Harley Davidson Shovelhead Getting a New Electronic Ignition

[@gasgas2689]

At last it is good to hear the technical advantages of dual plug ignition and electronic ignition from someone who clearly knows a lot more than just how to adjust a clutch. Lovely stuff Mike, that was a treat to watch.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@cameramanmike2072]

👍🙂

[@joehovanec1985]

We want to see you building that project bike! Thank you for all the videos and the information.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. Me too! Nothing goes as quickly as we would like. And things cost money, and what needs to be repaired gets repaired, and you fix your teeth and you smog your car and you replace tires where needed. And, oh yah, the project bike takes more time than planned.

[@bneering154]

@@pacificmike9501 i have an 81 shovel 96" stroker that is running dual coil dual plug heads single fire and this same dynatek ignition. Im told you should retard the timing about 5 degrees with dual plugs. How do you set yours? Im not sure if i can just program that in, use the stock curve 4 which is 32 degrees or set the tdc mark forward in the timing hole? Thanks in advance for any input

[@jasonallen3842]

You remind me of when I was a kid trying to build bikes .my buddies dad would let me hang out and chop bikes. He built model a &t. Your show feels like he's still here. Thank you so much. 😁

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. I'm pleased to be included in nice thoughts.

[@joshuaatkins5197]

Love the idea of running a switch for changing the timing. I might look to incorporate that somwheres else. Brilliant. Honda vtec guys eat your heart out.

[@pacificmike9501]

We can all learn from each other.

[@mikerapp8163]

Great explanation of electronic ign. Install. Thanks Mike.

[@pacificmike9501]

Glad it was helpful!

[@michaelyarmie4858]

Hey Mike good video tonight... While I was out on the road this evening about 8 or so miles from home. It started to spit a little rain. Lightning and thundering. Then the rain got a little heavier. More sky lightning. And then it started pouring so hard I had to stop. Thankfully i wasn't that far away from a gas station with a canopy over the pumps to seal some refuge . Well by the time i got home the only thing dry was a little spot on the top of my head under my helmet. Man it poured hard.. oh well that's how it goes..See you out on the road..lol.

[@pacificmike9501]

I'll see you there, but let's wish for a clear day.

[@cameramanmike2072]

👍🙂

[@keithlim6749]

Nice video Mike. I have a rebuilt 1979 80” Shovel and am running a VOES switch with a Ultima ignition. The Ultima is a Dyna module repackaged as a Ultima and cheaper. The bike is kick only with a Super E and 99% of the time starts on the first kick.Tatro Machine in San Diego rebuilt the motor and has software to program the module for kick only applications.He did his magic and as stated earlier, the bike starts 99% of the time on the first kick.The Shovel runs like a violated ape.Keep up the great work !

[@pacificmike9501]

Sounds great!.

[@kjellblomstrand2497]

Hello Mike. Thank u for xplain the electronic ignition. Once again it sounds easy when u talk about it👍. Looking forward to see more on the project bike👍. "The Swede"

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. More to come.

[@mikelandis9985]

Im new to the shovelhead world.i got an 84' fxwg shovel with some s&s parts. 93 cubic inch. Im not a mechanic at all, that is untill i noticed i was spending more times on the side of my bike rather on top enjoying my bike. So thx to you pacific mike. I am a shovel rider and mechanic.lol well not mechanic but learning.

[@pacificmike9501]

That's great. Who knows how much hidden talent you possess?

[@cameramanmike2072]

👍🙂

[@chriscollins8875]

Thanks for the videos! I recently inherited my dads old shovelhead and with a lot of help from your videos, I’ve now got her running and ready for the road.

[@pacificmike9501]

That is awesome! Thank You.

[@cameramanmike2072]

👍🙂

[@manuelrivera6873]

Good video quality and sound. Mike is very knowledgeable as a result of all his years on the Harley Davidson. His explanation concerning the hemispherical combustion chamber is very good and easy to understand why they put 2 spark plugs in each cylinder. Thank you Mike for sharing your knowledge to people like me who has not owned a Harley but can appreciate them thru you!

[@pacificmike9501]

Thanks for that!

[@MrBadgas]

Had to watch this one again since you just posted a new video to show the custom programing feature. Good stuff.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You

[@pugloverg6671]

Great explanation of spark and ignition.....

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@sylvainblaney9379]

The ultima ignition is basically the same as Dyna just rebranded under a different name,really good ignition system

[@pacificmike9501]

That's good info. I'll have to check it out.

