Harold Pinter's The Homecoming - "Glass of Water"

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twelveangrymen

twelveangrymen

Күн бұрын

Excerpt from Peter Hall's 1973 film of Pinters play. Starring Ian Holm, Paul Rogers and Vivien Merchant.

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@MaryHarper
@MaryHarper 17 жыл бұрын
one of the best most shockin theatre lines for me (delivered perfectly here|) is "if you take that glass, I'll take you" no one's better than pinter
@vinm300
@vinm300 2 жыл бұрын
One still wonders - what does it mean ?
@jasonhurd4379
@jasonhurd4379 Жыл бұрын
Vivien Merchant was married to Pinter for several years. If anyone knew how to deliver his lines perfectly, it was she.
@wgaule
@wgaule 17 жыл бұрын
I could watch this little scene over and over and never get bored.
@witchywoman2008
@witchywoman2008 12 жыл бұрын
Ian Holm is wonderful in this play. His performance is breathtaking.
@jimmindway3978
@jimmindway3978 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Pinter deserves all the accolades he received. Never tire of watching' The Homecoming'. Also great to listen to the MP3 version. RIP Harold.
@CultureJudge
@CultureJudge 11 жыл бұрын
For God's sake someone upload the whole movie. This cast is INCREDIBLE. Holm is just stunning.
@theonlyantony
@theonlyantony 4 жыл бұрын
Thank’s, Ian. I admired your purity
@nickstone1587
@nickstone1587 2 ай бұрын
Untroubled by conscience or delusions of morality
@LisaNova
@LisaNova 15 жыл бұрын
Ian Holm is so great. - Lisa
@dimwitpinkbigbiblob
@dimwitpinkbigbiblob 14 жыл бұрын
@bakerj02 Sam also tries to get power.... his role in the play is the secret bearer, he knows about jessie and mac and perhaps, when he collapses in the end of the play just shows how makes a final attempt to gain power by blurting out the secret he knows, sees no one's paying heed and collapses...
@michaeligoe3935
@michaeligoe3935 7 жыл бұрын
Vivien Merchant is sensational in this.
@fAatuPfenG
@fAatuPfenG 16 жыл бұрын
I did this drama course in my University last year and I was Lenny. I could actually feel that sense of absurdity in this scene when I was doing it. Spectacular. Sir Ian Holm is just amazing.
@notboring0
@notboring0 3 жыл бұрын
My mom would pick me up early from High School to go to screenings of The American Film Theater series. This was the best. Their version of The Iceman Cometh was also excellent, starring Lee Marvin.
@michaelcrowe
@michaelcrowe 17 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best film I've seen too. Thanks for posting!
@SunrizeRay
@SunrizeRay 17 жыл бұрын
Cool, We're actually doing this exact extract in our theatre studies class. It'll definitely be of some use. Thanks for posting!
@KenshiRyden
@KenshiRyden 16 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting my Advanced Higher English exam tomorrow and I'm just scanning around for any snippets of the Homecoming I can find for added understanding (and to test my knowledge). I have to say, we watched this film in class, and it's an excellent rendition of the brilliant play. Paul Rogers as Max couldn't be more perfect, and it gets the biting, hostile tone of the drama perfectly. Possibly my favourite play... I'm gonna have to think about that one.
@palendromebob
@palendromebob 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Ian; huge talent.
@lemontelevision
@lemontelevision 12 жыл бұрын
Ian Holm. From this to The Fifth Element. Just as good 40 years later.
@almadora
@almadora 18 жыл бұрын
more, ohhh more... he's gorgeous!!
@jmichaelbaran9724
@jmichaelbaran9724 2 жыл бұрын
Vivian Merchant.....Harold Pinter's wife...and one of the most underrated...and unused...actresses in modern acting history...
@danjameson1572
@danjameson1572 3 жыл бұрын
Paul Rogers as the Father. Fantastic.
@anthonyblend694
@anthonyblend694 3 жыл бұрын
"Ow about me takin' the glass without you takin' me?"
@VoxJoxx
@VoxJoxx 14 жыл бұрын
I have never watched this before but i hope i have read this right, that Pinter is cleverly portraying the typical masculine icon that symbolizes power consumed by self fed lies but he is illustrating through the woman how that corrupt power is just an illusion, it is like the man, week and small but still trying to manipulate the woman, she recognizes this and over powers him reversing the roles, effectively stripping away the iron veil.
@tomshea8382
@tomshea8382 2 жыл бұрын
She's not Teddy's wife, but sometimes I wonder if any of the men are actually related at all. Is this just a house full of wierdos? "Jessie" was Scots slang for a gay man, so sometimes I wonder if anything has ANY basis in reality in the play.
@Wordman67
@Wordman67 17 жыл бұрын
Can you please post more clips from "The Homecoming"? There are so many great scenes, between Max and Teddy, between Max and Sam, and many others. It's one of the greatest plays ever written, in my humble opinion, and this film is a superb rendition of it.
@goodman9500
@goodman9500 12 жыл бұрын
im doing the play off this and i am playing lenny - cant wait
@isitme88
