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Nikola Jokić became the first player ever to average at least 34 points, 10 rebounds and 10 assists during the second round in the playoffs. His combined points, rebounds and assists per game during the series was also the second-most in history, just behind Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe debate whether Jokić is now the best player in the NBA or not.
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Has Nikola Jokić proven to be the league's best player after 34-10-10 average? | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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@UndisputedOnFS1
@UndisputedOnFS1 11 ай бұрын
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@infiniti37G
@infiniti37G 11 ай бұрын
Does anybody play DEFENSE on that clown and in the NBA. Everybody got easy wide open shots because of the 3 point shooters sitting on the 3 line all the time
@infiniti37G
@infiniti37G 11 ай бұрын
Jordan would score 50 easily today. He would make Lebron and rest look like a kid
@sportsguy25
@sportsguy25 11 ай бұрын
Where’s the link for club shay shay? 🤔
@someguy2972
@someguy2972 11 ай бұрын
"I will go to my grave saying this"...For god's sake this is sports, don't act like this is more than entertainment...
@mihir702
@mihir702 11 ай бұрын
Skip still arguing Embiid over Jokic is a truly hilarious holdout
@ajblac4774
@ajblac4774 11 ай бұрын
Facts I’m taking luka over embiid
@readmycomment3707
@readmycomment3707 11 ай бұрын
F Skip Payless
@anti-liberal7167
@anti-liberal7167 11 ай бұрын
Skip only argues Embid because a white man saying Joker is the best would trigger the wokies and call Skip racist
@MooneyMan98
@MooneyMan98 11 ай бұрын
he's committed to the bit
@anthonyslazas6413
@anthonyslazas6413 11 ай бұрын
Skip Clueless
@jacobharding3638
@jacobharding3638 11 ай бұрын
Embiid got his Make-a-Wish MVP for the regular season, but at this point I legitimately don't know how you could argue Embiid over Jokic anymore considering what we've seen this playoffs, and even playoffs previous.
@bherbo3943
@bherbo3943 11 ай бұрын
make a wish mvp got my dying
@user-rr3fo6hy9q
@user-rr3fo6hy9q 11 ай бұрын
Nobody cares about context anymore. So what would Jokic have done with that same Sixers roster? How about put Embiid on the Nuggets. Hmmm. The Sixers roster compared to the Nuggets roster is like night and day.
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 11 ай бұрын
@@user-rr3fo6hy9q Nobody cares about your comment.
@chancellor3122
@chancellor3122 11 ай бұрын
You put Jokić on Philly and they make conference finals.
@gnielsen07
@gnielsen07 11 ай бұрын
@@user-rr3fo6hy9q yeah cause Murray, MPJ, Gordon & KCP is soooo overpowered and unfair
@chucky6896
@chucky6896 11 ай бұрын
Anybody that ever said Embiid better than Jokic gotta get checked out cause we’re seeing with our own eyes who the best big man is right now 🤷🏾‍♂️
@raymondthomas1574
@raymondthomas1574 11 ай бұрын
He is put up 47 on him
@darnellwilliams8783
@darnellwilliams8783 11 ай бұрын
@chucky6896 listen here jokic is so overrated and and slow up and down the court Anthony Davis is the Jokic Stopper
@Sluggz416
@Sluggz416 11 ай бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 😂😂😂 AD too lightweight for Joker
@j.b.macdirty6202
@j.b.macdirty6202 11 ай бұрын
Embiid is better 🤡
@Solo251Balloon
@Solo251Balloon 11 ай бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 you don’t know ball, sit this one out lil bro
@yungjoka5962
@yungjoka5962 11 ай бұрын
“I think the media loves jokic” is one of the biggest bold face lies I’ve ever seen on TV lmao
@TheDifferenced
@TheDifferenced 11 ай бұрын
People like Skip needs to be erased, cleansed from existence! Facts & logic > opinions Even if Jokic wins Finals MVP, Skip will definitely still pick Embiid despite being out of the playoffs and NEVER entered the Finals.
@Mercurial.
@Mercurial. 11 ай бұрын
Stephen Naismith just bec ur relative is James who invented basketball doesn't mean u are updated on BASKETBALL! On ESPN and especially NBA on TNT they LOVE JOKIC since years back, they always picks up and says: "he's the best just awesome" so u obviously not watching the studios and interviews how reporters laughs and have a joy with Jokic. Don't write and lie about things u have no clue bec u are a CASUAL 🤦🏾‍♂️
@koljap7642
@koljap7642 11 ай бұрын
Interestingly, he mentioned the only guys who actually know basketball, Shaq, Kenny and Chuck with Erneh as well, compared to bunch of nobodies of ESPN, Fox and whoever else
@yungjoka5962
@yungjoka5962 11 ай бұрын
@@koljap7642 yeah well those dudes appreciate and respect joker because like you said they know basketball
@druzo26
@druzo26 11 ай бұрын
Skip dying on that Joel Embiid hill!!🤦🏽‍♂️
@maddawg9636
@maddawg9636 11 ай бұрын
He never backs down from his bad takes, no matter how many times he gets proven wrong haha
@J.Edwards
@J.Edwards 11 ай бұрын
Skip would still think Tim Tebow could have a career as a qb if he returned
@ultimategamer8330
@ultimategamer8330 11 ай бұрын
His dead already
@libalah
@libalah 11 ай бұрын
*Nuggets win the Finals finish with an 82-0 record with Jokic averaging 63 27 and 17* Skip: “What happened January 28 2023 embiid 47 points Jokic 24”
@StFigarlandGarling
@StFigarlandGarling 11 ай бұрын
*Jokic goes 82-0 and 16-0 in the playoffs while averaging 30-30-30 and wins the finals MVP, MVP, DPOY, and has the most winshares in nba history* Skip: “But in 2019 vs the Trail Blazers Jokic became Jokeic”.
