Harley vs Indian Touring Models

[@JohnMcCagueSells]

The clear winner is the customer...choice is good...buy what you like!

[@JohnnyRebKy]

That is the best comment ever about which is better! Bravo man. I totally agree

[@mikenowakowski5369]

Glad to see a review that didn't go to the highest bidder. Keep up with the great work. Would really like to get a chance to ride with you someday. I'm an Army vet got a laundry list of things wrong with me but I love to ride. Did the saddlesore 1000 last summer all by myself on a 08 wide glide,I think it was 18.5 hrs. Have a great day

[@adamsandoval]

Thank You for my Freedom sir.

[@mikenowakowski5369]

You keep up the good work and getting the word out.

[@old-wookie]

great stuff old mate , I have owned both HD and Indian over the years, I now have a 2018 JACK DANIEL limited INDIAN CHIEFTAIN and I have been half way around Australia on this bike and everything you said about INDIAN is SPOT ON, and because Iam 63 years old horse power does not concern me, comfort and handleing DOES and thats what I have with my Indian, the only complaint I have is not from me but my WIFE, the pillion seat could be alot more comfortable. GOOD WORK son.

[@adamsandoval]

peter kiem I am glad you have found it the same

[@JohnnyRebKy]

BOTH. I want a Chieftain for comfort and long rides. I want a HD Heritage Softail with some power mods for local rips 👍

[@wesleyalexander8814]

Great job I’m glad you made it to the way you did I was Harley would’ve stayed with you buddy but great great blog keep up the good work stay safe coming to see you in the spring down the campground

[@danshobbies13]

Based on your opinion, you have to upgrade from a street glide to a Road glide for long distance travel. But that’s not a fair comparison then. Would you ride the Street glide coast to coast over the Indian? That’s the question.

[@adamsandoval]

Dan Bogardo it depends on the type of trip.

[@homgkong076]

I am really hoping for a frame mounted fairing as long as it's not really ugly. The only reason I would part with my Springfield.

[@clundrach4701]

I have to say that your videos are appearing a lot more relaxed lately - keep it up

[@conradangel8602]

To all the critics out there. I find it very rude to criticize the author since he puts put unbiased opinions and put a lot of work on to this. Be encouraging or all those guys will quitt doing us this great service. Btw i am. Harley/Bmw guy but cant wait to sit on an Indian if they come up with a naked muscle cruiser like my Fatboy

[@robertphillips4155]

Nice video and great tips, thanks. I love my FatBoy but really like the BMW Touring bikes. Have you tried any of them? I’m not sure about long-haul.

[@adamsandoval]

Hoping to do a review in the future. Stay tuned.

[@all-yw2yr]

Great video great info, thanks!

[@adamsandoval]

Thanks for being part of this channel 👊🇺🇸😎

[@hillbillygrizzly7045]

With the Ledgend suspension on your road glide does it make it even with the fox on the Indian or is the fox suspension still better ??? Thanks GODBLESS

[@adamsandoval]

the Legends helped A LOT.. But still did not give it the travel of the HD. Its the frame and suspension design that separates the Indian here

[@matthewlidel4324]

Great video 👍🏻👍🏻

[@richardturner4074]

Great review Adam. Both are wonderful machines. I am currently trying to decide on which one to get. I a very torn. As it pertains to the HP on the cheiftain, I feel as though that is something that can be remedied. As with any bike. I did some research, and Indian can install the 116 big bore kit right from the factory. They people that have it, have said that it solves the HP issue. Also, along with that an air intake upgrade as well. I also have seen videos where cats have also put in Lloyd's performance cams in addition to the 116 kit and the intake. Some may not want to spend the money, but if you plan on having the bike for a long time and doing alot of long distance riding and HP is important to you, it is worth the money in my opinion. Once again great review. God bless.

[@splodge5714]

Love my 2001 Sportster 1200S. Wont be buying a Scout to replace it !!

