DID IT SUCK? - Doctor Who [GIRL IN THE FIREPLACE REVIEW]

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@Raxoris
@Raxoris 5 жыл бұрын
Having watched this again, there's one detail about the Clockwork Androids I really like. You make mention that there's no visual indication of when they speak, but before they speak there's always a slight clicking sound, almost like someone pressed play on an audio cassette. It's just a super nice detail.
@TheSmart-CasualGamer
@TheSmart-CasualGamer 5 жыл бұрын
It's a really creepy voice too. I like it.
@mickys8065
@mickys8065 5 жыл бұрын
Or an old speaker powering up, I like to think the androids only had so many words available to make sentences with which is why they never explain anything to the doctor "we needed the parts" "she is not ready" all fairly basic words that would be programmed into a repair android "we turned the crew into bio components to keep the ship running" would be alot more complicated
@TheSmart-CasualGamer
@TheSmart-CasualGamer 5 жыл бұрын
They sound quite a bit like an early text to speech program. If it said more words, it would come out clunky as hell, so it shortens it's own speech, even if it can't elaborate particularly far.
@elladorable
@elladorable 7 жыл бұрын
Timelord are actually touch telepaths. I think this is played on in the Original Series. They also have the Matrix where Timelord can telepathically get in contact with each other. Just so you kniw
@jakerockznoodles
@jakerockznoodles 7 жыл бұрын
Eleanor Hodgson Yup, incidentally, this is also where the Master's hypnotic mind control powers come from. Not that he ever actually uses those in the new series at all...
@doghat1619
@doghat1619 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't he kinda uses hypnosis with the weird tapping thing to get elected in series 3?
@kian_5733
@kian_5733 5 жыл бұрын
I believe he used something similar with Craig (dunno how to spell that), he head butted him and he knew most of the doctors history
@qayyuma9622
@qayyuma9622 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakerockznoodles the masters entire plot in s3 was about him hypnotising the British public with the 4 drum beat
@dominicthorp3248
@dominicthorp3248 3 жыл бұрын
@@qayyuma9622 That’s more subliminal messaging, and it was only accomplished with the Archangel Network. This method is a lot more subtle, which he needed to do to hide it from the Doctor. His mind control works a bit differently from what I can remember, it’s a lot louder -figuratively speaking- and normally makes the mind controlled act more violent as a side-affect
@tabularasa0606
@tabularasa0606 8 жыл бұрын
The Doctor already had mind reading abilities in the classic series. At least since the Brain of Morbius. Where the doctor has a mind battle with Morbius.
@blasterfox188
@blasterfox188 6 жыл бұрын
NaN i cant tell if your lying or telling the truth
@TheSmart-CasualGamer
@TheSmart-CasualGamer 6 жыл бұрын
But that was Tom Baker, he wanted the Doctor to have blue blood and a talking cabbage for a companion.
@danielgallagher8830
@danielgallagher8830 6 жыл бұрын
the 2'nd doctor was the first one to have mind powers I think, he used them to contact the timelords in 'the war games' 1966
@Thkaal
@Thkaal 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielgallagher8830 Exactly, and his abilities were enhanced by the message cube.
@VancouverVortex
@VancouverVortex 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure third doctor did some of it
@jamiedawes8691
@jamiedawes8691 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else think this episode is really similar to the Eleventh Hour. For instance: There is a little girl, a strange man, taking the role of an imaginary friend, appears at the same time as a hidden menace, plot skips 20 or so years, both strange man and evil menace return, strange man defeats evil menace
@astrowiz3544
@astrowiz3544 7 жыл бұрын
Girl in the fireplace? More like the girl who waited, hehe
@KyePerring
@KyePerring 7 жыл бұрын
Astral Cosmos Celestial the Third lol
@Eyecyou64
@Eyecyou64 7 жыл бұрын
Jamie Dawes Now that you mention it
@kayrayouvmir5766
@kayrayouvmir5766 7 жыл бұрын
Jamie Dawes well, Moffat's pretty open about taking inspiration from "The Time Traveler's Wife", so...
@kbg12ila
@kbg12ila 6 жыл бұрын
They are all just meh versions of this episode.
@TvReferences
@TvReferences 7 жыл бұрын
The bbc wouldn’t let tennant use his accent. He wanted to wear a kilt
@tayetrotman
@tayetrotman 6 жыл бұрын
Why? There’s no reason not to let him
@sideshowkazstuff3867
@sideshowkazstuff3867 6 жыл бұрын
Taye Trotman Because the doctor is apparently supposed to be very English which they forgot at the next doctor.
@Cruithneach
@Cruithneach 6 жыл бұрын
@Sideshow Kaz Sylvester McCoy clearly never got the memo
@PanAndScanBuddy
@PanAndScanBuddy 6 жыл бұрын
And a Sonic Claymore the size of a bloodhound.
@apexa903
@apexa903 4 жыл бұрын
This isn’t true
@SouthPark333Gaming
@SouthPark333Gaming 8 жыл бұрын
yes the doctor did have slight mind reading abilities in the old series, and in the books and audios.