[@chrispiazza7487]

I'm feeling your pain. I've got parts at various places for my build (a 1935 Studebaker Commander coupe) that I can't wait to get back so I can continue on. And I'm NOT getting any younger.

[@pacificmike9501]

What a great car. Nice project.

[@chrispiazza7487]

@@pacificmike9501 Thank you sir! You are welcome to stop by anytime. I'm in the City of Vernon.

[@cameramanmike2072]

👍🙂

[@pappabom1221]

Nice explanation about position of the sparkplugs, never thought much about it, and dual fire actually makes sense. I entered the world of electronic ignition on my 80" Shovel -79 this summer and I agree that I'm not totally crazy about the VOES, but it seems to work fine so far. But it was huge job to make space for it under the FatBob-tank, very, very tight. Thank you for another inspiring video.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. Glad you liked it.

[@pastorbobncc365]

Love hanging out in your garage have a blessed week my friend.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. And, you too.

[@michaelmitchell5909]

Great video Mike,....i truly enjoy any content you put out for us...thank you for what you do sir. I can't wait to see the project bike come to fruition!.....it would be a great honor to ride with you!

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. I'd like that too.

[@getoffmygrass6974]

Good evening Mr Pacific, quite a tough topic to squeeze in 15 minutes but to the point. Technology has done wonderful things for our scooters. Take care of yourself Mike

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. And, you too.

[@cameramanmike2072]

👍🙂

[@charlescastell4638]

Jeez, I love this hands-on material, and getting my hands dirty. Thanks Mike for helping me to understand more about what I am trying to do. You are the greatest1

[@pacificmike9501]

Glad to help!

[@cameramanmike2072]

👍🙂

[@dimitrisnickolas9530]

This is like a bike university! Thank you so much for doing this!

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You for "attending."

[@jeffreyfox8250]

Always great content !

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@deadheadlights]

Cheers Mike! I love the switch for the different curve. I have never seen that before. Great idea! All the best. Al

[@pacificmike9501]

Glad you like it!

[@cameramanmike2072]

👍🙂

[@zombiedog4343]

Thanks for sharing! To quote Tom Petty..."The waiting is the hardest part" look forward to seeing the parts come in for the project bike. Stay healthy!!

[@pacificmike9501]

I'm trying. You take care too.

[@cameramanmike2072]

👍🙂

[@danadiggins793]

Wow Mike that’s the most tech on an old bike I’ve seen...cool

[@pacificmike9501]

That's what happens when you buy one new and keep it forever, and use it as your "test bench."

[@roiangeloangeles729]

I had to stop cleaning my car, in order to watch my favorite man!

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@cameramanmike2072]

👍🙂

[@keithparr8880]

I didn’t know you could do new tech on the old Shovel! Super cool 😎

[@pacificmike9501]

Shovels aren't that old.

[@PanM8]

Keith Parr, you can run electronic ignition on a Panhead too. Theres a plate that drops in the stock distributor. Hotter spark and consistent. I also have put an electronic regulator on the bike. The generator doesn't work as hard now. I still have the big Delco regulator on the bike for original look. I made a plate to mount the electronic regulator under the bike. Been on there for about eleven years now.

[@cameramanmike2072]

👍🙂

[@charlesrockit6352]

Great stuff brother Mike. Ride hard ride safe be well

[@pacificmike9501]

Thanks, you too!

[@alanmcclusky]

Hello my friend I am a fan of duel plug heads I used to have a Thruxton Bonneville with a four plug head as the triumph head is one piece so good for you my friend the more efficient and quicker the burn the better so take care my friend love duel plug heads regards Alan.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. And Alan, a ride on that Triumph was probably awesome.

[@Freedomfighter916]

Great job

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@mrscrapper3331]

Too cool!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!

[@pacificmike9501]

Our pleasure!

[@alstone5257]

wow thats cool, i worked on a drag car pit crew years ago did not even have that at the time love it Harley tuner bikes

[@pacificmike9501]

I've been playing with it for quite a while. It teaches me stuff. You can try tuning differently and get immediate results, make note, then make you changes, all of it quickly. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@londonglide]

Hey Mike. Great Videos. Had a 79FLH with the original 79/80 electronic ignition. Ended up fitting a Crane hi4 single fire. Made a big difference to starting and general running. Love your videos, and enjoy watching those old sleds getting some old school care.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@LonesomeNomad137]

As usual, well done 👍🏽. My mechanic called and said my baby isn’t getting fuel ⛽️. Can’t wait for the project bike 🏍 and I can’t believe 2 people gave you a thumbs down 👎🏽, now that really blows my mind.

