[@markmuir7338]

I got a Zero SR in 2014. I didn't even have a motorcycle license when I bought it! Electric bikes are a great introduction - just be careful with the power for the first few months until you gain experience.

[@pinkelephants1421]

As a non bike rider, I'm curious to know if as you get older, does riding an electric bike equate to a more comfortable, enjoyable ride? You know, minus the vibrations of an ICE bike - especially if you have dodgy knees & or hips?

[@paulmessikommer4027]

Alta Redshift, Energica Ego, Damon HyperSport... sick bikes !! Please, test them! HD LiveWire is great though

[@jeffjames3111]

The louder the bike, the smaller the pee pee. Noisy bikes are a menace in urban environments.

[@adsheff]

And in the countryside

[@mcrkon]

No wheelies? Come on, Charlie!

[@GONAVYCHIEF]

Very nice video. Thank you. I'm going to buy the Zero

[@ryanzacsanders]

always so crazy seeing people riding on the "wrong" side..

[@AdventuresonZero]

I don't think I could drive across the pond!

[@mattrowe6394]

Thank you for the quality content, the wait for motorcycle content has been a long time coming but the video content more than makes up or it! Thank you sooo much... May this be the start of more please. May be EEMC would be a good next step?

[@mattrowe6394]

Energica's next? We had 2 amazing bikes from the U.S here, time for a little something special from Europe, Italy, Moderna!!🤘

[@ecodweeb]

Was it intentional to exclude the Italians by only looking at American electric motorcycles? Energica beats both of them in virtually any metric you throw out. Why not discussion of them?

[@nomoreheroes93]

I doubt it, give them time and enjoy this video as it is

[@djiembefola]

I like the whiny "silent" sounds of e-bikes and e-cars. I live near an intersection in a beautiful rural setting. Every year the noise from the morons with their V8 cars and trucks, not to mention the scores of Harleys gets worse and worse. I'm excited about a quieter future.

[@Riley_1955]

I like a quieter future myself......And you can equate what you said to firearms as well by letting people use silencers on their guns which lowers the report immensely....But then you have the idiots that think everybody will become military snipers or something if they put a silencer on their gun.

[@tlong9812]

Great video. Both killer bikes. Got my eye on the new livewire one

[@ramblerandy2397]

Saw this on Twitter. Thought the announcement of 5pm was for tomorrow [Friday]. Whoopee, not so. EDIT: Charley very sweetly excuses himself for not being sure of the tag-line. Of course you're going to use that take. And did Andy say Charley Davidson at one point. It never occurred to me that Charley and Harley were just one letter different.

[@markthomasson5077]

Yup, I picked that up…..how could he have ridden anything else

[@eaaeeeea]

I wonder if they can integrate the electric motor into the back wheel at some point to significantly simplify the design and give much more room for a bigger battery.

[@tbohn10]

Check out the verge

[@tonybarton3746]

About time they made an electric Charley Davidson brilliant 😊😊👍

[@GrahamRead101]

Great episode, I don’t even ride bikes; but it’s interesting to see other forms of transport transitioning to electric.

[@stahmedpendragonguinevere2711]

Brilliant video, thank you! Great to see Charley on here!

[@Riley_1955]

Would love to have either bike but if I had my choice on the zero it would be the SR/S.

[@paulmessikommer4027]

Thx for the review, I prefer the HD! To me Zero motorcycles don't look good. Design flaw. Check Energica (motoE!) and Damon out ! Both are sick, especially Damon !

[@byroncrump4390]

Also liked the “Charlie Davidson” line

[@MrSteelAu]

thank you, very informative. keep up the good work . . .ohh by the way can you have sub-titles transulating what he said ( lol just kidding )

[@JL-tl6xz]

Love the new tag line - stick with that and name it after Charlie - what a guy ;o)

[@low-costgearbudgettour714]

Brilliant video but I’m not that well off, so I’ll start with a Sur Ron X then see where it goes from there. I live in Mongolia usually so I need off road more than on road. As Charlie knows well, in Mongolia you want a light bike unless you want to be stuck in deep mud and sand.

[@knowledgebyte]

Nice bikes. I’m waiting on BMW bringing one out. They have a scooter and it’s faster off the mark than the S1000RR. I’ve got a K1300S and won’t be shifting anytime soon until they’re nearer the 10K mark. Battery technology will make that a realistic possibility. Great show as always.

[@LeGriffon1453]

I made 14 000 kms on a Zero SR-F, and now 20 000 on an Energica. The Energica is far better. I'd like to try the HD but on paper it's less power, less battery, smaller AC charger and more expensive.

[@AdventuresonZero]

What about the Energica is better in your experience? I've been eyeing the SR/F and it seems like a great bike (I have a DSR currently)

[@LeGriffon1453]

@@AdventuresonZero first the rage the 21.5 kwh battery and the fact that the motor is way more efficient at high speed (over 100kph) . It also not over heat as easy as the Zero, never had the red battery on Energica, when I get on the Zero even by 2°C outside ! The after sales in France is also far better, and the finish / brand parts quality is better too (Brembo breaks, Ohlins suspension...). You also have better performance, more tork, more power and CCS charge. Better software (less bugs), and a Can bus that do not have 500 ms lag ! (make the bike more reactive) On the opposite the Zero is lighter.

[@fastlanediaries6593]

Think Charlie had the first C Evo BMW….way back. Great bikes I have a latest one now.

[@TassieEV]

Wish I could like this 1000x. Awesome to see both Andy & Charley and doing Electric Motorbikes together. Just need Ewan on his Zero as well and perhaps some other riders as well. Such an awesome episode not a motorbike rider but makes me want to join the select few. PLEASE have Charley on again with Andy! :) Fantastic to see he's an 'unofficial' host of Fully Charged now. All EV bikes should be reviewed by both of these guys.