@eddherring4972
@eddherring4972 7 жыл бұрын
SouthPark333Gaming I also think that for this episode it is more of a 2 way door which is how she can read the Doctor back
@Materminds187
@Materminds187 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention it’s used later with the Moffat era in The Lodger to be able to give Craig the information of why he’s there in the first place, though it is used more forcibly in that one.
@dipassignment6037
@dipassignment6037 4 жыл бұрын
most of what this episode taught me is that the tenth Doctor's type is the prettiest blonde in the episode
@hdschaubey2148
@hdschaubey2148 8 жыл бұрын
The sound of the galloping horse was coming because the doctor had fixed the audio link ... Mickey mentions it when Reinette steps on the ship ! Bwa-ha !
@elwynenoa
@elwynenoa 5 жыл бұрын
Throughout series 2, the doctor always seemed to imply that he loved Rose, but he didn't seem to care about her at all in this episode. This episode was indeed brilliant thought out, but the whole Madame de Pompadour and the Doctor thing didn't make sense.
@natalieybarra5207
@natalieybarra5207 4 жыл бұрын
thank you! not just series 2, you could see the Doctor falling for Rose in series 1 as well, but yes it was heavily implied... actually it was fact because the writers, David himself along with Christopher Eccelston, all said that the Doctor loved Rose but this episode he easily falls for someone that he only met that day. It cheapens the entire romance he had for Rose.
@deanwicks1278
@deanwicks1278 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I completely agree and that's why I never bought into the whole romance when I first watched the episode. I guess you could argue that with Mickey joining the Tardis, the Doctor felt pushed out and that he couldn't now feel that way about Rose so he tried to turn his attention elsewhere.
@chancethefapper4528
@chancethefapper4528 2 жыл бұрын
Arguably its foreshadowing that Moffatt writes incredible episodes but cant tie them to the bigger picture
@hegantank6495
@hegantank6495 Жыл бұрын
@@chancethefapper4528 this 100%
@WithADashOfPazazz
@WithADashOfPazazz Жыл бұрын
​@@deanwicks1278i suppose you could look at it that way but it's so inconsistent because he's back to acting like mickey is beneath him in the next episode.
@nickbarnes4798
@nickbarnes4798 Жыл бұрын
9:43 The reason you can now hear the horses footsteps from behind the window is explained in a small, easily missable piece of dialogue from Mickey. At about 28:44 into the episode, Mickey says “The Doctor fixed an audio link.”
@michaelkenner3289
@michaelkenner3289 8 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen the original series, but in most of the modern show he's portrayed as very minimally psychic. However he frequently bumps into humans who are much more psychic than he is. The old lady on the bus who won the lottery every week for example. There's a good chance that Mme, Pompadore was actually just a little bit psychic herself.
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 4 жыл бұрын
It kind of makes some sense when it comes to her life. t the time she lived in, Madame de Pompadour was considered part of a trinity of powerful women in Europe. The other two being Archduchess of Austria Maria Theresa and Russia's Empress, Elizaveta the 2nd who was succeeded by Catherine the Great. In those times, people didn't seek alliance with the King. They went to her. Considering how many royal marriages were due to alliances, the role of the Mistress has been romanticised to being the person the King truly loved and someone who had influence over them.
@rkah6187
@rkah6187 4 жыл бұрын
My headcanon is also that the Doctor isn't very good at telepathic stuff and simply just failed to protect against the connection used both ways. I think it's just as likely.
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 4 жыл бұрын
@@rkah6187 Either that or he underestimated her and just didn't bother to back it up when probing a human
@rkah6187
@rkah6187 4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherbennett5858 Maybe both:)
@Heligoland360
@Heligoland360 7 жыл бұрын
1:38 I don't know, it didn't intrigue me, as the French retreating just seems like a daily routine.
@AwsumGamer256
@AwsumGamer256 5 жыл бұрын
Adam Collins the French were actually quite aggressive
@cornguy4447
@cornguy4447 5 жыл бұрын
Yes but they put the white on their flag was only added in case of surrender
@corentin2638
@corentin2638 5 жыл бұрын
@@cornguy4447 it actually represents the royalty
@JONSNOW-jw3zx
@JONSNOW-jw3zx 5 жыл бұрын
@@corentin2638 I think that was a joke
@WonderSilverstrand
@WonderSilverstrand 5 жыл бұрын
The French were always a military powerhouse throughout history, we only make fun of them surrendering because they surrendered in WWII. They fought every other war
@syphonfillter
@syphonfillter 5 жыл бұрын
Also remember that even after making the silly decision to use the fireplace, he still had a way out until he read the letter. But the doctor is smart enough to know that the events only become fixed once he reads the letter. At that point, it's schrodingers letter. It could contain Pompadour's recollections of their travels together. He *still* had the option to go back. But he opened the letter and fixed the events, thereby meaning he can't alter them. But until he read the letter, he was free to simply set the Tadris and zip back again. Nothing the King had said at that point is incongruous with the possibility of further adventures. Its only the contents of the letter that confirm there weren't any. So why did he open the letter rather than at least trying to zip back in the Tardis first? So I guess my question is just *Why?!* One mistake, I can grant. But two like that, right after he's just had his "Oh shit" about the first one? A good ending, but kinda holey due to the rules about their timey whimey space stuff Dr Who has set up, both before this episode and after.