@BlinkRed_
@BlinkRed_ 11 ай бұрын
Joker is simply a all time great center. He is the most consistent player in the NBA. Wouldve been great in any era
@darnellwilliams8783
@darnellwilliams8783 11 ай бұрын
@blinkred4170 jokic ain't a all time nothing to be a all time great you have to win and he couskbt play in the 90s Anthony Davis is a all time great and the Jokic Stopper
@maddawg9636
@maddawg9636 11 ай бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 Who says Jokic wouldn't be able to play in the 90s?
@Foxthegoat
@Foxthegoat 11 ай бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 jokic destroys ad all the time
@darnellwilliams8783
@darnellwilliams8783 11 ай бұрын
@@maddawg9636 a not of people jokic coukdbt take that physicality he wont get away with traveling and stat padding
@darnellwilliams8783
@darnellwilliams8783 11 ай бұрын
@@Foxthegoat that's a lie I remember AD owning Jokic in the 2020 WCF
@chrilpy
@chrilpy 11 ай бұрын
Embiid is a playoff sinker, Jokic is a playoff riser. Jokic is the most consistent offensive player in the league and you can expect him to be available. His defense is nowhere near Embiid’s but it has been good enough so far
@argc
@argc 11 ай бұрын
Embiid's defense is not good enough and Jokic's defense is not bad enough to where their defense isn't really that far off from each other. Embiid gets cooked in the playoffs by faster players anyways. JT absolutely cooked Embiid while Jokic didn't let Booker and KD do that to him. Embiid is the better shot blocker and that's like the only edge he has on Jokic defensively but in the playoffs where guys just draw you out to the perimeter, Embiid's shot blocking ability gets neutralized and he becomes just as useless as Jokic on the perimeter. So come playoff time, Jokic's offense is way better than Embiid's offense, and Embiid becomes just as useless as Jokic on defense. So it's Jokic by a landslide
@DR-qd7go
@DR-qd7go 11 ай бұрын
@@argc jokic is a fraud. Dude got bounced out by Enes Freedom LOL
@nugglife3035
@nugglife3035 11 ай бұрын
​@@DR-qd7goare you serious bro? You must be joking
@DR-qd7go
@DR-qd7go 11 ай бұрын
@@nugglife3035 dude got bounced by Enes Freedom, Mo Harkless, ad Farouq Aminu as a 2 seed 😂😂😂
@md.221
@md.221 11 ай бұрын
@@DR-qd7go was that not 5 years ago? also even tho he played only 4 games did dame die? did cj not average 26 in that series?
@leonmclean9337
@leonmclean9337 11 ай бұрын
Skip never ever allows new information to enter his brain. If he believed something 5 years ago, then it's the same today, regardless of what has happened. If Jokic wins the chip and averages 50-15-15, Skip would say the championship doesn't count, because Lebron is 40, and Tatum didn't perform etc etc etc. "Does Jokic block shots". Okay Skip. Sure. That makes Embiid better than Jokic.
@MrExcessum
@MrExcessum 11 ай бұрын
Jokic doesnt block shots, but he is the best deflector in the league, and always among the top in steals... Skip is just a senile ol' hater. Edit: Jokic is not a world class blocker, but a 7 footer with a larg wingspan, he is capable.of blocking shots, he just doesnt have the verticality to do it in large volume. He does have a record 3 or 4 game winning blocks-season if I recall right.
@sdtrezvant
@sdtrezvant 11 ай бұрын
@@MrExcessum fax Jokic know he not athletic to protect the rim so he has have his hands active at all times
@ntnnot
@ntnnot 11 ай бұрын
💯
@anthonycelestin3559
@anthonycelestin3559 11 ай бұрын
Skip is a senile old man stuck with his ways
@theamigo635
@theamigo635 11 ай бұрын
Skip thrives on being the "Village Idiot."