[@pacificmike9501]

You can't please everybody. Looking forward to the project bike myself. I still have other things to do at the saame time. So, we'll just do them all.

[@stanroberts4820]

Great information, but no more 100 mph wrecks !

[@pacificmike9501]

Message received.

[@timothyputzke1250]

Interesting show. I'm running points and condenser on a 78 shovel. Nothing even close to your ignition but it works for me. I carry a extra condenser and points in the saddle bag. You probably already know this, but in the event someone doesn't. The points for a 1960's General Motors 6 cylinder 235 cubic inch engine work well in a Harley. You do have to do a little modification using a file on the points bracket. If you purchase new points and compare to the points you took out you will see what I mean. Thank you for another great video. Keep the rubber side down and have a great 4th.

[@pacificmike9501]

You too. Thank you for your input. I carry a points plate and advance mechanism. But your input is much appreciated and I hope our viewers read what people like yourself send in.

[@The78CJ5]

Another very informative video Mike . Be Safe!

[@pacificmike9501]

Thanks, you too!

[@deanphillips8270]

Love that bike of yours, its a work of art! thanks always enjoy your videos

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@dsshowerpan]

Great videos! Lots of love from Alta Loma, CA.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. We'll meet somewhere, when the shows start happening again, Born Free, Hippy Killer, Chopperfest.

[@bghankhernandez]

Guy, girls listen to this guy. OG HD. BIKER . 👍👌. MAN THATS A VETRAN 👌😎

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. But, it's just age.

[@richchenier]

@@pacificmike9501 Age and Wisdom! Your sharing is helping me restore a shovelhead

[@richardhartley7094]

Awesome that you run technology with your classic bikes,cool guy Mike 👍🇬🇧

[@craigpennington1251]

That is a nice cool system you have. Learning all the time you have a video. Great stuff always. Thanks a bundle. Last time I heard dual plugs on a Shovel was 1977 and those guys were Bonneville bound. That bike was fast.

[@pacificmike9501]

Mine is a 77, but we didn't dual plug it until the early, early eighties.

[@craigpennington1251]

@@pacificmike9501 Was there a kit or did you just drill & tap?

[@craigpennington1251]

@@pacificmike9501 I never could fine any info on this subject then or now.

[@92xl]

Did this to my shovel 5 years ago. Have had zero ignition issues since.

[@pacificmike9501]

Yes, it's pretty nice.

[@rickeysmith3774]

Thanks Mike, I still have my plastic plug run it up to 2000 rpm and have my buddy move the points plate while I held the timing light. If I was in the hills a lot I would put the mark just a tad towards the front, good times 😎

[@pacificmike9501]

Right on

[@tarmak968]

Another great video Mike! It makes me want to buy an older bike to play on!

[@pacificmike9501]

You should!

[@clivewalker5465]

Hi Mike , You have entertained me [ and many many others ] , so , if you have the Time , a little True Tale . I also Twin Plugged my Harley in the late'80's , fast forward to about '94ish , Standing outside my Local H.D. Dealers , and a New Harely Rider was looking over my Motorcycle , and of course noticed the Twin Plug Heads . He asked me why , and I explained that Harely had to conform more and more to noise and emmisions Reg's , and , Hondas Flagship , Expensive NR750 with oval Pistons had not really caught on , and Honda had been left with shelves full of Oval Pistons , H.D. had done a deal , and I was on the Experimental Motorcycle , with Honda oval Pistons and needed two Spark Plugs . Funnier if you had been there , with my Buddies listening , and trying to keep staright faces . Hope I have not bored you too tears .

[@pacificmike9501]

I always trie to educate my customers enough to keep them from embarrasing themselves. You're a bad kid. You're just picking on this guy. I hope he gets even. You get to pick on him, but then, you gotta give him his turn.

[@ricardobooker1704]

Thank you Sir.

[@pacificmike9501]

You are most welcome.

