Harvey Keitel on the well-educated

interviewed by Charlie Rose
Aired on: Monday 01/24/1994

[@burkejones8277]

I work with quite a few people who are educated far beyond their intelligence. I grew up on a farm; then, I joined the Marines; then, I went to college; then, I went to graduate school. I sit in meetings with people quite often who don’t seem to have any experience outside of academia. Many seem to lack self awareness, and I often wonder how some get through each day…

[@ronfroehlich4697]

One of the major reasons why the education system is a dumpster fire in America is that almost every single educator and administrator involved has zero life experience outside of academia.

[@burkejones8277]

@@ronfroehlich4697 I agree with that statement.

[@crabbyalthegrump641]

As someone who helped a childhood friend on his farm for 2 summers of my early teen life, I read "grew up on a farm" and the rest of the credentials didnt matter ... I hope one day a man like you might be president and have the respect and authority to make the changes this country needs.

[@burkejones8277]

@@crabbyalthegrump641 Well, that is a very nice thing to say. I have been a mayor in a very small town. I’d like to think we made a difference for some folks. But people like me don’t get to be president. Politics is a nasty endeavor, even in a small town at times.

[@garyfrancis6193]

Me too.

[@JimElford]

The desire to learn and understand is far more valuable and noble than the completion of a curriculum. From natural curiosity comes wisdom.

[@powermove_films]

Well said Jim!

[@odysseus8403]

Real

[@davidnelson7719]

Sure... just happens that the people who have a desire to learn and understand overwhelmingly end up with the completion of a curriculum.

[@dzanier]

True.

[@deankruse2891]

Curriculums, good ones, are designed to challenge your understanding of a concept and advance it.

[@YungM.D.]

“45 films! “All that indicates is I didn’t have a lot of leads” what a humble dude; one of the finest actors of his generation

[@CharleneCoscarelli-vk2bc]

I’ve never heard this man talk. It seems to me like the true epitome of heart, intelligence & bravery.

[@ronsilver4854]

Knowing him personally, I can tell you that you are 100% right about Harvey: he is this person

[@peterdennis6106]

We cannot abdicate responsibility to the formally educated. He's a street Hitchens. Absolute joy to find this. I've always admired his work. Now I admire the man

[@CharleneCoscarelli-vk2bc]

@@peterdennis6106 What’s a street Hitchens?

[@JoeKoOhNo]

He's a dope.

[@JoeKoOhNo]

@@CharleneCoscarelli-vk2bc A dope.

[@janettucker3196]

Always loved Harvey Keitel as an actor. He burned up the screen with his presence. You could feel the tremendous energy of his inner being.

[@thekip6408]

"Tremendous energy" is right. Not to discredit the guy.

[@moonroxxit]

Me too. An actor of incredible courage and depth of character.

[@phillipsolesky2677]

Charlie Rose doesn't even have the capacity to understand what he's talking about.

[@konstantinivanov1986]

And that is the exact reason he got let go from Apocalipse now.

[@andrewmclaughlin2701]

Bad Lieutenant

[@zaki2dunya321]

Facts. As a academic I'm ashamed of how many ppl worship fornal education as if it makes you a prophet. Plenty of educated fools and manipulative wizards

[@kanesmillie40]

Academic... rrright

[@zaki2dunya321]

@@kanesmillie40 aka working in education. I need you need attention with with your trolling but come on. At least have a insult in there. What makes it impossible that I could be that?

[@lonesomealeks4206]

@@zaki2dunya321 Hope you aren't teaching English...

[@leplus1]

⁠@@lonesomealeks4206 It’s a comment… on KZbin. This platform doesn’t warrant using formal writing, but heeey, keep being rude.

[@karamlevi]

Good your grounded and open minded. There’s a advantage to academic education in the fact of knowing it’s not that great per say. You got the graduation process and you can socialize easily well via culture conversations like I went to this college you went to that one… joke joke and share… If you don’t go to upper level school you easily miss allot of social vibes. I know, I didn’t go. I’ve also hit over 1000 books on my own and know allot of things ect from exploring and decking in… Problem is as I stated earlier and one never gets a outer confirmation of accomplishments. School does do a good job of sealing that in. Too good sometimes when a fool with a degree is pompous she/he / they ect.