@Playboyy1985
@Playboyy1985 11 ай бұрын
Embiid really about to be a 30 year old mvp without a conference finals appearance 🤦🏽
@jvjjjvvv9157
@jvjjjvvv9157 11 ай бұрын
To be fair, he's been coached by Doc Rivers. 11 years without a CF and counting. I mean, if Doc couldn't make it with Paul, Griffin and Jordan, it's hard to make it with Embiid and Harden or whatever
@doublez_
@doublez_ 11 ай бұрын
@@jvjjjvvv9157 we don’t make excuses like that for MVP’s.
@vanhattfield8292
@vanhattfield8292 11 ай бұрын
I tyhink Jokic was the clear MVP, but in saying that, there are separate MVP's for the regular season and the playoffs for a reason so how he plays in the post season doesn't have anything to do with the regular season MVP.
@Playboyy1985
@Playboyy1985 11 ай бұрын
@@vanhattfield8292 yea I agree. But he gotta be the only mvp in nba history to not have a conference finals appearance.
@Mercurial.
@Mercurial. 11 ай бұрын
And CP3 had 1 Conference Finals until he was 33 🤷🏾‍♂️
@MrFreakazoid23
@MrFreakazoid23 11 ай бұрын
It’s between Giannis or Joker. Similar accolades but Giannis has that FMVP with one of the most historic finals games in NBA history. I’m not putting Embiid anywhere near them until he AT LEAST makes a ECF.
@aidanmurphy8286
@aidanmurphy8286 11 ай бұрын
Giannis isn’t in the conversation anymore
@chrisrobinson8339
@chrisrobinson8339 11 ай бұрын
@@aidanmurphy8286 Giannis has a ring tho.
@jayh4709
@jayh4709 11 ай бұрын
Giannis LMFAOOOOO you don't know basketball if you think he's the best player man is a liability on Offense and is a brick machine that has no bag and gets exposed time and time again in the playoffs and he has not been or ever been a real DPOY he gets carried by being a help defender with Brook lopez cleaning up mistakes in the inside. Jokic >>>>>>>>>>> Giannis any day. Giannis is a bum and got smoked by an 8th seed
@jayh4709
@jayh4709 11 ай бұрын
@@mjisgoated Facts
@AliFrankTheTank
@AliFrankTheTank 11 ай бұрын
@mj is goat facts he was in the hospital vs hawks and won that mf 😭😭😭😭
@saoud1014
@saoud1014 11 ай бұрын
Didn’t see this yet but let me guess what Skip will say “Embiid’s knee is injured, my guy told me so. I trust him” “Jokic can’t defend, these are some stats” “Remember when Embiid dropped 40+ on him??” “Who’s the MVP and why was he the mvp?” I hate these disingenuous narratives, give his man his due already. Skip is just horribly biased and at times .. I just straight up thinks he hates all European players that aren’t Tony Parker lol
@kb4231
@kb4231 11 ай бұрын
🎯
@bjrnthebootybandit
@bjrnthebootybandit 11 ай бұрын
I can't remember Embiid having a successful post season
@readmycomment3707
@readmycomment3707 11 ай бұрын
Skip is woke and Shannon is Afrocentrist. Both of them will back the Black player 100% of the time over the Euro one.
@MF-pk2gf
@MF-pk2gf 11 ай бұрын
@@readmycomment3707 Except Shannon is backing Jokic and Skip is a diehard Tom Brady fan so there goes your point.
@RobertJohnson-tg8zr
@RobertJohnson-tg8zr 11 ай бұрын
@@readmycomment3707 yea this take is horrendous
@zanekreklewetz3381
@zanekreklewetz3381 11 ай бұрын
Lol that 47 points against Jokic in January or whenever is going to be skip’s new “Ben Simmons scored 42 points against Gobert”
@REAlMIDOFFICIAL
@REAlMIDOFFICIAL 11 ай бұрын
He don't need to be the best player. But he damn sure should have got the MVP over Joel embiid.
@user-rr3fo6hy9q
@user-rr3fo6hy9q 11 ай бұрын
I think Giannis should have gotten MVP. They ended the season with the top record in the league and his stats were great. I know they got bounced in the 1st round but Giannis got injured and it's a regular season award not a Playoff award. Which I think should be changed, wait to give the league MVP until the Conference Finals are over.
@YogiBear13
@YogiBear13 11 ай бұрын
He needs to be the best player in this series.
@chilldoc9638
@chilldoc9638 11 ай бұрын
@@YogiBear13 he already is, that's obvious to everyone
@Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan
@Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan 11 ай бұрын
The Jokic vs embiid debate shouldn’t be a debate at this point. But sixers fans clearly don’t care about the playoffs, they’ve been focused so much on a regular season award 😂
@gibanicarstolar2149
@gibanicarstolar2149 11 ай бұрын
Embiid got what he wanted, not suprised if he bails philly in the near future
@DynamicUnreal
@DynamicUnreal 11 ай бұрын
Jokic has been the best player in the NBA for the past 3 years now and should have been MVP this year for the third time in a row. The NBA media is the dumbest out of all major sports, it's utterly ridiculous.
