Harley ROAD GLIDE Suspension Install & Comparison! (Wilbers)

[@BlockheadMoto]

Have you ever done a modification and thought "Damn, that's crazy!" afterwards?! What was it?

[@jasonsanderson9385]

Just installed V&H full exhaust on Suzuki blvd c50 this weekend..... Damn doesn't sound like a sewing machine anymore

[@razzrasmussen5773]

Putting on my Danny gray seat. So nice. Hooah

[@samstein1822]

Cams

[@poppinfresh5261]

Bobbing my whole bike

[@tbrown4080]

Which is better Ohlins or Wilbers suspension

[@topshelf6623]

It's astounding how poor the stock suspension on such an expensive bike is. Chris it a cool guy. Good video...

[@86Raxor]

That´s actually the worst about it all. Stock susp is normaly more or less crappy on most bikes but INDIAN does it better than HD on that particular matter.

[@monkeespit]

Even more so on an expensive TOURING bike. It makes no sense. I’ve done a couple thousand miles on a road glide, and I was appalled by the lack of comfort and travel of the rear suspension. Literally any other touring bike from any other manufacturer blows HD’s away.

[@dcdanger6151]

Harley should have learned from the AMX years, maybe not

[@Flybrain-z3d]

Maybe I’m crazy but I I have my 2021 Road Glide for 3 months and I love the ride. Not sure what you guys are talking about

[@mathewracheau3512]

I just bought a streetglide, hit my first pothole doing 45 or so and it slammed down and scared the S out of me. It's bad for such an expensive touring bike.

[@phoso29]

That is one hell of a comparison to stock suspension vs. Wilbers. Very impressive shocks. That poor little girl almost got launched off the stock suspension after hitting that bumpee-de-bump!!! Dayyyuuum!

[@hurreyrides]

I'm a mechanic right up the street from seminole and I use that road everyday looking for suspension issues. The road is no joke in a car and a nightmare on a bike.

[@rastroyfyah5630]

I know that road

[@marcr660907]

I have Wilbers on my Road King, it gets even better after a few 100kms. I also put them on my Bonneville, changes the bikes handling completely. A great upgrade over stock.

[@surfsessions100]

Have u ridden ohlins as well? Notice a significant difference?

[@marcr660907]

@@surfsessions100 I haven’t tried Ohlins on my Road King, they should at least be as good, probably even better, but that’s just a guess. The Wilbers are quite a bit cheaper, and as I don’t ride my Harley on the track, I doubt I would notice.

[@matthewstanton8418]

Just installed Wilbers on my 2020 RGS and it's awesome. Can't wait to have a passenger to see the real difference.

[@bobbendt1698]

I put Legends Revo A on the back of my TriGlide after riding it for a couple thousand miles 2 up. I noticed immediate improvement as did my wife. Now to do the fronts. I recommend everyone look into these aftermarket suspensions after riding stock for a while. I looked at the Wilbers website and price for front and rear isn't out of line with many others.

[@Nonogrow420]

Yeah buddy, did them on my 11 street glide....new bearings tire...should have threw the stock shit in the garbage day one eh....14's Trask 2 into 1,...tight ass ...MUST DO EH 👌💯🤟🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺😉😝

[@zardportugal]

WILBERS should pay you to use this video. Great job. Congrats.

[@2kanchoo]

Caliper bag. Well that's a use for a crown royal bag I've never thought of before. Nice.

[@paulb354]

also good for holding lever assemblies while changing bars :D

[@cademullins8128]

you have changed my mind after watching your video. i was absolutely sold on buying legend suspension for the front and rear of my 2019 RG. only reason i havent done it yet, is they are VERY expensive. switching to wilbers suspension is going to save me around 300 bucks, AND, wilbers comes with everything you need in ONE kit. legends you have to buy front, rear, and even a mounting bracket. So glad i saw your video, you changed my mind, AND saved me money.....thanks

[@stefansgarage3014]

You won't regret your decision! Wilbers comes with even more, a continuously adapting spring rate and damping in the rear-no other suspension is capable of that and that's what makes the difference.

[@TheSouthernExperience]

That guy is very cool!! I thoroughly enjoyed the interaction between you guys!!