@chancethefapper4528
@chancethefapper4528 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting if he was simply so excited and thoughtless that he accidentally locked himself out of seeing her again (by reading the letter). You can then have it reflect in how he treats Rose (realising he neglected her in this episode and may not always get that chance). It would feel like an early example of the "Time Lord Victorious" arrogance 10 develops and link to the bigger theme of Season 2 being the Doctor's "mistakes" catching up to him. This season's final villains being the Cybermen (who he introduced the idea of parallel worlds to), the Daleks (who escaped him ending the time war) and Torchwood (literally a group founded on correcting the Doctor's mistakes) But that would stretch the runtime so I can see why they wouldnt have included it.
@alexturlais8558
@alexturlais8558 7 жыл бұрын
I always saw the spinning fireplace as the DOCTOR being the ghost in the story. He seemed to transcend time and appear to 'haunt' the room
@heresyosmoothie695
@heresyosmoothie695 8 жыл бұрын
I think Tennant imagined the Doctor with an english accent, so that's what he did. I saw that in an interview somewhere I think xD. Anyway, now that you've finished reviewing Eccleston's tenure, maybe you could do a "did HE suck" type video, where you review the 9th Doctor himself?
@HarrysMovingMedia
@HarrysMovingMedia 8 жыл бұрын
I could do but... Naaahhh
@heresyosmoothie695
@heresyosmoothie695 8 жыл бұрын
lol aight
@the-annoyinator
@the-annoyinator 3 жыл бұрын
@@HarrysMovingMedia You should get your facts right in a lot of your videos lol
@chancethefapper4528
@chancethefapper4528 2 жыл бұрын
@@the-annoyinator Naaahhh
@thatDamnAusWhoFan
@thatDamnAusWhoFan 8 жыл бұрын
Also Reinette reading the doctor's thoughts is easily explained. WHen the doctor read her mind how he did it was to sort of merge his brain waves with hers. THe intermingling of their conciousness allows her to read his thoughts as he reads hers. A door, once opened can be walked through both ways. Its a bit like a vulcan mind meld in star trek
@ConnorNotyerbidness
@ConnorNotyerbidness 7 жыл бұрын
Shane Thompson i get the feeling that whenever he did it before or after that never happened. I think its to imply that madame de pompedour is far far more special than anyone ever expected. Somebody who so impressed the doctor he was going to pluck her out of her timeline to bring him on his travels, despite what affect it may have
@thatDamnAusWhoFan
@thatDamnAusWhoFan 7 жыл бұрын
Connor notyerbidness wouldn't be the first time he did that. the eighth doctor travelled with the author of Frankenstein for a bit and saved one companion who was supposed to die in an airship disaster without knowing that her continued existence nearly destroyed the entire universe.
@robd9413
@robd9413 7 жыл бұрын
Plus you have that whole hole in space/time in your bedroom thing that was recycled for Amy suggesting that exposure to anomalies while you were growing up does weird things to you and your abilities.
@rkah6187
@rkah6187 4 жыл бұрын
@@thatDamnAusWhoFan What? Are you joking? Season 12 also has Mary Shelley in it but there is no reference to her and the Doctor meeting before. I need to look this up, I'm upset now.
@liamdickson90
@liamdickson90 5 жыл бұрын
Bro, the explanation for madame de pompadour being able to read the doctors mind back is literally spoken by the character in that scene. You remind me of my friend, he misses plot details in shows because he is too busy loudly complaining to everyone that he doesn't understand the plot details.
@Castrated__
@Castrated__ 4 жыл бұрын
Innit
@greglinks
@greglinks 4 жыл бұрын
Dont be mean to poor old harry
@lexwithbub
@lexwithbub 3 жыл бұрын
"A door, once opened, may be passed through in both directions" or thereabouts
@dominicthorp3248
@dominicthorp3248 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not really an explanation though, an explanation would be if she had latent telepathic abilities, or if the effects of the constant holes in time while she was maturing had altered her slightly
@DoctorWho2002
@DoctorWho2002 7 жыл бұрын
The Doctor seems to make out that he always loved Rose and wanted to be with her in other episodes, yet in this episode she's easily forgotten. That puts the Doctor in a bad light, making him seem fickle and untrustworthy. The rest of the episode is great, but that whole plot point ruined it for me.
@w-james9277
@w-james9277 6 жыл бұрын
He left her stranded with a 100% chance of starving to death.
@cyrodilicbrandy
@cyrodilicbrandy 5 жыл бұрын
I felt as though RTD wanted to 100% commit to the Doctor being in love with Rose but other episode writers (and maybe the BBC?) were kinda like, “yeah nah whatevs” and just wrote however they fancied with sort of weaving in RTD’s dynamic.
