Harrowdeep Rivals Tournament - Grand Final - Tabletop Sydney - Warhammer Underworlds

[@kpuff2477]

I have really been enjoying this series. Thanks for showcasing the rivals format this way.

[@TabletopSydney]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it :D

[@poeteller]

Could you guys maybe record the prep step at the starting of the game in the future?🥺 Really wanna learn all the details about placing feature tokens and fighters from all these awesome players! Thank you so much! Love from Taiwan!!! 🙏

[@noctaeol]

16:55 though. Sweet gods of RNG :D

[@TabletopSydney]

This is every game Jacko plays. It's insane.

[@noctaeol]

@@TabletopSydney There was this one moment when he didn't and he was sincerely surprised it didn't work :D

[@kpuff2477]

"All i gotta do is roll two crits" immediatly rolls two crits. LMAO

[@TabletopSydney]

Always roll the dice! Sometimes the dice gods deliver!

[@jackogoeswacko4smackos]

The secret is angling your wrist just right. I'll show ya next time

[@BridgemillGamer]

GG! Was fun and interesting watching this tournament.

[@TabletopSydney]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the games :D

[@Atilakus]

Im almost positive that Tammael can do push. Guard = cannot be driven back, not preventing drive step from happening. Instead of driving back you push 1.

[@Olssonocholsson]

Yep

[@Hodgyish]

Yeah, he can still Push as it's different from Driven Back.

[@TabletopSydney]

Yeah that makes sense. Thank you!

[@kingbobb007]

The counter argument is that the ability is instead of the drive back. If there’s no drive back, there’s nothing to trigger the instead part of the ability.

[@Atilakus]

@@kingbobb007 That is also one way to interpret it. I think that generaly rules in tournamets etc is that these can push. Same is Arrow of Desire from Dread Paegant.

[@kingbobb007]

That did not go they way I thought it would, especially with the way the fish did Bahannar. Great event! Rivals really shakes up our ideas of where warbands sit in terms of power.

[@TabletopSydney]

Yeah, both the Myaris last games have had the mace man dying early, and I thought it was over from there but here we are! :D

[@lewisnielsen4559]

Loved the format (both tournament and Rivals rules) and would be keen to see more of this going forward. Especially good to see Idoneth and Lumineth up there. Congrats to Jacko on the win! There are some cool advantages to Rivals. I think it gives the potential for war bands to have a greater, more distinct identity, instead of everyone running a lot of the same universals. It also seems to force you to look at the fighter cards a bit more, as you can't compensate as much by stacking great strength or accuracy cards on fighters to compensate for their weaknesses. On the other hand, it does feel like luck could have a bigger role in Rivals games i.e. lots of dead/more situational cards - and obviously cutting out deck building removes a really interesting part of the game. My only suggestion would be that you introduce a best of three format, even if you only upload the best game of the three. This could control a bit more for luck. I totally get that this would not be viable, though, as it's a much bigger time investment. I also think it would be interesting to see players come back to war bands with the experience they have from this format, as they will better know the decks - e.g. what cards are coming up, what objectives are not worth going for, the little tricks that fighters can do.

[@TabletopSydney]

Great analysis on rivals, the only concern I have is that the cards are a bit too niche that the warbands feel solely like the fighter cards. I agree that championship felt a bit cookie cutter at the end of Direchasm (unsure about now), but there is a balance between decks and fighters that I am still unsure if it has been found. Regarding filming and Bo3's, it's tough. We meet once every few weeks and play 5-7 games in a session (setting up the gear and packing it down take a few hours so just rocking up for some pickup games isn't viable) so turning that into Bo3's means we have weeks of the same matchup (which I think gets stale) or we only release 1 game of the Bo3 and we have to meet every week to get 2 games uploaded (which is not sustainable as I have a few different projects I split my time among). I am not sure if there is a solution here, the best idea would be to have a permanent space where we could just rock up during the week and play some games (recorded) easily, but that costs a bit more than is worth at this stage :P

[@lewisnielsen4559]

​@@TabletopSydney Very fair points - I could definitely see some warbands without a lot of interesting cards being just stat blocks. And yeah, cookie cutter builds only really kick in once we have a lot of universals towards the end of season. There's also the possibility that faction cards will be more prominent in Championship with a smaller pool of universals this season. Completely understandable re Bo3s, 🤞🤞 for the Tabletop Sydney recording studio!!

[@kriton1522]

Nice game and a very enjoyable series overall :) Would love more mini tournaments :)

[@TabletopSydney]

Thanks! We hope to do more series videos as they're good fun to record and (hopefully) watch!

[@jamesmorrison3793]

I’ve heard that the Bladecoven is pretty good in Rivals... love to see you guys confirm or deny that!

[@TabletopSydney]

I don't think anyones played them yet, i'll let you know when we know!

[@raoulchavialle6107]

omfg those crits from Jacko are gorgeous x)

[@TabletopSydney]

The man has a skill, and he is going to flaunt it whenever he can!

[@AliakseiShcherbakou]

Love your videos! Keep doing it! I'm not a good at new rules and I've got a question. Is it correct to flip idoneth band at the beginning of round 2? Regarding new rules I guess you need to wait first inspiration stage to do that (it's the end of first activation in round 2). Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

[@TabletopSydney]

You are correct, we played it incorrect as we recorded this game the week of pre-orders and the full details how how the new inspiration mechanic worked were not evident yet :)

[@guidocambria7241]

Jacko is a very good player and a very Lucky boy. I hope i wrote it correctly😉

[@TabletopSydney]

You nailed it! Thank you! :D

[@Olssonocholsson]

GG! More balanced less intrusive commentary this time. Good! But enough with the frustrating rivals decks. Lets see some real games with cohesive decks 😁

[@TabletopSydney]

We will have a championship game on Thursday but the plan currently is to play both formats (with a bias towards champ). This might change as time goes on, we just want to show what we think is fun! :D

[@PabloTheAwesomee]

I believe no matter what Jacko played Lady Luck would have pulled him to a victorious end! Congrats Jacko! You’ll get him next time Kent!!!!

[@TabletopSydney]

The man just loves crits, he cannot be stopped!

[@idio64]

The name is Purifiers ;)

[@TabletopSydney]

Thank you! :D

[@thewigglefish]

Noooooooo

[@TabletopSydney]

Crabby :(