[@Chewy-Da-Redneck]

Another educational video!! I love the ol' Shovelheads... Always have, ever since my first one (76' fxe in 2004, 79' flh custom in 2006 and a 79' fxe in 2014.. that was also my first street bike wreck). Listening to you talk about This shovelhead is overwhelmingly exciting! I know that sounds weird and kind of goofy but, I just really loved both my shovelheads. I say both as in two, because the 79 FLH Was a basket case,, I had to sell it after my motorcycle wreck to pay for medical bills. . . Anyways... I really really appreciate your knowledge and the content of your videos. 🇺🇸😎👍

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. That's very rewarding to me.

[@SWATT101]

Just had a Vulcan unit fail...I happened to have the points set up that came with the bike...fired right up. Going to run that for awhile till I remember why I switched them out in the first place lol

[@pacificmike9501]

Interesting.

[@vanislandsteve]

Great video 👍🏻

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@everettcalhoun8197]

I have run a Dyna single fire dual plug set up on a 90 inch shovel stroker with a five speed and a 22/40 tooth final drive. The bike would get almost 50 mpg on the highway with a Super B. I think I was just barely off the idle circuit at 80 mph. A single fire set up just has a very distinct sound to it but that was 30 years ago though.

[@pacificmike9501]

Sounds great!

[@drewmacmillan6954]

Great Topic , as I am just about to pull heads for weeping head gaskets and ignition up grade. On 81 shovel . ( currently points) If you were you , would you dual plug heads? Cheers! Just shoot me a thumb up or down . I bought bike new, Love It

[@pacificmike9501]

I've run dual plugs on this bike for nearly 30 years. I also run some fairly tall pistons. It works well.

[@elsdp-4560]

THANK YOU...for sharing. Fantastic contents. I got educated. Appreciate your videos.

[@pacificmike9501]

Glad you like them!

[@havegrinderwilltravel5]

Very cool vid mate love ya bike i just pick up a restore 1979 flh on friday night cant wait to start tinkering 😃

[@pacificmike9501]

Cool! Have fun!

[@1PhilHarmonic]

Thanks again for all the groovy information.

[@pacificmike9501]

Our pleasure!

[@lisar3006]

Two of my friend with shovelheads that switched to electronic ignition had a fit kick starting them after they did. One bike is stoked one wasn't. both are 1977's have you seen that yourself. I still have points in my 72 FLH and it starts very easy with the kicker.

[@pacificmike9501]

The problem is, being able to retard far enough to start easily, then being able to advance far enough to run well. There needs to be broad enough adjustment. An electric starter is much more forgiving. If a unit is programmable enough to give you enough timing choices, it's fine for kick starting.

[@lisar3006]

@@pacificmike9501 My one friend had a bum battery and the only way to start his 77 was push it. I got to say nether guy has the maintenance habits I have. Thanks

[@davidcook1166]

Mike.....I had as least two pop up add for medicare supplements. (are they trying to tell Shovel head viewers something?) The older I get the more I'm into reliability. I've ran points,electronic,and Morris mags on Shovels. (kick start,SU carb) Fact is, points always started the best of the three. (it's been said that if it isn't a good starter it ain't worth a "F")We know timing is everything and the factory FX cam also seemed to outperform even Sifton cams (starting)for me. I've ran Dyna (I like them) but a guy had better carry spare parts. Nothing wrong with points and a well cared for mechanical advance.....I like to play also!...thanks for the vid!....walt...tulsa,ok

[@pacificmike9501]

Veery Eenteresting. I do hope you're old enough for the humor. I honestly, don't know what to say. I do know that now I'm going to take my computer in for its maintenance. I pay in advance for this periodic routine. I just wish they wouldn't speak to me. They do a good job. They keep my computer working. I haven't a clue what they're talking about. Then I will stop by for my yearly blood test. I don't know what the results will mean. I know I'm fine. They'll talk over my head again. I understand my motorcycle.

[@dawg141]

Great Video!! I'm running the original Dyna S system with the mechanical advance. Love it!!!!

[@pacificmike9501]

I ran one for years and loved it. I went to this system because it came out and I had to try it. Again, this bike was my test bench for years.

[@dawg141]

@@pacificmike9501 When finally built my Shovel about 20 years ago, I first went with the Crane Hi-4, which burned out in about 2 years. Then back to points, Which reminded me of why I was excited when electronic ignitions came out. Then I went with the Dyna, and no issues since. Keep it simple, at least for me!

[@jamesnorman7552]

Thanks for another good one Mike. How about an Alternator / Generator charging system test ,? Stay safe.