[@fxrst_anvers6976]

Sharknose rules great vid Adam 👌🏻

[@davidday2965]

Honda shadow lmao never worry about breaking down or plan your trip based on what city has repair shops with harly and indain

[@Cometocanadabut]

Adam. This is a very honest review. But when you talk about fixed fairing I don’t agree because you’re comparing between two different bikes . But if you compare Indian with street Glide , I think Indian will win. I owned different Harley’s in the past few years and I wasn’t happy with my Street Glide special 2017. I didn’t like the handling, I didn’t feel good in cornering. The only reason I choose it over road Glide although I like the handling of the road Glide but I don’t like the bulky fairing. Also I cannot see myself riding Road Glide in the city. Few weeks ago I went to Indian dealer and I took the Indian for a ride. Man , I was shocked by how this bike handling in any type of road. Very comfortable. I traded my Street Glide with the Indian Chieftain Dark Horse the same one you have and I cannot complaint. For the first time I felt I don’t need to spend tons of money to upgrade anything. Even it sounds good out of the box with the stock pipes. If I am looking for power , I won’t by Harley or Indian to be honest. My number one I am looking for are enjoyment and comfort. I think overall, Indian doing a good job year after year.

[@robertahunter8017]

Awesome review Adam. Thank you...… How is Ashley? Well I hope.

[@cash2nrg]

Great analysis.. Thank you

[@graywolfhd]

Adam great review! Question knowing you had the Legends put on your Roadglide, how does that compare. ? I think your review was based on stock components. Thank you in advance.

[@bikerboot9096]

Love my street glide, but the suspension sucks.

[@billylines]

Harley for me but a fair and honest review. 👍👍

[@skyrider7527]

Do you ever clean your windshield and bike?

[@adamsandoval]

about ever 6k or 3 weeks.

[@skyrider7527]

Man, that's a lot of bug guts. @@adamsandoval

[@gadams51883]

The main thing you forgot Adam was will Indian be around 5 years this time or 10, maybe 20? Indian has come and gone a couple of times since I've been riding and any of my riding friends who bought one always wished they had a Harley when the companies fizzled out. With Polaris owning them maybe they'll be around 100 years or maybe Polaris will decide to whittle down the brand. Just too much of an unknown for +25K. I hope Indian does stay around because their R&D will push Harley just like the Goldwing has over the years. Great video, be safe out there!!

[@adamsandoval]

Very true points, My retort would be have you tracked the HD stocks of late? I would say if any company is looking at a risk of not being around the next 10 years by number it would be HD.

[@FNGMOTO]

jerry adams I believe Indian will be around for years to come. Polaris is a smart, well ran company. They discontinued the victory line to focus completely on Indian. If they were still making the Vic’s then I wouldn’t be so sure.

[@Aprojeep]

I choose Victory!

[@saddle8bag]

I think you're kinda missing the boat. If I want to tour, I want to know about GVWR. I want to know luggage capacity. I want to know which one will bake my nuts faster. I want to know fuel range. I want to know maintenance requirements. A 6 hp difference on a 900 lb motorcycle is about as an important a difference as having 7 or 8 M&Ms on your ice cream cone.

[@bykrydr1380]

My man did say this was all based on his O-pinion of the stock numbers facts. I get what u sayin tho.

[@Mowk86]

I can confirm that the indian will roast your nuts way faster than the harley. I had read about the 111 in the indian being a chestnut roaster. Before I upgraded from my dyna to a RGS, I had test rode an indian bagger similar to this one, along with a road glide and street glide. The reports are true. Sweaty ol' bag in no time lol.

[@christophercollins868]

@@Mowk86, that is my only complaint with the Indian 111 and from my own research have also seen its a common one. The bike performs beautifully, regardless. But this summer will be my first on it, so we will see how it feels in 110 degree temps with 50% or more humidity. Im not confident that heat deflectors will make a huge difference. Its nice in the winter though, didnt feel the need for buying a seat warmer with temps in the 30s.

[@randymaurer8218]

The Indian does ride hotter with the 2 into one stock pipes. Once I switched to true duals, the heat was very comparable between Road glide and Roadmaster.

[@randymaurer8218]

The Indians have the bigger bags and trunks if your comparing H-D full dresser with the Roadmaster. Indian has bigger bags. Honestly I don't feel it's enough to be a major selling point. What made me switch for HD to Indian, was the ride. The overall ride experience is way better on Indian. However, Both company's are great in my opinion, and you can't go wrong no matter what you ride, as long as you ride!