[@peterandrews7676]

Excellent!

[@phillipsandusky3795]

We need a 3 way comparison with Energica included

[@StuHNomadBiker]

There's a lot more to motorcycling than commuting and local rides. Charlie should recognise this with his global travels.. I ride a GS adventure, the king of long rangers... when I fill up in the morning on tour I know I've got 350 miles under my backside without any worries of where I am or where I'm going.. Charlie says these are "so much fun to ride and that makes up for lack of range" what ??? Every bike I've ridden from being 6 years old has been "fun" to ride. Motorbikes, like fast cars are emotive things, and that emotion comes from the different noises that different configurations make, Vtwins, triples or flat twins etc ... that's why we don't all ride the same bikes, we all like different things !! EV is taking away some of that individuality .... sorry, defo not for me. For those on here saying they hate noisy bikes, well, I hate shitty noisy buses in town, trains, small aircraft flying over .. each to their own ...

[@larrywave]

For me biggest thing is range as i can drive 500 km a day with my ktm but with electric that would be hard 🤔

[@kimw200blaze4]

Well millennials and younger people are not getting into motorcycles like the older generation that I belong to. Electric motorcycles will reinvigorate the interest of future younger generations in motorcycling. I use to be like you, but I've grudgingly accepted that decarbonisation is coming to the transport sector like a "freight train". It's literally unstoppable. You'll still be able to ride your old petrol bike in 20 years, but don't expect as many petrol stations to be around for you to go touring on. And don't expect any new petrol powered bikes being sold after 2035. Kawasaki have seen the light and wont be selling any new petrol bikes from 2035. I disagree with you completely. I think electric bikes like the Energica Ribelle gives me a lot of excitement about the future of motorcycling. No petrol bike on the market today can match Ribelle's instant punchy torque. Go watch Lamb Chop's rider/review of it.

[@billsmith810]

If I could unload 3 of my old bikes (1983, 1992, 2001), I'd be up for an electric for sure but just can't justify in my head spending more on a bike than I'd barely spend on a car or truck. It's interesting that according to Charley the zero is almost as good as the HD especially since Zero has been manufacturing Electric motorcycles for quite a while now. At 70, I'm about ready to give up riding but who knows maybe I'll jump on a Livewire or an SRF for a new experience.

[@IDann1]

I love biking, I’ve had many superbikes from ninja to Bmw..I wish I could afford an electric ⚡️ bike.

[@carlmarkwyatt]

I love both these bikes and am looking forward to owning a EV motorcycle one day to run alongside my very old-fashioned and noisy Moto Guzzi.

[@Vegesaurus7]

Yes me too. I’ve got an old Honda Hornet and I hope my next bike can be electric.

[@metricstormtrooper]

Guzzi's noisy? At least they are a 90 degree v twin a the exhaust rhythm doesn't make me sick.

[@JakobKsGarage]

A non-noisy Harley Davidson is probably the best invention in a very long time! Now we just need all the remaining noisy ICE Harleys to break down.

[@obsidian....]

Edit: Just got to 20:15 and Charley mentions it 👍 I think people tend to forget that Harley Davidson bought Buell and ran it for years... So they did have their hand in some sport bikes for a while

[@59vaughn]

Movement...the new realization......surprised hd didn't develope the cruiser/std design route...to build through their design heritage ...could use part of the saddlebags as battery...

[@arnabbiswasalsodeep]

Aw man, i wish some better battery tech and efficient motors comes along for e-motorcycles. Cuz I'm the type who likes taking very long bike rides and for that the range ain't good enough yet

[@Saviosa44]

These are two lovely bikes, for wealthy people. I hope that China makes something similar for ordinary people. Have you seen the Wuling Mini EV that is of January this year the top selling EV in China? Quite possibly because of the price - $4000, key point - affordable.

[@benandrews1954]

Great Video, thank you. Still feels like electric bikes are more expensive than ice bikes in % than the same comparison to cars, but sure they will start to come down.

[@Grolsch30]

Can you do a review on the Sondors Metacyle when it’s out? 👍

[@AdamBuxton-challand]

i'd interestingly like to see what impact damage of a Livewire, Zero vs a standard 650/700 bike on a tbone with an average car! be interested to see what the damage pattern changes are with the weight change and distribution.

[@aaronbounds1336]

Electric motorcycles, just like cars, produce their own endearing noises. To the casual observer, it might seem like they make " no noise " but when you're actually on it and hear it accelerate and decelerate and put it through the twists and turns they do make their own unique set of noises. It is possible to hear the noise of the electric motor and have that take a proportional relationship to the amount of work the motor is putting out. I suppose it is true that you don't feel it in the vibratory sense because it's much more refined than bunch of tiny explosions in an internal combustion engine but nonetheless, they have their own personalities - You just have to open up to them and they will show themselves.

[@jeffjames3111]

Good points. That said I detest noisy motorcycles in urban environments, used to live next to a busyish road close to a fast bike run that half the city used to drive out to open the throttle. I get it but damn it was misery all summer.

[@CoasterRob]

Im considering getting live wire Mulholland or Del Mar here in uk but atm its looking like del mar

[@samplumbe3288]

Bring on the day when all bikes are quiet. Motorbike noise is trashing all our national parks. Saving up now to buy one.

[@peterjol]

I loved driving around on my motorbike ...but oh wow ..it was always such a feeling of relief to reach my destination and switch off the engine and stop the noise. ..an electric bike would be so much better.

[@wereyouaking]

Can I just say that leather jacket is gorgeous