[@oldcop18]

I got my MBA while working different shifts on the PD and going to court. That said some of the most arrogant, stupid people I’ve met wore their advanced degrees on their sleeve looking down on everyone else. My advanced degree got me a nice bump in salary and that’s why I did it. Mr. Keitel is absolutely right, much respect for him and many like him.

[@_munkykok_]

That's why some people get degrees, to legitimize looking down on everyone else. It's a formal excuse. And it's also why wars and crises of all kinds are being conjured up, as a reason to push some politics / economic changes / businesses, or shutting down competitors. Aka, how to transfer tax money to where you want to, and/or lock people up and destroy businesses, at will. (Under 'emergency condition protocol', aka self-righteous dictatorship practice.) 'We totally didn't want to, but the stats showed us we had to do it, to save lives. And look, the stats also show that we totally saved lives. We may have overreacted, in good will, but we did the best we could with what little information we had, in our humble well-educated expert opinion, that overrides everyone elses, obviously, and rightfully so.' And the ruling goes on. In a nutshell, the academia is there to deliver legitimacy to power. And the media delivers their message, whilst defaming everyone else. (#Excusonomy, #Lockdowns, #Tyranny)

[@klowen7778]

Agreed, higher education and a 'degree' are no guarantee of any kinda 'superiority'. Though IMHO, Harvey's intellectual _curiosity_ is the exception rather than the rule among most lower income folks, who are often the most resistant to any form of 'change', and generally show a marked disdain for _edu-macation', if not outright 'anti-intellectualism' And apparently he was also able to overcome the other 'cultural' problems that often come with it, like the frequent chip on the shoulder, sense of 'victimhood', and 'learned helplessness', "I am neither especially clever nor especially gifted. I am only very, very curious." -Albert Einstein

[@darbyohara]

The “educated” academics are ruining this world the “uneducated common sense rubes” created.

[@Manikese]

You sound like you have a great heart. Thank you for your service.

[@herebemadness7054]

​@@klowen7778 Interesting view, you have. The opinion that the educated community is more accepting of change is somewhat laughable. Though the continuous alterations to science, while never admitting the necessity, is fun to watch. The complete inability to admit that their education might be flawed, or incomplete, that a great many have been less than ethical throughout that education, that a majority of that education is regurgitating outdated and/or biased information, that the educators were taught the same information, these things make the less-educated question the value. From where you sit, yes, the lower life-forms do seem resistant to your changes.

[@Enr227]

Harvey Keitel is right. Formal education has absolutely nothing to do with a good heart and moral code, and especially, talent.

[@511cel2]

​@@elemenopi55I agree. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

[@MrBillcale]

i'm a technocat and good intentions wont built technology or a functioning paradign hes experssing feelings feelings are dangerous they interfere with logic its why things are so mesed up people feel they dont think they dont know how society should be rin be experts like singapore is

[@511cel2]

@@MrBillcale word mumbo jumbo 🤮

[@Enr227]

@@MrBillcale there's something for everyone

[@tomrich4571]

I have no idea what a “technocat” is beyond being someone who can’t spell for shit or construct a sentence worth reading @@MrBillcale

[@williamdelong8265]

Wow this is the most down to earth wisdom. Only actor I ever heard who is a real person. Harvey is a American treasure.

[@nonyadamnbusiness9887]

Notice how rarely the press asks him about politics.

[@CrackheadHuntersDopeDealer]

Old School!

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

Experience is good, formal learning is good, the combination of both is better than either on their own.

[@howard5992]

Truth. It's not so complicated.

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

@@howard5992 While I currently work in a higher learning setting, I always personally felt that in most cases doing and experiencing should be at the fore, if nothing else suggests the contrary. Theory can be useful when we get stumped in practice or needs to investigate our own presumptions because something is not working, and certainly it can offer new perspectives and help indicate solutions or potential ways ahead. But at the end of the day, the world is more complex than theory and sometimes experience and the intuitions derived from it are just more useful than formal description which is after all - reductive. I guess it’s a Dewey-ish scepticism on my part. As a student I always used to gravitate towards teachers or voices in the field which had SOLID experience inform their application and use of theory but also had broad scientific or academic knowledge of the field.

