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HARS connie and convair takeoff for Avalon

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@mrhearse777
@mrhearse777 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone who helps to keep these aircraft flying is a HERO. Respect.
@otto16121970
@otto16121970 4 жыл бұрын
mrhearse777 And also everyone who DARES to fly this plane is a hero
@jamescourt4703
@jamescourt4703 4 жыл бұрын
Well spoken
@andgate2000
@andgate2000 4 жыл бұрын
That would be my dad! His project is the vampire.
@evanbarr9270
@evanbarr9270 3 жыл бұрын
abselutly these classic planes need to be preserved ,you just cant appreciate these machines until you actually see one up close or fly on one.
@DebOxy
@DebOxy Жыл бұрын
The Connie Crew are MY Heros. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJmndYdner-XncU
@bernardboka4277
@bernardboka4277 4 жыл бұрын
Constellation is just so beautiful. It, the 707, and the the Concorde transcend the functional and utilitarian and are art. Beautiful when standing still, the act of flight transforms them into something magical
@erikasells7504
@erikasells7504 4 жыл бұрын
Bernard Boka nicely worded
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 3 жыл бұрын
Bernard Boka I grew up only a few miles from the factory where the Constellations were produced. My father would take me to the airport and I would look through the fence into the lot where they kept the almost finished airframes. I was about ten years old. It was my favorite airplane then and aside from the SR 71 it still is at the top of my list.
@bernardboka4277
@bernardboka4277 3 жыл бұрын
@@timmayer8723 what a wonderful memory. From a far more civilized time than today.
@hybrid7681
@hybrid7681 7 жыл бұрын
Magnificent HARS " Connie " is the most gracious Old Girl in the air...nice to see the Convair in action also.
@waynebudman9558
@waynebudman9558 4 жыл бұрын
Two beautiful aircraft, great to see them still flying. Magnificent team at HARS performs magic.
@howardrickert2558
@howardrickert2558 4 жыл бұрын
I miss flying the Convair. She was a great bird in my mind. Was flying N4813C from KBWI to KCLT the night Palm 90 went into the Potomac river. She got us down and back,albeit a little cold. I really enjoy the videos of old radials, wish you could add the smell. Thanks for posting.
@cv3402000
@cv3402000 6 жыл бұрын
Beautifull C 131B , Flew one for 14 years in Lower California . Mexico Nothing compares to Flying a Radial Aircraft. Absolutely Fantastic Aircrafts. Made Proudly in the United States.
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
I worked two years converting convair 440 and 880 models tô turbo prop power. I jig built the engine nacelles which were made from stainless steel. I could turn out two nacelles in one day if I really moved along. I worked for Hollywood aviation in Los Angeles as a sheet metal mechanic.
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 4 жыл бұрын
What engines would go in those Nacelles?
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Crupel they were turbine engines, not sure what make. We also did the same conversions to some privately owned D.C.-3s which turned them into tricycle landing gear aircraft instead of tail draggers.
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 4 жыл бұрын
@@timmayer8723 i know they were turbine engines. Not to sound like a smartass, but i read your comment, and know what a "turbo prop" is. Im a big aviation nerd and an in-training A&P. Im asking you what model engine. A PW 100 or 150? A T58? Some Rolls Royce model? (Unlikely)
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Crupel T-56 and the Rolls Royce dart.
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Crupel I was a licensed A&P mechanic for thirty years. I graduated from The Northrop Institute of Technology the same year Kennedy was killed. My first job was working for Ted Smith Aircraft. I worked as an airframe sheet metal and structural mechanic for about a year and a half. We produced the first Aerostar twin engine executive aircraft which at the time was the fastest executive aircraft built. Ted Smith was the designer of the B-25 Mitchell bomber among other well known aircraft. That was cutting edge A&P work.
@charlesflinnill978
@charlesflinnill978 4 жыл бұрын
My story, I was 6 years old in 1958 when my family left Wheelus AFB, North Africa on a MAC US AIR FORCE Connie bound for for Kessler AFB, Mississippi with a stop in Bermuda. I have always remembered this plane because of its distinct tail and graceful appearance.