[@2hotFL]

Really like the Indians but I'll stick with Harley for one reason; I've got 4 Harley dealers to one Indian dealer in my area. I've also got many independent shops around here to choose from that can work on my Harley.

[@battlebornhd3030]

Good review man, thanks for the comparison. A little competition is only going to improve both brands and gives the American consumer better options and ultimately promotes motorcycling. I’m an HD fan to the bone but I like to focus on the positives of both of these brands.

[@paulbunyun-xi9by]

needing repair while traveling HD dealership along the road in most big cities

[@Farmer2492]

yes plenty of parts in china

[@lcganter]

And pay way too much, while getting repairs.

[@fanboy5769]

Indian vs Harley. Neither answer is wrong. Horsepower or Comfort. Buy the motorcycle that gets you out there to enjoy the road. I own a Victory and absolutely love it. When I’m ready for a new bike it will be Road Glide or Dark Horse. Adam thank you for the honest review and as a active serving Marine myself thank you for all you have done and continue to do for veterans.

[@johnhsconiers2096]

I own a victory I rode the Indian one of the best riding bikes I've ridden I was impressed.that road glide is a good looking bike I must say.the Gold wing is a beast beutifull and powerful.keep on riding people.God bless.

[@threehemis5566]

From what I have heard in other reviews the Indian in sport mode is a beast. I wonder if those few extra HP of the 114 would even be noticed in comparison. Excellent comparison review!

[@sergiocastro588]

I also have a Victory, XC , the MOST reliable bike I’ve had by far , cool to ride on the curves , comfy and good looking. I would buy a dyna for having a city riding bike , but I Love the new chieftain

[@-Ainsworth-]

Which one is the comfort?

[@thollingsworth4910]

I agree, I own Victory. I love my bike but if you're riding it doesn't matter what it is.

[@frankscott8555]

Damn, I'm starting to dig the Indian. Great job.

[@MOUSEBOWEN]

Absolutely Indian all the way. Hayley’s over price . Indian Scout Bobber is so fast stock 100 HP and with modifications you can get up to 140 hp. Harley’s are to pricey

[@MOUSEBOWEN]

Bob Salt well i like the Harley Davidson 48 but when I saw the Indian scout Bobber 1200cc 100HP . same engine size but with way more horsepower and so much better looking I fall in love with the Indian scout Bobber. I’m not crazy about Harley’s I only like the Harley Davidson 48 not anymore compared to the Indian scout Bobber. Yeah they are no cheap but not as much as they Harley. Harley are complaining about Harley’s sales but they freakin crazy on prices. Just because is a Harley. Not my thing

[@brownsmvghaulin]

it's settled I'm getting the Indian

[@hogdogmoto]

Great video Adam. One thing I considered (trust me I went between Indian and HD for a full year) was the availability of aftermarket parts and accessories. Indian, for as good a bike as they make didn't have nearly as many aftermarket mods available. I'm sure this will be different in 5-10 years. I also considered the availability of HD vs Indian dealerships throughout the country. Should I ever break down in the middle of nowhere, Im likely to find an HD dealership closer than I would Indian. These were 2 major factors in making my decision. Kudos to you good sir! Keep up the great work!

[@richardturner4074]

That's what I'm struggling with right now. Hopefully I'll be able to buy my new bike next spring or summer. After market parts and dealer availability are my only concerns with Indian.

[@JLDock]

Have you considered the 116 big bore kit Indian now has? That would be comparable to your 114 on your Road Glide. Also Indian does have lower fairings with a push button that allows air to come through. All that being said, I am in love with the Road Glide. If Harley would put the electric windshield, push button locking bags and heated grips I would own one. Thanks for your review! Glad to see an unbiased review of both.

[@shakeypainter2]

Another great video Mr. Sandoval, as all ways. Read many of the comments and everything has already been said ! Oh yea there is one more thing 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 "We are American" thanks 4 what U do for all us Vets 🇺🇸

[@marcelodelaosa674]

That 116 Indian blows both those Harleys 107&114 out of the water!