[@Telescope1994]

Combine experience and knowledge, and you get wisdom

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

@@Telescope1994 yup

[@jamesbassett8470]

I have Ph.D. Some of the smartest and wisest people I know do not have advanced degrees. They are insightful, enlightened, generous and filled with love. They have experience, a healthy skepticism, they ask lots of questions of the world and listen carefully for the answers. Formal education has a place, but it has a lot of room for improvement.

[@darbyohara]

Proving that knowledge and wisdom have no correlation to education

[@madgepins1967]

You have a PhD, but you typed it as "Ph.D.?" Pretty fishy, mate.

[@stevejones8660]

Some of the smartest and wisest people I know do not have a degree. Whereas all the stupidest most inept people I know do.

[@donaldspaulding6973]

Harvey is spot on about the arts, that's why it's the first thing to be cut from public education.

[@a-a-ron6822]

There are still public schools of the arts

[@k.k.8394]

Statements like this are why we need more and better education. Otherwise, we end up with an antiintellectual utilitarian society that values money over everything else. Saying that we don't need education in philosophy, ethics, political science, sociology, history, etc. is about as narrow-minded as it gets. That's the kind of society where Harvard economists run the show, and they surely don't empathise with the 'common folks'

[@TheBcvg2002]

There are many routes to becoming an educated human being. Harvey Keitel is indeed one.

[@JackFate76]

Harvey Keitel is a route?

[@TheBcvg2002]

Yes. I learn a lot from him when I listen to him speak. It was my point to make that comment a double entendre. @@JackFate76

[@plasticweapon]

@@JackFate76 yes.

[@aWomanFreed]

Also many routes to becoming a degenerate

[@Mr.aAdDies]

His manner of speaking belies his lack of formal education, he’s speaking in vague generalities, about geopolitics as if the arts/and/or the THEATRE has ever solved such issues

[@Cuckold_Cockles]

Harvey Keitel - Intelligent, intellectual, outstanding actor. One of the great crime-drama figures

[@snshull]

I think Mr. Keitel is talking about developing empathy through theatre. If only this were a viable proposition.

[@maxalberts2003]

The only thing I ever developed through theatre was a stiff neck from looking behind me all the time to make sure no one was about to stab me in the back. However, the same can be said for med school or any other professional graduate program. (And you should meet the young seminarians I've been introduced to. It's all about who gets the wealthiest church by kissing the fattest ass.) It all just goes with the territory. My motto: knives out.

[@madcyril4135]

@@maxalberts2003 Hello from u.k. You are correct! Does not matter where you work or study, it’s the survival of the fittest. I worked for 35 yrs in a U.K.based, U.S. owned car assembly plant. Survival of the fittest, is an understatement! Talk about characters! Everyone apart from about 5 people in 35 yrs, turned In an Oscar winning performance every shift! ME included! DOG EAT DOG!

[@glassgoat9601]

I would say that whom or what you become educated by, is important. You can receive a wonderful education in a formal setting, on a farm or in industry. Being lucky enough to meet the correct mentors/teachers at the correct moment in your life is the difference between a full and happy life, or one you come to regret.

[@podlou9939]

How refreshing to actually listen to an interview where the interviewer asks intelligent questions and allows space for the interviewee to develop answers. When will this style ever return?

[@ginosuarez5941]

I have always looked up to this actor. His personality and integrity is in my opinion pristine. Too bad he did not appear in more movies. He must be a superb stage actor. His strength and skill stems from his honest approach to living ..

[@JibberJabJones]

the problem with "in" is it's terrifying. not many people want to look. because you see death, there. you see inadequacy. you see all the ways the world is impermanent; all the ways that what we used to believe was whole, when we were children, is actually fragmented. and, most terrifying of all, you see the artificiality of this world that evolution has forced us to build, and how unsatisfying it is. yet, people who avoid "in" will also not realise the most valuable truth of all: that "in" is all that matters; and that it leads us to look outward at every one of our fellow human beings, and see that we are everything to each other. there is nothing else.

[@furtherdefinitions1]

Once I learned how to read, I learned more by going to the library and bookstores than I did in school

[@TheRomeerome]

I miss this show so much!

[@jonvia]

I really like what Harvey is saying. I grew up in a family where basically everyone had a fancy degree and they only respect other people with a fancy degree. Its funny when someone doesnt have that fancy degree but has so much experience instead. All Ive ever wanted was a career in music and most of my family thinks im a crazy person but they'll never understand the power that music really has on me and on the masses that care about the art form.

