Harley Davidson STAGE 2 Explained

Harley-Davidson Stage 2 explained!
STAGE 2 PARTS: (confirm fitment)
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STAGE 1 PARTS: (confirm fitment)
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[@nickricholetti754]

Just seeing the knowledge of this guy and his cleanliness in his shop makes me want him to work on my bike. Hard to find a quality mechanic at this guys level

[@drewthelegend0188]

Really not that hard to find, but they all charge money that matches the talent, and that makes people feel ripped off

[@nickricholetti754]

@@drewthelegend0188 HD charges you an arm and a leg and I’m never 100% confident in any work they do lol

[@sanitvr]

@@nickricholetti754 true....sad but true kkkkkkkkkk

[@scottbradshaw7459]

I was thinking the same thing 🤔

[@theonlyredspecial]

He is a great mechanic. Very good to listen to as well.

[@jmcclure55]

Thank you both for teaching how an engine works. I'm 62, but I didn't grow up with this experience or knowledge. Thanks also for not being condescending. I taught high school for 40 years, and I recognize a good teacher when I see one.

[@simobaz3193]

as a bike enthousiast i love this kind of stuff, i work in IT and have no clue whats going on inside my bike. It's nice to learn these things being explained clearly.

[@BlockheadMoto]

Thanks for watching!

[@marksmith1370]

@@BlockheadMoto I have a 2006 harley davidson softail heritage what could I do to get more Horse power and torque out of it I love the videos guys great job with them thank for your time in this matter

[@daveco1270]

Chris is a good teacher. Have you guys ever thought about doing occasional seminars at the garage? I'd pay to take a 2 hour motorcycle class with Chris teaching. There's a local motorcycle garage/co-op work space near me that does classes. It's like 50 bucks for a 2 hour class on basic maintenance or electronics or carburetors, there's a few different ones to chose from. I signed up for a couple classes next month. I'm curious to see how they are.

[@BlockheadMoto]

Cool idea!

[@journeyofjerry820]

@@BlockheadMoto I'm with Dave123 . a maintanace class would be awesome. I would pay for such a class.

[@JorgeL1]

I’d pay

[@finojaime6030]

I did't see the push rods replaced-put back in, these videos are so well done & very informative

[@joshluttrell2084]

I'm not even a Harley guy, but I'm loving this series. Super informative, super thorough, and still enjoyable to watch. Congratulations on your well deserved success.

[@BlockheadMoto]

Thanks Josh!

[@anubis7152]

He’s a walking talking service manual. I’m taking notes off everything he says and does. Incredible level of knowledge and skill he possesses. Very impressed with this channel and content.

[@ianloyd6384]

Definitely appreciate how informative Chris ⛄️ gets with explaining the process. Used to appreciate that about when you guys were building Goldzilla too. Good stuff guys!

[@ThatTat2Guy]

Iv watched two of these videos, I'm now a certified Harley Davidson technician. thanks 😅 all jokes aside, great videos and very informative.

[@StrayAwayDave]

I knew it was a master mechanic flex when he broke out the jelly jar full of oil🔥

[@BlockheadMoto]

Master move for sure! 🤘🏼

[@scjoe7]

As many of us know this, I really appreciate how patient y’all are to help others that aren’t familiar with this get an explanation to this. Many a mechanic forget they once were ignorant about this stuff too and become too cool to help newcomers. Very Cool guys, Very Cool !!! 👍

[@bv.hd883]

Just bought my first 2014 Harley 883 Stage1. Rad bike with vance and hines sound crazy! Because of you guys, I knew what I was talking about at the dealer :D Really dig the series for my own knowledge and curiosity. Never would I attempt this myself, but I'm glad I got the awareness of how it was made/done. THANKS!!

[@schachat01]

Great video-would of been helpful to include the installation and adjustment of the pushrods-key part of the installation in my opinion.

