Has the Mormon Church FAILED in Texas?

[@vfromid2186]

LDS Church: 200 years of not being able to read the room.

[@chandralaframboise963]

😂

[@jamiehugh1212]

😂🤦🏼‍♀️😂🤦🏼‍♀️

[@kol2456]

When he said you can see the stars on that side of town and "...we take PRIDE in that," I thought 'bad word choice when talking to the LDS'. So many of us mormons use words differently than the rest of the world and read meaning into people's words and turns of phrase that just aren't there.

[@TS-iv9ml]

They don't care. Their way or the highway. Belief: You can buy anything in this world with enough money

[@chadnelsen3679]

Can I please use this line? 😂😂😂

[@lauriewilliams3402]

What I find appalling is that the church leaders are not following the twelfth Article of Faith, obeying the laws of the land. Fairview has building height codes. Follow them.

[@AndrielleHillis]

I was the one that was pasting the 12th A of F over and over again in the chat during the town hall livestream.

[@TaiHoo-c8h]

The Church is following the Twelfth Article of Faith by strictly upholding The Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act of 2000, and the Texas Religious Freedom Restoration Act. It's the municipality of Fairview that has no regard for the 11th Article of Faith.

[@sandee-zn9tq]

@@TaiHoo-c8h99yr old tyrant prophet RMN (aka Ozymandius)- is that you??!!

[@janschreiber6256]

@user-eb3jp8yr3y Fairview is following RLIUPA which states that churches are not to be discriminated against concerning land use. Fairview is NOT saying the LDS church cannot build but that they must obey the zoning laws.

[@Englishbob1955]

@@lauriewilliams3402 I am UK LDS so have limited knowledge of US law but it seems to me that there is a conflict between the US constitution, religious freedom, and zoning laws as ensconced in civil and community law. As a consequence, these need to be ranked in order of obedience; dare I say the first law of heaven? Listening to commentary, it seems the US constitution and the associated civil liberties outrank local laws. Therefore, to state that the Church is at fault is shooting at the wrong target. The state and federal laws that give religion precedence is what is wrong. If you are basing your argument on moral grounds then that needs to be transparent and no one, yet no one, gives a toot about morality as there are no consequences. People jump up and down and scream ‘foul’ then they run out of steam. I recognise that west is least and east is best, but perhaps there is a greater need for civil, urban, rural protection overarching religious rights. Or is that blasphemy?

[@darlenelane9010]

Great speech by the mayor and enjoyed hearing it a second time. Thanks Nemo!

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Faridenunez]

@@NEMOTHEMORMONare you covering the law suit going on in USA? Is there a chance for members here in Europe to do something similar?

[@hanako4475]

The Church Corp has zero ability to compromise. I'm so glad the Fairview Council are standing up for the residents.

[@ItsMeCheryl1231]

Agree!

[@TaiHoo-c8h]

@@hanako4475 : How are they "standing up"? The mayor already offered a concession speech.

[@MaryM-w1k]

Nemo, you did an excellent speech in Fairview. Thank you.

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

My pleasure!

[@timmiestabrnak]

Thank God! The bully got denied. Thank you for your efforts nemo!👏

[@phillipcook3430]

If you think the LDS church is a bully in this scenario I am concerned your definition of bully is similar to Joe Biden's definition of inflation or Bidenomics vs. real economics.

[@ItsMeCheryl1231]

Hasn't the LDS church already sent out lawsuit? Let's hope the judge it's assigned to the (alleged) case follows the codes, and tells the church to either change the design, or, build elsewhere. To me, it's black and white.

[@39Lords]

I'm absolutely shocked with regards to what's going on in Fairview, Cody and Heber

[@ItsMeCheryl1231]

My Aunt and Uncle-in-law are LDS (I am a life-long Lutheran) and live in Heber. I recently asked my Aunt how she feels about the new temple hoopla, and she is all for it, because it will be closer to her to go to, to do her genealogy. I was surprised. That area has beautiful scenery, and I thought for sure she would be against the fact that it would be blocking people's views of the area. I don't know where it is in relation to her house.

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

I’m appalled, but unfortunately not shocked or surprised

[@sandee-zn9tq]

We want our $200k tithing back!! Please!!

[@orisonorchards4251]

Same!

[@TwoTreesVisuals]

It’s so simple. Just build it shorter if you want it there. Everyone seems happy and anxious to have it there. Just follow the same rules as everyone else and you can worship there asap.

[@ItsMeCheryl1231]

Yes, MANY smaller temples exist, and the LDS Grand Poobah's know it. I just drove past one yesterday. I hope Fairview stands it's ground and denies the 'full sized' temple. Quit bullying this small town.

