Harley FXR Ultima Evo 127 Tear down PT.1

[@shadetreesurgeon]

I'm glad someone is actually making a video on these engines, info on them is so scarce its almost unbelievable

[@urbanassaultmedia1543]

I agree man, I'm on the fence about building this one while its down this far or just replacing the cam and lifters then going till it blows

[@godfellas483]

I had a Torque Monster El Bruto 127. Ran great for me! I sold it after 4 years. No problems. I would go with Jim's lifters as a replacement.

[@naterockwell7735]

I have the 127 in my Softail. Upgraded 🔋 battery all balls starter gear reduction set on clutch hub along with Rivera pro clutch! Great running motor and pulls like a freight train! Nothing but smiles and miles! I’ll keep the whole lifter thing in mind when I approach the 15k miles on the clock. Btw great content!

[@rjoetting7594]

I would like to see a good review of the Ultima shovelhead, I've seen quite a few on their evolution and twin cam but little to nothing on the 98 shovelhead. I'm seriously considering getting one for my 78 flh.

[@roundupp]

I saw this guy blazing though the Great Smokey Mountains, near NC,Va, Tn, I tried to catch him on my Ultima 120 powered FXR, he only left me because he is insane.

[@urbanassaultmedia1543]

I sold that bike at the beginning of this year, it has a different owner now

[@HookOnFishingAus]

I have the same motor however my Rivero Primo transmission is toast. Engine has been trouble free. Came for the bike content, stayed for the music pumping

[@dormantmenace]

That's a evo style motor they are known for eating lifters. Because of the extreme angle they meet the cam. 15 to 30 thousand miles is what you get out of one of Harleys lifters for a aggressive to even moderate rider in one of Harleys motors quite often. Hence it's replacement by the twin cam. Literally as soon as you pulled the heads off. And i saw that evo timing cover. I was thinking ... oh don't tell me he pulled that engine for a set of lifters.

[@leathers970]

I have 200 thousand miles on my 80 inch evo.i did small head work and bigger cam not because I needed to.ive done base gaskets a few times a few stators ,that's it never broke down once.

[@johncasor9698]

my boss would of fired me if it was only a Lifter and i pulled the engine and pulled the cylinders... over a lifter... Always check the lifters first...

[@radimmitt]

I read the comments and didn’t see anyone mention going back with S&S cams, lifters and adjustable push rods. Why not?

[@brianwinters4991]

Great video , I've been waiting to hear someone's view on Ultima , now I better wash my hands .

[@theogtommygunnxxx8971]

I have the Ultima 127 I had an issue with it back in 05 when it had there Ross piston and the rear piston melted but I was doing 135 mph , but Ultima did the machine work and sent Keith black pistons to me and it’s ran fine since 👍🏻

[@thomaseverley3847]

It is nice to see some more info on the ultima engines. Especially the thrust side of that cylinder still seeing rhe hone marks after your 16,000 mile thrashing is a plus! My 124 ultima twin cam just showed up yesterday! Can't wait to get it in and started!

[@joalvarez6252]

Hows that motor working out for you right now?

[@thomaseverley3847]

@joalvarez6252 I live on utah, so it's still put away. Too much white stuff on the ground still. But it was still running very strong before I had to put it away. Thing is a freight train!

[@hybridEP3]

@@thomaseverley3847how’s it running now

[@thomaseverley3847]

@hybridEP3 well, I live in utah, and we are getting rounded with snow right now, so it's parked. I will say, the thing has been driving like a dream. Plenty of power throughout the rpm range. Very easy to drive. Doesn't skip a beat. It does however run pretty hot. Definitely needs a larger oil cooler which I'm going to be installing before the thaw this spring.

[@hybridEP3]

@@thomaseverley3847 been thinking of getting a 113” for my fxdx

[@rsbharley4766]

Great video, nice to see some long term info on the Ultima's . Thanks for sharing, Cheers

[@ajc5370]

Great video and a great band I'm glad you found the problem and it can be fixed. I honestly believe that back in the day more than say 10 years ago when Revtech was practically giving motors away that they created a lot of bad feelings in the industry of the V-Twin. The revtech motors had plenty of good and bad, and I think it's very possible that Ultima was always scrutinized because of it. They've put a lot of research and design and some fairly decent assembly and parts specifications in the Ultima motors. In my opinion they are the best option if you don't want to get into the S&S price point.

[@whatyoumakeofit6635]

I hear about more problems. From s&s engines and components, than I do about ultima stuff. Most of what I hear about ultima is people complaining that ultima is all Asian made.

[@kct9967]

I've bought these 'unassembled' before, other that some mild machining issues , it looked like they were running their tooling longer than necessary ,but parts quality was never a problem.

[@scraphaulin]

Love the music 👍 System Restore has a new fan. Thanks for beating this motor too..and being honest and unbiased! I've been looking at 127 for my paul yaffe chopper

[@urbanassaultmedia1543]

They are great musicians and people in general. Hell yah man, I plan on continuing to abuse the hell out of it haha, I was just having issues getting parts in but I should have more videos of it up soon

[@huntert374]

@@urbanassaultmedia1543 where do you get your parts from? I have a 94’ Electra glide with the 127ci and having some issues with it

[@StudioELW405]

I've heard great things about ultima motors recently. I'm eyeballing the 100ci with a 2 year warranty. I think I would have to run Jims rocker arms and lifters though.