[@life_behind_bars]

Very informative. Now you guys need to work on a 103 so I can see it done to the same engine I have 😉

[@BlockheadMoto]

I’ll see what we can do! 🤘🏼

[@mikemarsh6904]

@@BlockheadMoto Please do! i just got same motor. I subscribed 1st thing. great video!

[@robinbonte]

I know Chris has 25 years of experience, but all the knowledge keeps amazing me. Also, because of these videos i’m really really really thinking of a career switch. And doing something i never knew i would do. Thanks for all the great content and keep it coming. Much love from the Netherlands!

[@billbalyx8799]

it amazes me just how simple yet complicated ICE are and hoe they work. It's hard to imagine the speed of the all those parts going around and it works.

[@michaelmitchell5909]

Your gonna be very successful at that garage man...congrats dude. Awesome! Not all mechanics have a good attitude like Chris does man your very lucky to have him on your side...

[@BlockheadMoto]

Grateful for the opportunity! It’s not always sunshine and rainbows though 😆

[@michaelmitchell5909]

@@BlockheadMoto ....thanks for replying dude...means alot man. I hear ya on the sunshine and rainbows thing, but your motivated to do good things man and that'll bring you success. Gonna have to add blockhead garage on the bucketlist along with kaplan america and tatro machine. Ask Chris if he knows of tatro machine....check him out

[@stngstr]

Ha! He must already be super busy and successful. Been trying to get a quote from him for months. Tried the website "Contact us" form, facebook posts, etc...etc. Business must be good already.

[@freddievannoy220]

WOW! The difference is incredible, before and after. Sounds awesome! Thanks for the detailed video...you guys rock!

[@TheHuester44]

More then the sound it’s all about the performance 😊

[@AMartell10]

Put a S&S 475 in my M8 114 Breakout and dyno tuned it with power vision software. Made 124 horse and 136 ft lbs of torque. Love this cam.

[@krispy1k]

Thank you for these very informative vids. At 52yrs old I just got my first HD ('13 RK w/unmolested 103) and starting to learn engine upgrades to understand what course of direction I want to go with it. Your vids made learning simple and easy. Great Job!

[@onlyhereonce7290]

Very informative. You both made extra efforts to include the viewer in your video. As a result, we all learned.

[@Hard_Luck_Harold]

Best informative video of the Stage 2 I have seen. Chris 🥶 always does a great job explaining

[@crypto_que]

Stanceworks level play by play on the tear down & assembly. Usually watching stuff like this gives me anxiety, & I have to fast forward. Great job on the install video guys!

[@MrKillermiller99]

Forget motorcycles; can you guys work on and fix my life with this much diligence and attention to detail??

[@BlockheadMoto]

Lol that’d cost much more 😆

[@rescuerob6175]

I wish this was uploaded a day ago, I just changed my cams today!!! Everything went well though! Big power improvement with the Wood TW-222 cams!!

[@sactwnpokr]

I love all the explanations of why and how you're doing what you are in the stage 2 upgrade. I would have like to have seen how you got the push rods back in.

[@jabendroth2]

Same here! I was looking forward to that and hoping that it would be the most interesting part of the whole video.

[@jameswilson8432]

You put adjustable rods in from s&s!

[@BlockheadMoto]

Hope this was informative! Be sure to hit Subscribe for incoming content! Want this done to your bike? You can book service with us at www.BlockheadGarage.com 🤘

[@ZChristopher22]

Finally. Love The dynamic with Chris and Block.

[@motorcycletherapy4467]

Hey Blockhead. Just traded my indian chieftain fir a Milwaukee 8 and done 115kms (71miles) and had to get my cylinders and barrels replaced. Definitely a Friday bike. Weren't honed round. Loving the videos.