[@JSon-yl1ty]

Fancy degrees are good for toilet paper.

[@nodokurwy]

I didnt remember writing this comentaer but it Is exacly my expirience. Now i can only be piano tuner but still in a road to finish my music school and diplom . To be clear i didnt even start after me losing that posibility but now when i am grown up i know Its my goal. I love pianos and i was exceptionaly good at it . Finishing school kind of didnt match to tor comment but i mean Its two in one and also anybody Is apricieating it and it sad. They also dont find people without any education atrractive . Its very common between educated people. I preffer simple people instead

[@robertordonez9242]

Lol, yeah that’s definitely the life of a musician alright… no one will respect you until/IF you find success . Comes with the territory. May the odds be in your favor. Good news is….the grass isn’t greener on the other side.

[@nodokurwy]

I find it attractive for me now when I am grown up just to do it only for myself. No competitions no shining no parents no friends no enything except Me and now it is pure i know this. I won't find any succes at classical piano music and it is even better. I only want to maintain my talent for me.

[@brushstroke3733]

Sad to say, it's probably even harder to make a career in music now than it was in the 60s - 00s. Unless you want to pump out formulaic "content" (beats with heavily repeated, hyper-simplistic lyrics), your art will most likely fall through the cracks. Very few real artists get exposure anymore.

[@MesmerBaas]

Education is not the end all be all, but it certainly helps. In psychology they talk about critical periods. During critical periods in your life, it is important to be exposed to appropriate challenges in order to grow. Education is a way to challenge yourself during the various critical periods in your youth. That doesn't mean you cannot be challenged in other ways during that period. Going into acting and such can also allow you to be challenged. However, for many not being in school during youth is not replaced by another challenge or experience.

[@MJanovicable]

Words of wisdom, thank you, sir.

[@ChannelMath]

great comment. But I think we should be careful of the tendency to discount formal education, because this tendency is used by those with power and money who don't want to fund public education. I'm no fan of public education as it exists, but I don't want to get rid of it. Generally speaking, educated people are a threat to entrenched power. In a democracy we need this, but this is a blind spot in American ideology (which goes with another blind spot: the misunderstanding that we Americans have no national ideology). It's also reflected in the lack of (or seeming lack of) intelligence and education on the part of our elected officials. Bush, Trump, Biden all display this. Bill Clinton is extremely intelligent and educated, but you wouldn't know it from watching him on TV. In America, those that show their intelligence and education lose elections.

[@clemfarley7257]

Education helps. Being exposed to timeless questions by some of the greatest minds helps. Indoctrination doesn’t. Learning the new tenets of approved thought doesn’t.

[@abhinavdangwal6180]

Education is also a means of emancipation for the enslaved both in the world and in his own mind.

[@gordong2457]

Great comment

[@rhatid]

Harvey Keitel you are the man! I had a similar journey and education can be hitching oneself to a starbeam. Absolutely could not be done without friends - could be done without family, but absolutely my journey, any such journey, can never be undertaken with friends, good good friends.

[@darrengagliardi1540]

Great sentiments by Harvey! So true that there is often great wisdom outside of the intellectual elites. And there is often stunning lack of wisdom among the highly educated. But it’s not fair to stigmatize either group. I’ve certainly known lots of small minded undereducated people also - and exemplary intellectuals. I tend to think education is great, but, more importantly, wisdom and kindness and openness to others is even greater. But having a bias toward learning and self examination tends to right the ship in life.

[@user-zh1th8sz2l]

Thanks Darren, that was.... enlightening. How generous of you not to pick one side as being any better than the other. That's the sort of the magnanimity you couldn't have picked up anywhere outside of a top 50-rated liberal-arts college. And I don't think anything in particular leads to the right ship in life. Human society is pretty much doomed. It's staring us straight in the face, and it is by now abundantly clear that humanity in general as well as the individual human beings that comprise it, have not picked the right ship in life. Not even close. And it's difficult to point to anything nearer the beating heart of own imminent self-destruction than our formal/higher education system. It's nothing but a class system, that's all it ever was. A class system for the post-aristocratic age, and dispenser of de facto pedigree. And if anything has poisoned the hearts and minds, indeed the very fabric of modern western society, it's that. And it's that naked and totally undisguised chase for class and status, and all the amenities and security and comparative privilege and self-worth that comes with it.... and for which higher education, as well as the ensuing rapacious careerism and bourgeois elitism, is the principal vehicle by which to obtain it in our blessedly liberal and enlightened society, that will have destroyed us. So I'm just saying.... And I will add I wasn't really expecting to get this random Harvey Keitel clip in my KZbin feed, but I'm happy to one-up his sentiments expressed....