@DynamicUnreal
@DynamicUnreal 11 ай бұрын
Did you know that Nikola Jokic is considered one of the greatest basketball players of all time? Based on career statistics like BPM, PER, and win shares per 48 minutes, he ranks at the top or near the top. While some people believe championships are the ultimate measure of greatness, it's important to remember that basketball is a team sport. Even the best player needs a strong team to win. So, when we watch Jokic play, we might be witnessing one of the very best players ever. Maybe even THE best ever.
@P_Sandhu
@P_Sandhu 11 ай бұрын
Nobody breaks down free throw shooting like Skippy Bayless 😂
@frz_-
@frz_- 11 ай бұрын
Mr 1.4💀💀
@wilsonjoshwilson
@wilsonjoshwilson 11 ай бұрын
He’s clearly better than Joel Embiid. That MVP Joel got us up their with Nash for the most fraudulent MVP award ever.
@raymondthomas1574
@raymondthomas1574 11 ай бұрын
Stop crying he won last year and he lost in the first round of the playoffs so what is your point
@AF-vk9zq
@AF-vk9zq 11 ай бұрын
The most fraudulent mvp was westbrook's. He was a pity mvp (ppl felt bad about kd leaving him), he was the 6 seed, and people dislike harden
@argc
@argc 11 ай бұрын
Nash deserved it way more than Embiid did stop it Most undeserving MVP of all time easy
@readmycomment3707
@readmycomment3707 11 ай бұрын
@@AF-vk9zq Nah Ill take prime westbrook over Embid. At least he was a great passer. Embid got exposed in playoffs big time, he cant score when hes not getting 20 FT a game.
@ivannbg6212
@ivannbg6212 11 ай бұрын
​​@@raymondthomas1574 Hahahahahahahahaha yes you are comparing 76ers with Embiid Harden Maxey Harris and Nuggets from last year with the lineup of Monte Morris, Fakundo Kampazo, Austin Rivers, Will Barton against the eventuall champions. Really comparable. 😆😂
@treejsoneg3673
@treejsoneg3673 11 ай бұрын
Jokic is by far the best in the league and has been. It’s just taken this long for everyone to realize
@mariobrass2713
@mariobrass2713 11 ай бұрын
He's the best what ??? Dude hasn't even made the finals. I hate the Lakers with my soul but I think they're going to win because Anthony Davis is going to destroy joker...
@jvjjjvvv9157
@jvjjjvvv9157 11 ай бұрын
Quite bold to say Jokic is the best player in the league. He's smart, skilled and consistent, but when the stakes are high there are several players whom you'd pick before him. As proven by the fact that even with his two, almost three mvps, he's never been even to the nba finals. Let's see what happens this year, but if he gets bounced by the Lakers again, I'm not sure you can put him even in the top three of players in the league.
@thanos8914
@thanos8914 11 ай бұрын
@@mariobrass2713 😂😂😂😂
@thanos8914
@thanos8914 11 ай бұрын
@@jvjjjvvv9157 😂😂😂😂
@alexchavez2067
@alexchavez2067 11 ай бұрын
​@@mariobrass2713 how you feeling after tonight?
@Klevergamer
@Klevergamer 11 ай бұрын
He always brings up the 47 points against Joker, but also ALWAYS forgets that Joel ducked Joker in Denver, as he does almost every year 😂
@eriecolon777
@eriecolon777 11 ай бұрын
The media can't just admit that Jokic is the best. Its ridiculous. There's nothing he can't do, and he does it when it counts also.
@dvdv8197
@dvdv8197 11 ай бұрын
Jokic really showing he deserved that third MVP in a row, maybe he'll change things up with a finals MVP this year. 🤷‍♀️ Embiid got the MVP but is also the one who failed miserably in round 2 AND threw his team under the bus in that post-Game 7 interview when HE was the one who underperformed! Really un-MVP-like behavior. Shame on him.
@protkeyt
@protkeyt 11 ай бұрын
Word!
@atraina6921
@atraina6921 11 ай бұрын
Don’t want to take anything away from Embiid but what Skip won’t tell you about his “52 point game” is that both Jalen Brown and Robert Williams ||| we’re out and Boston still only lost by 2. Phili went farther in this series than I thought but Bostons just the better team.
@nikolayjerev9285
@nikolayjerev9285 11 ай бұрын
And was a game without meaning. They all had their standings.
@miloscurcic8408
@miloscurcic8408 11 ай бұрын
You can see from the highlights that Embiid wasn't being guarded by Horford either.
@allurbancentralinterviews
@allurbancentralinterviews 11 ай бұрын
Jokic is the best player in the world 🌎
@josaiahramirez105
@josaiahramirez105 11 ай бұрын
Never been a jokic fan tbh but after watching him this post season I have to give it to him he’s the best player in the league
@SuperfanK
@SuperfanK 11 ай бұрын
Skip is grasping at straws now.