[@TaiHoo-c8h]

@@TwoTreesVisuals : It's so simple. Just apply the variances evenly across all faiths and don't grant one variance to a particular group that you would not grant to a minority religion such as the LDS. fairviewtexas.org/images/CUP2017-01_Creekwood_UMC_TC_complete.pdf?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR16cEZEiIpOYTMkVDg-yIhbGjAxv8--qbahwWk7yjPel_7FpREL8KwX34c_aem_s1rL5NlslJmlICLMX2YNBg

[@tombenjamin3685]

Everyone?

[@jamiehugh1212]

So glad to call Texas my home!! This was amazing. Thanks for covering this story so thoroughly

[@victoriahiggins1238]

Hi all! I’m a Fairview United petition team member!!!!! We LOVE YOU. And I love the in cheek battle cry … “GO F.U.!!” (Go fairview United)

[@jonjahr3403]

I'm glad you commented. Can you tell me where I can order one of these green shirts?

[@jillcook6930]

Alycia K (Bridlegate) had them. ​@@jonjahr3403

[@Skyhawk98]

This story sounds familiar: arrive in a town, bully and strong arm the locals, then cry persecution when they don’t you bully them. Move on and repeat 😬

[@kchapmanprovo]

The new Taylorsville Temple (which is GINORMOUS!) is not in a residential area. They don't need it in the middle of a lovely little neighborhood!

[@nathanderr6317]

@Kchapmanprovo Taylorsville Utah Temple Is in The residential neighborhood's I Check it There was House's Next to it And right in the across the street There was A Commercial Zone And Plus Salt Lake city temple Was In The residential area Back Then People are Saying that Salt Lake And Taylorsville Temple's Was In A Commercial zones No That Is All Lies Please Don't Falsely Taylorsville Temple Location And Salt Lake

[@jodyrosedahl4278]

​@@nathanderr6317You need to edit your comment again. It is gibberish.

[@dallenford9592]

The Taylorsville temple is in a lot that is currently zoned SSD-IN (Site-Specific Development - Institutional). However, it was zoned R-1-8 (Single family residential, 8000 sq. ft. lots) until it was re-zoned for the temple in 2020. It's an easy mixup though, as it directly touches residential on the west and south, but is directly across the street from commercial on the north and the freeway on the east. Still, half commercial is much better than the full-residential that they want in Fairview.

[@ItsMeCheryl1231]

@@nathanderr6317 Huh?

[@nathanderr6317]

@@dallenford9592 They have been Building temple's in the residential neighborhood's for Almost 200 Years Kirkland Ohio Nauvoo Illinois St George logan Manti Salt Lake City Utah Laie Hawaii Cardston Alberta Mesa Arizona Temple and the list goes on

[@maxjenkins7139]

Thanks Nemo for your coverage of the temples issues. I enjoy your podcasts.

[@PatriciaNoel-qp2ff]

After 64 years of membership, I’m glad to have left this LDS corporation. We lived in North Dallas for 15 years and even helped build the Dallas temple. Texas has a lot of undeveloped land. Move out there!! 😮

[@Avenger24601]

I just saw this parallel between the temple experience and the Church lawyers promising the Fairview citizens that they have to build the temple to see the blessings that will come. In the endowment ceremony in the temple, you’re told you have to agree to eternal, binding agreements BEFORE they will tell you what those agreements are. Would you buy an expensive car at the edge of your income based on the salesman’s promise that “you’ll love it”? Trust us. We’re from the Church. Would we ever lie? Run from such!

[@jordanalexander8099]

Mormons, Fairview doesn’t want a giant lit up building in their neighborhood. Get over it and move on.

[@marebear6727]

Exactly! Just like Mormons & even other religions tell us to "get over it & move on," don't like being given the same medicine in return! 🤷🏼‍♀️. Oh well!

[@chaserock4675]

Seems like Jason Aldean's "Try That In A Small Town" song, should be played at Mormon headquarters. LOL

[@medeekdesign]

Amazing speech in Texas, a huge fan of your channel and all that you do.

[@stevenbolin7688]

Glad to hear this one ❤

[@PerditionSon]

Nemo doing the Lords work 🫡

[@rkn2800]

I am a member of the "LDS Corporation" since I was born and the Church has been nothing but bullies in matters having to do with temple building lately. Temples used to be very special and greeted with lots of joy and fanfare, but in recent years it has become more annoying and even redundant. Inventing steeple doctrine to facilitate political ends is a disgusting move from a doctrinal standpoint. I am from Hawaii and our temple -- first to be built outside the US -- has never had a steeple.

[@mdawgwhite]

ya but mormon leaders are stubborn and do not like to look like they failed.

[@phillipcook3430]

If you think temples in LDS history were invited with joy and fanfare you are extremely ignorant. They were invited with joy and fanfare by active believing members but not so much outside of believing members.

