Has Steph Curry earned a spot on the NBA’s Mount Rushmore now? | First Take

Has Steph Curry earned a spot on the NBA’s Mount Rushmore now? | First Take
Stephen A. Smith, Kendrick Perkins and Jay Williams debate whether Stephen Curry should now be on the NBA’s Mount Rushmore after earning his fourth championship ring and first Finals MVP with the Golden State Warriors.
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[@Tajeezy13]

Jay felt that acorn head dig lol

[@JS_C30]

Perkins definitely generally stupid with his analysis but his roasts are savage AF. I guess that's his role on ESPN hahaha

[@perryellis1423]

Stephen A wanted to laugh 🤣😂🤣

[@deucedvx]

Lol hilarious!

[@1muneymic]

Perk be getting off 😂😂😂

[@riddickflowe]

Perk was tryna son J Will this whole segment smh

[@MalKhalifaaa]

The Acorn head to Jay had Stephen A in shambles lmaooo

[@juansantana9068]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ayejay2519]

😂😂😂😂

[@igethighhighhigh]

😂😂

[@managed9348]

I’d be cacklin too

[@vvthetalentlessduo6976]

Lol

[@mattsell2361]

How come nobody ever mentions that magic and Kareem two guys commonly put in the top 5 played on the same team and no one ever goes oh they were so stacked their championships don’t mean as much

[@allenh3072]

Word like that’s what I’m saying

[@allenh3072]

James worthy too smh

[@javierlandaverde4108]

People forget Magic came to a winning culture from day 1 with Kareem. Curry got to a losing culture from day 1 having only Monta Ellis (not top 5 player in nba history). Magic has Kareem top 4 player of all time. Think about that. As much as it pains Lakers fans. Magic is a bit overhyped. Curry > Magic

[@nazs7317]

how old are you… kareem was in his late 30s and magic was young asf. Curry and durant played both together in their primes

[@javierlandaverde4108]

The fact that curry lead that losing organization of the warriors into a dynasty speaks higher then being drafted to an all time winning organization of Lakers that has a history of winning and always having superstars.

[@xanxao25]

Perk may not have the best arguments for putting Steph in his top 4. But JWill definitely screwed up when he asked about Bill Russell.

[@Madisonn608]

Yeah. But if perk thinks that that’s his opinion. ESPN put Oscar Robertson in top 10 over shaq so people have diff opinions. No disrespect to big O but he ain’t shaq

[@joshualee5282]

Jay lost that

[@haydenmack9626]

no he was proving that steph isn't even as good as the people outside the top 4 let alone in the top 4

[@Von.NorthEnd]

Yeah he was looking stupid with that

[@symbolic503]

so the guy they literally named finals mvp after is a losing argument? curry isnt even ahead of wilt let alone russel foh

[@stillalex2048]

"Turn your acorn head around" got me dead asf💀💀

[@kondwanimkandawire2680]

That was gold!!! Roflmao.

[@Tajeezy13]

Jay Williams terrible at debating 😂

[@michellebranch7972]

He can't even explain his own argument

[@LJChibueze]

Like why bring up Bill Russell lol smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@frankshouldice2490]

forreal w the Bill Russell thing all he had to say was he was tryna feel out perks list and who he had steph over and under. He was rattled from the acorn comment i think lmao

[@KayMattersOfficial]

@@LJChibueze It could be a reach but I think he was trying to link the fact that Bill Russell winning 11 chips and playing for the Celtics whilst Perk won 1 with the same team. Maybe tryna find out why he one Celtic ain't in Perk's Mt Rushmore but Jay couldn't articulate himself properly and got embarrassed 🤦🏾.

[@Tajeezy13]

@@frankshouldice2490 😂😂😂

[@kiingrasta]

Big Perk went in on JWill. An then had the nerve to mention Bill Russell and Bill Russell not even on his Mount Rushmore. Smh😂😂😂

[@xgurl10]

JWill got so defensive 🤣💀

[@christophershanklin112]

Lmao with his acorn head

[@calebmills985]

He tore him up 😂

[@davidgocray]

if curry goes for another title next year and get another fmvp i wonder what will they say

[@njabulomkhize1130]

Probably more of the same. People are usually uncomfortable with change. They don’t wanna have to change their pre existing beliefs even though they see what Steph is doing with their own eyes. I do agree with perk that you have to take into account the impact on the game that Steph has. I don’t think Mount Rushmore has to be all about ranking because significance and impact are notable too. Like you can’t even say that Lebron is the undisputed defining player of this generation. You got plenty of people, players and regular hoopers alike, trying to be like Curry in terms of shooting. What is this generation known for? Shooting a lot more threes right? Well guess who spear headed that movement: Steph Curry. The man even extended the defense to where they have to start guarding him from half court which is CRAZY when you think about it. Think about this. There are key components or fundamentals to the game: rebounding, defense, shooting, passing, finishing, dribbling, IQ, etc. No one is considered the undisputed greatest at any of those components except Steph Curry: the greatest shooter of all time. And shooting is one of the crucial components in terms of putting the ball in the hoop. That’s HUGE. That is saying something and should not be taken lightly. In addition to being the greatest shooter of all time, he has the hardware to back up his elite status. So no, it is not utterly ridiculous for Perk to have him of his Mt. Rushmore.