[@chldof1truekng434]

Excellent review Adam. I agree with everything you said Especially the fixed faring. That's a wrap, Now grab a rag and clean those dirty pigs!😁✌

[@GearsGadgets]

100%, get a bike!! I just took my bike 6 hours for a slice of Apple Pie. It was incredible and wouldn’t have experienced it without my bike. Huge fan. Life is short, don’t spend it in bubble wrap, get out and experience stuff. Feel free to watch my Pie run: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp6We4qCgaaFnsk

[@andrewsumner5388]

Right on Adam great video! I love my Road Glide wouldn’t trade it for anything but if I had the means I would give the Indian brand a try and the same I would keep both!.... stay safe out there sir I appreciate what you do!

[@icebrakernh]

So glad you gave the honest review. I can't wait to get my Road Master. They do advertise 119 foot pounds of torque. The road master gives you the full vent option of the lowers. Can't wait to see the next review.

[@dakotaburns7551]

Greg Durkee I concur re: 119 foot pounds of torque. I have an 18 Roadmaster and love it! A bit hot on the right when temps are high but it appears Indian solves that issue in the 2019 models. (Plans for true duals (no cat) and high flow air filter should decrease heat by 30% on the 18 model.)

[@icebrakernh]

Thank you for your knowledge I like to hear from owners who have experienced enough of the bike. I would like to get the best out of the Road Master and the TS 111 . I'm looking to buy the 2018 left over still in the crate. I was told that I may want the power command tuner for it even with stock. What are your thoughts on this?

[@tobedetermined4180]

I believe, giving your review, most riders should get the Indian. There is only a handful of riders that will do the riding a Harley Davidson you showed us is capable of.

[@mojoeguitars129]

It’s like watching a comparison between cars... electronic windshield? No no, I’ll stick with no windscreen. Motorcycling in the purest of form

[@bykrydr1380]

Awesome comparison for those of us who go back m forth. I respect and love both the HD and Indian for there own old school traditions in America. Bottom line is I don't love or hate anyone for riding one or the other. We r all brothers n sisters on two wheels, with knees in the breeze. What I do say is "Ride American in America.". Another big way in supporting our great nation! As a veteran I can tell you that we absolutely have something as simple as owning and riding a bike as a PRIVILEDGE, to have the RIGHT, to roll on! It's a shame how not all human beings are afforded such a joy in their lives. Adam- we love ya and support ya big dawg! Keep on keepin on! Ride safe brother. #ASR #DICKtatorsSuck

[@adamsandoval]

It's all about the community and the love of riding

[@dakotaburns7551]

Excellent overview Adam! Am looking forward to your next overview on these great machines. Are you considering having Indian install the 116 into your bike?

[@stevexaxa3619]

yeah and i know your trying to do an honest review but i knew before it's done you say indian i can't remember all the past but harley kinda dropped you indian picked you up so yeah i did not expect you to say harley but i ride my 2017 road glide ultra and i'm very happy and yes i do ride from indiana to california about once a year to see family there

[@adamsandoval]

So I bet you were surprised I said in some situations HD is better.

[@fbcoach84]

Nice review. I chose between the Road glide and Indian. Both great bikes! I love the Road Glide. Rented for a weekend and no complaints. For me it simply came down to comfort and suspension. So I purchased and Indian. I am 52 and 6’4. Suspension really made the difference and torque before Harley upgraded engines in 2019. Also could have spent money to upgrade suspension on Harley but just couldn’t justify doing that. No hate both great just Indian was for me. Ride on everyone!

[@adamsandoval]

I can understand why you would say that.

[@davidmarsan6757]

How about the heat generated by Indian Dark Horses. Not comfy while in hot weather right? Can you address this issue? Thanks Adam.

[@adamsandoval]

David Marsan They address this issue in the 19s with cylinder shut offs. I had no issues with heat at all

[@BarrettPowell]

Nice and fair review. Couldn't agree more. I do multiple long trips a year as well. So when it came time to add a stablemate to my BMW GSA long distance bike, I went and test road both the Street Glide and the Chieftain. The Street Glide felt more "put together". Everything about it was evidence of a company that has been doing this a long time...uninterrupted. But the Indian handled better and like you said had a plusher ride. But I really liked having more power. Easy fix...I had the dealer install the all Indian 116 Big Bore Kit before delivery. This kit includes the Indian Stage 1 Intake, Stage 2 Exhaust, and Stage 3 CAMs, Rods, Pistons, and various other supporting parts. This is the Indian equivalent of the HD 117 CVO. On the Indian, tuned properly with a Dynojet PCVX the bike puts down more than 123 HP and 144 TQ. Interestingly enough, the 2018 HD Road Glide 117 CVO that dynoed in front of me put down 93.75 HP and 112.51 TQ.