[@infini1970]

I love watching these vids. They make it look so easy. So easy in fact that I plan my own modding, set my goal, get motivated, get to the bike with my amateur tools, look at it. Even at times I take the seat off. Then put everything back and make an appointment with my mechanic. Just a note, the seat is completely different. Stock seat has very little passenger support and is way wider for the rider than that Saddlmen seat. So it's to me a "little" factor in the ride comfort along with the new suspension, at least a little.

[@bradhirvela9568]

Get an ultimate seat

[@jimd5315]

I installed this front and rear suspension this weekend. Have an issue with the rear right side and my 4.5” Krome Werks muffler…..the axle cam adjuster is hitting my right muffler….so now my stock rear suspension is back on.

[@VintageSteeland700s_1]

Lol idk how you held your composure and focus as he was reciting the outro at the same time lol, I would have been so tongue tied! Chris co-hosting is always welcomed 🤘 great info guys!

[@cmtowner]

Suspension upgrade so far has been the best upgrade I’ve done on my FLTRU. The crap HD puts on is a shame.

[@ecrusch]

1st of all, I like that shirt hanging up behind Chris at the 21:11 mark..lol 2nd, and most importantly, suspension like that is not only a safety essential but also a very pleasant way to float down the highway. Good work Block, Chris and Chris' daughter.

[@bloodymarvelous4790]

Essential gear: Crown Royal

[@jeffnabors833]

That is SO classy.

[@kencarrcarr3751]

Hello from the UK I ride a 2020 Street Glide Special 114ci which has now covered ten thousand miles on stock suspension, I'm quite happy with the stock suspension it's ok so long as you dial in the correct setting for the weight the bike is carrying.I am six foot three and twenty one stone and it is my personal experience that Harleys seem to like a bit of weight on them maybe that's the problem people are having with the stock suspension this is just my personal opinion you understand.

[@AK4TF]

There was a customer at the dealership I work at that had some Wilbers put on his BMW, he was happy with the end result, but it took 3 separate shipments to get the correct suspension setup. And can confirm, Louisiana has terrible roads.

[@surfsessions100]

Crown royal bags have unending utility. So great. Never thought of that

[@TheJCJexe]

Nice! Can't wait for the performance bagger build!

[@CandyBarMoto]

Been wanting to put a Wilber suspension on my Road Glide for a while. First heard about them on Matt Laidlaw's Podcast. Main reason I got intrigued was for the self-leveling. I bounce between single rider and passenger so often. Adjusting the suspension has always been a pain in the Ass! Glad to see a second opinion... guess I'm on the right track.

[@stefansgarage3014]

You definitely are! With changing loads nothing gets even close to Wilbers. Make sure to order it with the correct weights and have it installed properly. Here in Germany I offer my customers a money back guarantee, because it's a no brainer with the Wilbers LDC. I had the Golden One on my Road King, but the Wilbers is simply better and needs no adjustment.

[@CandyBarMoto]

@@stefansgarage3014 I am curious as to how they preform when on super curvy roads with a Passanger. Because I live In the Rocky Mountains. We have Fantastic curvy canyons.

[@stefansgarage3014]

Although Wilbers is in the more flat part of Germany, believe me, I tested it on some very curvy roads in the Alps and (without speed limit) on the Autobahn…👍🏻

[@MultipleInterface]

I did Ohlins over the winter on my Road Glide, this video makes me excited to get to try it!! Never heard of Wilbers but if I hadn't already done it, I would definitely give it a try.

[@stefansgarage3014]

Had Öhlins on my Road King, the Wilbers are definitely better. But don't be disappointed, Öhlins is a very good choice with a huge improvement as well, just not offering the advantage of adapting to different roads and loads

[@randyrega3722]

I understand the Wilbur's makes the ride smoother but how about performance. I ride hard and don't want to bike to feel like A Cadillac. Any opinions

[@stefansgarage3014]

The Wilbers is not like a Cadillac, it's more like a base model 911

[@IveAlreadyWon]

I wish you could've tested on a better comparison. You were also on an upgraded seat vs stock. I'd have liked to have seen a comparison with the seat swapped out for a stock seat, too to make the suspension the only real change.

[@stefansgarage3014]

Don`t worry, even without seat the Wilbers would have been a huge improvement

[@MrGbustamante]

Are the fronts just springs and oil? No cartridge like the Ohlins and Legends up front?