[@_Kdro]

Goat convo

[@vvthetalentlessduo6976]

O

[@jasonu3741]

If Curry does that hes passing Kobe, Shaq, Duncan on my list and will be #5 all time Jordan Lebron Kareem Magic Curry (if he gets 5 rings, 2 finals MvPs, 2 Regular season MvPs) Duncan Shaq Kobe Bird Hakeem Durrant (11) this is the modern era top 10 (1979-Current, creation of the 3pt shot, expansion of teams) Bill, Wilt, Cousey, petit, Mikan, Oscar etc etc are in my "golden Era top 10" because they played under such different rules, virtually no integration, no 3pt shot, 8 teams in the league..., rudementary offenses etc etc the game was too different to have them on lists with Jordan, Magic and Bron. and if Curry wins 6 championships, with 3 FMvPs, 2 Regular season MvPs... hes passing Lebron for #2 all time.

[@trentalexander-maguire7813]

Haters will keep moving the goalposts.

[@oaktownfish3665]

when i think of mt rushmore I dont think of the 4 "best" players ever I think of the 4 most important/significant/revolutionary players of all time, and Steph in my mind is definitely apart of that group. Think about the real mt rushmore, do they have the 4 "best" presidents ever? I dont think so but thats debatable. They have 4 of the most important presidents in history. People are looking at the credentials for mt rushmore thru the wrong scope

[@thelastanimebender2992]

This 100% right, I've been trying to say this, but will always say Mount Rushmore is for the top 4 best players.

[@kevinbattles2386]

Facts Jordan shaq ai curry they all had the game changed or rules changed because of them

[@kleatise52]

If it’s not about best players and about important, not having bill russell is a capitol offense.

[@oaktownfish3665]

@@kleatise52 that’s fair but then again it’s hard to fit 4 players on there when there’s so many worthy greats through the history of the nba , he’s definitely deserving

[@aesir1ases64]

they managed to put the worse presidents on that rock lol

[@KionneSensei]

He changed the game of basketball, league leader in 3 points made as an active player, on NBA all time scoring list, 4 NBA championships etc etc. He has always been top 10 in my eyes everyone now catching up. Steph is goated

[@andrewtodd9103]

He's not on Mt Rushmore though.

[@TRiXz_2K]

The argument isn’t about top 10 it’s about Mount Rushmore and idc how much he changed the game changing the game doesn’t mean you’re top 4

[@tatysiqueira8979]

He is literally a GOAT, people need to understand and accept his greatness

[@TRiXz_2K]

@@tatysiqueira8979 He’s not a GOAT 😂😂😂

[@robX931]

@@TRiXz_2K Curry is "a GOAT", he is one of the greatest of all times. Probably somewhere between 10-16 right now, and still has time to move up. He is just not Mt. Rushmore, yet.

[@BullyMaguire387]

Man Curry and Klay are so aggressive in the interview last night lmao

[@AliFrankTheTank]

MJs last dance got the personal thing goin

[@tatysiqueira8979]

the way people minimize what they do explains it

[@OhioGameTalks850]

If I was doubted the way that they were after being champions, I'd be too.

[@johnbrill880]

The Kobe and Duncan disrespect is crazy in here!!!

[@aesir1ases64]

as always ....

[@zanthonyhill8818]

Top 10s,yes. MT. Rushmore......NO.

[@Hala_Madrid_7911]

Jordan won 5 MVPs and 6 finals MVPs. LeBron won 4+4. Kareem 6+2. Magic 3+3. Kobe won 1+2 lol. He's a top 10 player but nowhere close to mt Rushmore.

[@jamarallen7266]

@@Hala_Madrid_7911 I think you should stick to what you love which is the BBC. Kobe is on Mount Rushmore easily 💯. Ask the player. Media psssh, waste of time. Always hating on 24.

[@Hala_Madrid_7911]

@@jamarallen7266 yes, Mr 1 MVP is "easily" a top 4 player ever lol.

[@JalenEx]

The NBA’s Mount Rushmore should have the players that have impacted the game the most and Steph belongs on that list IMO

[@WavyC]

I was just about to say it doesn’t have to be the 4 best players it’s really the 4 most influential players and steph has influenced a whole generation

[@Saltyahole]

That’s a good argument. And I agree with it. My position is that he’s on the all time starting 5. Over magic.

[@davidkim1105]

Honestly, yea. Steph might be one of or even THE most impactful player in the history of basketball.

[@NoName-cn3cp]

I think Rushmore should represent the greatest leaders. My point being you can want it to represent whatever you want.

[@Saltyahole]

@C can I ask how Bill Russell “changed the game?” Sure he was a very good player and won a lot of titles in a much different era, but how many kids were like “I wanna be like Bill Russell?”

[@MajorFactor]

*Lebron:* Lead the Cavs to their first NBA title in history. *Kawhi:* Lead Toronto to their first NBA title in history. *Steph:* Lead the Warriors to their first NBA title in 40 years. *KD:* *Giannis:* Lead Milwaukee to their first NBA title in 50 years.