@jamesgovett2501
@jamesgovett2501 4 жыл бұрын
I lived in Pascoe Vale to the mid 1960’s when l was a kid, my brother & l would ride our bikes out to Essendon airport on the weekends and watch the planes land on the east-west runway their thru the cyclone wire fence about where the freeway is now and remember watching the Ansett and TAA convairs land & take-off also the constellations, we used to ride right up to near the main terminal and literally watch the DC-6s start up with their grouse sounding engines like a lumpy cam whilst idling from what seemed just a few feet away! Back home we were not far from the flight path and from our backyard remember watching the constellations on final approach and used to see what seemed quite regularly an engine shut down and coming in on three engines! All this and must not forget the Bristol freighters and Brain & Browns cargo DC-4’s
@philthemagician1949
@philthemagician1949 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Folks , it's been many years since I came to your air show's at Albion Park , but i still have fond memories of them as well & Picture's of the Awesome Aircraft , I even remember as a Member of 4th/19 Prince of Wales's Light Horse ( R.A.A.C. ) my first flight in a Carabou from East Sale R.A.A.F to Puckapunyal Military Base ( Vic ) , your aircraft are bringing back those memories and the fantasic time I had with the Royal Australian Amoured Corps and the awesome work you people do to restore the Aviation part of everyone's lives !!
@robertanderson2285
@robertanderson2285 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful plane! I was a radar tech on EC-121s, '66-'70.
@maxsdad538
@maxsdad538 Жыл бұрын
I was a weapons tech on the Connie in the 963rd.
@Altenholz
@Altenholz 5 жыл бұрын
The older i get, the more i love those kind of planes :-)
@joeltisseyre9826
@joeltisseyre9826 5 жыл бұрын
So do I..... But Connie has been my secret love for a long time !
@bernardboka4277
@bernardboka4277 4 жыл бұрын
Everything today is so ruthlessly efficient and homogeneous. Those swoops and curves on the Connie would never survive today’s design committees. Pride in making something beautiful rather than just functional is missing these days
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
Altenholz there is no sound like that of big radial aircraft engines slugging it out with the elements. Massive all consuming sound of thunder. I love it.
@Mark_Ocain
@Mark_Ocain 4 жыл бұрын
The Convair purrs like a kitten. Love the big fuel-rich and oily starts of radials that haven't been started in a while...awesome!
@kyotokid4
@kyotokid4 4 жыл бұрын
...indeed a lovely sound. Used to remember them flying out of MKE for North Central before they were all converted to 580s.
@FutureSystem738
@FutureSystem738 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure there would be corrosion inhibitors in those cylinders making the start so smokey.
@DebOxy
@DebOxy Жыл бұрын
@@FutureSystem738 no inhibitors, its just the oil.
@armenio1947
@armenio1947 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, super work and two wonderful planes, thank you very much for sharing. The Super Constellation is the most beautiful and elegant plane that the human made to date.
@allanwilkerson6426
@allanwilkerson6426 5 жыл бұрын
That smoke on start up isn't pollution....that's horsepower !!! Nothing sounds better than a radial piston engine. Pure symphony.
@alejandrosienra2179
@alejandrosienra2179 5 жыл бұрын
a excellent of passangers Aircraft's of 🛩️ period whit Radial Engine.
@gerilynntarvin9402
@gerilynntarvin9402 3 жыл бұрын
this is what airplanes are supposed to sound like. fortunate to have seen hundreds of these taking off at McLellan AFB in Sacramento, along with the real globemaster, I love that era of flying.
@maxsdad538
@maxsdad538 Жыл бұрын
I flew the Connie out of McClellan for many years, until we closed the 552nd down in 1976.
@deciosantosribeiro6222
@deciosantosribeiro6222 4 жыл бұрын
Trabalhei muito com eles, o 240 e o 340. Esses aviões eram o máximo, boa recordação.
@Ruckweiler73
@Ruckweiler73 4 жыл бұрын
Flew from California to Honolulu in '59 aboard one of these. Loooong flight.