[@TheIndianscout]

I think Indian will be putting the 116 as standard equipment for 2020 on the Chiefs.

[@jasonritter2492]

I know the history of how the Harley and Indian all came about but that Indiana just dont have the look of the Harley and I don't disrespect any biker but I grew up Harley and will stand Harley no matter what

[@randymaurer8218]

Great Review Adam, If you don't mind me pitching in my review as well. I have 150,000 Miles between HD- '05 Super glide, '06 Street Bob,'10 Heritage, '11 Street Glide, and my last H-D '13 Road Glide. I now own a 2016 Indian Roadmaster. Now keep in mind my Road glide was a 103 and the Roadmaster is of course a 111. I agree 100% a Fixed Fairing motorcycle is much easier for long trips because the wind just rolls off the Fairing. Where Attached to the fork Fairings on the Indian Chieftians and Roadmasters, and H_D Street Glide and Ultras can be a bit more work during windy times. That being said all fairing bikes are great to ride on long trips. I rode from Southern Az to Northern Wisconsin on a Street Bob, and the Iron but part of that was awful, but lets face it, Motorcycles are just fun to ride! anyway I digress. The power, torque, suspension, stereo, balance and overall comfort in the Roadmaster was way better than my Street Glide or Road Glide. Now we are comparing power and torque of a set of 103's vs 111. A riding brother of mine went out with me to see the difference on the pavement head to head, He has a '13 Street Glide VS my Roadmaster. RM has more power and torque and in 5th or 6th gear really pulls away from the SG after about 50-60MPH. I don't have to downshift the RM to pass. The SG did. The RM is a bigger heavier bike and smaller Gas Tank, so the SG get a bit better MPG's and slightly bigger gas tank turns into more stops for the Indian than the H-D. Now I used to be able to drag the shit out of my floor boards on every H-D I owned, on both sides. Meaning I could lean much harder and faster in the curves on all my touring H-D's. However the seats on all of them were a little high for my 30' inseam. The RM has a lower seat and the exhaust is hung much lower. So when I lean hard, I destroy my pipes before I get to the floorboards. I have 12,000 MI on my Indian Roadmaster, and other than leaning harder and faster in twisty roads, the indian is far superior. Now H-D has the 117 so they are more powerful. However there is a 116 upgrade option for all Indian 111's, so then we are back to even when it comes to Horse power and torque. any spelling or grammar errors, I apologize, I've been piecing this together while at work. Bottom line for me after 160,000+ miles of riding......get what you want, and what you can afford. Being on two wheels regardless of make is what it's all about. I personally could never own a Goldwing, because of my biases. However, I will admit, the 2019 Goldwings are fast more powerful and more nimble than any American made bike. (That was so painful to say!) So, as of right now I prefer Indian, to HD. I still would love to have a Street Bob for an around town bike! However in the long run, all this competition is best for us the riders! Be safe everyone, keep the rubber side down, and get your bike out of the garage!!!

[@shepherd8203]

I ride Indian Springfield and a few things to add. It runs very hot even with the catalytic converter out. Few dealerships to get anything fixed plus there’s are very little selection for aftermarket and parts. no upgrades on brakes customizing etc.Good bike but HD is still out in front.

[@30retlawable]

The HP and torque are slightly higher on the HD, but is 10 pounds heavier and it cost $1090 more. My little brain started trying to think. Lloyds 585 cams $625.00 Voodoo A/c $500 Plugs knock of on factory pipes $0.00 PCVX $349.00 Total $1474 - 1090= $384 Bucks for 100hp/120 Tq and I have not Tune my bike yet. Im expecting a little higher Hp/Tq numbers after Tuning. I would pick the Indian hands down.