[@s1dewayz620]

Makes me want to go all the way over to Mr.25 years himself all the way from Texas just to get it done right. I followed a long time ago, since the OG 883. I'll admit I went away after getting my sport bikes, but I've been watching. Watching the growth, dude nothing but congratulations to you and your team. You guys are awesome, like I said, I hope to be able to meet you guys in person one day and leave with my 48 sounding and feeling reeaaallll goood.

[@64thBuck]

Love the sound of M8s chugging just before they fire. Such a gnarly sound off that FatBoy.

[@dakotahensen5759]

Can you please do a stage 3 and stage 4 explained? Thanks.

[@TheJumpn]

I don’t ride cruisers, but I’ve watched your channel since around 5k subs mainly because of your quality content. Always like to watch your stuff.

[@BlockheadMoto]

Thanks man, means a lot! 👊🏼

[@dylandream2248]

Sportsters, 45 or 80" Flatheads are quad cams. All Shovels, Pans and Knuckle's are single cam and share/in common with the Evo's and M8's

[@Jon-wf3tg]

Some came with stage 1 already completed - my FXDL was one of them. There’s something strange about my ride too - seems to have much more power than it should have. No cam but my god the torque on the low end and HP on the upper end will absolutely break your neck. 2017 and only 5400 miles on her. She beautiful 🤩

[@thedudeify]

bought a bike with stage 2! It all makes sense, amazing video, thank you so much for the time and effort! 👍 you guys rock!

[@robertfagan8833]

One of the most informative videos on the stage 2 I have ever watched.. thanks for your video

[@Bass.Player]

I like these videos, I used to ride Harley's when I could afford them now I have a Road Star 1700 that sounds just like my old Shovelhead... I bought a 2000 deuce (twin cam) that to me did not sound like a Harley at all, I was disappointed and sold it.

[@daivdpeach2740]

Great content, I like the way you guys show almost step by step instructions and take the time to explain what your doing!

[@EvaLove001]

Im happy to report thanks to your videos i just completed my Harley Davidson academy :)

[@BlockheadMoto]

Congrats! 🎉

[@EvaLove001]

@@BlockheadMoto thank you so very much its all because of your videos they gave me the courage i needed

[@paulhogan5111]

Wish this guy was in Texas. This video, well produced too... Tight content.

[@bonedad_e]

Man I wish I could work in a shop like that, I bet I'd learn a whole bunch

[@user-fy9lm1gi6r]

Damn I wish I was an apprentice for Chris - Amazing amount of knowledge - And I am green as green comes - Love these videos

[@gearsandgrit]

These seriously are great, loving the series. At what point of power increase do you need to start worrying about beefing up the transmission? Does going Stage 3 or 4 introduce more odds of blowing a motor?

[@ecrusch]

"IT'S SCIENCE"...;) Whoa, that sounds WAY,WAY better!!! These instructional videos are so cool.

[@barlorox]

I love these videos. Very entertaining to watch someone so knowledgeable and capable. Love the videos.

[@paulfiore7083]

Really enjoying your podcasts. I can't get enough information about Harley engines. I've gone insane. I used a Screaming Eagle cam plate and oil pump. Hopefully I made a good choice with my.510 S&S cam and gear drive. Less than.002 run out on my 01 twin cam

[@jacobinfante375]

His knowledge on that is amazing and learning how to do it without me even having a motorcycle is mind blowing. Hopefully I get a motorcycle soon

[@darrellbrown1148]

I understand why you cut your pushrods to get them out without taking all that apart, but I might have missed something in the video, I know you didn’t put the cut pushrods back in, so I’m asking how did you put them back in without taking everything apart that you didn’t want to remove, might be a stupid question but I think I missed something, thanks, love the videos been watching for a couple years,

[@BlockheadMoto]

As this wasn’t a “How To” video, more so aimed at explaining how Stage 2 components work, we didn’t include every single step for the job as it would have been a much longer video. But we put adjustable pushrods back in 👍🏼

[@darrellbrown1148]

@@BlockheadMoto thanks was just curious, again love the vids, and can’t wait to see the performance bagger completed, cheers 🍻👍

[@lingofearth2786]

That was way better than just a typical explanation video.