[@FoxboroPiper]

@@user-zh1th8sz2l darren has a simple and accurate point, while you have verbal diarrhea.

[@markberryhill2715]

Excellent commentary from the both of you. I've known both educated and uneducated folks who were idiots!

[@chriscarbaugh3936]

An old interview and yet as timely today as ever!

[@Ladygaga4047]

I remember painting a hotel and everyone knew Harvey was on the way but when he got there it may as well being anybody. He is a nice person like anyone else. The name was bigger than he was. He was a normal man just doing his own thing. Thats why i doint understand celebrities as being imported.. he didnt try to be important and thats the good thing about it

[@jessklay8594]

This was a beautiful interview. I have so much more respect for this man now than I did before (and I had LOADS of respect for him before this video)

[@MicheleJane]

Ditto

[@cassandra9699]

I hope a lot of young men find his wisdom. He's speaking from wisdom. He's the real deal, folks!

[@jackwilloughby239]

While playing violin in the Orchestra Pit, in a College production of "the Music Man" Totally out of the Blue, I was asked to read for the lead part in "Picnic'.so I relate very well with what Harvey is saying here. We all Act out our parts in Life, but when you hit the Stage, there are no Illusions, nothing to Hide Behind. It was one of the most Real things I have ever done. A group of Strangers became a Family. We all had learned each other's weaknesses. So we could call each other's Bluffs. The big plus is that you can learn practically everything: Carpentry, Sewing, Painting, Set Design, Singing, Dancing, Electrical, Lighting, Sound, Marketing, Makeup, and have a lot of fun doing it. Tom Hanks's new novel on the making of a Film, explores this from nearly every Angle and is a Fun and Brilliant read. I recommend that anyone interested, seek out a local theater group and Volunteer.

[@philgwilliam77]

These words from ex-marine #HarveyKeitel about politics & education have as much resonance today as they did 30 years ago. Arguably even more so now, due to recent events.

[@sword649]

DUEL, is one of the very best films with little dialog, you'll see this great actor in, a champion on screen!

[@bryanbryan2968]

When carefully orchestrated, a balance between a formal and an informal education can be the most holistically lucrative.

[@johnprendergast1338]

I was a C (2.00000))) college student in the 60s -What an experience !!!...I saw Keitel in the Dualist...Enjoyed it ...

[@LouisWritingSomethingCrazy]

Well educated doesn't necessarily mean intelligent.

[@leebennett1821]

See you already got there 😂😂😂

[@XBKLYN]

I kind of agree but would say well educated doesn't necessarily mean intellectual.

[@A91367]

One of the most powerful talks I’ve heard. This is gold.

[@dzanier]

He’s an excellent actor who takes chances. Not too many of those.

[@highwaystar3780]

Bad Lieutenant

[@jondavidgriffin]

I love his intensity and need to communicate ideas for which words don't exist.

[@BrockLanders]

I used to believe that having a high degree of formal education was the mark of an intelligent person. After the last decade or so however, I’ve come to realize how arrogant and close-minded many of the people in academia are. Complete intolerance of diversity of views is the opposite of intelligence.

[@DepakoteMeister]

Education gives you knowledge. Knowledge can be true or false. Intelligence is the capability to work out unknowns from using knowledge.

[@CrackheadHuntersDopeDealer]

I'm glad I never thought that! Phew!😬 70's Baby here!😁

[@tracyfox466]

Mr. Keitel is absolutely right!👍🏻 I have 3 degrees, but did those degrees make me any smarter, wiser, or superior in any way? Absolutely not! I only went to school and got those degrees in order to make more money. Sadly, I found after all that hard work I only ended up turning around and taking whatever extra money I received to pay off the exorbitant student loans I was forced to get in order to receive them.🙄 I am far more proud of my life experiences and the wisdom I’ve learned through traveling and from all of the people I’ve met along the way on my journey in life. I would have to say that I probably educated myself far more than any education I received through schooling. I have made more friends and met people from every walk of life that do not have a formal education that have really taught me far more about life and myself than I could have ever learned in school. That is why it is so important to travel, try new things, be creative, develop one’s spirituality, and be open to many different kinds of people and experiences, as it is those things that will teach you more about the world and your place within it.🙏🏻❤️☮️

[@CC-hx5fz]

I left school at 16, and went to University later. I ended up with 2 Degrees and a Masters but those aren't the qualifications that I'm most proud of. I'm not a vocational teacher but I did a course in tutoring adults. That was the first time I understood that knowledge doesn't matter very much without communicating with other human beings.