[@jmard3101]

Bro why did I laugh hysterically at the KD part 🤣🤣🤣😂

[@Myersboii]

This is funny but don't act like Kawhi didn't luck out due to KD and Klay both getting injured. Even just Klay being healthy, the warriors would have beat that raptors team in 6.

[@ayyanbhatti7875]

@@Myersboii no they wouldn’t have lol. Raps in 6 or 7 even with klay healthy

[@vvthetalentlessduo6976]

L,ao

[@SMOOVHIM]

Love how kd is blank 😂

[@YahsCreation]

Acorn Head!!!!! Lmaooooooo 😂😂😂

[@lilfolkes]

Stephen A's reaction 😅😅😅😅

[@ChefFro]

Perk actually cooked Jay Will on this. 😂

[@Saltyahole]

I think “Mt. Rushmore” is an unfair thing. NBA is dictated by size for the most part and there are too many good centers as well as MJ. I do think he is in the all time starting 5 though, as the point guard.

[@fedeofeast3525]

over magic?

[@mikes_productions695]

@@fedeofeast3525 yes

[@jasonu3741]

a mount rushmore having Jordan, Lebron, Magic, Kareem

[@andrewtodd9103]

You just think it's unfair because Curry isn't on Rushmore.

[@tatysiqueira8979]

NBA is dictated by size and this only makes what Curry has achieved rarer and more impressive.

[@humzamohammad3075]

I dont understand.. But surely when a guy that small (since everyone bangs on about how tall/big powerful you have to be in the nba) who changed the game of basketball completely, like this man changed the way the game is played forever, when you do something that monumental, how can you not have him at 5 or 6? Like they kept holding on to the "he hasn't got a finals mvp" narrative, but he's got that now? So what more do you guys want I honestly don't get why Steph is continuously limited by these analysts

[@ryedye335]

50% of basketball is defense. that’s why

[@kb24theMVP]

@C Iverson was influential off the court. He's absolutely a great player, but he didn't change the way the game is played. No player has ever had the impact that Curry has on how the game of basketball is played, not just in the NBA.

[@BonesDMS4life]

@@ryedye335 he played good defense in the finals if u go back and watch every game

[@BJgrand]

Nobody is limiting him lmao. Before these finals most people had him as a top 15ish player ever. A lot of people had KD over him. Now he's a pretty clear top 10. We give him that and now y'all mad people don't have him on Mt. Rushmore. Y'all need to chill man lmfao.

[@BonesDMS4life]

@@kb24theMVP u high now MJ has the biggest impact in basketball history influence , they created rules for him defensively , his shoes , the only perfect finals record

[@norbert4571]

If Mount Rushmore is about who will be remembered to have impacted the game the most, Curry is on it.

[@dblock9300]

Thank goodness it's not

[@henry7765]

One more ring and Curry is passing Kobe

[@dblock9300]

@@henry7765 How would he possibly be passing Kobe with 1 more ring? Better check your math skills

[@henry7765]

@@dblock9300 curry won before KD and after . Kobe had ShaQ

[@dblock9300]

@@henry7765 And Shaq had Kobe. Curry had Green. Curry had Thompson. Curry had Wiggins. What's your point? Curry needs 2 more rings to pass Kobe's 5.

[@amrithbharadwaj4945]

Why do they keep putting Steph in conversations where he doesn't belong just so somebody has ammo to criticize him?

[@michellebranch7972]

And the funniest this is none of these people are even at Curry's level yet they think they have the right to judge him unworthy😆😆😆

[@Terror832]

Recency bias. They think basketball begun in 2015.

[@ninjedi6710]

because theyd run out of topics if they dont

[@Rainmanking]

Dude is one of the greatest ever but it’s crazy. Someone started the changed the game narrative just to give him extra credit. He gets praise for being the best shooter ever and more because everyone else shoots 3s too. Like he invented the 3 point shot

[@mehe387]

@raincheck for free For you assist is the most important for PG. But it is the scoring really, PPG. Oh you know hockey passes? 🤡

[@jayday545]

Mount Rushmore is for the people that changed the game or put it on the map. It is also one of the hardest things to really fill out without leaving off an ultimate great. MJ is basically the only guarantee. Everyone else there is an argument for and against.

[@tatysiqueira8979]

mastering one of the fundamentals of basketball and changing the game should be more relevant than collective achievements like rings

[@tombleencomedian1935]

Valid take. Jordan is the only one on lock.

[@robX931]

I believe MJ, Kareem and LeBron are locks. They all changed the game, as did Wilt. They literally changed rules and widened the lane because of him. Curry is not, and likely never will be as good of an overall basketball player as the absolute best of all time. Size matters in this game But top 10? I would slot around 15 myself. To be on Mt. Rushmore a player has to dominate both ends of the floor at the highest level during their prime, and size just matters in basketball.

[@jayday545]

@@robX931 what changed with Lebron? The creation of super teams?

[@jayday545]

@TWtv there were only 8 teams in the 60s, and still a low number in the 70 s, they were all super teams. I’m speaking of after the eighties when they mostly disappeared. And teams like the lakers and Spurs mostly drafted their players. Super teams by definition are bringing together a group of allstars in the prime of their career and mostly put together by the player as opposed to by a GM.