[@JessEMasteR]

Awesome review! I am in love with the Indians and plan to buy one in the near future; either a Springfield or a Chieftain, however, I frequently rent Harleys through Eagle Rider and have more miles on them, and I really loved the road glide and Harley's Milwaukee Eight, it's just such a nice engine. Having ridden both bikes in your review, I completely agree with your analysis, thanks again!

[@markharrison5712]

GREAT VIDEO !!! For me ??? It's all about the ride / comfort .I've done the coast to coast gig a few time's . I own a way old 86 Goldwing ( Barn find ) . It's a couch !!! From what I got here ??? I would go with the Indian . I'm sure you could bump the motor up one way or the other and what you needed . Each their own ??? AS LONG AS YOUR IN THE WIND !!!

[@bear304inc5]

What a difficult line to balance, but you did a great job. It's comparing two very capable machines. Way to keep it fair Sandoval.....

[@adamsandoval]

Thank you

[@williambalyx1053]

Rode my 2018 Road Glide Ultra, with a stage 2 power cam (107ci) in it from British Columbia Canada to Newfoundland and back last year. Bike ran 100% no problems in any weather... didn't hit any snow thankfully. Great ride best i've ever had. Buddy has a 2020 Indian Challenger and yeah he can pull away from me but at 63 years old I'm okay being 1 .5 secs behind him. For me the Road Glide Ultra any day

[@motordawg8376]

Great review Adam. Thank you for all you do for veterans; kudos to you buddy. Rubber side down and keep the vlogs coming👍🏼

[@jerry-riverbluffbaggers3910]

Great video! Adam your did a great job explaining the difference.

[@adamsandoval]

Thank you

[@veronicianyveronica5290]

Thank you very much for your review! Excellent show!👍👍👍👍🤜🤜🤜🤜

[@jimwortham8634]

For a serious long-distance touring router H&D best dealer Network around whether you like them or not

[@davidoakley9387]

Very good point hadn't thought of that !

[@tschense13]

I am a Harley freak 🤣🤣 but after i saw your videos i buy me this week a Indian Chieftain DarkHorse. Thanks and Greetings from Germany Jens

[@6431harry]

Really good review. One thing I would like to see is how much it cost to service a HD and a Indian the first year or a certain amount of miles. The lower the maintenance the better! I ride a 2011 Victory Cross country. The only complaint is that the air filter is under the front part of the tank. Otherwise oil, trans, and primary are all lubed. Easy and no issues. I want ride, time not shop time. Hope the campground is doing well! Be safe.Thanks again for a great review.

[@jandblawncare8570]

Good no BS review, I just can't get over the ugly fairings on Indians, even the one in the video is too blocky for me and they stole HD's vent design. I absolutely love my 18 RGS and like you said the RG's shark nose is the best on the hi way! You probably can't go wrong with either one but another important factor which is why I went with Harley is their dealer/support network, I don't think Indian is there yet.

[@Skooter1661]

i added the bars, and the highway pegs to my 2019 darkhorse before you even suggested it in the other video, i knew it was missing. but being around mc's i have had members gauking at my bike, throwingthier legs over it, feeling the balance. and all of them fell in love with it. the bike is awesome, im loving it. and my next mod isnt needed but i just want it, and that's the bigger cams. air cleaner, also the true duel exhaust replacement. its going to be amazing.

[@jimdaniels3542]

On my 2018 Roadmaster I got an exhaust leak. Pulled the trim off for the studs and they were very loose. Tightened up and all good.. Indian extras are very pricey too, if you do get one of these check out the aftermarket accessories. They're getting more popular and more is coming out. Save some money

[@Sig721Tau]

Harley thinking= "Instead of fixing our current engine issues (88"---96")...let's just build another motor and throw it in next years model". Everyone else= "For next year, we will address current model year issues and resolve them for our loyal customers". Harley= "Yeah, well. We have pretty colors". Others= "We will have invested a lot of money in R&D to help improve the overall quality of our line up to make our customers happy". Harley= "Um, we have loud pipes".

[@k9m42]

Umm your just an idiot...