[@JoeKoOhNo]

Bwahaha ha ha ha ha ha. That's hilarious.

[@timbruner8056]

This is the wisest comment in this whole comments section.

[@mikebrown9850]

Critical thinking with an open mind is the key to real education. Success is determined much more by work ethic than a degree from the Ivy League.

[@madcyril4135]

Hello from the u.k. Correct, my dad told me something similar on those lines when i was about 14 yrs old. Like listen to other people’s point of view. Even your opposites, and always put yourself In the other blokes shoes. Listen to people, and if someone rarely speaks and has an opinion, look at that it could be the right one.

[@TheRhNegative]

Work ethic? You mean going to work at the same time to the same place with the same people day in & day out for decades, toiling away for some corporate entity's bottom line ?

[@mikebrown9850]

@@TheRhNegative I’m self employed. I have worked for others though and been rewarded for diligent work ethic as well.

[@cypherpleb]

@@TheRhNegativethat’s not what work ethic is. Work on yourself, for yourself, by yourself, consistently, as a way of life. Work ethic without understanding where is the best use of your time and efforts and what is just a means to an end is how you end up with people stuck the mindset and life you describe. It’s because they left school unable to think critically, which is essential to solve the problems of your own life This doesn’t happen at scale, by accident. State education produces what the state needs, and that’s what drives the design. It’s designed to produce millions of low skilled service workers who have written off their own chances before they even leave school.

[@kickerpunter8414]

This is so apropos. And so fitting today, as well regarding the war in Ukraine. Great interview.

[@alexanderh9878]

I understand why Charlie Rose was canceled. However, miss the kind of intelligent conversation he provided. I learned a lot in this program.

[@markberryhill2715]

I was thinking the same thing,and that this is an old clip judging by how young these two look,and also I was probably watching real time because I hardly missed him at the time.

[@jdarling5315]

He was an incredible interviewer who would always take things deeper than most

'I'm Winston Wolf. I solve problems.' - very, very cool, thank you!

[@dalouman]

Never exposed to this man this way before. Impressed

[@nigelleslie3896]

Wow! This blows your head off. He should have stood to be the President. As a fellow lower middle class, I love his his first line 'Herein lies the rub' (Hamlet).

[@MrPhotodoc]

I have found through education that it's not so much wisdom but dedication. That's what society values in the end.

[@darbyohara]

It’s the piece of paper not the knowledge Look at how society views someone who drops out with 1 semester left before graduation vs one who completed it. The former has 87.5% of the knowledge of the latter yet the chasm of perceived knowledge in the public eye is not mere 12%

[@jovandjuric9694]

A true genius! Thank you for this clip. 🙂

[@rabukan5842]

One of the greatest actors of American cinema and theatre. Period. Education, whether formal or informal, needs to be ongoing as a result of curiosity. Harvey earned a PhD in Theater and Life studies.

[@NudePostingConspiracyTheories]

I come from terrible addictions. Barely made it out. Rehab people got a hold of me, and they loved educating me ABOUT addiction, and (supposedly) about my childhood and life. It got worse. I got free by finding ways to get forgiveness of others, and get free of myself. The education-oh, the pain !

[@regmunday8354]

Education and good grammar isn't the same as high intelligence, and you Mr Keitel are highly intelligent.

[@MrMangistau]

Enlightening interview. Thank you!

[@BaronEvola123]

In the West, education used to be based on a classical education.

[@epsteenwusmerdered9878]

“higher education” now (and already by the time of this interview) is more about proving how loyal you will be to the current thing.

[@antseanbheanbocht4993]

​@@epsteenwusmerdered9878Forcing kids to regurgitate that which the state finds agreeable in any given area. We are made to be cogs in their machine, any remnants of our natural instincts removed, docile followers of big brother.