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 11 ай бұрын
From 2020-2022 Jokic had to carry his team to the playoffs without his 2nd and 3rd best teammates
@kemptonboy4400
@kemptonboy4400 11 ай бұрын
Before the playoffs, I thought Embiid was the best player on the planet. But Jokic has clearly surpassed him in the playoffs with his insane numbers. Jokic is the best player on the planet and it's not even close.
@rimimimimimimimim4170
@rimimimimimimimim4170 11 ай бұрын
I’ve thought Jokic is the best player in the league for 3 years, I think it’s never been close tbh. The closest Embiid got was really the 2021-22 season and that’s about it.
@nikolayjerev9285
@nikolayjerev9285 11 ай бұрын
Embiid is not close to Jokic.
@Loquacious_Jackson
@Loquacious_Jackson 11 ай бұрын
You're stupid if you ever thought Embiid could hold Joker's jockstrap 😂
@macmac6064
@macmac6064 11 ай бұрын
Free throw merchant mvpiid 🤭
@purplemonkeydishwasher4241
@purplemonkeydishwasher4241 11 ай бұрын
Embiid is not even close to being the best player on the planet. MVP or no MVP, he doesn't deserve to be in the discussion.
@chinsters7644
@chinsters7644 11 ай бұрын
Way better than anyone in the West. Great stats, not a crybaby, not a flopper. Denver will win the west. They are a solid team and not up and down like seeds 2-7 were.
@mhirang4199
@mhirang4199 11 ай бұрын
Embiid beat Jokic in that game and Jokic had a bad game right? 24/8/9 with 7 turnovers. That's a bad game for him? What would a 15/8 game on a game 7 of a playoff series be then? For the MVP, no less. Why hold Jokic to that singular data point to be under Embiid when Embiid isn't playing as valuable as he needs to be, and Jokic just does, especially in the postseason.
@thehippieboy6927
@thehippieboy6927 11 ай бұрын
"Your guy stay on the floor. I think he's breakdancing sometimes." 💀
@ShowTymeDollarS850
@ShowTymeDollarS850 11 ай бұрын
Embiid complained 2 an MVP.. Jokic could uh went 3 straight with his production
@js09js09
@js09js09 11 ай бұрын
Jokic deserved the MVP over Embiid. Go look at their win-shares on Basketball Reference. 14.9 for Jokic and 12.3 for Embiid. Going into the stretch run, most people were picking Jokic for MVP. That immediately changed once Kendrick Perkins started turning the MVP race into a racial issue (white vs. black). People then started pumping Embiid's tires because they didn't want anyone to look at them as racist, even though it was ridiculous.
@TheRealBigSak
@TheRealBigSak 11 ай бұрын
Lakers fan here but Jokic and Luka my favorite non Lakers and you could truly make the case he’s the best in the league right now… like Shannon said it’s between him and Giannis… Giannis is a wayyy better defender obviously but Joker makes everyone around him much better
@BigSaleGolem
@BigSaleGolem 11 ай бұрын
Is this about Jokic are Embiid, analysts have no shame.
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 11 ай бұрын
Skip not being able to accept he’s wrong is the funniest thing on TV. I’ve never seen so many excuses lol
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 11 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Embiid hasn’t played in Denver since November 2019
@fisher-samoyed9857
@fisher-samoyed9857 11 ай бұрын
You're annoying asf
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 11 ай бұрын
The media doesn’t love Jokic, Skip need to stop The 2 foreign players the media loves are Luka and Embiid. Their flaws and losses always get under criticized.
@chilldoc9638
@chilldoc9638 11 ай бұрын
Luka is so hated wdym?
@h7m156
@h7m156 11 ай бұрын
Best player in the league is a debate best center in the league not even a question it’s not close
@willjohnwick6911
@willjohnwick6911 11 ай бұрын
Your clearly a chokic dicc rider embiid is right there will him and was mvp cuz he had a better season than chokic🤡
@gtasdwagaw4605
@gtasdwagaw4605 11 ай бұрын
here he goes bringing back up a game from march while we're in the conference finals
@CSIGrissom
@CSIGrissom 11 ай бұрын
I never seen Jokic blame his teammates for losses…but “Twuss duh Pwocess” he’s done it more than just the Playoffs…I guess that’s what MVP’s do in 2023
@obynoomere1280
@obynoomere1280 11 ай бұрын
"Break Dancer." Unc is hilarious 😂😂😂😂
@biggestbullsfan8569
@biggestbullsfan8569 11 ай бұрын
Skip is wrong so often lol I don’t know how he is still so confident
@zein9227
@zein9227 11 ай бұрын
I think Giannis is the better offensive and defensive player by a very slight margin but Jokic is the best overall player. Giannis can't do what Jokic does. I have never seen a center who can pass like him and who shoots from perimeter and three point line so efficient on such a consistent basis. He should've won the MVP, not Embiid. Well, he might get the chip instead.