[@pacificmike9501]

Those are several different tests. We'll do them as they come up. Thank You.

[@DavidEKells]

Thanks Mike

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@ricardoquijano8501]

Outstanding information.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@shanecoker8566]

Old school biker that can get the computer out to make adjustments, love it.

[@pacificmike9501]

Yah, it was difficult at first.

[@avg113s]

Top stuff as usual , I've read and watched loads of content about setting 1340 evo ignition timing , any chance of knowing your take or methods of setting up on these motors dynamic or static methods ? Lovin the videos 🙏.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. Using a stock electronic ignition in them, it's by guess or by golly. I'm a little better than that. It's trial and error. Using programmable ignitions and setting according to the manufacturer is better by far.

[@rebelking68]

Hi Mike 👋 good video ,again 👌 i have old ingnition ,with old Beetle’ s Parts on it

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. That's at least some decent Bosch parts.

[@rebelking68]

Pacific Mike , Yes , German Parts

[@jobuck893]

Great video Mike

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@markmeadows6401]

Mike, Taz sez you're good. I'm Taz, and you are good...

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@williamquire2115]

I am rideing an 83 so it is titled shovel it is a built bike aftermarket frame delcron cases I have no idea what is in side but runs as good as my old twin crap but with a lot more fun right now it is running on points and I kinda like it that way I have had an electronic on an evo go out and I was stuck but points I can work on I have had to do it on a 74 fxe I use to ride but to the point if I changed to an electronic with a single plug would it make much difference in the way it runs I think the insides are basically stock and when the bike was built the builder used some very nice parts I think he built it to ride

[@pacificmike9501]

Sounds good to me. I had an electronic ignition burn out on me in Pueblo Colorado on a Sunday morning. Poor me. I opened my tool bag ansked everyone to leave me alone for about fifteen minutes. When they came back, I had installed the points plate and advance mechanism I had in my tool bag. I fired it up and we road home to Southern California.

[@rickyricardo976]

Thanks for the video Mike. It cleared up a couple of things for me. One question I have (maybe a dumb one at that), how and what bracket did you use to mount both coils?

[@pacificmike9501]

I used Dynatek brackets for their coils.

[@Jaysutube297]

Putting in a Dyna S on my 72' XLCH and I'm at the "static timing" portion. Instructions does call for the front cylinder to be on its compression stroke. I put my "line" at the center of the inspection hole. Not the "dots". When watching your video you mentioned that the line was the rear cylinder. I was about to change it, but checked my old HD service manual titled: "Sportsters 1970 to 1978", first. There's a figure 5-19 showing the line in the middle. The description reads: Advance timing mark on flywheel for front cylinder piston 1971 and later. 40 degree BTC. Can you help me understand? I've owned this bike since 1984 and it was always a 2 kick start ......until I had the motor rebuilt. Now it's not reliable. With a kick start, that's not too good for this 62 year old vet. Hoping that going electronic is the way back to her former glory.

[@pacificmike9501]

The line is where the front cylinder should fire at full advance. Position it in the window. Remember to be sure your front cylinder is on its compression stroke. That's with the front piston coming up and both front valves closed.

[@MoeLarrycurly1]

My brand I use in my 98 Fatboy except mine is under the seat and replaces the ignition module has a basic hole switch in the cone

[@pacificmike9501]

Yep. Good stuff.

[@mikeyshoemagoo0384]

I've been waiting for this one.

[@pacificmike9501]

Good. I always hope I clear enough.

[@michaelwebb3893]

Zipper ignition is what i use.kept breaking the dyna in my stroker

[@pacificmike9501]

Cool.

[@lisar3006]

Interesting but I will stick with points and the old advance weights in my 72 FLH. They are the same as a 6 cylinder Chevy 59 to 74. I can buy them anyplace.

[@pacificmike9501]

It took me forever to try electronic ignition, then it took the people who make them forever to make them last. Then, they really got good. I run points in my old bikes and I guess I must be old , because I think of a Shovelhead Cone motor as being "modern." I never liked the cone motor advance system, although I've really studied how to manipulate it for my purposes. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I understand the attachment.

[@lisar3006]

@@pacificmike9501 I liked the distributer cap on top of the motor like my Flatheads and Panheads had and the early Shovelheads. I have never owned an early Shovelhead my 72 FLH is my only Shovel. I had four Flatheads and two pans. The bikes I wish i had never sold was my 1933 HD my 48 Indian and my 1951 61ci Panhead. I had them in the 70's and early 80s and they were around then so you don't think about not being able to afford one again even as a basket case.