@corbans5796
@corbans5796 5 жыл бұрын
I think the doctor would have waited 3000 years and then found them and it would have only been 5 minutes for them by the time he pulled up in some broken down ship to save them.
@corbans5796
@corbans5796 5 жыл бұрын
Or asked another version of himself for a lift to his timeline
@rkah6187
@rkah6187 4 жыл бұрын
@DoctorWho2002 At this point in the series, Rose is firmly with Mickey, so the Doctor, not wishing to come in between, is moving on. And anyway, I feel Moffat later on pretty much established the Doctor's character as polyamorous (or bigamist, depending on your point of view) considering the whole River Song storyline, being married to multiple people at once, etc. and I don't actually mind it. Seeing how big his hearts are and how old he is, I really don't mind him falling fast and hard for people, even for multiple people at once. I also don't mind another regeneration of the Doctor being asexual. It doesn't bother me. (Provided we get an interesting story with good characters.)
@thegreenmage6956
@thegreenmage6956 6 жыл бұрын
My favourite Doctor, Paul McGann’s 8th, was the most psychologically complex, tortured and troubled Doctor, but he was also the most mystical; he sometimes almost has access to a kind of telepathy, but of course it doesn’t really work ^^ sometimes he just knows things. But he was also often a victim of amnesia, there must have been a trade-off, he was beautiful but perhaps fragile. I suppose that’s why he had to become the War Doctor.
@nickbarnes4798
@nickbarnes4798 Жыл бұрын
11:02 The reason The Doctor can’t used the TARDIS is explained at 30:36 in the episode through the line “We can’t use the TARDIS, we’re part of events now”.
@thatDamnAusWhoFan
@thatDamnAusWhoFan 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah hit psychic abilities were established early on. THey manefested in a variety of ways. A common passtime on Galifrey is mind wrestling where you must overwhelm your opponent with your mental strength and he has wread peoples minds a few times.
@jonfroswa
@jonfroswa 5 жыл бұрын
In case anyone else was curious, the text in the bottom right corner that appears for A FRAME during the "thick thick thickety (...) my Dad" bit says "Caught you out there, didn't I?" Took way too many tries to pause it at the right moment.
@kurumais
@kurumais 8 жыл бұрын
i love this episode i think its terrific
@beautifultragedy1644
@beautifultragedy1644 6 жыл бұрын
kurumais I think the whole episode was beautiful
@mrflibble1259
@mrflibble1259 6 жыл бұрын
It's just such a fantastic and original concept, so rich with great characters, monsters, music and locations. And it manages to blend genres seemlessly while always feeling like doctor who. I just love this episode, 10/10
@invertedgames7993
@invertedgames7993 6 жыл бұрын
2:56 I dont see how these doors are impossible. aren't they just 2 doors going to the same room?
@Vearru
@Vearru 5 жыл бұрын
This was one of my favourite episodes ever maybe it’s nostalgia but I loved it when I first watched it and nothing has changed since
@catbhoy
@catbhoy 3 жыл бұрын
Well said .. 8/10 outrageous 10/10 all day long 😀
@zelandakhniteblade5436
@zelandakhniteblade5436 4 жыл бұрын
You did not mention the seasonal palette design, which is one of the visual details that raises this episode above others from this era. There are so many little details like this across the entire design that have just been lost from DW completely. Hopefully the next boss after CC can get back to the old production values and levels of writing and restore the show to at least being watchable again.
@spartancamic0n366
@spartancamic0n366 8 жыл бұрын
In the episode the three doctors, second and third were able to make contact with eachother and read one anothers thoughts. It allowed the second doctor to get a good understanding of what was going on.
@galax3949
@galax3949 8 жыл бұрын
Oh man what a great analysis of the first few minutes of this episode, you hooked me from the beginning and shed light on things I've never noticed about this episode, and it's a favourite of mine. Great review, gonna check out your channel. You were nitpicking a little bit on some plot conveniences but it's your opinion and nevertheless you still said it was a great episode so it's all good for me :p
@mecchabaron64
@mecchabaron64 5 жыл бұрын
7:09 loving the random dubstep break 😂😂😂
@vampiresquid2635
@vampiresquid2635 3 жыл бұрын
I cherish this episode, bc it just brings back soo much nostalgia, even if it isn't fantastic in every way I shall always enjoy rewatching it
@lebowski7717
@lebowski7717 7 жыл бұрын
2:58 Real fake doors
@1Bruce93Wayne9
@1Bruce93Wayne9 5 жыл бұрын
There's a girl in the fireplace. In the fireplace there's a girl.
@ZuggiDnB
@ZuggiDnB 5 жыл бұрын
I'm late to this video, but having just watched this episode again I can fully understand why its considered one of the better Tennant episodes. Its the ending the makes it so good in particular, its not often anymore in Who that we get a sad ending which 'could've been avoided'. Considering the motifs of the episode lie so heavily in loneliness, the frailty of time and finding place in the universe, the ending truly solidifies these themes in a poignant way.