@Playboyy1985
@Playboyy1985 11 ай бұрын
Jokic is miles ahead offensively
@J.Edwards
@J.Edwards 11 ай бұрын
@@Playboyy1985miles ahead offensively, and light years away defensively
@zein9227
@zein9227 11 ай бұрын
@@Playboyy1985 Well, Jokic's efficiency is better and his shooting might be "miles ahead" but Giannis' athletic ability isn't to be trifled with. Nikola can't put the punishment on guys like Giannis can. LeBron has dominated Jokic on drives to the basket many times. But Jokic needn't to be physical. He is so much more skilled. I think he is the only center ever who could be put at the point and still impact the game as he does.
@BostonBori92
@BostonBori92 11 ай бұрын
​@Zein You do know Jokic controls the entire floor on when he's on offense lol he makes everyone play at his pace that's including the defense if he's in the post he's drawing doubles to open up shooters and cutters when he's on the perimeter he's running P&Rs getting himself and guys open for 3s nobody in the NBA has that effect on the game
@ranchosdelnorte
@ranchosdelnorte 11 ай бұрын
People want to hang everything on that game in Philly so desperately. No one wants to mention that Jokic was dealing with a knee injury, wrist injury, and still recovering from covid but at least he was man enough to show up and play. Embiid knows that all it takes is just one game where Jokic exposes him in Denver, and he loses any edge he has against Jokic in head to head matchups. So he keeps ducking games in Denver to avoid this possibility, only playing the matchup in Philly where things are more in his favor. And if he was avoiding Denver before, he sure isn't ever going to show up now, the whole arena will be calling him fraud MVP and deep down he'll know they're correct.
@londonrd
@londonrd 11 ай бұрын
Skip acts like Jokic is a bad defender. He isn't. He does a great job of changing shots. Blocks are the only defensive measurement
@nicholaskatsikas4904
@nicholaskatsikas4904 11 ай бұрын
Skip trying to make excuses for a guy who hasn’t made it out of the second round is hilarious
@nigelliang4239
@nigelliang4239 11 ай бұрын
Embiid never been to a conference final…how can he be the best player in the league?
@user-lt5dg1ix6u
@user-lt5dg1ix6u 11 ай бұрын
Skips still saying embiid over joker but you can tell the conviction isnt there the way it was a month ago 😂
@dmitriyobidin6049
@dmitriyobidin6049 11 ай бұрын
Being present and being a solid piece in your teams roster is a part of what makes you one f the best. If you are one of the best when it doesn't really matter - it raises more questions than answers.
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 11 ай бұрын
Anyone that said that Embiid is better than Jokic doesn’t know basketball
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 11 ай бұрын
Embiid deserved the MVP.
@AK-cp6br
@AK-cp6br 11 ай бұрын
@@penkima4923 you're trash, find a new hobby.
@CoachHunitt
@CoachHunitt 11 ай бұрын
Denver go sweep them boys
@raymondthomas1574
@raymondthomas1574 11 ай бұрын
Sike
@melanatedgod5337
@melanatedgod5337 11 ай бұрын
Boy stop.
@jordan442
@jordan442 11 ай бұрын
Fr
@trvspvrk
@trvspvrk 11 ай бұрын
anyone who knows basketball knew Jokic has been the best player in the world for 3 years now
@AliasMaxx
@AliasMaxx 11 ай бұрын
With 0 rings to show for it
@GoatedAtNFS
@GoatedAtNFS 11 ай бұрын
@@AliasMaxx not his fault he doesn’t have a legit support system help like Draymond Green does. last 2 years not everyone was healthy either. Murray Jokic Porter Jr Gordon and KCP is the best starting five when 100%
@xdangelovidz
@xdangelovidz 11 ай бұрын
@@GoatedAtNFSppl swear one person all it needs to win a ring with comments like that. It takes a team to win a game
@hung2583
@hung2583 11 ай бұрын
@@AliasMaxx rings erneh
@chrilpy
@chrilpy 11 ай бұрын
Giannis was the best in 2021. Last season, him, Curry, and Jokic have good cases for being the best. This season is undoubtably Jokic
@ntnnot
@ntnnot 11 ай бұрын
Playoffs, Skip... Intensity of the play goes up a notch
@deljs6
@deljs6 11 ай бұрын
Shannon.... That little calf strain and he didn't even miss 5 games lol Jokic plays non stop. He just does
@Nularius79
@Nularius79 11 ай бұрын
No argument here. He's a role model for the next generation, and for me, is the point that matters. The dude doesn't even care about accolades. He just wants to win, help his team, and do his job. Goes home, rides his horse. With all the noise happening in the world right now, this guy, IN THE N-B-A, remains stoic. When other players drown in social media, ego, greed, and money.
@2FadeMusic
@2FadeMusic 11 ай бұрын
truu
@_andresss07
@_andresss07 11 ай бұрын
Not skip hating on the joker 💀 this man truly hates greatness..
@30dynamo
@30dynamo 11 ай бұрын
I love how Shannon be taking and taking and taking ish from Skip and then he just snaps lmaooo
@njones0716
@njones0716 11 ай бұрын
Skip Bayless is the same man who refuses to give Patrick mahomes, Stephen Curry and Damian Leonard their respect! Enough said
@chadzilla155
@chadzilla155 11 ай бұрын
Embiid blames his teammates. Skip is a fool.