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Baker made the same flight back in the sixties many times in an Air Force C-97 four engine cargo plane. Going there took about 11 hours, coming back with a tail wind took about 10.5 hours. We left our base in California at sundown flying at an altitude of 8000 feet and landed at Hickam air base on the big island just as the sun was coming up, really beautiful sight. Night flying over the Pacific teaches you the meaning of the term 'pitch black dark'. Without the altimeter and auto pilot it would be easy to hit the water. The massive circular exhaust pipes glowed cherry red in the night. Half way across the Pacific is 'check point charley' which is a bouy ship anchored in place and lit up with tiny lights which are just visible in the night sky. The only light inside is the cockpit illumination which is blood red. The color red is supposed to lessen the effect of lightning flashes on the pilots vision.
@adamtaylor31
@adamtaylor31 4 жыл бұрын
I wish both audio channels worked on this vid, but i sure love to watch these beautiful airplanes still flying.
@CMFL77
@CMFL77 4 жыл бұрын
So awesome to see these kept flying. Convair made some damn good looking planes. Heck, that whole era...Convair, North American, Northrop, McDonnel Douglas, Lockheed ...just some ground-breaking beautiful aircraft. Sadly all those innovative companies couldn't survive being absorbed by the long reach of government contracts and mandates. Now you have 2 big boys and some subcontractors in the US. Kinda like the car market, most things flying today are incredibly homogenized. Almost no variety. Miss being able to lookup into the sky and really see some unique craft. Oh well...progress lol
@krabenaldt7605
@krabenaldt7605 4 жыл бұрын
These old planes are still beautiful.
@steveturpin4242
@steveturpin4242 4 жыл бұрын
The Connie looks like a dolphin with it's turned down tail etc...lovely planes...thanks.
@terrywilliamson8694
@terrywilliamson8694 4 жыл бұрын
Lived in Kansas City, grandfather worked on them when they flew for TWA. They have one in the downtown airport along with a museum. I saw her fly around..........simply beautiful aircraft. Left me speechless! I was able to watch my grandfather work on the rebuilt one. He always smiled when he pulled into the parking lot!
@flybyairplane3528
@flybyairplane3528 4 жыл бұрын
Terry Williamson hello, that would be a SUPER ‘G’. in TWA LIVERY, fund raising ‘save a connie ‘. Cheers From NJ. USA🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@deciosantosribeiro6222
@deciosantosribeiro6222 4 жыл бұрын
Esse também trabalhei, a única pessoa que achava ruim era minha esposa pois caçada voo despachado, uma camisa respingada de óleo. Muita saudades. Foram 35 anos de VARIG
@GERntleMAN
@GERntleMAN 2 жыл бұрын
The sound alone...amazing. When things used to be fun and entertaining
@dominiquestephenson195
@dominiquestephenson195 4 жыл бұрын
That Convair looks a lot like the YS-11 freighter I was loadmaster on for Airborne Express. It had an awesome flight deck, bright steam powered gauges and a HUGE brightly colored Meatball. Loved that Japanese plane. This field looks very similar to Piarco International in Trinidad.
@jackdoyle9448
@jackdoyle9448 4 жыл бұрын
Dominique maybe you knew my dad Jack Doyle Sr. Flew for Airborne in the '80s and '90s in YS-11's and DC-9's.