[@bryansaintlouis1258]

“Acorn head” perk a savage 😭😭😭💀

[@AJ_roadway]

He kilt him

MJ, LeBron and Kareem. Those 3 guys' resumee are unmatched. There is only.1 NBA Mt. Rushmore's spot "open" for discussion. I'm a huge Curry's fan, but I think his accomplishments aren't over Magic, Russell, Duncan or Kobe. At least not yet. He still has some gas in the tank and it wouldn't be rare if he gets 1 or 2 more rings.

[@zacsullivan1242]

He is better than Kobe and is above him all time

[@cbros324]

@@zacsullivan1242 please tell me your joking

[@zacsullivan1242]

@@cbros324 tbh I was never a Kobe fan and when I was truly a fan of basketball watching every game Kobe was a chuck. People act like saying someone isn’t too 5 all time in the history of the NBA is an insult. I know Kobe’s greatness but if anyone says Kobe is top 5 they dam well better have curry there. Curry is the second best PG to ever play behind MAgic and is one of the most efficient scorers of all time. Can’t say either about Kobe regarding his respective position

[@Nikz0091]

@@zacsullivan1242 my guy you said you wasn’t a Kobe fan so this is personal. I’m a Kobe and Steph fan. Kobe is better. End off

[@zacsullivan1242]

@@Nikz0091 sure but I’m not a blinded ignorant fan. I’m aware of his greatness. I would still take Steph over him if I were starting a team and I’d be shocked if you disagreed.

[@JacobBBB307]

J Will doesn’t know what a Mount Rushmore is 💀 the real mt rush is literally based off impacted not who was the best President

[@RayMagic12192]

Stephen A wanted to laugh when Perk said acorn head about Jay Williams lol

[@KvngLA]

Perk finna have a long day today lmao 🤣

[@EmiliosFather]

So flucking stupid…wait 30 years when someone comes along and people say Lebron ain’t who he is…Magic is by FAR the best pg ever….I just put Steph 2nd. Had him behind Zeke and Stockton. He is now number two at that position..

[@tainanking]

When steph gets 6 rings, this convo will get even spicier

[@yashin2360]

curry is only 34 i think he can get 2more rigs

[@PankysPen]

Get’em Perk!!!

[@adamdennehy412]

Steph is a top 6-10 player… he’s not mount rushmore nor is he outside the top 10. Perks argument was based around throwing insults at J Will instead of actually naming his mount Rushmore

[@Saltyahole]

I have him over magic though I do still understand the arguments for magic. To me the shooting is just too strong, since the main objective is to score more points than the other team. (But that’s not all he does) The selflessness is the icing.

[@tumadrechupapinga6252]

Perk acts like he and a few other players are the only smart knowledgeable players who played the game. No one but a very very very very small % (10-15%) of people (just like for Lebron) will say Curry is the greatest Point Guard of all time while 70%+ people will say Magic Johnson. Perk needs to stop acting like no one else who played the game isn’t as smart or smarter than him.

[@Von.NorthEnd]

@@Saltyahole magic so brings more to the table tho. He can rebound better and assist the ball and defend because he's 6'9

[@Von.NorthEnd]

What you meant to say was "Steph is a top 6-10 player TO ME". All time list are all subjective buddy

[@warriors4of626]

Bro perk out here FLAMINGGGG 🔥🔥🔥 bro speaking facts

[@andremalcolm_studio]

S.A.Smith face at 3:58 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@solo_0001]

That over the shoulder had me 😂

[@TraGamer1606]

Mount Rushmore is MJ, LeBron, Kobe, Magic. Stop it. 7 of the top 10 players in the history of the league are all Los Angeles Lakers. Stop it.

[@440-fishermandrock8]

lmao lebron is a cavalier 1st.

[@TraGamer1606]

@@440-fishermandrock8 he's a laker. Once you become a laker and win with us you are automatically first and foremost a laker

[@_IsrealPerez]

@@TraGamer1606 that’s cap cause it’s Lebron

[@hansg6015]

@@TraGamer1606 lol no they are not, clown organisation since kobe left

[@andrearoncolato4823]

LeBron Is not a laker and Kobe is not top4. I'm sorry

[@KingpenGames]

When Perk said "where's Bill Russell" I died laughing 🤣🤣 Jay, hold this L

[@kajuken]

Steph is pound for pound the greatest basketball player ever.

[@friscogiant4153]

I thought AI or Jordan was at first but I’m not gona disagree with u on this fam steph migh be him fr

[@cp3190]

Pound for pound ? So I guess Shaq must be the worst player ever ?

[@kajuken]

The pound for pound ranking is a way in boxing to compare boxers who wouldn’t fight each other due to weight classes and of course physical disparities. We need something like that when comparing players playing different positions.

[@friscogiant4153]

@@kajuken fr cause Daym imagin if Steph was 6’6 or 6’7 😬 dude would be unstoppable

[@dblock9300]

Either Spud Webb or Muggsy Bogues would win that

[@withgreatpower6169]

The Mount Rushmore isn't just about the best players. It's a combination of that and the most *influential players and Steph is 1000% in that particular conversation.