@kitty_kath
@kitty_kath 5 жыл бұрын
What episode did Mickey Smith run into the gate when running to the TARDIS?
@jesusstaccato8448
@jesusstaccato8448 6 жыл бұрын
Referencing the use of impossible space in The Shining's hotel set? That's a deep cut, I like it.
@TommyLednorMusic
@TommyLednorMusic 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of times I’ve watched this review for fun, always mouthing along with the “thicktown” part and you STILL GET ME
@joshmakin7604
@joshmakin7604 8 жыл бұрын
Hey man i just found your channel, cant believe you dont have more subs for the quality of content. Keep up the good work :)
@Eyecyou64
@Eyecyou64 7 жыл бұрын
This was a Moffat episode?
@gbsheard
@gbsheard 8 жыл бұрын
I missed this one aswell, turning my notifications on for this channel now, im sick of missing out, great videro, I was always terrified of these nuggets when I was younger
@HarrysMovingMedia
@HarrysMovingMedia 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks man haha, so some of my videos didn't come up in your sub box?
@gbsheard
@gbsheard 8 жыл бұрын
No they aren't unfortunately, which is a shame cause I genuinely enjoy your content
@HarrysMovingMedia
@HarrysMovingMedia 8 жыл бұрын
How weird, probably the copyright shit or something. -.-
@gbsheard
@gbsheard 8 жыл бұрын
***** No, its jsut youtube being a dick, it happens to the best of us
@Amy-and-Ozzy
@Amy-and-Ozzy 4 жыл бұрын
Only discovered your channel today but love it! Every channel should include bloopers
@obiwankenobi687
@obiwankenobi687 6 жыл бұрын
“A door once opened can be stepped through from whatever direction”- there’s your explanation
@rapid9940
@rapid9940 7 жыл бұрын
Despite being my favorite episode there is always one issue I've had, why doesn't the Doctor just use the TARDIS to pick her up? We're the scriptwriters just lounging around and said "Shit, we've done nothing. Quick write a script for the next episode! No, don't check it over! Just hand it in and hope it works."
@connorbassett6624
@connorbassett6624 6 жыл бұрын
I love how that horse is essentially Chekhov's Gun... This is why I miss the Russell T. Davies era :'(
@samuelbarber4154
@samuelbarber4154 5 жыл бұрын
5:46 huh? So them being completely machinery gives a 'justifiable' reason why they used the crew? Also there is hope of reprogramming them.
@MaxmadV8
@MaxmadV8 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review! I like the music choice! The first song reminds me of to TV show Spaced. I think that's where I know it from lol
@mrworldwide5811
@mrworldwide5811 6 жыл бұрын
‘Nice one ice gun’ ‘Fire extinguisher’
@samuelbarber4154
@samuelbarber4154 4 жыл бұрын
5:19 did you seriously just call the Daleks and the Cybermen robots? SERIOUSLY!? Anyone who's seen this show will know that the Daleks are creatures within the metal shell, and the Cybermen are merely assimilated humans! Neither of them are robots.
@jackbushell9564
@jackbushell9564 6 жыл бұрын
Whats the song that starts around 1:05? Pretty sure its used in Spaced too
@marcywu5005
@marcywu5005 Ай бұрын
"A door opened can be walked through in either direction" was a pretty good explanation for how Marie Antoinette was also able to go into The Doctor's mind.
@AliceQuinnRose
@AliceQuinnRose 6 жыл бұрын
I’m sure many other people have said this but: Darlks are not robots. They’re aliens who each have their own personalised tank.
@benadians1769
@benadians1769 6 жыл бұрын
neither are cyberman there a brain in a tank
@Manobaru
@Manobaru 7 жыл бұрын
6:12 - I'd personally like to believe that this is Vulcan mind meld that Doctor learned from his encounters with Spock in the comic book Dr Who/Star Trek cross-overs :V
@drakengarfinkel3133
@drakengarfinkel3133 5 жыл бұрын
Hello from 2019. Did did the Doctor say the robot was THICCC?
@kitty_kath
@kitty_kath 5 жыл бұрын
Not thicc, but thick in the sense of stupid. It's a British thing.
@TripleJumpYTP
@TripleJumpYTP 5 жыл бұрын
Hello from October 2019
@1Gidget
@1Gidget 4 жыл бұрын
TripleJumpYTP hello from September 2020
@drakengarfinkel3133
@drakengarfinkel3133 4 жыл бұрын
@@1Gidget Oh God. I want to go back. I want to go back.
@ello-olle
@ello-olle 5 жыл бұрын
7:21 what’s with the ‘are you fucking kidding me’ and the ‘Caught you out there didn’t I’ at 7:44
@derphen9759
@derphen9759 7 жыл бұрын
I've always assumed that 10th's doctor was some what psychic and that's why he could pick up stuff like the oods singing (A psychic race) or read minds. That's how I've explained it, but yeah they should have explained instead of dropping it out of no where. However, my theory does have holes in it, like how he should have picked up on the Beast in the pit when it mind controlled the ood like he did with the oods hive mind.