@dominiquestephenson195
@dominiquestephenson195 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jack, sorry just now seeing this....yes we had both aircraft types in Madison, WI (MSN) where I worked. I’m sorry but I can’t recall the various pilots names we worked with. We also had some small twins (Cessnas) that we’re strictly regional. I believe I left Airborne sometime around 1990 or so due to a trucking freight franchise called Enterprise Express out of Chicago who took over the contract from corporate Airborne and eliminated the aviation unit. They promised to truck Airbornes freight for some crazy cheap numbers and immediately cut everybody’s pay in half. I left as my focus at that time was flying commercial airlines and I had retired from NavAir in late 87. The commercial aviation industry was laying off pilots at that time and my career counselor at Embry Riddle advised me to wait so that’s why I took the loadmaster job. Anyway lucky thing I didn’t incur the expense for ATP because my kidneys failed a few years later (autoimmune condition) and I would not have kept my ticket. Oh and Enterprise Express lasted one year, failed miserably and corporate took over the Madison office again bringing back the Av unit. I think they were eventually bought out by DHL or FED EX. If Jack Sr. came thru Madison then I probably met him at least in passing. I remember having great friendly conversations with all of our pilots about their careers and all things aviation. They all were of course building hours for the majors and flying regional freight is a tough gig! The Cessna guys had some crazy winter weather flying into locations like Iron Mountain, Michigan in the UP. The sad part was that as AM loadmaster and driving an afternoon delivery route I made a lot more money than many of those brave young pilots did. I always felt that was very very wrong. Kudos to your pops. I’m glad he got to do what he loved for a living! 😎
@jimfowler5930
@jimfowler5930 4 жыл бұрын
Connie, how I love, how I love, dear Old Connie! Great video, thanks. Hope my partiality does not show too much!
@rodkeays8171
@rodkeays8171 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite airplane of all time, too bad it is sooooo smoky. Love to watch it start up with the fire and smoke though. Used to love watching it at the airport when I was a kid.
@stevek8829
@stevek8829 4 жыл бұрын
Radial engines get a little oil in the bottom cylinders. It clears out and smoke goes away.
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
Rod Keays I flew in the C-97 four engine transport while in the Air Force. This plane was designed in the mid to late forties and ) had four R-4360 Pratt and Whitney radials swinging 13 foot long four bladed props. They each could put out 3000 hp if necessary. Engine smoke was excessive when first started. They were designed with four rows of 7 cylinders each. The bottom four cylinders of each row Would collect oil while the plane sat. That adds up to 16 cylinders. When started each engine billowed enough white smoke to obscure the plane from view if you were aft of the wing. We flew with a 50 gallon barrel of additional oil to compensate for the loss on numerous flights to Hawaii.
@3melendr
@3melendr 6 жыл бұрын
Flew on a Super Connie back in 1953 to Love field Dallas, Texas. We started in Rio De Janeiro, landed at Quito and Lima, then Havana, then Dallas.
@Guitfiddlejase
@Guitfiddlejase 5 жыл бұрын
3melendr My late father flew on one from Logan to O Hare to Tucson in 1959..he always talked about that airplane.
@wilymcgee
@wilymcgee 7 жыл бұрын
my left ear really enjoyed the vid!
@christophercraig289
@christophercraig289 2 жыл бұрын
The Constellation is such a beautiful aircraft.
@hartmutwrith3134
@hartmutwrith3134 4 жыл бұрын
As a boy i had a flight in such a Lufthansa Convair!
@ianstewartaviation2634
@ianstewartaviation2634 4 жыл бұрын
Just love those big old smokey radial engines 👍
@awuma
@awuma 4 жыл бұрын
Fabulous! It's wonderful what HARS is doing.
@melvyncox3361
@melvyncox3361 5 жыл бұрын
Nice pair of old piston birds. Lovely❤😎👍!
@Kogut-95
@Kogut-95 4 жыл бұрын
It’s cool when a legend can be seen and heard live. In Russia, it is very difficult for enthusiasts to maintain such aircraft. The legendary polar aircraft Il-14 can be counted on the fingers of one hand. One or two living airplanes they have. I watched the video, there is even an IL-2 that flies. And work is underway to restore the Mi-4 piston powered helicopter.
@bernardboka4277
@bernardboka4277 4 жыл бұрын
Glib Kogut Russia has built many amazing and beautiful aircraft. Much respect.
@RedArrow73
@RedArrow73 4 жыл бұрын
In Rah-Shah, Aircraft restore YOU!!
@isdrakens
@isdrakens 4 жыл бұрын
I have flown in the Connie, 707, 727, DC-10, L1011,747 between Johannesburg and UK and Back quite a few times before the newer replacements became standard. I was only a small kid on the 2 connie flights onboard SAA before they were phased out and replaced by the 707 and 727. My strongest memory of the 707 was it felt like forever before it left the ground 😂
@cootumrebel
@cootumrebel 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of noise, smoke, and FIRE. Guzzlin a lotta fuel just sittin out there on the tarmac.