[@matheuscastro6644]

I'm a steph fan but he ain't top 5 all time, he's top 10 but not top 5

[@symbolic503]

top 4 all time? lmaooo

[@hoops7767]

ya you wish buddy, recency bias can be a big thing especially for a bandwagon fan

[@IamNotTrey]

@@matheuscastro6644You’re not a curry fan😂, everyone says that same lie to make people believe when it only makes you sound dumb, he’s top 3 ever behind MJ and lebron.

[@IamNotTrey]

@@hoops7767He’s a lock on there with MJ. You’re just coping. HE AND MJ have influenced the game more than anyone else ever.

[@oscarmartinez-fg9et]

The value of the championships and mvps of curry are on another level, Curry is the only unanimous regular season and finals MVP, magic cant score like curry, magic and curry are on the same level in IQ and passing, curry is obviously better at shooting so wheres the debate?

[@christiandgreat8127]

I think hes on mount rushmore… he freaking change the game!!!!

[@tyreebranch]

Steph is on Mount Rushmore because he won all those titles in Lebron era, who is arguably the greatest player of all time. Also, could very well surpass him..🎤

[@BUDOKAIultimate3]

Can't be arguably the GOAT if he's getting beat most of the time in "his era"...

[@tyreebranch]

@@BUDOKAIultimate3 But you are aware the argument is currently happening? That's what I'm meaning..agree or disagree. But it's happening.

[@BUDOKAIultimate3]

@@tyreebranch Happening by who?? 1)Young kids... know never saw Jordan play and who dont want to see Jordan play because they're not gonna like the cold hard truth about it.... 2) TV show analysts like Shannon and Nick Wrong who say these things to create a hot topic debate on their DEBATE show to boost ratings when these young kids/adults watch it to try and support their opinions. Just like this NEW bs narrative they are trying to push with "Steph being greater than Lebron" now that they are tied in rings.....lol gtfoh wit that nonsense. For any REAL knowledgeable NBA basketball fans, There is no argument as far as Jordan vs Lebron. One dominated in his era with 6 rings(in 2 3peats) and fmvps to show for it. The other barely has 4 rings and lost more than he won in "his own era"....despite having more all star help... 4-6. There is no arguments with Jordan vs Lebron nor Steph vs Lebron. Lebron still eclipses Steph OVERALL as a player. Jordan eclipses them both. Pitting them against each other is Media hot takes to boost ratings. No real arguments happening.

[@hersondeus6783]

Perk says hold hold on😅😂 the way he said it was funny😄

[@AliFrankTheTank]

Curry isn’t a Goat or top 5 player BUT he is a mount rushmore candidate… rushmore is the founding fathers, curry founded a era at this point.

[@theFORCEismyallie]

1) Michael Jordan 2) Magic Johnson 3) Kareem Abdul Jabbar 4) Lebron James 5) Stephen Curry That's my top 5 greatest players of all time.

[@DFlowetry]

Kobe is top 5. Curry 10-12

[@smilyle]

Steph has gone head to head with a Mt. Rushmore player and had beaten him 3 out of 4 times. And it would have been 4 out of 4 if Draymond didn't get suspended in 2016. If they didn't have Durant maybe it would be 2-2 even. Steph gives you as good of a chance of winning any player that had ever played.

[@derbyking8475]

LOL what lebron was better than curry in all 4 series also it could have been 4-0 for lebron if Kyrie and Love were healthy and if kd didn’t join the warriors

[@dreamtraveler003]

@@derbyking8475 I don’t see why people keep mentioning that Kyrie and Love were hurt in 2015. They literally were healthy all series in 2016 and were down 3-1. If it wasn’t for the Draymond suspension the series would have been over in 5. Plus people forget that Curry was actually playing injured that series. So stop it.

[@brendanbloom3366]

Head to head? He got outplayed by Kyrie. Basketball is a team game and curry isn't the reason they have an elite defense.

[@hoops7767]

@smilyle this is the worst take I ever seen😂 he lost 1 when all healthy. He won 1 when Lebron didn’t have his next 2 best players for the series, not 1 game because they’re stupid and can’t control themselves so they get suspended, their is no excuses for draymond. And then the best player or 2nd best player in the world joined them and he was the best player on that team for the 2 rings w KD, so he’s not on mt Rushmore or even top 8 in my opinion

[@marckennedyfils-aime1592]

Thank you for saying that because I just made a similar argument. They are crazy. President Abraham Lincoln in on Mount Rushmore because of the emancipation act of which he signed. Stephen Curry has changed the game. Win 4 out of 6 finals in 8 years in a tuff western conference. LeBron went to 9 straight finals in an weak eastern conference where 3 out of the 8 teams that made it to the finals were a great number under 500. To see the difference in 4 years he only been to the playoffs twice. One was a bubble., The other one playin. Stephen Curry has been on the western conference his entire career.

[@YOungSheek216]

I like how Stephen A Smith didn’t even say anything lol

[@fcc950]

"when you enter the top 10, it's a 1, 2, 3, 4" unreal

[@tonycockerham1396]

Honestly, the Mount Rushmore does NEED to be extended. Can't leave out a revolutionary player like Steph.

[@IamNotTrey]

Extended? He’s a top 2 LOCK with MJ. If you disagree, simply don’t talk basketball. Only two players ever to CREATE a top 5 dynasty EVER with only ONE SUPERSTAR help.