@brywash3r3
@brywash3r3 5 жыл бұрын
I used to hate this episode because it made me cry when I was younger... love it now because it’s so wonderful
@keelzbateman4007
@keelzbateman4007 8 жыл бұрын
I think that time lords can mind read on them selfs, and other timelords, they say contact and then the camera cuts really fast between the two time lords read each other's minds, I don't think they can read humans minds, until that one
@Henry-oj1oo
@Henry-oj1oo 8 жыл бұрын
6:25 yes in the last story survival and in battlefield but is several timelord stories it is said that the time lords are psychic like in the war games ware the timelord they burn someone's mind using psychic abilities
@DsRelaxingSounds
@DsRelaxingSounds 6 жыл бұрын
Rant ahead, sorry: I absolutely hated this episode. Totally didn't make sense within the context of the story arc. We've seen the relationship and chemistry between the Doctor and Rose blossom over the last few episodes. It's clear that he loves Rose, a girl he has a history and special bond with. In the previous episode, he even said _he wouldn't just leave her like that_ . Yet in this episode he suddenly leaves her for a woman he only met a handful of times, (on one day!) without even thinking twice. Once you know Steven Moffat wrote this episode as a 'response' to The Time Traveler's Wife, a book he was apparently obsessed with, you can see this episode for what it is. His attempt to make his own little version of a story he admires, while completely ignoring the character development of the show it was for. He tried to make the Reinette/Doctor relationship just as deep and romantic as the one in his favourite book, but it's impossible to achieve that within one episode, and it feels completely forced to me. Reinette telling the Doctor 'I've known you all my life' rings false. She literally met him twice before as a child, and only for a few minutes. The Doctor being that broken up about her death wasn't believable either. Moffat tried to create the idea that they knew each other really well by including the mindreading part, but it totally feels like cheating. They still barely had any actual experiences and history together. They were still only vague acquaintances at best, and sure, they were super attracted to each other, but that's still not good enough of a reason to choose her over Rose. This whole episode just seems like one of Moffat's typical fantasies/ideas about what romance is: insert an 'intelligent', (I'm not talking about the actual Madame de Pompadour, who was apparently super intelligent, just Moffat's writing) sexy woman with sassy one-liners, write some flirty conversation, and bam, you have yourself a romance. Meanwhile it's a completely surface level, one-dimensional relationship. I wouldn't have minded this episode _as_ much if it appeared somewhere later in the show, with Martha or Donna, but even then, I wouldn't find it believable. PS: Also, Madame de Pompadour was a total bitch to Rose for no reason, she only tried to help. If Moffat meant to make her character likable, it sure didn't work for me.
@meteorrejector
@meteorrejector 5 жыл бұрын
D agreed
@Alexander-nb1fg
@Alexander-nb1fg 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Exactly my thoughts. Can i buy you a cookie?:)
@Trinidad413
@Trinidad413 9 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@chrisg24601
@chrisg24601 3 жыл бұрын
for anyone asking why he couldn't use the TARDIS at the end. While they were on the ship and they were trying to get to the ballroom coz the droids blocked the teleport. Rose said "we'll go in the TARDIS" and He said "we can't go in the TARDIS. We're part of events now"
@natefrancis2075
@natefrancis2075 7 жыл бұрын
What's the episode that the woman from 1.02 is off?
@ShadowHolder748
@ShadowHolder748 4 жыл бұрын
7:22 OMG why was that text so short
@davack62
@davack62 5 жыл бұрын
I was always under the impression that the reason Rinnette can read his memories was because of the robots scanning her brain. Edit I assumed it had something to do with it.
@QuasistellarNymphomaniac
@QuasistellarNymphomaniac 4 жыл бұрын
Would'nt it count as "crossing his timeline" if he changed the outcome of an event he has participated in? Also, I only noticed the Spaceship being named after Madamme de Pompadour on the 5th rewatch or something
@Faerie_Kim
@Faerie_Kim 5 жыл бұрын
Jon Pertwee did hypnotic stuff sometimes.
@hannahburkey4880
@hannahburkey4880 3 жыл бұрын
To be completely fair when it comes to the mind-reading and why she's able to go back into his memories while he is going through hers. The line she says after he lets go of her face is a door can be entered both ways. She was not able to open that or do that without him first opening that door. I mean have you ever found a door that you're able to walk through. That you can't walk back out of? And the fact that he says that he's opening a door to put doors on the memories she doesn't want him going in that would indicate he's just opening a way for both of them to look inside their brains without knowing it.
@hannahburkey4880
@hannahburkey4880 3 жыл бұрын
On another note have you ever been a in a relationship where once you're with them everything else kind of slips your mind and you're just completely enraptured with the person you're in love with? The episode also mentions how extremely lonely he was as a child and every time he's had a romantic plot it's been Stripped Away From Him in some way or form. Oh he lets down his guard isn't thinking logically and then it all falls to pieces.