@paulyeh1754
@paulyeh1754 4 жыл бұрын
Experienced to watch C-121 to take off from Honk Kong Airport around year 1948 while I was a 8 year old kid.
@grampageorge3407
@grampageorge3407 4 жыл бұрын
Those are some great looking planes!
@orgcoast5990
@orgcoast5990 4 жыл бұрын
If I recall correctly, those 440's became pretty peppy when converted to turbo's and became 580's.
@alanjanos652
@alanjanos652 4 жыл бұрын
I remember flying in an Allegheny Airlines 580 in the late 1960's from Washington DC to Philadelphia. I was seated in the row directly in line with the LH propeller and recall, and even at this late date that it was VERY loud, but still an enjoyable and quick flight.
@ettoresshovel858
@ettoresshovel858 4 жыл бұрын
Good concept. Can see the nascent concept of the 737 in it.
@WAL_DC-6B
@WAL_DC-6B Жыл бұрын
Darn Connie idling drowned out the sound of the Convair taking off!
@MrTitan225
@MrTitan225 4 жыл бұрын
Nice prop planes ! the Queen of the skies will always be the Boeing 707 .... she ruled the skies back in the day ...
@paulstewart2ndchannel
@paulstewart2ndchannel 5 жыл бұрын
Such great footage! I do love Connie!
@jbj27406
@jbj27406 4 жыл бұрын
I imagine they were flying unladen for the most part, but both old girls got right on off the ground. Good job.
@eolson1964
@eolson1964 4 жыл бұрын
My Dad piloted a few of these in the Navy.
@JOSESANTOS2612
@JOSESANTOS2612 4 жыл бұрын
que maravillas de aviones .... el sonido de estos motores me fascina
@mikerca
@mikerca 4 жыл бұрын
Just gorgeous !
@TheSirjohn2012
@TheSirjohn2012 5 жыл бұрын
This old airplane actually has been converted with turboprops and many of these already now have the turboprops on them today.
@SPak-rt2gb
@SPak-rt2gb 4 жыл бұрын
Flew on one but don't remember it because my mom was six months pregnant with me leaving Hungary in 1956.
@lakebandit
@lakebandit 4 жыл бұрын
S. Pak . It may have been my father who flew you. Our Christmas plans that year were changed when he was called to duty for a government charter flight to bring Hungarians to Australia. Qantas had crews based in London back then. Great that so many were helped to escape.
@SPak-rt2gb
@SPak-rt2gb 4 жыл бұрын
@@lakebandit maybe that's why I came out almost two weeks late it was a bumpy ride to freedom and I wanted to catch up on some sleep. When people ask me where I'm from I just tell them "made in Hungary born in the USA.
@michelmotta4339
@michelmotta4339 3 жыл бұрын
Super constelletion e luxo só.
@robertgolden1080
@robertgolden1080 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic airplanes.
@davef.2811
@davef.2811 4 жыл бұрын
Right about 10:13, the o/b PRT on #1 instantaneously throws out a great big orange flame.
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
Dave F. Familiar with big radials, they are manually primed on start up. Not every cylinder gets the same amount of prime, some more, some less. But as the engine turns over an overloaded cylinder(or more) will hit its combustion cycle and let out a blast of orange flame. Poorly maintained engines do this almost every time.
@gregorylenton8200
@gregorylenton8200 3 жыл бұрын
great stuff.....thanks
@barrymorrow3319
@barrymorrow3319 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@PeterNGloor
@PeterNGloor 7 жыл бұрын
The R2800's make quite a lot of smoke, I remember them starting up with less of this.
@gosst60
@gosst60 6 жыл бұрын
Connies are 3350`s...