[@patrickoconnor1077]

Thank you for posting this blockhead. I've only seen a few options for suspensions on my 16 road glide special. I'm in Pennsylvania the roads aren't the best. When I do find decent roads the stock is OK. When the roads aren't good man my old softail is more cush than my road glide special stock

[@BobBob-fp5fn]

Do a comparison of onlins, legend and Wilber. I want to see which one is better

[@msanc315]

Dude using the crown bag to hold the calipers is awesome

[@hcoffandersen]

Those Wilbers are the best suspention i’ve ever tried. Have them on my Street Glide and they work fantastic.

[@whitetiger6868]

How long have you had it on your bike? Interested how they last over time

[@hcoffandersen]

@@whitetiger6868 , 20.000 km in 2 years. Mixed driving with wife on the back and alone. Exelent handling even with wife and fully packed for weekend trip. In Europe we pay around $2000 for the complete set. Took me a day to install both front and back.

[@stefansgarage3014]

@@whitetiger6868 They come with a 5 year warranty, the basic design is by ZF to last an equivalent of 180.000mls

[@HoggwildinNorthCarolina]

That was hilarious Legend suspension commercial on this video about Wilbur’s

[@jonkalm]

What did it do to the ride height going from 12” to 13” shocks ? Seems the new suspension sags more

[@kennetheroh4052]

Was going to buy a new Road Glide but not now, thanks for the info!

[@cjg431]

What is the sag set at with just the rider on? And how can I get a more plush ride? I have to check my sag , I had my ol lady measure with me on it had the tour pack on as well. I am feeling every bump. So I think i need to adjust it. I didn’t do any adjustments when I installed them.

[@OneDownGeneUp]

The Fox rear suspension upgrade on my Bonneville T120 Black makes a night and day difference, so I believe it!

[@coffeytnmilk]

Great video and test. I wish Harley put better suspensions on their stock rides. Nice video!

[@carlosb3926]

I was about to trade in my 2010 street glide to a new one but $20,000 difference in price n will still have this issues! No 👎🏻 I’m rebuilding my 2010 instead starting with this suspension! Thanks for the video

[@pd6569]

Thanks for the video. I wonder how H-D can possibly reconcile that they produce quality products and then even on the CVO’s, produce crap shocks? Shocks are sort of basic no? How much does it set you back for the equipment and install?

[@stefansgarage3014]

I believe a little under 2K for the suspension plus install

[@RoadieWingZZ]

So right off the bat, the Wilbers is a 13” shock which will inherently provide an improvement over the 12” on the stock. Even a RG Ultra with the stock 13” shock rides waaaay better than a RG or RG Special. The fix for the harsh ride is always the sag of 3/4” to 1” (or 33% of total travel) to put the bike in a suspended neutral position. The negative aspect of the Wilbers would be the unbalanced nature of the Nivomat only being on one side for a rubber mounted swing arm assembly which means forces are not balanced on both sides. This is deemed a critical negative aspect of the HD stock shocks by suspension aficionados so is a relevant issue and concern on the Wilbers.

[@voodoodad]

IMHO, that's seems like a good onservationand I would love to see wilburs response to this, Or Stefan from Stefans garage maybe could provide a response

[@matthewheidenreich3401]

The upgrade bike also has a Saddleman seat...just sayn, however you can see and hear the difference just from watching. Cool.

[@guuunni2025]

Nice comparison ... and i love that our german engineering is as good as one says :D "Bedienungsanleitung" means "control manual" and we do have worse words in German

[@sebastiangeorge7714]

I would say user manual

[@guuunni2025]

@@sebastiangeorge7714 true ... :D

[@mikec1254]

Stock suspension on HARLEY baggers has always sucked the newer ones suck the worst. I have had a 1996, 92k miles, 2006, 98k miles and just bought a 2020 couple years ago the 2020 Road Glide LTD had the worst out of all 3. Changed my suspension at about 3500 miles pay all that money for a new bike and have to upgrade it is a shame.

[@claytonnotland5196]

I would love to see the comparison between wilbur vs progressive or legends suspension.