[@ItsMeCheryl1231]

The 'church' has been changing it's doctrine for 200 years, why stop now???

[@rkn2800]

@@phillipcook3430 um, thats what I meant, dummazz.

[@alananat6628]

@@phillipcook3430 The "active and believing members" are running far and few these days.

[@wolkewolke7704]

The "Prophet" has absolutely Evil Eyes ... I left lately after 63 years ... Just couldn`t stand it any longer to stay

[@djr5372]

Poor baby.

[@jodyrosedahl4278]

Hugs! I know it was hard but good for you for being willing to see the truth (even though it was probably very difficult to admit). Good wishes and blessings upon you as you discover the true God within you. ❤

[@wolkewolke7704]

@@djr5372 I see myself pretty lucky ... everything is perfect now.

[@personofinterest8731]

Out in 2015. Old now but happy. All the best clouds clouds, from South Africa! 🇿🇦

[@PatriciaNoel-qp2ff]

I too left after 64 years. I’m so embarrassed to have been part of the corporation for so long. I lived in Dallas during the temple building for 15 years. This is so awful. I have no words to express my grief. I’m seriously praying this monstrously will be denied.

[@sandee-zn9tq]

As Dehlin says- WWJS? Who Would Jesus Sue??

[@HeroMan380]

You freakin rock Nemo! One dude single -handedly bringing down the mormon corporation from the inside! Heck yeah man

[@DavidTaylor-n1z]

Nemo keep up with the good work of opening the eyes of the world to the evil of the LDS leadership.

[@dallinschoen4511]

messed with the wrong mayor

[@woodystube1000]

Nemo, you do not disappoint. This video was another very well done explanation of the Fairview issue. You continue to earn my subscription and I am happy to support your channel. Carry on!

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Glad to hear it!

[@DavidTaylor-n1z]

Thank You Nemo.

[@whitesalamander]

Love you Brits point of view, most refreshing. Great collaboration to all who produced this timely Mormon temple moment👏

[@sgee-vc1hz]

LDS Prophet Russell Nelson has taken all the fun out of exaltation and Celestial Polygamy ---- sucks to be mormon these days.

[@nekatrammell7437]

Hats off to the Fairview mayor. That speach was great, he remained professional and explained that they gave options to the lds church. I thought that was excellent.

[@joeshmo114]

Humanity for the Win!

[@TheDragonhawkKnights]

Hey Nemo, I really love your perspective, thank you for sharing your amazing thoughts with us!

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

My pleasure!

[@lissaanderson3975]

How can we get a Fairview United shirt?

[@nadinehansen9241]

Land use and zoning aren't my area of legal expertise, but I think the mayor and council did an excellent job of setting themselves up for winning a lawsuit. The mayor made it clear that they were not discriminating on the basis of religion, but rather that their decision was based solely on the neutral ground of zoning regulations. He told them that if they built in the commercial part of town they would likely be approved with little trouble. Texas is in the Fifth Circuit, which I think will be friendly to the town if/when the case goes up on appeal. I realize that the church won in Boston, and I don't know the details of that case, but here, the church isn't asking for a small exception to the law. Rather, it is demanding (and extorting) a wholesale disregard of the zoning laws. I wish the town well. If churches can walk all over completely secular land use/zoning laws, then our laws are at the mercy of organized religion. It will be interesting to see what happens if the Satanic Temple decides it needs a structure in downtown SLC.

[@ItsMeCheryl1231]

Well said, Nadine!!

[@DavidTaylor-n1z]

The Satanic Temple will get what it wants. The LDS always have and always get what it wants with the eager help of the church.

[@michealcobia7869]

I think the important part of this issue is never being talked about . Number one. The church and its members in great numbers, believe that they are the only true, and that their people and they themselves talk to God in one way or another. This causes some thinking issues. Number two many members and some leaders still believe the old Teachings that the constitution would hang by a thread and would be saved by the elders of the latter-day Saints. This is very problematic when you are right and you are the savior. It isn’t just this is the way Mormons act it is they want to be and think that they will be part of, the world domination at the second coming.

[@sgee-vc1hz]

This current group of mormon prophets and apostles have destroyed the Latter Day Saint Church --- absolutely disgusting behavior with these small towns.

[@suzannedehaven6775]

Yes they have

[@sammiller4321]

How so?

[@suzannedehaven6775]

@@sammiller4321 by embarrassing the church

[@sammiller4321]

@@suzannedehaven6775 they ‘destroyed’ it by embarrassing the church? Interesting.

[@suzannedehaven6775]

@@sammiller4321 they church got fined by the irs, among other things...

[@Avenger24601]

Would it be wrong to ask the Church to stay on the “covenant path,” with regard to Fairview’s ordinances and covenants?