@RetiredPilot
@RetiredPilot 5 жыл бұрын
These big engines used over a gallon of oil an hour. When they shut down oil drained to the bottom of the engine and into the supercharger. This was a very normal start if the airplane had sat for awhile. I have about 1500 hours flying the 440 and over 10,000 in the 580
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
Ontario Senior 77 spent four years working on C-97 cargo planes in the Air Guard, 63 thru 66. Powered by P&W R-4360s. Worked as a flight line mechanic clearing up squawks written up by the pilot on its last flight. I was a licensed A&P mechanic as a civilian working for Ted Smith Aviation building the prototype Aerostar twin engine executive 6 place aircraft, which at the time was the fastest prop driven executive aircraft in the world. Most of my work on the C-97s was on the engines as they required quite a bit of regular maintenance and leaked so much oil, which was normal, that we needed to pull the cowling off and check to make sure the engines hadn't sprung an oil leak somewhere. They also ate starter motors. Cranking the 4360 through the necessary prop rotations prior to starting with switches off and then with switches on for start really heated up the starters. It was a real project to remove and replace the starters. We flew from California to Viet Nam via Hawaii and Japan and back three or four times a week. 146Th. Air Transport Squadron out of Van Nuys Municipal airport. Our squadron had about 20 planes in constant rotation. They have all been scrapped at Davis Monthan air base out in the Mojave desert.
@valterantonio8042
@valterantonio8042 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, congratulations for share !!!
@lendavidhart9710
@lendavidhart9710 4 жыл бұрын
I was told years ago, that it was called a connie, because the navigator used a skylight built in the plane to guide off of the constellations? Edit, thank you for posting.
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
Len David Hart I grew up a few miles from Burbank California where the connies were built in the early fifties. It has the most graceful airframe design I have ever seen.
@guillermocortes442
@guillermocortes442 3 жыл бұрын
Estos eran verdareros aviones manejados por verdaderos pilotos, no lo que vemos ahora que una computadora te lleva a tu destino.
@ulrichjackisch7637
@ulrichjackisch7637 3 жыл бұрын
the heart of the engine was my job
@michaeltarasenkoop2389
@michaeltarasenkoop2389 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a lot of room on the airport as far as runway and land area !
@hcrun
@hcrun 4 жыл бұрын
Two great restored aircraft and a nice video....spoiled only by the digitising effect of modern cameras which give a stopped or slow-motion effect to the props. I HATE that!
@cameronnovini4660
@cameronnovini4660 5 жыл бұрын
HARS was very interesting. The guided tour was very informative. Looking forward to 1 hour on the flight deck of the Qantas 747-400 City of Canberra going through the systems of the 747-400 with a 747 pilot.
@ClaudioMOliva
@ClaudioMOliva 2 жыл бұрын
beauties!!
@Joe-GMY
@Joe-GMY 2 жыл бұрын
The shutter speed of your camera is too high (which can be seen from the rotation of the propellers - no blur effect). Shutter speed must be just twice the frame rate of your footage and not more in order to achieve the blur effect on the propellers.
@andgate2000
@andgate2000 4 жыл бұрын
18 cyl per engine...2 spark plugs per cyl...that’s 144 spark plugs to check for the engineer on the old crt ocyilliscope as a pre flight check. Not to mention the magnetos.
@maxsdad538
@maxsdad538 Жыл бұрын
Found a lot of "double shorted secondary's" on run-up. 😁😁
@danr5105
@danr5105 5 жыл бұрын
What is that puff of smoke (looks like left side,near gear) at the 6:57 point?
@MiniSprint58
@MiniSprint58 4 жыл бұрын
Dan R It was a puddle of water on the runway.
@mikehagman8187
@mikehagman8187 Жыл бұрын
Nice Birds!!!
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 2 жыл бұрын
Are those Grimes extendable landing lights on the Connie's wings?!
@tresaq11
@tresaq11 6 жыл бұрын
Are these planes still flying commercial flights? I really would like to book a flight.
@sylviaelse5086
@sylviaelse5086 4 жыл бұрын
Do they have to warn the fire station in advance so that they don't bring the equipment out in response to all the smoke?
@tacitdionysus3220
@tacitdionysus3220 4 жыл бұрын
It's only a small regional airport, so no airport fire service there. There is a local NSW Rural Fire Service Control Centre (bush fires) and a NSW Fire and Rescue (urban fires) training facility on the airport property, but they would be quite used to the behaviour of the HARS aircraft.