@hannahburkey4880
@hannahburkey4880 3 жыл бұрын
There's another piece of dialogue you missed as well when they were talking about her not being complete and waiting until she was 37 years old to take her and her brain for the ship. The reason why is the ship is 37 years old. They needed to be able to control the factor of how old person's brain was that they put into the ship so that the repair would last as long as the ship lasts theoretically. Two they needed someone who could both be impulsive and be able to be so orderly and in control Like a Lady of court. And then being robots they more than likely would have relied on the stories passed around on the ship hypothetically maybe someone talked about her in that time giving them the idea to go find her and use her brain for the ship.
@hannahburkey4880
@hannahburkey4880 3 жыл бұрын
And another note when he breaks the time window he mentions not being able to use the Tardis for a reason. I can't remember the exact reason but perhaps the reason he wasn't able to use it and had to break the time window is the same reason he couldn't use the tardis to go get her. I'm not sure if that would apply because I can't remember the exact piece of dialogue. Anyway I do love your videos keep making more content! ❤The only question that's still bugs me about this episode however is why the Clockwork robots thought that lady pomade was the same the Clockwork robots. Although perhaps they're just referring to her as being close to the edge of the ship thus close to the Clockwork robots age. But it's still a piece of dialogue that's very haunting.😰
@helgaratbone1691
@helgaratbone1691 6 жыл бұрын
This episode has everything. Humor, horror, mystery, drama, tragedy, sci-fi, period piece, sadness, twisty bow tie ending. All compact. Great writing. My fav new Who episode.
@claire6931
@claire6931 8 жыл бұрын
In the Fourth Doctor classic serial 'The Image of the Fendahl', if memory serves, I believe it is established that in the presence of a time fissure humans could develop telepathic and precognitive abilities. This would probably be the most likely explained Madame De Pompadours two way link with the Doctor. Also telepathic contact was an established ability of the Time Lords in the classic series, to varying degrees.
@Joey-mm5nu
@Joey-mm5nu 8 жыл бұрын
Claire Season 1 was when telepathic contact of timelords was revealed back in the 7th story with Susan communicating with the Senoritres
@Roboshi2007
@Roboshi2007 6 жыл бұрын
I think the Doctor didn't go in the tardis to visit her because they do establish that having lots of time travel in one place can be dangerous. landing the tardis in a precise point is not that reliable either so there was a change he could bump into himself again, and bring in those bat things from fathers day again.
@michaelloughnane
@michaelloughnane 7 жыл бұрын
Mental connections or whatever were a thing in the classic series, but I believe it was only ever shown between Time Lords, and not Time Lord to human (See the Three Doctors)
@yvonnethompson844
@yvonnethompson844 5 жыл бұрын
his grand daughter even gets in on the mind reading thing, but she's given dialogue that shows she doesn't like using it, so yes, all the way back to the first doctor, the time lords have mind reading
@silverstarlight9395
@silverstarlight9395 5 жыл бұрын
Why did the horse not get hurt by the mirror shards?
@Metal_Enjoyer
@Metal_Enjoyer 5 жыл бұрын
1:16 that sounds very french
@HarryThomasPictures
@HarryThomasPictures 8 жыл бұрын
Great review, I like this story too, back when Moffat wrote good scripts. Love to here your thoughts on School Reunion where spoiler alert Sarah Jane returns.
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 8 жыл бұрын
You got that right, Moffat was the only one to make sympathetic Rose in Series 2.
@ziggy9008
@ziggy9008 7 жыл бұрын
can you imagine parties with the doctor
@TheSmart-CasualGamer
@TheSmart-CasualGamer 6 жыл бұрын
A couple of centuries early!
@alexbasha0508
@alexbasha0508 6 жыл бұрын
armadillo storm Yeah, I can. If it’s the 11th, then it’ll be fun but he’s terrible at dancing XD (At Amy’s wedding)
@TheTravelerww
@TheTravelerww 5 жыл бұрын
He should have used the tardis not the fireplace in the end also why did he think he was stuck all he had to do is remember to go back in time a rescue himself creating a very small time loop where he saves Jeanne gets rescued by himself then past self goes off in his own tardis on the ship with rose and Micky to rescue himself while future Doctor, Rose and Micky takes Jeanne her to see the stars. Possibly she becomes a new companion for a bit as it would have been interesting to see how a famous historical figure reacted to the Doctor's strange world and other planets. All the time, knowing that for time to continue as normal it could only be a temporary thing.
@Lordship1021
@Lordship1021 4 жыл бұрын
This was the first doctor who episode I ever watched. A few months later I saw the episode where the 12th doctor gave river song a sonic, and I was hooked by those 2 episodes
@WILLJEUM
@WILLJEUM 8 жыл бұрын
whats the music at 10:15?
@HarrysMovingMedia
@HarrysMovingMedia 8 жыл бұрын
Aardvark Grandpa the purple pickle The song is titled 'Gonk'
@HarrysMovingMedia
@HarrysMovingMedia 8 жыл бұрын
Aardvark Grandpa the purple pickle The song is titled 'Gonk'
@WILLJEUM
@WILLJEUM 8 жыл бұрын
***** thank you anticipate your next reveiws
@BrotherReese
@BrotherReese 7 жыл бұрын
Have / will you cover the Dr. Who episode "Blink" yet?