[@erichvonmolder9310]

I've thought about this before. I lived on campus for 4 years and a very good university and I learned much more from the people I met than whatever I learned in the classroom.

[@joblo2671]

I'm from AL, born in rural area 1980. I aced all tests in school and did not play sports or fit in very well. I thought all the people around me were simple, backwards fools. I left AL to go to boot camp in Chicago, then I was stationed in San Diego. People are the same everywhere. A lot of the "old country folk" are a LOT smarter (and even wiser in some cases) than I gave them credit for. Also, I've come to realize there are different types of intelligence for sure. And wisdom and knowledge are not the same! No sir they are not!

[@caryg4638]

When you remove vanity, simplicity of living becomes more attractive.

[@premakey1016]

Experience is a great teacher - one must, however, be open to travel outside of one's comfort zones, (both within and outside of the boundries of our own communities/nations) in order to be truly educated. When combined with an open and willing mind, experience becomes the great teacher. Love Harvey Kitel's words, because experience can actually lead to Wisdom. Politicians are a reflection of this level of ignorance due to lack of experience. In it's place sits desire for power. In 2006 (not sure about current numbers) only 15% of US Citizens had a Passport. Being poorly educated in life experience leads to misplaced anger and critizism rather than curiousity, empathy, compassion and willingness to listen, share, introspect, reflect and change. Seeking and following the Truth, without compromise, then becomes the great life-long journey in which experience itself blossoms into Wisdom.

[@robertsandgren9389]

Great interview of a great actor. I ended up here after viewing videos of one of his finer films, the duellists. He should have had more leads but he did great with the roles he had.

[@williamdelong8265]

Most compelling actor.

[@vz4779]

Yes, I can relate to what he is saying.

[@MichaelMarko]

Fiction, theater, acting teaches empathy., awe and humility. I figure this is partly what he's getting at.

[@daniadejonghe4980]

what a pleasure to listen to such and honest, articulate and intelligent man.

[@DaboooogA]

Great channel thanks

[@sandrafuller3850]

Harvey Keitel is so wise and impressive. He is one of a kind in the most wonderful way.

[@MarkRobson99]

What an amazing guy. I did a couple of short acting courses. They were like an actual degree in 'psychology' - psychology in the latin derivation meaning, not the synthetic perversion of today. Kind of what he mentions

[@seebarry4068]

Education never made anybody more intelligent, but it never hurt anybody either.

[@stimpeee]

O my god I love that man! "What is relevant? What is really relevant in your experience as a human being?"

[@spikeep6141]

Hearing him expound at length on this at length is genuinely amazing, because that’s just *exactly* the way in which Scorsese has him play *Judas Iscariot,* as a Fulltime, 24/7, 365 grassrooots-radical Freedom Fighter /Domestic-Terrorist, operating on the local, grassroots-Level -

[@VinchenzoC]

It's not where you learn, it's what you learn.

[@BeardVsTheWorldUK1]

Amazing stuff. Bravo Harvey.

[@manyogurt4645]

BRAVO Harvey!

[@EyeLean5280]

You don't have to go to college to be well read. Being well read is the foundation of a good education, so I respect that. I know a lot of people with degrees who stopped reading when they graduated. This is much less admirable than someone who hadn't been to college but reads widely. And yes, experience in the real world is so important. And yes, the structures of society are everyone's responsibility - they shouldn't be left to the upper classes to do what they want.

[@user-yq8ck8yf3u]

True I find my curiosity has me exploring New to you You Tube, but my reading time is much reduced so I am not exposed as much to the art of imagination represented in stories which require an in depth personnel understanding of human nature by the Author.

[@bomaniigloo]

Wish people would have heeded this during the coof.

[@jeffbaker123]

Some of the least “intelligent” people I’ve met are PhDs. Half of the smartest people I’ve met are working class, not middle class. It really upsets me how Americans are obsessed with a college degree as a mark of accomplishment. I dropped out and felt like a failure. I went back to school and got a masters. But the biggest education in my life came from life. In fact I sometimes think I would be smarter if I never went to school. Travel, work, having children, having a sense of wonder, thinking for myself, and imagination… these are the best educators. And they come free

[@EannaButler]

This was great 👍

[@iainmackenzieUK]

inspiring - relating our art to our commitment, values and journey

[@NicoleAC-PhD]

Always loved Harvey K. Love and admire him even more now!. Enlightenment is a hell of a thing!