@PrismRisen
@PrismRisen 3 жыл бұрын
Connie starts with #4 engine, while in dozens of other videos I have seen, they all started with #3. Wonder why? The Connie was the Marilyn Monroe/Rita Hayworth of aircraft design.
@daviddowling9830
@daviddowling9830 4 жыл бұрын
We need an ANA vintage DC 3 to complete this,as in Ansett ANA
@dingo5827
@dingo5827 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like Albion Park airport Illawarra
@tango22ah
@tango22ah Жыл бұрын
What is that screeching noise coming from the Connie at 4:10?
@rogerb5615
@rogerb5615 5 жыл бұрын
Great, non-PC clouds of oil smoke and blasts of EPA-offending orange flames. LOVE IT!
@GRHDA
@GRHDA 4 жыл бұрын
They should can that beautiful aromatic smoke . Chanel number 5 no thank you,
@matiaslabonia3596
@matiaslabonia3596 4 жыл бұрын
Wich plane is that sitting behind the Connie?
@JR1300r
@JR1300r 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video cheers 🤣
@stevebear4313
@stevebear4313 7 жыл бұрын
What happened to the Convair? Didn't see it at Avalon
@rogercrawford4263
@rogercrawford4263 7 жыл бұрын
It had engine trouble shortly after takeoff and had to return to HARS at Albion Park
@rickydoolous5356
@rickydoolous5356 6 жыл бұрын
Looked like a flapless takeoff from the Convair?
@bosscockyone
@bosscockyone 3 жыл бұрын
was there ever a more gracefull loking aircraft?
@ericbitzer5247
@ericbitzer5247 3 жыл бұрын
Is that Connie's brakes squealing like that?
@expfighter5112
@expfighter5112 4 жыл бұрын
boy did you see the shot of fire from the #4 left outboard engine at 10:13 ? normal?
@1218omaroo
@1218omaroo 4 жыл бұрын
Expfighter ExpScout Completely normal. They’re known for it. In fact, at night they are an amazing sight to see.
@expfighter5112
@expfighter5112 4 жыл бұрын
@@1218omaroo didn't know that
@1218omaroo
@1218omaroo 4 жыл бұрын
Expfighter ExpScout Just look for “Constellation flames” on KZbin :)
@expfighter5112
@expfighter5112 4 жыл бұрын
@@1218omaroo I did, and wouldn't that indicate that the engines are running alittle too rich on fuel?
@1218omaroo
@1218omaroo 4 жыл бұрын
Wright R-3350’s were known for it. It’s not an operational issue.
@ifanterist
@ifanterist 5 жыл бұрын
wery nice
@artsietopology
@artsietopology 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't 3-4-2-1 the usual start-up sequence for the Connies rather than the 4-3-2-1 done here?
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
artsietopology The same question arises with any four engined aircraft. The four engine C-97 cargo plane started 1-4-3-2. Inboard of #2 was the first level drop down entry and exit stairs. Inboard of #3 was a massive second level cargo door. By starting #1 & #4 the pilot left the only two means of safe escape from the aircraft accessible to all those on board. Over both wings were emergency exit doors and they too were left useable. I flew in them many times. The sequence seemed reasonable to me.
@PaulStewartAviation
@PaulStewartAviation 7 жыл бұрын
WOW you would not feel comfortable flying one of those over the pacific ocean if you saw those engines starting! :)
@hybrid7681
@hybrid7681 7 жыл бұрын
" Connie " can fly me any where, Flames or not...she magnificent :-)
@gosst60
@gosst60 6 жыл бұрын
All normal Paul :)
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Stewart I flew over the Pacific a number of times in C-97 cargo planes. On start up the engines could cloud out the aircrafts image. By the time it taxied to take off the smoke had disappeared. Once you experience the massive thunder and acceleration on take off you trust the plane to get you across the Pacific.
@rinogaddi825
@rinogaddi825 4 жыл бұрын
Che Ricordi!!!!!