@DanielRivera-mj3ws
@DanielRivera-mj3ws 11 ай бұрын
Where is joel? I can't find him in the conference finals. When you need him most, he is always injured or under performing. They gave him the MVP. But in the playoff his team won games without him. The joker is having the last laugh.
@DanielRivera-mj3ws
@DanielRivera-mj3ws 11 ай бұрын
And who has the best team?
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 11 ай бұрын
Skip always brings up that 52 pt game but doesn’t mention Jaylen Brown or Williams didn’t play 😭
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 11 ай бұрын
The man is averaging 25+ppg 10+rbpg 10+apg and only taking 15 shots
@phil6057
@phil6057 11 ай бұрын
Embiid is just 7 foot James Harden. They look great during the regular season, but when their flopping doesn’t get called in the playoffs they shrink.
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 11 ай бұрын
That's what you people repeat, but that doesn't happen on the court.
@undercoverbroham4078
@undercoverbroham4078 11 ай бұрын
Winning MVP does not mean you are the best player in the league. I do believe Embid was hurt, but he wasn't injured enough not to play and when you out there don't nobody care. Joker putting numbers and showing up and showing out this post season. Its hard to say he isn't the best player right now.
@macmac6064
@macmac6064 11 ай бұрын
Idk man he got injured when he ducked the nuggets and can still reach celtics game7
@undercoverbroham4078
@undercoverbroham4078 11 ай бұрын
@@macmac6064 he was hurt not injured and Harden showed up early in the series. So unfortunate cause they had an opportunity this year.
@applebitefool
@applebitefool 11 ай бұрын
Ultimately, Jokic is the best because his IQ is way higher than any other big
@Tibbs81188
@Tibbs81188 11 ай бұрын
Ever notice how if skip like the player he will make every excuse. If he hates the player, no excuses. 😂
@kurtismerriweather9437
@kurtismerriweather9437 11 ай бұрын
Yep lol
@CNTRI715
@CNTRI715 11 ай бұрын
Skip has stepped into full on delusional territory still trying to debate Embiid > Jokic
@goku..7
@goku..7 11 ай бұрын
Embiid the fake mvp 😂
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 11 ай бұрын
How so?
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 11 ай бұрын
Skip didn’t say one positive thing about Jokic as a player in this entire segment
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 11 ай бұрын
Maybe they want the show to be a debate.
@Ben-yr6ul
@Ben-yr6ul 11 ай бұрын
Even Shaq already said that Jokic is the best center in the NBA, why is Skiuuupp still picking Embiid > Jokic?
@reall1k445
@reall1k445 11 ай бұрын
Gianni’s collapsed kd collapsed I would have to say jokic is the best right now
@kenny_b0418
@kenny_b0418 11 ай бұрын
giannis was literally injured and came back and scored 38-20 on 50% from the field, jimmy butler just had a historic game, jrue couldn’t guard him
@Rivs5117
@Rivs5117 11 ай бұрын
Giannis didn’t collapse. He got injured came back and still showed out.
@reall1k445
@reall1k445 11 ай бұрын
@@Rivs5117 how tf did he show out wen he scored 26 off of 22 shot attempts in game 4 and missed 14 free throws in game 5 n cost his team the game cuz of his lack of shooting
@dezzyschannel3078
@dezzyschannel3078 11 ай бұрын
Skip really hates the euros
@uberneanderthal
@uberneanderthal 11 ай бұрын
"muh blocked shots" "muh one regular season game from months ago" grasping and gasping
@aleksarsumovic9587
@aleksarsumovic9587 11 ай бұрын
Skip saying "Because he was in the East..." and then subtile smile... He knew what he was doing and it is fun to watch grown man playing like younglings... Realy friendly discussion and fun to watch... I often don't agree with them, but compared to others, I can only watch inside NBA beside these two... Keep up the good work and 4:1 for Denver... 🥇
@iamthasecond
@iamthasecond 11 ай бұрын
Clearly Jokic isn't the better individual defender than Embiid. Also clearly, Jokic plays good enough defense to the point that his Nuggets are the 5th best defense in the postseason with him playing between 36-42 minutes a game. The defense argument is poor because good defense is largely based on coaching schemes. The Nuggets' effective defensive rotation wins them games. Great individual contributions aren't as necessary for them. Jokic plays the Nuggets rotational style of defense very effectively, so much so that he was the top center in steals in the regular season, and top 10 in deflections. The 76ers scheme allowed Joel to come weak side and get incredible blocks once his teammate's man beat him. They're different styles. Ultimately, Jokic is incredibly better on offense than Embiid, so again, Jokic is better than Embiid.
@russellchung3119
@russellchung3119 11 ай бұрын
Their defense better work well. Malone had to build their whole defensive scheme around Jokic. But yes, ur 100% right. It's good to know that people aren't buying Skip's BS take (s).