[@kalebnorthrup4125]

I can’t wait to get my build done at the Blockhead Garage in the future!

[@BlockheadMoto]

Lookin forward to it! 🤘🏼

[@smilingbiter]

The only Harley other than some flatheads and I think the Sportster, only ran one cam except for the twin cams. The Evos on down to the Knuckle cams were gear-driven single cams.

[@godsmack7734]

Chris and Blockhead, thanks for explaining this so it makes sense. So cool to learn from you guys! 😎

[@BlockheadMoto]

Thanks for watching!

[@ozzynmyrtle]

I like the way y'all primed the lifters..... pretty slick.... hope y'all enjoyed the jam first lol

[@ChrisIsOutside]

loved that customer reaction at the end

[@zimluc]

The most didactic explanation that´s been given so far. Congrats for the excellent work guys!!!!

[@BlockheadMoto]

Thanks!

[@peted11956]

I love my carbed EVO's! One 1995XLH1200 with the older Crane cam and programable electronic module, the other is a stock1997 1343.

[@steelsaddle2339]

Love the guy walking in and the next cut the door's closed 😂😂😂😂

[@434srt90]

I'm wondering what the stock injectors are good till, deff the best video from theses guys and absolutely enjoy theses

[@willbe7442]

Oh id love to see how Chris installs those bars. As careful as i was masking stuff up, I still scratched them lol

[@bradleybennett5540]

By far the best explanation and demonstration videos I have found….great stuff!!

[@concordelxi1998]

Hey good morning fellas, just got my '22 Softail standard M8 and I love it. Saving up for a stage 1, if I wasn't in Oklahoma I'd be riding to you guys to tune it and learn more. Awesome content gents, much appreciated. Also I subscribed. Lol

[@jackcampbell4631]

What about the "O" ring / gasket on the back of the oil pump? It wasn't in my instructions from S&S but was on a video from them. When I didn't have it installed oil came out my Trask "Check m8" so I had to install it. S&S said it was needed. The trouble didn't start until I went up to a 128".

[@BlockheadMoto]

It is recommended to replace that gasket with a new one 👍🏼

[@HaXaW5150]

For real. Thank you guys for breaking this down to a level that even someone like me can understand what it is you're doing. The shame of it all ( on my end that is) my father was a master mechanic. I play music myself. Anywho thank you again, thjis is priceless.

[@chrisw1592]

Great content guys! Just curious why you continued to install the S&S oil plate when S&S recommends no more than 5 thousandths runout on the pinion shaft? Was it the customers call?

[@ut1004bp]

Well done, yea that woods cam profile would (pun intended) be my choice

[@Rezaroth]

I remember camping next to a stage two road glide once. In the morning the man started the thing and ya know the rest.

[@aparadissis]

I know parts costs and bikes are all different, but what kind of costs go with each stage?

[@danielbianchi3479]

Learned a lot even after 30 years, an excellent job with a master mechanic! Thanks

[@jillbuntagna]

Great guys from Phils here. Just bought a 2nd hand HD 48 with vans and hines, screamin eagle. Very interesting video for stage 2 because I'm planning to get it. Thanks guys.

[@peeonthe3rdrail414]

You guys really glossed over crank run out. It's super important and is an essential part of the install.

[@journeyofjerry820]

more so important if they were going to a gear drive cam. still within factory tolerance for chain driven. now i reply this and have zero mechanical skills. what i really wanted to see was how they reinstall the push rods. does push rods need a certain amount of lash?

[@happyness5293]

@@journeyofjerry820 on my evo sportster back in the day, it had solid lifters, I used to make the pushrods snug, then back off slightly, spin them to where they spun freely with slight resistance, and tighten the locking nuts, was good to go. That motor was pretty radical, and had no issues with adjusting them that way. Hydraulics have a preload, so I would probably adjust them as I explained, but without compressing the preload. Something that you might want to verify, but that's what I would do, if I were doing the job myself.