@isitme88 14 жыл бұрын
@SweeneyTodd109 It's available on Amazon for about thirteen quid.
@mogwai4000
@mogwai4000 17 жыл бұрын
But... Lenny's a nutter! *Pause* Thanks for this video... I'm revising the play for my English exam tomorrow and... hell... it sure beats reading it... *Pause* The infamous Pinter pause strikes.
@dandiacal
@dandiacal 14 жыл бұрын
@vivienmerchant Is this THE Vivian Merchant, the great actress? It is an honor to have you on youtube. That is all I have to say.
@charlischmarly323
@charlischmarly323 16 жыл бұрын
cant wait for kristin school year 13 productiooonn :D yuuss!!
@randomdave30
@randomdave30 13 жыл бұрын
Freud defined the family as 'a circle of love and hate' and The Homecoming epitomises this on a conscious and subconscious level.
@goback3spaces
@goback3spaces 14 жыл бұрын
This scene reads better than it plays. In this clip, at least.
@KurtMcGowan
@KurtMcGowan 13 жыл бұрын
Awkward and tension levels are so high in this scene!!! x
@edmund184
@edmund184 14 жыл бұрын
@Jeremyschoonhoven Well Sartre turned it down. Pinter should have refused in protest at the Peace Prize given to Kissinger, Arafat, FW De Clerk. The fact remains Nobel is no measure of greatness.
@tomshea8382
@tomshea8382 2 жыл бұрын
But this fucking play is. Take a fucking lane.
@realshowman
@realshowman 6 жыл бұрын
I'm learning this for my showreel. Any tips for playing Lenny? Thanks in advance
@smakdoubt
@smakdoubt 5 жыл бұрын
The Real Showman: Do you detect a certain incoherence in the central affirmations if Christian theism? ; ) Watch Ian Holm in Alien over and over again...his acting is beyond anyone I've ever seen and there are echoes of lenny in Ash... Also watch Lobster...it's all about the space and not so much what you put in it.
@dandiacal
@dandiacal 14 жыл бұрын
@dandiacal I certainly knew about the difficult divorce from H. Pinter, but I hadn't known she died so long ago. Thanks for that bit of cultural literacy. Cheers
@edmund184
@edmund184 14 жыл бұрын
Nobody's answered my criticism about Pinter excepting the Nobel Prize.
@PascallaTanna
@PascallaTanna 12 жыл бұрын
Where can I watch the whole movie?
@ajs41
@ajs41 4 жыл бұрын
www.dailymotion.com/video/x2vkk0a
@DrJones20
@DrJones20 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajs41 Thanks!
@BelatedCommiseration
@BelatedCommiseration 11 жыл бұрын
I think there is a bit of Pinter revisionism going...aboiut how great a dramatist the man really was and his real contribution. But most criticism of the man seems to stem from his politics and if it comes to his work critics who question it mostly make unfavourable comparisons to Beckett. Whilst the link between the two is obvious (as Becketts was to Joyce) Pinter definitely creates his own style in my opinion. I don't think anyone who has really read or seen the homecoming can doubt his skill.
@JayXL14
@JayXL14 8 жыл бұрын
DANCE APP ANS: clear off a GLASS OF WATER (read the TITLE LOL)
@moppettshow
@moppettshow 11 жыл бұрын
And then upload 'Nuts in May' too!
@edmund184
@edmund184 14 жыл бұрын
@holliesteelsucks No I was just being enigmatic. Introducing mispelt words to convey ambiguity and the hidden violence that lies behind language. I was just being Pinter-esque.
@ajs41
@ajs41 4 жыл бұрын
The whole film: www.dailymotion.com/video/x2vkk0a
@IirimaJen
@IirimaJen 13 жыл бұрын
@gleep111 You must not have read/seen any Sarah Kane.
@DUDEbuttersDUDE
@DUDEbuttersDUDE 12 жыл бұрын
Lol im doing this for my DRAMA GCSE and i play lennie. :)
@Rosamorrable
@Rosamorrable 13 жыл бұрын
when she says "have a sip from my glass"... does it have a sexual connotation?
@tommytimp
@tommytimp 6 жыл бұрын
Everything in this play is a sexual connotation. Yes. She's trying to turn Lenny's bravado back on him by emasculating him with a simple glass of water.
@dcasey77
@dcasey77 15 жыл бұрын
Why? Because it's a different opinion from yours? At least I was polite and considerate of other views when I raised my point.
@tedfaun2159
@tedfaun2159 10 жыл бұрын
There is an interesting minimalist style of acting used here, very dead pan, which leaves a lot of room to interpret pinters words but i dont feel its supposed to be as stylised as this. All though Pinter is meticulous with his words, pauses etc i dont feel it is to detract from the naturalistic style which i think it should be performed in. This is in the naturalistic genre but overly stylised as to detract from the believability of the actors. Instead of letting the words and pauses control what the actors can do and thus fall into this minimalist stylised naturilism, its the their job to work out exactly how to fit the words and pauses into a naturlistic believable performance of them. I dont think they quite managed this here. I want it to be more be more compelling... it shouldnt look odd. (in my opinion)
@ajs41
@ajs41 5 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, but I still quite enjoy this particular interpretation. As you say, it's a very minimalist performance, almost Zen-like in some respects.
@astat1
@astat1 12 жыл бұрын