[@slyguyaction]

Comparatively speaking, for the price of front and rear suspension from that “gold shock company”, Wilbur’s is cheaper and much better and it auto adjusts. No more cranking up the preload before adding a passenger or gear and then backing it off riding solo without gear. I’m interested

[@stefansgarage3014]

Definitely! No more removal of bags to adjust and it is not only adjusting for weight, also for road surface

[@TomMcNeill-pq7fh]

How about RG3 to install Wilber suspension, I have Legend suspension on my RG3 now and it’s terrible 😡

[@markgiancola8973]

What’s chris’ opinion about H-D Premium emulsion shocks for Dyna?

[@cancelchannel3394]

I have stock suspension, with a 2 inch drop in the back, in order to plant my feet on the ground a little better when stopping, bike rides like a brick "/ thinking of switching to burly 10.5 inch slammer shocks on back, not sure what difference that will make in ride comfort "/

[@petergerlich7912]

So basically, Stock suspension: “aa-aaa-aaa-aa” Wilbers suspension: “aaaaaaaaaaaa” Great video as always!

[@robb907]

Thanks for the Alaska shoutout. Been studying shocks. I’ll look into the Wilburs 😃👍🏽

[@stefansgarage3014]

You will love them. Continuous spring rate and damping adjusting while you ride. No other suspension is capable of doing that. Therefor the best solution for riding two up or single-no adjustments necessary

[@mikedanaher3413]

Nothing better than a great suspension upgrade. Great video 👍

[@topperformanceautomotivein5569]

A major mistake on installation I noticed. They had the fork springs in the tubes when adding and checking oil level. Proper oil level is checked before adding the springs. Springs installed when adding oil will cause the oil level height to be too low.

[@stefansgarage3014]

That's correct, that's why they had to redo it! Ride comparison however is with the wrong oil level.

[@mickc4633]

Those big tires look good on the front of that bike. I was wondering I think they’re big tires. Anyway I was considering that for my CVO don’t like to do extensive mods but suspension is a good one. I’m just wondering how that tire works in the rain. I don’t do day ride so What I like to go on trips in all types of weather. Heading for Tennessee Saturday looks like a lot of wetness. Should be fun. Looks like pretty nice suspension but it’s expensive

[@markslavens3150]

Awesome..ive always ran top end suspension in my vehicles, but havent invested in aftermarket on a bike. You would think the money we pay for HD it would be more top end...but we all know we just pay for the logo...i.e. 70 buck for a $3 t shirt with a $67 dollar tag.

[@millinutz]

Bedienungsanleitung = Operation Manual... you know, that stuff you always toss away by all your Unboxings.

[@ecrusch]

I know you looked it up on Google like me....lol

[@millinutz]

@@ecrusch No you're wrong. You googled it.., I am bilingual.

[@charleshenson4183]

You were also running a factory seat without sissy bar vs aftermarket seat & sissy bar & I bet you didn't adjust the factory suspension either. That alone would make HUGE difference to a passenger.

[@stefansgarage3014]

Good point, the seats feel different, but to be fair, the Wilbers suspension was not adjusted for one or two up as well...

[@angelosammartano7169]

Thanks for the video, just answered a lot of questions of mine. Love the comparison side by side road test . Also glad the owner jumped in and commented on the handling of the bike on the turns . All through the video I was assuming I was going to have to ask that question in the comments. I found that my 2021 Road Glide was smother than the 2013 that I traded in but we were on a benefit ride yesterday. That took us through Philadelphia and hit som numbs that were like speed bumbs on the highways that sucked you know those back jolting hits you take on crap roads that you can’t avoid . Can you give a approx price 2021 Road Glide . Great video Thanks Again

[@abdulmateen19]

You are 100 percent on the bad roads in Louisiana. My RGS takes a beating every time lol

[@razzrasmussen5773]

It would be hard to set up...Wilbers vs gold stuff vs legend. Wow! I am impressed by self leveling. I like being able to adjust for weight...if the suspension does it fir me? Yea baby! Hooah

[@mikeagliata8519]

Sorry if I missed it, but how do they compare against Legends? Would you ever mix them, Wilbers in the rear and Legend AXEO in the front? I have a 2018 Road Glide CVO.

[@stefansgarage3014]

I wouldn't do that, I have a 2019 Road Glide CVO and the front is well balanced with the "simple springs". Problem with the 21in front wheel is that there is almost no suspension travel, so it won't be as good as all other Rushmore Tourings

[@Krippztr]

How tall is the suspension? Front and back. Does it keep factory height? Or does it lower or raises the bike up?