[@damachine3]

First! Keep up the good work, Mike!

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. I'll try.

[@damachine3]

@@pacificmike9501 I just rode my 2019 Triumph Tiger 1200 XCA from Portland, Oregon to Bend, Oregon...via Mt. Hood. Gorgeous ride!

[@jessesmith7276]

Nice ... Thanks

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank you too!

[@tubsVR-if7rt]

👍👍👍👍right on A lot of good detail In the video.

[@pacificmike9501]

Glad you liked it!

[@loddude5706]

The Loneliness of the Long Distance Flame Front. - by Lod. 'Pity the single spark plug, in darkness, sat there fizzing, & faced with a curving landscape, to send it's flame front whizzing, far across the other side, to then push the piston down, trouble is, that while en-route, it barbeques the crown, for hydrocarbons careth not, who they scorch & damage, they'll dump their heat just getting there, it really is quite savage. (ouch, sorry) So fit a second sparky thing, to centralize the score, then instead of burning sideways, & pushing on the bore, everything lines up nice & straight, no bias to one side, for The Lady loves a linear push, it helps her pistons glide.' (I feel this is probably the point where, . . . I should just 'go & put the kettle on'. Happy trundling : )

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. You never disapoint.

[@djosephp67]

Hey Mike thanks so much for another great video... I always enjoy tuning in.. So listen I've got a question for you & I apologize if this topic has possibly bin covered in an earlier video. I'm guessing that I've watched about 75% of your content & scanned thru but I may have I may missed it.. It's about your heads & exhaust on this beauty Shovelhead.. You get a good look at about 5:34 in the video. I really like the way your set up with the four bolts instead of a single one.. Is this something you machined up yourself of is available for purchase to public kind of thing? Maybe Exhaust options with there pro's & con's of design etc could be a topic suggestion for a video in the future... Anyway if you have a minute to reply would be much appreciated.. Take care of yourself Mike.. Cheers from Dave in Canada..

[@pacificmike9501]

Dave, those are STD heads. They are very high performance and a real pleasure. To my knowledge they are not available at this time. They were produced with three bolt exhaust ports. I love that feature. Of course, you have to fab your own pipes. I think Paughco produced some drag pipes for them. They also came with dual spark plugs. Neat stuff. Cheers to you.

[@djosephp67]

Thanks for the reply @@pacificmike9501.. I guess I should've known that. I considered myself pretty lucky just to get my hands on a new set of drag pipes last summer.. Have a good one Mike..

[@tonycurtis4427]

Thank you

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@BrewCityRider]

Good stuff Mike. If you don't mind, where did you pick up your extensive knowledge on all things Harley?

[@pacificmike9501]

Nobody knows "all things Harley." It goes on forever. And there are people who have forgotten more than I will ever know. But I did grow up in a gas station in San Bernardino, California. You go to sleep to that sound growing up there. Just a love and a hunger for it. Harry Fryed and Willie Nelson did a song called "That Roar of Dirty Thunder." It pretty much explains it.

[@KAMR4]

Very interesting video Mike. Even though English is not my mother language easy to understand. Is there any information which advance curve (Ultima 53-644) is best for a 1988-883 Sportster? Would love to see a video about choosing advance curves. Sincere thanks.

[@pacificmike9501]

It's really something you need to experiment with for yourself on your machine. The Dynatek ignition I use on my Shovelhead is configured to that motor with me riding it. That's the purpose of the adjustments. Normally, when there are curves available to you, you start with the most aggressive and then go to the next milder if the first one detonates.

[@vincekelley639]

Hey Mike I like your stuff man

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@tasunko7672]

A couple of things. First, I'm looking forward to the project bike progressing. Next, did you buy dual plug heads, or did you drill and tap the existing heads??

[@pacificmike9501]

These heads I have now are STD heads and came already machined for dual plugs. The set I had before, we had a drilling fixture and did them on a drill press. I've had several sets done for other people over the years. Dave Mackie Engineering does them. Probably a lot of people do them

[@pacificmike9501]

The project bike will get going again.

[@vk7408]

@@pacificmike9501 i have a set of std heads for a pan...is the new std company still true to quality/repairs to the old std?

[@johnhnetkovsky8917]

@@vk7408 are they for sale?