[@everygrainofsand]

"If politics is the business of the people. Then theatre must be the soul of the people." Damn, he's good👌A beautiful human being, who I'd love to sit down to dinner with. Keitel's the very definition of a class act.

[@cocobololocoloco]

EXCELLENT. Body as instrument.

[@BodyTrust]

Yes. Theater and all art is therapeutic. But Theater is also a "work" situation. When workers collaborate, they naturally unite.

[@NicoleAC-PhD]

I've always thought this way. In my studies, I have always respected everyone formerly educated or not and still finds their way to be successful. Experience, is the best teacher in my humble opinion.. Its a beautiful thing to accept folks as they are, its also easier to accept one's self.. enlightenment is a beautiful thing, im so grateful for..

[@Krightowl]

Definitely the kind of person I want to have a conversation with.

[@eamonnmurphy5385]

Winston Churchill wanted to be on the beach on D-day. Napolean was noted for doing this too, when called for. There is something honorable in risking your own life at the front of your armies.

[@williamrussell174]

Provided that you have a noble cause to fight for.

[@eamonnmurphy5385]

@@williamrussell174 hmmm who decides what's Noble and what's not.

[@exclamationpointman3852]

MAN I AM SO GLAD HE STOPPED ROSE FROM STOPPING HIM!!!!! WHEN PEOPLE HAVE A FIRE IN THEIR SOUL AND IT IS RIGHTEOUS: LET THEM SPEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@kimsherlock8969]

Very poinsettias especially for now . A great compassionate minded human being I have much respect H Keitel.🎉

[@atmadsen]

I worked in an office of high-powered academics. Some were kind, some were not. Some were useful. Some were not. The defining factor of less-than-savory behavior centered around the combination of classism and privilege. The resulting entitlement was so intimidating that many at the top got away with offences that we peons couldn't fathom.

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

Art is for two reasons: art is for art sake and art is for the working people to forget, for just a while, their interminable struggles.

[@olusha]

Body & Mind gotta be balanced. Body=arts (feeling), Mind=education (thinking).

[@MotoGreciaMarios]

And now I understand why he was so good at playing Feraud in The Duellists. The antithesis he is describing was there too although in the film there were other aspects and factors involved too, in the interactions between the characters.

[@michaelelliott3209]

I knew a woman in the HR department where I worked who was known to say, "I have to remember who I'm talking to so I can talk down to their level."

[@victoryover1156]

Regrets, I've had a few. "Who was that " Lol

[@chipper442]

I couldn’t agree more. I’m a “learn by doing” type, I don’t mind having information to refer to, but always learned quicker by doing something rather than reading about it.

[@bravo2zeroCAN]

The finest tang of steel may have potential, but it will never be a razor sharp blade unless it is worked & crafted into one by a worthy craftsman.

[@cultureofmen]

Education is based off of experience. The people who went out without education to explore uncharted territories have brought back knowledge which was preserved in books which the “educated” have studied.

[@ZeeYaHbonanza777]

“…Gratitude is not only the greatest of all Virtues ; yet also the parent/steward of all the other virtues…” #AncientProverb

[@user-gk5wo4ns1d]

I ran into Keitel randomly in Tribeca in the 1970s when no one lived down there. Wasn't a fan but what a snappy lookin' guy.

[@maryhoneycane3617]

Such a wise and talented man ❤❤❤

[@Talsedoom]

educated and smart are different things. There is alot well educated fools who don't have a clue what to do with their knowledge.

[@bobxyzp]

He says that experience could be a better metric for social governance than education, but a true education draws on the experience of thousands of years and countless people. The problem is that most formal educations don’t give us that experience, because those in power don’t want us to be well rounded and independent. They want us to be cogs in a machine, compliant and useful, able to memorize selected facts and solve limited problems without seeing the big picture. If you want a real education, you have to educate yourself, but it definitely takes more than just personal experience.

[@danielmiller4661]

Words of wisdom

[@cristofjulun1265]

Harvey Keitel speaking to Charlie Rose as a Rich Actor, a job and position that owes itself a lot to luck and happenstance. If this is a justification for being uneducated, to me, it falls short.

[@youknowkbbaby]

Exactly.

[@DJCJ999]

To experience the unexplainable and be better for it.