[@mackhankins]

I don't ride, but I like these videos cause I'm learning something.

[@djorgensen3]

How does the SE oil pump and cam plate stack up to the S&S parts? What type of improvements in oil flow does it provide percentage wise versus the S&S?

[@BlockheadMoto]

You’d have to look up their spec sheets for detailed stats, but Chris goes over a few of the pros in this video 👍🏼

[@djorgensen3]

@@BlockheadMoto Chris is exactly why I asked the question. He was a Harley employee and likely has experience with the SE oil pump and cam plate. I'm sure more of your followers would love the comparison info of the different brands of oil pumps. I've seen videos showing the % numbers of increased flow for the Fueling and the S&S parts but haven't seen a KZbin video comparing the SE to those two brands.

[@TH-uk6yj]

He sure makes it look easy.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Really love these videos with Chris, I don't own a Harley yet but it's brilliant to see all these vids on them. Haha loved the owners reaction :D

[@alfonsothegreat4481]

You guys explain clearly what you’re doing 👍

[@jamesmorey7553]

I’m learning something new every time I watch. I’m glad can go back and rewatch 👍😎

[@dkelli6020]

Wish I lived closer, I’d send the bike to you guys. I’m way down in Broward County.

[@getoffmygrass6974]

Though Josh would never conceive having something in common with me, I also believe an early carb'd twin cam, especially built, is the best sounding Harley to date, of course taste is subjective but being both my Harley's are an 02', after a cam plate upgrade, these are the best engines Harley made, the 88". Cool running, almost square, love to rev, Timken bottom end, forged crank, no leaky base gaskets, weak cases or failing front exhaust lifters. Not to mention, straight cut bulletproof 5 speed tranny. YMMV

[@DixieNormas]

Curious how the push rods and PR tubes went back on without pulling the head...

[@Tagfire17]

They used adjustable pushrods.

[@DixieNormas]

@@Tagfire17 Still doesn't explain the tubes unless they are some 2 piece design.

[@brandonchayka4009]

I love owning a 2006 VRSCR...like no aftermarket support. Technically it's stage one with tuner, intake, exhaust but even a turbo kit is like 6k. And that's all I've really found.

[@Gnarlys_Garage]

The jelly jar lifter vacuum idea was genius. Liked, subscribed, bell

[@Slking507]

Yep. He is right. The Evo and TC don't sound the same. But both sound better than the M8.

[@billding74]

Love these instructional videos. Ton of great info!! Thanks!!

[@aserider9988]

I remember when you used to say hit the bell and be apart of the “Bell Yeah” squad!

[@BlockheadMoto]

Bell yeah! haha

[@scoobymoto9858]

That man’s reaction was priceless!

[@aceflyer32]

Ok, so you cut out the pushrods, but don't show how you reinstall the new ones with the heads still intact? I've never done this job before and am very curious how this is done. Appreciate all of your informative videos!

[@BlockheadMoto]

This isn’t a ‘How To’ video where we show step by step, that would be a much longer video. This video’s goal was to explain what a Stage 2 consists of and how it works 👍🏼

[@GeorgeWashingtonjr-p7r]

Lots of videos out there about adjusting your pushrods, all by way less cool people though.

[@aceflyer32]

@@BlockheadMoto Yeah, I took that in to consideration, I just figured with all of the other detailed info you guys gave that you would show that. I looked up some other vids to see how the adjustable pushrods worked. Keep doing what you do!

[@aceflyer32]

@@GeorgeWashingtonjr-p7r agreed!