[@vk7408]

@@johnhnetkovsky8917 negative

[@haroldwiser2641]

Pretty high tech stuff tonight! 🤓

[@pacificmike9501]

I hope not boring. I had to replace the module, so, that's what I talked about.

[@ajkylen]

great idea thinking about upgrading my 1995 Harley Davidson Electra glide classic I have a Crane FireBall HI - 4E Motorcycle Ignition module and I have the VOES switch and I'm running a CV Carburetor on the bike she is running great but I have had the ignition module for a number of years. and it is probably due for an upgrade after seeing your video I'm thinking about doing the same thing. any advice or changes you could recommend would be much appreciated thank you for all of your videos always look forward to watching with my wife and our dog as well.

[@pacificmike9501]

You sir, are obviously doing something right. I applaud you, your wife, and your dog. I wish all of you a Happy Thanksgiving.

[@royboy3597]

Well done, figured dual plugs were more spark / more power. But never knew why. If l ever get the fire to stop coming out my carb on 77 FLH. Might try that ignition.LOL! My points plate says made in USA. I get a kick outta that. Think I'll stick to that.

[@pacificmike9501]

So much stuff is world sourced now. The points work fine. That bike was my test bench for so long, I've tried more things on it than you can imagine. Setting the points cam dead center will make your points open evenly on both lobes of the cam. That will give you the great "potato."

[@I_am_kustom]

Cool!

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@patgrandy6375]

I have a question that's been stumping mechanics around here. I inherited a 92 dyna from my brother. When I got it front cylinder not firing. Replaced ignition timing module by the cam and the coil and plugs. After that now the front one fires but the rear one not firing now. I'm lost lol. Love your videos you are a wealth of knowledge. Thank you

[@pacificmike9501]

Sounds kinda simple, but, have you checked out the plug wires themselves? Have you tried a different ignition main module? You know, if when it was apart, could you have switched the plug wires? There's something very simple going on here. Those plug wires could be almost thirty years old, you know. When the module goes bad, not just the pickup module, but the main ignition module, they do all sorts of strange things.

[@patgrandy6375]

@@pacificmike9501 thank you for the quick response. I've been trying to look up how to check the main module. I can't find anything. Bikes are kinda new to me. So I'm learning on the fly here. Lol. Thank you.

[@pacificmike9501]

It's difficult to properly check out. Before there were so many different ones, I used to keep one on the shelf for testing purposes. I could simply change it. Trial and error gets expensive. I get it.

[@patgrandy6375]

It will be worth the cost if that's what it is to resurrect my brothers bike. Thank you very much for the super quick responses. Keep making them great videos. Have great day sir

[@pacificmike9501]

Price things out carefully. You may find an aftermarket ignition system for less money. Sorry I can't recommend brands.

[@friedrichabsmaier4802]

How did you get the dual fire? Did you drill a hole in the head yourself or is there aftermarket parts? By the way there ist no better way of doing these videos. I‘m speechless on a regular basis watching you do what you do. Keep it up!

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. These particular heads are STD's. They came already dual plugged. But, a lot of people do them My last pair of heads on this bike were dual plugged back in about 1980. They started as stock heads. Having two flame fronts makes them really nice.

[@friedrichabsmaier4802]

Thanks for the quick reply. Can you drive these with Standard Gasoline?

[@alissarobertson8840]

I prefer points over electronic ignition sensor I can buy points anyplace there are the same as 6 cylinder chevy 58 to 72.

[@pacificmike9501]

It's true. I was always a "points" guy. Then I put a high tech electronic ignition on my Shovelhead. I love it. It's superb. If it goes bad, there's a points plate in the tool bag.

[@scottbreckenridge6509]

Hi Mike, I looked for you at Long Beach, but could not find you. These masks make it hard to see who is behind them. I am rebuilding my 1966 Shovelhead right now. I am having the machine shop convert my heads to Dual Plugs. When I talked to Larry at Dynatek . He told me that I should retard my timing when I get it back together. He would not give me a recommendation on how much. I know you run a switch so you can toggle back & forth depending on where you are riding, Elevation & so on. I run a Voes on mine & a maximum of stock 35 Degrees single plug heads. I was thinking that I will need to back it off 3 to 5 degrees, dual plug heads. Also I run Torco Accelerator Octane booster in every Tank. It REALLY REALLY makes a difference! (4 oz each tank, 5 Gal) So my Octane rating is over 95 with Shell Premium. You have all the experience how much do you back off the Timing? Thanks, you are the best. I have learned sooo much from you. I like your "Common Sense Approach".