[@TheSnowRacer888]

our greatest weakness lies in giving up the most certain way to succeed is to always try one more time.... remember that quote

[@px7988]

I don't care. I'm a Warriors fan but I'm proud to say that he is in the TOP 10 right now. He does have a chance to climb up.

[@Heie_]

Big perk cooked jay will in this one he gonna ask perk why Bill Russell not on his Mount Rushmore then completely leave Bill Russell off of his own 😂🤦🏾‍♂️ Jay hold this L

[@stringtheory8090]

Honestly Steph is the greatest point guard to ever play if you ask me

[@lilfolkes]

Stephen A's expression when Perk call Jay an acorn head 😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@justgary2471]

MJ, Bron, Curry, Kareem. Those are the only solid locks on Mt. Rushmore. I would not include magic on there simply because he didn't really change the game.

[@gone.golfing]

He CHANGED the game of a PROFESSIONAL game. That’s all needs to be said.

[@tainanking]

@SamoaVsEverybody_814 he made things a lot harder for guys like Lebron and Giannis who don’t use the 3 as a threat. Both of those guys with their inside dominance and play style would have more chips if the 3 wasn’t as relevant. Steph made it mandatory

[@yuriabcdms]

Kareem and Magic mostly won with each other. Without each other they only won 1 ring (Kareem). This means maybe Steph can surpass them, since he won 2x without KD.

[@jewll3844]

And we still haven't seen a pure 6,9 point guard like magic.

[@IamNotTrey]

You’re absolutely correct, he clears magic.

[@IamNotTrey]

@@jewll3844but that “pure guard” has 98% of his highlights being him passing to his hall of fame teammates since his rookie year. Curry and MJ are the only two players ever to create a top 5 dynasty ever with 1 and 0 OUTSIDE superstar help respectively.

[@tennady]

SA tryin not to laugh at that acorn head 😂😂

[@Miles_305]

No way is Steph over Magic. GSW fans need to calm down. No shade to Steph, I love Steph's game but no. And no LBJ and Steph are NOT pg's don't @ me 🤣🤣🤣

[@austinkeller4422]

Bro what are you on? Stephs not a PG? Magic had a top 5 all time player with him, not steph lol

[@moemoe-jb2fw]

Magic Johnson has aids therefore he’s immediately disqualified

[@wook1990]

Steph Curry is at least Top 10 all-time and he's now a Top 3 point guard, maybe even Top 2.

[@futurekillerful]

Eh more like at least top 12 tbh. He is a top 2 pg tho

[@440-fishermandrock8]

lol . IT and magic Johnson

[@wook1990]

@@440-fishermandrock8 There are people who think Steph Curry is now over Isiah Thomas. That's why I said "maybe even Top 2".

[@WinedandDined27]

He’s been a top 2 PG for the last few years.

[@kingdoe6029]

He been top 2

[@Supermariohoops24]

Perk is so high rn 😂😂😂

[@sedlyholmes3722]

Tbh, magic only won 5 rings because he got an mvp teammate Kareem but nobody is saying that, so basically Steph and KD teams up media goes to question them, how about magic and kareem?

[@fedeofeast3525]

Mount rushmore has 4 spots, it's: MJ, Lebron, Magic and either Kareem or Russell you choose (if i had to choose i'd say Kaeem), that's it no other player is in contention for now

[@Saltyahole]

Lmao, Russell?

[@brendanbloom3366]

It's wilt Russell Kareem and hakeem and for perimeter players it's Jordan bird Magic and kd

[@DFlowetry]

Mount Rushmore is Mj, Kobe, Lebron, Magic.

[@fedeofeast3525]

@@DFlowetry I wouldn't put Kobe

[@tylerevans5551]

By generation, First one is Bill, Wilt, Doctor J, Kareem The other is Magic, Larry, Jordan, Shaq Last is Kobe, Tim, LeBron, Steph. All time, gotta be 5. Not in order. Kareem, Magic, Jordan, Lebron, Kobe

[@leoni1190]

Big O over Doctor J, and Bill over Kobe

[@Saltyahole]

@C kd isn’t there.

[@Saltyahole]

Steph over Magic

[@tylerevans5551]

@C can't put KD in. Now his story is that he only won with the Dubs. If he gets one more, maybe. Can't predict whos gonna crack it next, its too long a process to predict. I guess Giannis has the best chance considering his accolades at his young age.

[@majornewb]

Here's the true Mount Rushmore: MJ, Lebron, Curry, Wilt. Each of these has changed/modified the game of basketball forever for the better

[@davis2145]

If the criteria is changing the game, what about Kobe?

[@JimBeGaming]

i don't personally have Steph Curry in my top 10 all time but I completely respect anybody who does. It's nice to turn on ESPN and not hear about LEBRON AND MJ every second of the day. What Curry gave us with that Finals run is a fresh debate topic. something you argue with your boys about.

[@IamNotTrey]

You don’t know ball.