[@philpfirrmann7729]

A couple things that I'd like to know is, Are the service interval's the same for both bikes? Do the tires last about the same amount of miles?. And are common parts like plugs and brakes, batteries equally easy to replace if you should need to when on the road?.,,,

[@rafaelmorenocuevas5028]

Love them both! My question has to do with support. Does Indian have just as many dealerships as Harley to support it´s riders "whereever" they ride?

[@jeffmorris739]

Here in Nashville the Harley dealerships are much more active with the customers. I ride a Vulcan so I don't have a dog in this fight but from a support point of view I think Harley is much better at it and there is more of a Harley culture here.

[@rafaelmorenocuevas5028]

@@jeffmorris739 Thank you so much for your comments!!

[@icebrakernh]

One thing I have found is not every one can become a Indian dealership unlike Harley. I have 3 Indian dealers near me well that's if a hour or 3 is close by when I have 5 Harley dealers with in 30 minutes to a hour away from me. With all of the recent Harley Davidson recalls I can see why they have so many every where.

[@FNGMOTO]

No, Harley has a much substantial dealership network than Indian. I like the Indian dealership experience more but that’s just my experience. I own 2 Indians and I’m within 2 hours of 3 dealerships. That didn’t bother me but it might put off some.

[@benjaminmeyers38]

That's one draw back about owning a Indian. Not enough dealerships. I live in Alabama and the nearest one to me is 80 miles away. The do need to address this if they want to sell more bikes.

[@acef4389]

excellent review,fair and honest,I rode both bikes,i own a 18 fltrxs,I thought the Indian was underpowered and the ride was not all that,I am. 6ft4 so I was trying to figure out how to do bars and a windshield on the Indian,I believe that it will make both mocos step it up as they should,I believe Indian will come on this year in sales and a couple of years down the road harley will come with liquid cooled baggers,and it will be over for Indian good luck man,love your cause

[@DarkHorseParatrooper]

The indian does have closeable vents, I have the ACTUAL TOURING MODEL, the Roadmaster. It has them.

[@garyhackmann2880]

I got a Gilroy Indian can't keep together got to much money in it to ever get rid of got 2017 limited one thing about Harley you can find dealership everywhere take a Indian across country have issues good luck finding dealership to fix close by

[@BoreSight1973]

Great review Adam! Thx for the info

[@dadtrap]

Very straight and honest. Sometimes is Harley owners get a little snobby and don’t even consider other males. As far as fairings I had a 2012 road glide but now I have a 2018 ultra limited and can crush as many miles with the batwing fairing as I could with a fixed wing fairing. I use to hate batwings but I found out it’s the Rider not the ride

[@Big.Ron1]

I have a 05 heritage with 103 kit. Use it for local riding. I would love to add an Indian as a stable mate. But, I'm thinking my next bike, if I am able to get one will be a Beemer. I'm thinking since I ride solo, an RT is the way to go. The only real competition BMW has for ultra long haul comfort and speed is the Goldwing. Yet they are different enough to have their own slice of the pie. I see it as Harley and indian are RT 66 bikes, riding and stopping every hour or two, where the Beemer and Goldwing are true interstate mile eating machines and also extremely good in the twisties and backroads. I have seen more than 1 sport bike put to shame by these beemers and even the new goldwings. I say this as a Harley rider exclusively since 77. But as I get older I am looking real hard at the beemers. Due to injury and age I need more comfort as well as performance. I will keep my old heritage until I have to hang up my leather for good but there is now room in both my mind and garage for a new bike. I've never owned new but have built a few. These are just my thoughts. There is no right or wrong. Be safe, have fun.

[@davidgiles5030]

I've had both the BMW and a Wing. The wing is my bike of choice. Twisties or 4 lane it has the edge. There's a Honda dealer in almost every town,not that you ever need one.

[@leathers970]

62 panhead 97 fat boy 06 pig roadking 46 Indian chief no more bikes for me .maybe a shovelhead

[@djlarryb68]

Thanks for sharing! I’m considering a Road Glide Special or Ultra Road Glide Special for my next bike.

[@thomasanderson4664]

It's like lifting Weights, Harley and Indain need eachother . So they both can out do foreign bikes.

[@Rdullen2]

Great review. One of the few I've seen that didn't seem one sided.