@jeffreyraz
@jeffreyraz 11 ай бұрын
Okay Bayless Jokic had a bad game against Embid in January so what ?!?! That doesn't mean anything, and I'm guessing no research done, especially since you didn't mention other games Nuggets vs 76ers that in those other games Jokic had a much better game against Embid
@maccoy8862
@maccoy8862 11 ай бұрын
Skip: I have never seen a 7 footer shoot 86% from the line before. Me: Does this man know who Dirk Nowitzki is?
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 11 ай бұрын
Skip is so unsure of himself, he has to call Embiid 7'2", now.
@BigJenks412
@BigJenks412 11 ай бұрын
Trust me, i used to be a Jokic skeptic..but Embid over Jokic is truly ridiculous lol
@fancyk7434
@fancyk7434 11 ай бұрын
Skip gonna use Embiid stats vs jokic this season for the next 5 years to justify why he’s better. It’s like what he’s done with the ben Simmons game vs Utah/Gobert to justify why Simmons is “good”
@Tanmuh
@Tanmuh 11 ай бұрын
Embiid did 1000000% not deserve the MVP and I will say that til I die
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 11 ай бұрын
Loool it’s funny because Skip would never let anyone call someone the best player in the world after scoring 15 points in a game 7 loss no matter the circumstance
@bigc22890
@bigc22890 11 ай бұрын
MVP and best player in the league are two different things
@burneraccount1592
@burneraccount1592 11 ай бұрын
Idk but he’s definitely better than the fake mvp
@JuryDuty1000
@JuryDuty1000 11 ай бұрын
You married maam ?
@1JAM229
@1JAM229 11 ай бұрын
9:53 Exactly! Thank you, Shannon! All of those Free Throws and extra points Embiid gets are invalidated.
@jsixers2154
@jsixers2154 11 ай бұрын
34 10 and 10 in the playoffs is wild
@laurentpecriaux1345
@laurentpecriaux1345 11 ай бұрын
"And your guy still on the floor, I think he break dancing sometimes" XDDDD
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 11 ай бұрын
Skip will bring up that game in January in Philly with Embiid vs Jokic, but won’t mention Embiid has been dodging Jokic in Denver in 2019
@GoatedAtNFS
@GoatedAtNFS 11 ай бұрын
he’s been the league’s best player. not Giannis. Giannis is 2nd, LeBron is 3rd, Embiid is 4th.
@argc
@argc 11 ай бұрын
lebron at this stage is barely top 15
@argc
@argc 11 ай бұрын
and so many guys are better than embiid luka steph tatum butler harden durant davis dame list goes on and on
@argc
@argc 11 ай бұрын
forgot to mention curry
@youngdb9446
@youngdb9446 11 ай бұрын
Embiid ain’t over Steph
@melanatedgod5337
@melanatedgod5337 11 ай бұрын
Embiid ain't over Luka or Curry.
@djkido316
@djkido316 11 ай бұрын
Skip bayless arguing for Embiid when he flatout melted down every second round for last 4 years lol.
@ronaldogilley4274
@ronaldogilley4274 11 ай бұрын
“The clock says we gotta go.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m done with Skip😂
@dmaze89
@dmaze89 11 ай бұрын
Denver in 5
@raymondthomas1574
@raymondthomas1574 11 ай бұрын
Lakers 6
@Supersmashmike101
@Supersmashmike101 11 ай бұрын
I would hope so 😂😂skip tripping
@bornaseki4195
@bornaseki4195 11 ай бұрын
How can you say Embiid is the best player when he even didnt dominate in a playoff series against Brooklyn before he got hurt.
@WrestlingIsReal649
@WrestlingIsReal649 11 ай бұрын
He literally is the best embiid not on his level 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️
@J.Edwards
@J.Edwards 11 ай бұрын
Giannis is still the best player in the league, one of the few elite two way players at the moment
@maddawg9636
@maddawg9636 11 ай бұрын
You wouldn't be wrong, its a hard debate between him and Jokic, because with Jokic you get an offensive monster and the best playmaker in the league in one package. Giannis has that defense on him, but to be fair Jokic improved in that department a lot
@dylangraf7626
@dylangraf7626 11 ай бұрын
Producers - ‘ skip we’re going to need you to make completely ridiculous arguments on the show today… ya know same old same old.’ Skip- ‘copy’
@12054life
@12054life 11 ай бұрын
I have no problem with Embiid, but I still dont see how he was picked as MVP over Jokic. I know its a regular season award, but Jokic has been more consistent than Embiid
@MrFrankcap
@MrFrankcap 11 ай бұрын
Racism was brought by Perkins for no reason and the rest is history.
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 11 ай бұрын
Embiid has been a top-3 MVP-candidate for three season. I don't see how he could be left without the award.
@sirisaacmormont5445
@sirisaacmormont5445 11 ай бұрын
Who cares about “your best basketball ever” if you’re not playing at that level when your team needs it the most?
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