[@harrygibbs912]

Jay Will turning around and look back at Perk will forever be funny lmao

[@isaacpinnell9813]

Cmon guys, K Perk is a terrible analyst. We were talking about Curry being arguably top 10-15 and now people want to shoot him all the way up to the top 4 all of a sudden? You really saying he's better than Magic with 5 titles, 3 mvps and 3 finals mvps? Better than Wilt who averaged 30 and 23 for his career? Shaq, who is the most dominant player ever? Kobe with his 5 nba titles, 2 finals mvps and 9 first team all defenses? And the only reason J-will brought up Russell was not because he was on his Mt Rushmore, but he was just saying that he still has him higher than Curry all time.

[@rgwak]

From a pure basketball perspective, Curry has changed the game more than LeBron has. LeBron is a better version of Magic. Curry is one of a kind. There is no "Curry is a better version of [insert player here]." And no, Curry is not a better version of Ray Allen. Allen never had the handle or finishing ability that Curry has.

[@robX931]

I agree. LeBron is a physical athlete unlike we have seen. Curry is about an inch taller than me and shoots the ball better than anyone I have ever seen. His influence on 3 point shooter is undeniable. But I just don't think he is top 4. The game is played on both ends and the top 4 are dominant on both ends. They have to be to be considered one of the absolute 4 best ever. And size matters in the NBA. It helps so much on the defensive end. That's not a knock on Curry. He is 6'2". He just cannot be that good on D against guys 5 or 6 inches taller. I don't think he will ever Crack top 4. Top 10? Maybe. He still had a lot of career left.

[@wilsonsmanz]

Lebron did not change the game at all. The only thing Lebron did was make it common place for players to form super teams. I mean that is not exactly changing the game per say. I mean I don't know what Lebron has done to change the actual game on the floor. Someone else could probably let me in on that.

[@jewll3844]

@@wilsonsmanz he changed the game by really taking care of his body we have never seen someone @ brons age still play @ an mvp level 20 seasons man when have we ever seen that!! And he's still jumping out the building!!!

[@wilsonsmanz]

@@jewll3844 Stop it dude. That is not changing the game. You're reaching and still not even close. Bron taking care of his body and being able to play well at his age isn't changing the game for anybody else. It isn't forcing any rule changes, its not impacting any plays or changing coaching philosophies or anything. Curry on the other hand is different because of how prolific he is at the 3 and he has forced defenses to change and also caused teams to copy the way his team plays. Like I said, the only thing LeBron did was make it acceptable for players to form their own superteams.

[@mattlunsford731]

Larry was better than magic. Nobody wants to say it but its true. Magic was of course great but bird was slightly better. Better rebounder, shooter/scorer...passed nearly as well. Better team defender...both were avg on ball guys. Obviously positions and style of play were different but i take bird everytime. Rushmore 1. Jordan 2. Kareem 3. Bird 4. Lebron Magic/Duncan/Kobe/Wilt wrestling for the next 4 spots.

[@futurekillerful]

Calm down lol. Curry is fighting for top 10 rn if anything.

[@michellebranch7972]

Curry don't Care!

[@johnjovanovichwick4194]

📠📠📠📠

[@antwanbornds5551]

u silly af actually watch basketball my guy

[@IsiKash13]

He top 10 already

[@AliFrankTheTank]

“Tell me WHY … NOT” “…Magic Johnson, 5 Rings, 3 MVPs” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 idk why but i was crying

[@SilkyTube]

This is not even a basketball debate…

[@jameszilla1954]

If lebron is the best point guard then bird is the best small forward

[@alansardon8040]

J getting ate Lmaoo

[@eduardoimbue]

Perk got Jay with that Bill Russell jab

[@jamesprez7296]

Perk is ridiculous. You can never say he just entered the TOP 10 and he on montrushmore. IF he TOP 4 it means he's been TOP 10 for a while already he didn't just become TOP 10 and TOP4 in the same breath. Jay will 10000% in his logic on perks BS.

[@bluewave3417]

Curry is on the NBA's Mt. Rushmore. Because no matter what you think of the modern game HE is the one who revolutionized it. He is as unique as a "small" player as Wilt Chamberlain was as a big. Before Steph the idea of regularly guarding 35ft way for a jumpshot was laughable. Now teams have to do just that. Which opens up the entire floor for his teammates. It has changed the game and forced other teams to (unsuccessfully) adapt.

[@shauncampbell4371]

i dont think Steph needs to do anything more but if he wins a 5th title and either another league MVP or Finals MVP then you have to argue top 5 instead if top 10. Personally i think they should have a Mt Rushmore by position instead of overall. Here's mine by position PG - Magic, Steph, Isiah Thomas, Tony Parker SG - MJ, Dwade, Kobe, Klay Thompson SF - Larry Bird, Lebron, KD, Giannis PF - Tim Duncan, KG, Draymond, Rodman C - Hakeem, Bill Russell, KAJ, Shaq Who would you take out and include instead (must have either more titles than the person on my list or have an MVP (league or Finals)? Maybe Dirk instead of KG at PF as he has a Finals MVP and 1 title?

[@rafanyu9240]

I get that people are happy for Steph and he just won a chip but people need to just chill out Steph isn't top 10 ever

[@domj9446]

These Analyst always victims of the moment. Steph is a top player and Perk is wack.

[@sheraz7894]

ACORn HEAD. Lmao. Jay Williams face when Perk called him acorn head hahaha.