@bobsrussi598
@bobsrussi598 6 жыл бұрын
My interpretation of why he didn't go back to get her was more of a psychological one. Pompadour is a pretty famous historical figure, whisking her away might have had consequences and that somber moment probably made him come to his senses. Plus it was a reminder of the mortality of humans and we know how much he hates saying goodbye - he probably didn't want to deal with that again, knowing that her lifespan was even more limited than the humans he has as companions in modern day. He liked her way too much and knew in that moment having her with him would end in disaster.
@mattygaw4p554
@mattygaw4p554 5 жыл бұрын
Also maybe she can read the doctors mind because it works two ways the doctor looks into her mind but he opened is mind
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 4 жыл бұрын
Did you call daleks and cybermen robots those are tsk units and cyvorfs respectively
@patermcson4750
@patermcson4750 6 жыл бұрын
What's is that party music called ?
@greigbutler4498
@greigbutler4498 3 жыл бұрын
It’s litterally said in the scene you showed why she can read the doctors mind too, did you watch the episode?
@ballyea1
@ballyea1 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, review, loved the poll as well, I voted "Reunion", but love this one as well.
@arcadeassassin7176
@arcadeassassin7176 6 жыл бұрын
the tardis is actually less reliable than the fireplace as shown and explicitly stated at multiple points throughout the series. when using it the doctor has very little control over where or when he ends up.
@FinlayFosterReviews
@FinlayFosterReviews 8 жыл бұрын
Love these videos so much man, excellently written and super enjoyable to boot, keep it up! Also will you ever be doing a review of Howls Moving Castle? :)
@HarrysMovingMedia
@HarrysMovingMedia 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And one day I definitely will, I would be doing the world an injustice if I didn't.
@FinlayFosterReviews
@FinlayFosterReviews 8 жыл бұрын
+Harry's Moving Castle haha looking forward to it! :)
@RetroRobotRadio
@RetroRobotRadio 4 жыл бұрын
In the past the doctors even help ethically contacted himself in multi doctor stories.
@goose_42
@goose_42 4 жыл бұрын
the part where the doctor says "if that clocks broken, and its the only clock in the room, then whats that?" is pure genius and genuinely terrified me the first time i watched when i was like 5
@Lordship1021
@Lordship1021 4 жыл бұрын
This was the second episode i had ever watch, so it holds nostalgia points for me
@Thunderbolt-Racing
@Thunderbolt-Racing 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get what's so impossible about the doors in the Shining. Could just be two doors into a single room.
@pjmathison9787
@pjmathison9787 6 жыл бұрын
David tennant worked earlier with Russell t Davies on a show called Casanova and he done the same accent in fact he’s basically the same character
@Shtoops
@Shtoops 4 жыл бұрын
I hated this episode so much. It felt like character assassination the way that the Doctor just kinda forgets about Rose (and Mickey). I don't know how this episode is so popular smh.
@telocity
@telocity 3 жыл бұрын
You missed the reveal at the end of the ship's name. I liked that bit.
@mrflibble1259
@mrflibble1259 6 жыл бұрын
Your outros are fantastic 😂
@WinstonGuitar
@WinstonGuitar 7 жыл бұрын
one of the top 5 Doctor Who episodes of all time. When I accidentally chance upon Dr. Who in season 10, and see this total mess of a show that lacks even one redeemable quality, I remember Girl In The Fireplace, and recall that it hasn't always been so.
@mjudec
@mjudec 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't he use the TARDIS? Well....probably some mumbo jumbo about timelines and part of events as per "Rose" but really it's because the emotion of the ending worked. One could imagine that he used the fireplace as was convenient and quick, but then when he arrived after she died he'd created the event where he missed her, so returning in the TARDIS would create a paradox.
@thedude4k
@thedude4k Жыл бұрын
I feel like this episode would have hit way harder in season 3 or even 4 because shes kind of another rose it would make so much sense for him to almost fall in love with another girl after rose only to have her snatched away again.
@TheAstip
@TheAstip 4 жыл бұрын
I never really liked it due to the romantic undertones - probably because I was half obsessed with Tennant and/or 10 and Rose being together.
@j.m.marshall669
@j.m.marshall669 5 жыл бұрын
He couldn't have used the TARDIS to go back to when he left her choosing a star as when he went back to the 18th Century through the fireplace he became part of events, stuck in the timeline, it's like what he told Rose on the Game Station when she suggested going back to last week and warning them. Sad fact is he was too late, if he went back for her it would have negated the whole reason why he traveled by the TARDIS. Think it's known as a causality loop. Chronomechnanics can be....complicated, so we'll settle with wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff
@SuperNinjaBuni
@SuperNinjaBuni 6 жыл бұрын
Why didn't the Doctor fly through the mirror with the Tardis instead of the horse?
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