[@tomm9493]

Great video guys, thanks. Not being mechanically inclined, I have a quesion. On my 2022 Street Glide ST M8 117ci. HD just did a stage 2 upgrade, but to stay in warranty, they had constraints and cound't do as good a tune as if my warranty was over. I put TAB 4.5" slipons w/Zombie baffles. Redshift 468 cam kit, but Zippers advised "Make sure you keep the CAT head pipe, DO NOT remove the CAT, If there is an option for adding SE wide band sensors skip those, keep the narrow band sensors." End result: DYNOJET Results = 95.57 HP @5.12 RPM, Max Torque 131.01 @3.18 RPM. I thought my HP would be over 100 with the M8 117ci. Wondering what you think? Thanks!

[@donniebraham6156]

Chris is a Genius

[@KSMotoCafe]

the explanation of the purpose of the pushrod and the cam was fucking masterful. I understood everything even though I have no idea how to take it apart

[@redneckwithajeep5001]

Grandpa had a shovelhead back in day and Harley sold a specific pan for them because they leaked so bad. Still have that pan. My panhead is just as bad and use a disposable baking pan

[@webdapeeps9015]

i just subscribed, I own a 2018 Softail Deluxe (M8 107 motor) and as chances would have it im awaiting my parts to do a Stage I & Stage II (all Screaming Eagle) and im also upgrading the Lifters, the lifter Cuffs, and a SE High performance Oil Pump and Cam Plate. Also a rear pillian, clear 19” windshield, and a few chrome pieces, (although this bike came stock with a chit load of Chrome) Thats as far as i want to go for now. Very cool that I just came across this video. What i found interesting when ordering the parts, the parts guy spoke with the Service manager cam back told me he ordered everything (take about a week) but said that the service manager said “You dont need The Lifter Cuffs” I said NO….You dont understand, I WANT them replaced, and he sort of argued with me asking repeatedly WHY? I finally said because the ones Harley built this engine with Like with so many other parts Hum lets see Plastic Tran Cover, Insufficient oil pump improperly vented pressure with the blow by issue) and The CUFFS are PLASTIC and are known to TWIST, then the rollers on the bottom of the lifters can rotate…NOT GOOD. His reply…Oh we haven’t heard of THAT happening. I have and will be glad to point you to the many instances, i also dont beLIEve they haven’t heard it.

[@tommybrinkley1089]

I have been watching you for 2 years, I subscribed today because sick wide glide keeps fussing at me... lol

[@BlockheadMoto]

Thanks! haha

[@soldier09r]

That reaction at the end lmao definitely worth it haha

[@rolfgrandstaff2342]

Awesome! Thanks guys. Informative, fun, and entertaining video. Best I've seen. I have a Road King Stage 1 which is plenty of power for an old fart like me who's been riding for 50+ years now. Interested in stage 2 maybe but is there a trade-off between power and engine reliability/lifespan when you go to stage 2? If the motor is breathing and working that much more (due to more duration and lift of cam), are you in effect shortening its life and reliability on the road for those long cross country trips? (Maybe I think about this too much since I'm 70+ years old.) Any thoughts appreciated.

[@Firestorm637]

Great video as usual with outstanding explanations. I have spent thousands on both car and motorcycles engine mods. Engine mods are the most expensive vs let’s say suspension mods. Truthfully, Unless you really spend thousands you may notice better throttle response and that is that. More cost effective to buy the horsepower from the factory. You must go to forced induction to really make serious power. Intakes, headers, exhaust, cams, all effect drivability. It takes a lot of cash to drop 1 sec off 0-60 or quarter mile runs.

[@dylanperkins4484]

I'm ashamed to say I haven't watched the channel for awhile bec I've been getting away from the motorcycle content but I decided to come back and I love the way the channel has come keep up the good work 👍

[@jl3415]

Awesome tips in this video. Do you need to break in a cam?

[@jonrinoandreassen5431]

Chris the magician doin' magic stuff. Thanks guys for teaching us all this expertise!!!

[@davidmcguren3225]

Yes mate, the air gets sucked in not pushed in, nice vid, the hat suits bro, thanx for the info😎