[@orangepotato6654]

Awesome video ! great comparison ! I cant wait to upgrade the suspension on my "Orange Potato" When I bought my bike the steering neck bearings were bad! and the wobble was ridiculous! after the new bearings it was a whole new bike !

[@cedriclashar8905]

This is a great video...so far as opposed to legends and ohlins video...in which both have almost night and day differences...where as in so far the wilber suspension videos I've seen...not one complaint in the way it rides!!!

[@AdaMoto83]

Great work guys. But will you be changing yours Block? Or is it more just for touring bikes?

[@hcoffandersen]

They make for all kind of bikes, also for racing.

[@scott2228]

Can these be ordered online and sent to my home?

[@spacetreaty797]

ha thats awesome the owner of that bike got me a hell of a deal on a 2020 iron! love Seminole Harley!

[@redrider0151]

Now imagine replacing the air/oil suspension on the 2014-2015 touring bikes with a real suspension!! LOLZ I have the gold colored one on mine and it was INSANE how much better it was than stock...looking at the stock one, they cant have more than 10 dollars in the stock rear shocks on 14/15 bikes.... Great video!! Wish I lived in St Pete still so I could hang with such a cool mechanic!

[@evinnice3321]

Ha! We use crown bags at Roosters in Sioux City Ia

[@ericjudd9603]

At 40 grand, there shouldn’t be anything better then whats on it.

[@mikepsly73]

Spent 25k on my slightly used 2019 RGS. The shocks are shit. Yet $2500+ install for wilburs set up is a grip.

[@surfsessions100]

Hardest thing for me to overcome. U buy a half built bike for twice what a high performance bike would go for out of the box

[@JimmieJohn]

Buy an American bike only to put on a German suspension. WTF?

[@MrDoyle07]

@@surfsessions100My 22 year old Harley is still worth what I paid for it and still want the bike more; my 22 year old YamaHoSuKaw … …well, I can’t even give it away. I’ll take the Harley. My money is worth more than cheap.

[@frenchy114]

What setting did you have the stock shocks on? That could be contributing to differences. Don’t get me wrong, stock leaves a lot to be desired.

[@stefansgarage3014]

True, could contribute a little. But to be fair, the Wilbers setup was not changed either during the bike swap...😇

[@brandonstone6962]

And the funny thing is that I will have the info about it long before Chris will which is awesome

[@timmidkiff1114]

Will there be anything done with the block box soon?

[@NoXQc]

Hey block! Old video but I am looking for shocks upgrade on my 2012 King. She’s pushing lots of power so I want great performance shocks and smooth ride! These looks like a great kit from your review, any other suggestions ?

[@PTyler88]

Is this the beginning of Blocks need of a bagger bike? We all know you want one. Also all the pop culture references on point haha.

[@thanosetsitty1896]

Great review and test ride. You can definitely see the difference.

[@motorcyclestoriesbydarkdave]

OK, do they have the Tri Glide suspension? Great video love being in the shop. Most will not let us in. Keep up the good job!

[@whskywolf]

Great comparison between the two suspensions. Have fun and be safe.

[@grantbresley5343]

I have dirty air ride quick up on my RKS. I like the adjustments you can make and of course how low it drops the bike when I park it. Do You think the comfort ride would be better with something like this? Probably won’t change just curious if anyone has changed out air ride for something else and thoughts.

[@chadironhead9739]

I had air ride on my bike found it to be unreliable

[@davidknows3320]

I'll buy the rear...enter in old school KYB gas adjust shocks for cars, but sell me on only changing a spring and the oil in the front forks.

[@bobbyuykim]

Nice comparison guys i hope theres any way you guys can do a comparison between the 2 bikes again on canyon riding handling and all that good stuff… thank you

[@shawncrema2616]

Hey I was wondering what options did you pick when ordering the kit?

[@stefansgarage3014]

The owners weights, but You see the kit is able to work with a variety without the need to be adjusted. If you have any questions about your personal setting, contact WilbersUSA or me (on instagram), we are happy to assist.