@Agislife1960
@Agislife1960 6 жыл бұрын
The Connie is one sexy beast, and the Convair is a well proven prop liner, but it won't keep pace with the connie in the air. Overall with it's P&W engines the Convair is probably more reliable thou.
@mickboakes7023
@mickboakes7023 4 жыл бұрын
Music.🇬🇧
@r08800
@r08800 7 жыл бұрын
Those port side engines looked a mess on Sunday afternoon at Avalon. I think she was leaking more oil than she was burning.
@rogercrawford4263
@rogercrawford4263 7 жыл бұрын
Runs on a total loss oil system
@gosst60
@gosst60 6 жыл бұрын
Connie burns 2 gallons of oil per hour.....24 gall oil tanks x4, ran out of oil before she runs out of fuel :) in the old days ;)
@tacitdionysus3220
@tacitdionysus3220 4 жыл бұрын
With radials, if it ain't leaking it means you've got no oil.
@PeterNGloor
@PeterNGloor 3 жыл бұрын
A pity her sister in South Africa crashed before going to the Netherlands.
@TheSirjohn2012
@TheSirjohn2012 7 жыл бұрын
The audio on this is terrible and why the left side,of this?Audio should be left and right channels period.
@tremayne3
@tremayne3 6 жыл бұрын
Terrible thing they did with the audio. The sound of those radials is something beyond wonderful. They killed it here.
@chrisrio6885
@chrisrio6885 6 жыл бұрын
Well,I'm listening to this with an ear bud, left channel only. i found the Convair to be SPOT ON, I know since i maintained Convair 340/440's for quite a few years. The Convair has a unique sound at idle. I really enjoyed the DC-6 though, short exhaust and no muffler like the Convair... CHEERS!
@stuartgarfatth1448
@stuartgarfatth1448 5 жыл бұрын
Great job!. Brilliant images, backgrounds and sounds. Here, you've captured the sounds, images, character and essence of these two aeroplanes. Each are different, but in many ways are the same. Curves of design, (Oh Connie!), airframe, engine start up smoke, sound of radials, and so much more. HARS, THANK YOU. What you do, you do SO WELL!.
@RedArrow73
@RedArrow73 5 жыл бұрын
Is she a 1649?
@tomsamuelson8512
@tomsamuelson8512 3 жыл бұрын
1049
@karin.mathias3985
@karin.mathias3985 4 жыл бұрын
Who S U P E R SPEKTAKULÄR 👍
@maxdelacroy5739
@maxdelacroy5739 5 жыл бұрын
Esse de dois motores tem o fundo feio.
@dorseyh
@dorseyh 4 жыл бұрын
When starting it has 4 engines. When it takes off it has only two enegines.
@nightlightabcd
@nightlightabcd 4 жыл бұрын
I guess you know it's two different planes.
@AIRMANBEAR
@AIRMANBEAR 4 жыл бұрын
WHY SO MUCH SMOKE ON STARTUP????????
@gusm5128
@gusm5128 4 жыл бұрын
Oil rings are fked I’m guessing
@lakebandit
@lakebandit 4 жыл бұрын
They always smoked that way, a result of the radial design and oil pooling in the lower cylinders. Once running the burn heaps of oil for lubrication.
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
AIRMAN BEAR worked four years on three thousand hp radials (R-4360s). They are not built to tight tolerances as part of the design. All radials smoke on start. Old poorly maintained radials (there are a lot of them in South America) lay out a smoke screen from start up to landing and fall out of the sky on a regular basis, but they are very cheap and parts are everywhere, especially in the Brazilian jungles where the plane made its last landing.
@massey4business
@massey4business 3 жыл бұрын
Poor ol' Connie's got arthritis. She cried for the better part of her taxing to the runway. Though she sure is pretty hot for her age I must say! 😂
@thh4584
@thh4584 Жыл бұрын
I remember we used to go over and check out this connie when it was parked at the jet base in mascot when we had nothing to do, oil leaks over the place.
@gusm5128
@gusm5128 4 жыл бұрын
Oil rings are shot
@timmayer8723
@timmayer8723 4 жыл бұрын
Gus M it does look that way, but radials were built to loose tolerances and without exception all radial engines smoke some.
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