[@rahrus4791]

It was only 6 teams when bill got 11

[@anklesthedragon]

Top 7 imo but not top 4-5 when u have jordan, Lebron, Kareem, magic, and a toss up of bird, Kobe, duncan, Russell.

[@dawdle525]

to me you need at least 5 rings to be on the mt rushmore after NBA/ABA merger, before the merger Russell is the best, after merger to me its Jordan, Magic, Kareem and Kobe/Duncan both as 0.5 player, we all know and see how much it takes to perform at the highest level, and even Lebron is an once in a life time player, he only did it 4 times, if he beat Mavs in 2011 and Spurs in 2014 I'd even put him at the same level of Jordan, if not better.

[@LAUSTINDASAUCE]

Magic + Kareem Kobe + Shaq Steph + Klay + Draymond + Iggy + Looney All 5 of these guys have won all their chips together with 1 team. Curry changed the game and will collect almost every 3 point record there is, Klay has the others. Green been a defensive monster, and looney been a quiet and consistent player that plays between the ears. Iggy… nuff said. This warriors team is the BEST TEAM EVER in the NBA until next year.

[@telles0824]

Curry barely just made the top 10 he’s not anywhere near Mount Rushmore yet

[@brendanbloom3366]

He isn't top 25

[@dnative93]

It’s not just about accolades but also impact! Mine would be Magic, Bird , Lebron and MJ

[@leandroanjos9660]

People who criticize Curry's defense don't realize two points, he's a good defender, not as good as the other top 10 players but his defense is underrated and people are starting to realize it now, the other point is, putting Looney, Draymond and GPII at the same time in court is a luxury that only GSW can, three great defenders, but even just two of them at the same time would generate space problems, Curry's disruptive offense gives them the opportunity to score even if sometimes Curry is not the one getting the assists, just the chaos of the constantly moving offense system opens up space, so Curry makes the GSW defense better by allowing more than one non-shooter, but great defender, to be on the court at the same time.

[@romnesia7729]

Yes. Next video.

[@SunnyDarkoShow]

0:14 THIS IS ESPN HISTORY HAHAHAHAHA

[@bash6351]

Perk on the Mount Rushmore of ESPN NBA Analysts. He changed the NBA analyst game.

[@crazymas88]

When I think of the mt I think of who changed the Game who brought the game forward the one who pushed the game to new limits who brought the views and love of the game, mj goat, shaq was the talk of the 2000’s the big guy who people payed to see, curry the guy who made the 3pt the primary shot the one who people wanted to see so magical things, and either Lebron or Kobe

[@reedcylear9404]

Yeah no the Mount Rushmore is the best 4 players “ changing the game” is a narrative not an accolade not to mention analytics those rockets teams etc helped makes the three pointer nore prominent no just steph curry

[@mathewbreh3081]

For me NBA Mt. Rushmore is for those who CHANGED the game. That’s Steph Curry

[@rahrus4791]

First finals MVP he wasn't robbed of

[@dhruvinshah9813]

1 2 3 4 is in top 10. The most exciting nba fact you'll ever hear on a First Take episode.

[@bamshakfwangyil1301]

I actually like Perk’s question, why not? Man is a top 10 player ever and has left an impact on the way we play the sport like only 1 or 2 people ever have in the history of the game. Every one has their Mount Rushmore. Steph is on mine mainly based on how the game has changed in a very large part because of one man

[@jayday545]

I think I will have my Mount Rushmore as MJ, Bird, Magic and Steph. The reason I have those 4 is because they all made a real mark on the league and took it to new levels of gameplay, popularity and change.

[@jtdime]

I agree with Perk even though he didn't want to get into it... if you didn't experience a three point line you shouldn't be brought up in greatest players of all time, put them in the greatest appreciative players instead.

[@jtdime]

@C nope its unfair to post three point line players. Many of these guys played with fewer teams and less diversity making it easier to win. However for what they done for the game to make in entertaining enough to where it is today they should be greatly appreciated.

[@jtdime]

@C false until Bull Russell 8th season is when the NBA allowed more than 4 black players on a NBA team therefore the fact ur staying false narratives proves my point even further because the league was segregated making it weaker. In this 8th season of Bull Russell career there was 8 other teams he was going against with it being common sense it’s easier for a dynasty to win. I don’t agree but could see where you come from by saying the three point line doesn’t equal better basketball I just use the time frame of when the point line got placed to correlate where actual competition began to develop. At the end of the day it’s unfair to today’s plays to compare a player going up against 8 teams vs 29.

[@thefreedmapplication6995]

1. Jordan 2.Lebron 3. Kareem 4. Magic 5.Kobe 6.Duncan 7.Shaq 8.Steph 9. Bill 10 Wilt 11. Larry 12.Hakeem 13. Durant I think this covers the important based. For me this moves Steph from like almost tied at 12 with durant to 8

[@IslandGoMTG]

J. Will killed that turn around look tho lmfaooooo

[@Kevin-ct1id]

J Will ultimately assumed it was to be the top 4 best players in NBA history, which was blasphemy in the words of Stephen A Smith . Based on J Will's logic in the video, the actual Mt. Rushmore would be Washington , Adams, Jefferson, and Madison , which is not true and instead is Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt , and Jefferson ( presidents who arguably made historical impacts. )