[@carlosvaltierra1910]

A sad note! I rode Japanese bikes until I was about 30 years old. I even got into road racing at Willow springs race way back in 1986. i was a Privateer and started on Kawasaki then onto Hondas. and never did we complain about the Suspension! out of the box we were able to GO! This is not my first Bagger. But that is Harleys worsts parts next to the Grips! For what we pay for them you think we could get a better bike! I'm in SO. California and the price on these and all other suspensions are out of reach for me. they sound good! they look good. thanks for reading my ramblings

[@RobEye48]

Great video. I'm looking at options for my '19 FLHT. Definitely will consider Wilbers. Also, what seat is on the RG? Seems great for solo (very supportive) as well as 2 up (nice and wide). Great looking bike.

[@shawnprescher790]

Impressed. Wish they made sets for Softails!

[@stefansgarage3014]

Unfortunately not possible so far, the internal mechanism of the self leveling system needs to be mounted almost upright, that makes it impossible to adapted to TC or M8 Softails

[@21_redeye]

Thank you for the video. Purchased a set last month and just received them.

[@stefansgarage3014]

You will love it, make sure the install is done right, especially the initial 3/4 in sag adjustment on the rear.

[@DLeeJ]

Just when I think I'm done modifying my bike I see something like this...

[@bernardoreilly3720]

When length are the shocks, eye centre to eye centre ?

[@stefansgarage3014]

It is always a 13in shock with the Wilbers Nivomat

[@geralddupuie3188]

Can you compare these with Legends

[@stefansgarage3014]

Legends will be in between Wilbers and stock. There is no match to a system that constantly adjusts spring rate AND damping while riding-no matter if one or two up.

[@marconickolasgarces]

Do you know the info passenger back rest?

[@a456987]

So are you gonna do suspension on Goldzilla now

[@SportyRider]

Hadn't heard of this brand, definitely interesting and good to know! You'd think factory would be a lot better though.

[@S0mpers0n11oo]

how tf did you comment 14 hours ago the video only been up 24 min

[@markdurham3048]

@@S0mpers0n11oo Patreon

[@SportyRider]

@@S0mpers0n11oo that's right

[@Sidneybeach875]

The question chris, is why doesnt harley do better out the gate?

[@markrandio5462]

Awesome video as always. It’s crazy, you were driving by my mothers neighborhood. Small world.

[@1Bigduff]

if you could only replace front or rear suspension, which would you do?

[@stefansgarage3014]

Rear, but better wait until you can afford to do both

[@briandickter2724]

You can upgrade your rear shocks first and then do the front suspension later. Don’t wait! The new rear shocks immediately improve your ride comfort. The new front suspension upgrade will improve your suspension performance.

[@stefansgarage3014]

You get the featured set only as a balanced complete set, front and rear. Of course you can do it one by one, even mix manufacturers. But the results will be less than optimum.

[@brianmclaughlin6903]

nice I'm going to see about get this setup on my 2006 Road King. Maine roads suck

[@Mainecat21]

So did this raise the bike 1"? Or is it the same height as stock?

[@stefansgarage3014]

I did measurements on several converted Wilbers bikes.While riding it definitely raises the bike to get the maximum ride comfort (continuous spring rate and damping adjusting). A few minutes after coming to a stop, the internal reservoirs release slowly the pressure and the bike has the normal (-Special) height. To be precise, front is a bit lower (less than 10mm/ 3/8in) and the rear around the same amount higher. The Tourings with std rear shocks are even a bit lower than stock, when parked. But honestly, You don't see the difference, when the bikes are parked.

[@waynebuchholz1788]

Blockhead would you put this suspension on a LRS?

[@stefansgarage3014]

He already asked for it, but it is not available for the Softail frame (yet?).

[@Ragdoll_xxviii]

Hey blockhead come on down to Bert's Black Widow Harley Davidson in Port Charlotte Florida some day! I work there and detail bikes 😁

[@davidmatias6239]

did it improve the handling also ?

[@stefansgarage3014]

Of course, the taller shocks provide more lean angle. In turn You get much more stability and comfort

[@damianp5684]

Do I have to buy the crown royal to do this install

[@stefansgarage3014]

check out the detailed install on my channel

[@domschwarz502]

The red paper says basically "please read the operation manual before beginning the ride" Translated by a German blockhead fan :)