[@pacificmike9501]

I try to be consistent on things. My best result was 28 degrees. But, you're making some other changes. I don't know how much compression you're running, or how much overlap on your cam. You sound pretty resourceful and I'll be hoping to hear how you do with it.

[@scottbreckenridge6509]

@@pacificmike9501 Hi Mike, Thanks for the input. I am a Sales Rep for several companies (Cometic, JE Pistons, Wiseco etc.) . So yesterday I was in seeing John O'Keefe. He said 28 Degrees also, however that was only after I told him I was using 9 to 1 Pistons & an Andrew's B2 camshaft. Great minds think alike. So you are right on the money. I would like to send you a New Motorcycle Cometic catalog. If you want, text me your mailing address at 714-742-2821 & I will put one in the mail for you.

[@d-lowz-no9931]

Your awesome man.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@joesurfer9754]

My "Dyna S" lasted about 17 years.

[@pacificmike9501]

Yup, good stuff.

[@ricardobooker1704]

Mike I just.brought a 74 FLH, it is not.running, it has an oil.cooler mounted with a front spin on oiler filter What weight engine oil should I use and what brand, also for the transmission. Thank you Sir.

[@pacificmike9501]

Use a good modern oil. The service manual will recommend (depending on your weather) 50 wt. Harley oil. Nowdays, I run 20/50, but don't recommend brands. Transmission? A name brand motorcycle gear lube (generally, 85/140). Invest in a genuine Harley service manual. Oh yah! Congratulations!

[@mnite7991]

Mike my 2005 dyna was stolen last week and recovered.the thief installed defeat switch to start it without key, and using a separate rocker swing for starting. Can y tell me what make so I can remove it. Thanks

[@pacificmike9501]

Sorry. That is something I have not experienced. But, I'm glad you got your bike back.

[@shovelheadpec]

Mike I hate to bother u My spyke ignition module went bad I purchased a new module this one has 5 wires? Old spyke had 4 So any advice would be greatly appreciated what wires go wear new module red,white,green,blue,purple white and red to hot? Blue front cylinder? Green rear cylinder? Purple ignition? Scratching head ! Thank u like your videos I to am rehabilitating from my crash back in April

[@pacificmike9501]

I would need the manufacturer's instructions. I would Google Spyke.

[@jtmendez12]

Hi Mike great video! I like how you hooked up the VOES to a toggle switch. Could I do this with my Panhead also?

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. Well, you'd have to have an electronic ignition system with two advance curves in it.

[@madjack956]

I can't find the kit- Part# 53-646 to program the ignition anywhere. I have been running these ignitions for years in customers bikes, but they were all electric start. I need the kit to program for a kicker. Got any leads?

[@pacificmike9501]

Sure, call the factory. Look them up online and call their phone number.

[@rod4530]

Hey Mike, I note you time the ignition on the TDC mark. I run points and time the ignition using the advance mark, which is what most people I know recommend. Are we getting it wrong?

[@pacificmike9501]

You do it according to the manufacturer. Time the points according to the advance mark with the ignition at full advance. This system is set at TDC and the "brain" in there automatically advances to where it is programmed. You're not wrong.

[@rod4530]

@@pacificmike9501 Understood, yes I use the little cam locking tool - thanks Mike

[@georgejanz1313]

Hello Mike. I have a 75 super glide shovel head, stock motor. Dyna S electronic ignition. I'm stumped, how do I connect the wires to statically time it. I am using a voltmeter. I know I ground one wire but where do I connect the hot wire, so to speak. I know how to do this with a points system. But for the life of me can't figure out where to connect things with this Dyna S. Thank you in advance

[@pacificmike9501]

Follow the Dyna Directions. The little light lights up.

[@kingmontana6]

Hey Mike, love the videos. Learning a lot. Had a question for you that the rest of the commenters could help answer. I just picked up a 72 Shovelhead, Its got a super E carb and looks to be completely stock other than that. Id love to make it into a true roadworthy bike, not afraid of long road trips. Do you have any advice on upgrades or maintenance that I should begin on to Improve reliability/rideability?

[@pacificmike9501]

How is it geared? Is it turning too high an RPM level at freeway speeds? Does it get hot? What you need to do is ride it. Start with small trips first. You'll soon know what you need. It's all about you.