Why do you think the old man might lie?
@tomshea8382
@tomshea8382 2 жыл бұрын
Because "lying" and "truth" don't really matter in the space of this play. Everything is a subconscious expression.
@janwilkins9291
@janwilkins9291 11 жыл бұрын
Excuse me but TV id unpoliced but there is a reason for film certification. Do you really hear about a family of men agreeing to accept there son's/brother's wife as a pimped out concubine?? I only did this at Degree level- the right time to study i think!
@tommytimp
@tommytimp 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think she's his wife at all. But every moment of this play is a sexual undertone, and the splintering and dysfunction of this family of men leads to the grotesquely logical conclusion that she decides to stay with "them" rather than "him" and it becomes almost Freudian, given the way they talk about their "dear Mother" who was probably also a whore.
@KurtMcGowan
@KurtMcGowan 13 жыл бұрын
@alexfuckinghiggins What kind of stuff do you like then?
@edmund184
@edmund184 14 жыл бұрын
@GogolBordelloLover Well, it would have made all his grand statements about power and hypocracy actually mean something.
@tomshea8382
@tomshea8382 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I know I'm speaking from the future and we have jetpacks and shit, but you can't even spell "hypocrite" correctly from one post to the next, plus all your bullshit is about the fucking Nobel prize. he won the Tony for this. Not the Nobel.
@deborahhughes6186
@deborahhughes6186 4 ай бұрын
Make me sweat
@CultureJudge
@CultureJudge 11 жыл бұрын
Then you need to reconsider your idea of 'right state of mind'.
@edmund184
@edmund184 14 жыл бұрын
@GogolBordelloLover Well you could watch a James Bond movie and get all the violence you need. But Bond movies are not High Art. Pinter got the Nobel Prize. Nobody's yet answered my point about Pinter accepting the Nobel Prize.
@barnabycross
@barnabycross 15 жыл бұрын
you wanna wotch what your saying mate
@dcasey77
@dcasey77 15 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this film on Channel 5. I don't mean this to cause offence but I can not understand what is supposedly so great about this. This would be dismissed as jibberish if Pinter wasn't the author. At least in Osborne's plays people spoke the way real people do and didn't talk nonsense. I thought Pinter was highly over-rated.
@tomshea8382
@tomshea8382 2 жыл бұрын
If Pinter weren't the author, no one would have written it this way. Duh. What the fuck does "speaking the way real people do" have to do with good or bad theater?
@gleep111
@gleep111 13 жыл бұрын
Most disturbing play ever.
@jishblaster
@jishblaster 13 жыл бұрын
@alexfuckinghiggins Why the hate brah?
@edmund184
@edmund184 14 жыл бұрын
@Jeremyschoonhoven He got the award then for politics not literature.
@SiFiClark
@SiFiClark 6 жыл бұрын
yeah this scene doesnt do justice to whats possible in this scene with inner emotion and play against
@edmund184
@edmund184 15 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm missing the hidden meaning. Pinter was inflated. He accepted the Nobel Prize which had gone to Henry kissinger, FW De Clerk & Yasser Arafat- men in power who had abused human rights. He condemned the world cup taking place in a fascist dictatorship- Argentina as an example of how the international elite allows oppression to reign alongside respectable culture. So Nobel is another example: giving awards to artists and murderers. Why didn't Pinter refuse it in protest? What a hypocrit
@tomshea8382
@tomshea8382 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, this is a scene from one of his plays. The protest bullshit you want is around the corner, in the alley.
@charliehenryrufus
@charliehenryrufus 13 жыл бұрын
lenny - the man.
@conewells
@conewells 13 жыл бұрын
Pinter was WAY ahead of his time with lines like "You bitch" (said to a guy) and "nomsayin'?" Lines you hear every day now by black guys.
@lloydisthebest
@lloydisthebest 12 жыл бұрын
I can't honestly figure out how anyone in his right state of mind would like this. Eww...
@zorki28
@zorki28 14 жыл бұрын
Am I the only person who thinks Pinter is silly?
@TimonofBath
@TimonofBath 5 жыл бұрын
Yes and no.
@ajs41
@ajs41 4 жыл бұрын
I find his plays menacing.
@manfromnocky
@manfromnocky 3 жыл бұрын
It is known as "the theater of the absurd" amongst other things so no, you are not alone.
@edmund184
@edmund184 15 жыл бұрын
Well it may be inflated but then Pinter was inflated. what with his Nobel Prize and awards and endless revivals. I mean people think he's a great writer. This is intellectually nothing more than a nasty edition of Eastenders.
@ColinBos1898
@ColinBos1898 15 жыл бұрын
"The human condition"? "Learning about life"? Christ, that sounds inflated.
@janwilkins9291
@janwilkins9291 11 жыл бұрын
What!!! Are you telling the truth? This is an incredibly filthy film- think its very wrong for them to be doing it at GCSE!
@tomshea8382
@tomshea8382 2 жыл бұрын
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