[@liamoboyle2065]

I hope to get to USA tsoon and I might bring my triumph thunderbird if chancellor I will stay have to discuss my options with my friend so if only be there 6 months or so I just think I be looking at ga triumph in America still got to research what America has done to the triumph to likely make he more attractive

[@rockiemountin7535]

You cannot use street glide rear suspension it has 2” less than the rest of Harley touring bikes

[@Motorcycle.Travels]

MAN! $27000 for a road gilde. Overhere They cost about $37000

[@jeffhelm7581]

Great video Adam, I loved your points on the future of these bikes. I dig the mono shock for the cruisers..... I think HD needs to have an adjustable windscreen as well. Here's a big thing for me. Customer service? I've had horrible luck w/ HD. I don't think I'll buy another and my two kids will be getting bikes soon. NO HD's for them until they clean up their act. My local dealerships service depts. are tools if you ask me....... I regret not staying at your campsite while out for the Paris HD gig. I'm heading your way this Summer for sure!

[@adamsandoval]

see you then!

[@keithroy7884]

I thought you were going to review them, and offer new insight. Anyone can read specs, and without crappy audio and added crappy music to make it more annoying.

[@caseymulligan7876]

Great job Adam - excellent review!

[@Boordog]

For a guy that rides a road king, no radio, infotainment, or faring (just a windshield) Gimme the HD. More power to pass and stay ahead is important to me.

[@aerynfelice4318]

With my back the Indian wins out for the comfort but I am a third generation Harley lover but that was the past and the future is INDIAN !

[@markbarrett1420]

Adam, you are 100% correct. Mono shock is where it’s at as for handling. Harley already has been changing frames to this configuration. (Softails) you will see it move to the touring bikes, you know how they operate. Keep making great videos brother.

[@michaelbrangham8914]

Your review was great, I think Im going to set up a test ride for the Indian. thanks

[@nativetrikeboy]

I always say ride wat your comfortable with I ride a 2010 harley tri Glide tour for me it’s perfect for touring I can carry so much and I’ll even carry some extra tools and other things for my friends I’ll carry some of there stuff they got no room for

[@McondeFPV]

Thanks Adam ! Cool review

[@morrisdennis]

Indian doesn't have enough dealerships 4 me, not enough seasoned techs imo. Hd has uber more accessories compared 2 indian.

[@brianremington]

Great video! Love my Springfield. Don’t forget the 111 has an upgrade to a 116 just like HD does for the 107-114.

[@TrailRider1200]

111-116 for Thunder Stroke, 107-114 for Milwaukee 8 107, and 114-117 for the Milwaukee 8 114. Can't go wrong with any of them

[@morrisdennis]

I've heard about 4 horror stories about Indian motorcycles...

[@powerpill67]

Too bad you don't have the cross country vic to put in the mix. Ride it till the wheels fall off.

[@NorCal-refrigeration]

powerpill67 ya this video shows how good the victory freedom 106 compares to the M8 and TS 111, the 106 smokes them both stock. For 1/2 the price. And now 3/4 the price.

[@sixshooter4570]

Yeah I really love my 2013 Cross Country Tour but am seriously considering the Indian.

[@NorCal-refrigeration]

sixshooter4570 I’m on 2015 highball and tour on it. I’m checking the Indian also.

[@sixshooter4570]

@@NorCal-refrigeration Those highball's are nice.

[@timhollingsworth4693]

The freedom 106 is a stout engine. I own a 2013 Boardwalk that puts 95 horses to the wheel and 115 ft lbs of torque to the wheel.

[@bicmitchum4091]

There is way better options out there for motorcycles for the amount of cash you would be spending on either of these. Your paying for "the look" and "lifestyle" and so called "brotherhood" for the Harley. Been there done that lol

[@juanguajardo8007]

Great !!! keep up the good work, review a Suzuki boulevard if you get the chance

[@tysoncott7402]

meh, the 13 & up yamaha fjr1300’s would hand both of these bikes there ass’s.

[@mrclean28h]

As always well done and I agree a personal preference no doubt. I would prefer the Road Glide Triked out with Kool Trikes could not afford it

[@dennism103]

Just choose a bike and ride, I came from bmw dealers are scarce and can rarely get u in immediately like hd can. And hd technicians know their shit...