[@dormantmenace]

Won't help much. Its the Evo's extreme lifters angle even the Harleys do this. That's why it was replaced with the twin can motor. 30 thousand is lifter replacement time. For a harlry treated nicely. If your raping it. 15-20 you should probably take a look.

[@urbanassaultmedia1543]

@@dormantmenace I think going forward after speaking with some pretty smart people I will be looking at replacements around the 15k mark on this particular motor

[@BiffBallbag]

Performance EVO engines eat up lifters, this isn't unique to Ultima. They've got wonky valve angles, you keep the oiling system up to spec and not let it get out of hand they hold together fine.

[@kennethwise7108]

What a shame, you could've just pulled the cam chest apart and addressed everything on the pinion side.

[@philynuku914]

Really enjoyed this one, pity you haven't done any more material recently.

[@gdmcneil1]

just picked up a free bike, 00 titan with the 127 ultima and ultima 5 spd tranny...guess itll be worth getting it running I'd say...thanks for your video and personal experience...keep it up brother

[@mickeywarren2316]

Definitely like your point of view brother

[@Steve_Kelly_Oak]

Is the crank ridin on Timken bearings in these things? - I have one but never needed to tear it down. Some of the new ones are advertised as having Timken mains but I don't really know about the older ones.

[@oscarb5903]

Hey dumb question but I’m thinking of building a 127ci ultima for my shit. I was wondering where do you mount the oil filter cuz my evo motor is the one with the oil filter up front.

[@urbanassaultmedia1543]

on my FXR that this motor was in, the factory location for the oil filter is under the transmission and I just reused that. On yours you can remove the filter mount off your existing engine and just bolt it to the Ultima, the case has threaded holes to accept that mount

[@oscarb5903]

What happened with this build. Do you have any plans to continue the video series or at least show what it’s like now that it’s fixed?

[@davenicholson3219]

This guy knows his stuff!👍🏻

[@urbanassaultmedia1543]

Thank you Dave, I appreciate you man

[@christophercofone1456]

Great video did u replace the lifters and were u good to go ???

[@garyhopkins6337]

I bought a 127 Ultima Elbruto quite a few years ago, it ran fantastic for 600ks and I started to get lifter noise, I limped it home about 20ks and she was rattling. Pulled the cam cover off and one of the lifters was totally destroyed, these were Jim's lifters, had the rebuilt on warranty but it cost me as they only covered parts. It got new cases, oil pump, pistons, rings, just about the whole motor., so now I would never buy Jim's anything again.From the factory it came with Jims cam followers and oil pump you would think your pretty safe, but no.

[@Jeefster-is8xl]

Nice one mate, great video.

[@jamesburke7905]

thanks for the video. nothing wrong their lifter a know replacement item on evos.

[@longboardalways]

When is part 2?

[@richgenovese120]

How is the 127 in traffic and around town as far as heat? Im trying to decide on a 113, 127 or 131

[@radimmitt]

I have the 127 on a softail. Which Cam/lifter set do you recommend?

[@mitchc3569]

The Ultimate 110 has proven to be exceptionally reliable with the milder cam from the 100. Night & Day better than the Absolute Junk Crate Engine sold by the former S&S.

[@rjoetting7594]

I realize that this is a older post, but I have been wondering if anyone has had any experience with the Ultima shovelhead 96 cu/in engine, I'm considering one for my 78 flh shovelhead bobber.

[@fmanion24]

Good video. 🤘

[@sarantisvlassopoulos5795]

Where’s part 2

[@gnarlytothemax]

so how many miles did you get out of it before it took a shit?

[@urbanassaultmedia1543]

16k before it lost a lifter. the motor looks great otherwise so I'm putting a new cam in and new lifters. When it gives up, I'll let you know

[@nycLPplayer]

@@urbanassaultmedia1543 Any thoughts on upgraded lifters given that is an inherent Evo issu? I think Feuling makes some.

[@johncasor9698]

now what??? the crank shaft looks all gulled up ....

[@leathers970]

Fuckin penny holding up a dollar could be worse

[@casperpctech]

Is that county 1 on your plate?

[@clubstyleridahd4695]

I bet your fxr ripped with that motor in it.

[@joeharley87]

Had a 107 in my bike 50K miles and so many problems, they are junk.

[@mrpaintball70]

Engine

[@urbanassaultmedia1543]

You are right, I forgot that this actually goes in an enginecycle, thank you for that clarification

[@mrpaintball70]

@@urbanassaultmedia1543 not knocking you dude, good video very informal, enjoy life's ride brother 👍🤘

[@urbanassaultmedia1543]

@@mrpaintball70 thank you very much, you as well man!!

[@elguitarTom]

haha "china!" :D

[@chrismartin6544]

I never understood how people hate on stuff they never owned

[@RedSun-Cinema]

Jesus... Can you lose the loud music?

[@urbanassaultmedia1543]

No, but I can make an instructional video on how to turn down your speakers if you would like

[@tclark2311]

Ha I paid heaps more for an s&s and had same problems never again Harley Davidson motor never a problem !

[@mickeywarren2316]

Definitely like your point of view brother