[@MustangWriter]

Brilliant summation guys. Thanks....from Texas.

[@williamphillips2060]

The church already won this fight once in Boston. In the long run, it will probably win again eventually, either at the state high court level, or even at the SCOTUS level. But that would be an AWFUL outcome for gathering Israel in that area. People who were either pre-disposed to like us, or who had zero ill feelings toward us, are now firmly on the thumbs down side. And for what? Huge spires are completely unnecessary, and do not in any way improve the holiness of the structure. Seriously, this whole insistence upon this ridiculously huge spire has done nothing but stir up the evil spirit of contention, and that spirit will remain there for decades.

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Couldn’t have put it better

[@tombenjamin3685]

Well, the LDS Corp. has billions of its members money, so

[@JesusCome-bs3pg]

Act7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,...Jeremiah 7:4 Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these...7:8 Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit.

[@micheleh3851]

If the Church can't build as planned in Fairview they will either submit a revised plan or go somewhere else in Texas. I doubt Fairview would approve a revised temple plan at this point. But the Church still owns the land so there are other options for building other structures (like a Bishop’s storehouse or a Deseret Industries) that may be approved. Texas is the largest state in the continental USA, so there is bound to be somewhere near Fairview or elsewhere in Texas they can acquire as a new location for the Temple. So no, the Church has not failed in Texas. Hopefully this has been a learning experience for Church attorneys, etc. on how to be a more humble neighbor in the next community.

[@Traciwokeup]

The LDS Corporation are bullies!

[@sgee-vc1hz]

No one can be exalted and become a Polygamist God without these temples ---- I'm thinking of building one in my neighborhood🙂

[@sgee-vc1hz]

I meant to say a small temple in my backyard with no bright lights and parking but all the masonic rites and rituals.

[@calebhorlacher]

As members of the church, we are taught that we have to take sides (Who's on the Lord's Side, Who? Now is the time to show...), and obviously our prophet and our other inspired and set-apart leaders are the ones on the right side, and our personal worthiness before our Eternal Father depends on our loyal sustaining and supporting of those leaders, and also being sure that we do NOT support any groups that oppose the Church. My life was simple when I believed and followed that view. When I realized that the exact same men who I was always sure were the real-life "true messengers from the Father" were also men who often teach "the philosophies of men mingled with scripture," it absolutely blew my mind and turned my life upside-down. It was too complex for me to handle for the next 2 years (and counting...). I can't blame these members for not being able to compute the complexity of their leaders being the ones in the wrong. To them that's not even a possible permutation of reality. The Lord has revealed his will about the temple to be built, and the leaders are clearly on the Lord's side. So it's a simple black-or-white, right-or-wrong, all-or-none issue. The only explanation is that the opposition is blinded by and under the influence of the Adversary, even to the point of fighting against God and persecuting the saints.

[@mdawgwhite]

Please stop playing the victim card. Its been used way too much and people have caught on. Well, to be honest, they caught on when smith burned down the printing press building because they were revealing smiths inappropriate sexual behavior(which eventually got him killed) but of course you only hear that they were persecuted

[@JesusCome-bs3pg]

Act7:48 ..Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,..Jeremiah 7:4 ..Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these. 4 Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these...4: 8 ¶ Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit.

[@sgee-vc1hz]

Yes, Mormonism has become Super CULTY!

[@The_Man_Chidi]

You Cherry pick scriptures thinking you sound Intelligent ​@@JesusCome-bs3pg

[@DavidTaylor-n1z]

Jesus told the Pharisees "you are of your father the Devil". The same applies to the LDS leadership of this day

[@tuesdaycurtis163]

The Perth western Australia temple is 71 feet high. It is also in a heavily populated area

[@Wildxroses]

That sounds horrible.

[@maxhill5197]

It is quite hard to see, though, as it's built 'side on' to the street, and runs behind the meeting house. It only has a small street frontage,very small garden area and very little parking spaces.

[@rosemariebennett7213]

Is anyone here still active in church? I am but mostly I feel like I'm just a filler..I fill in the row ...but back to this subject..it's embarrassing how this church treats people and towns when they don't get their way. Maybe it's a sign of the times that the church is not so strong

[@MPCoryell]

I'm embarrassed by the church. It's not much of a church anymore, just a corporation. 😢

[@ItsMeCheryl1231]

I am an NeverMo. If the church wants to grow (while they lie about how many members they have), and try to get more converts, stop acting like bullies. Who would join a church whose mantra is "Do as I say, NOT as I do." You are tarnishing yourselves.

[@DavidTaylor-n1z]

I'm still a member but I recognize the real need for the church to become a real Christian Church instead of kicking its members around.

[@DavidTaylor-n1z]

​@@MPCoryell2000 years ago Jesus kicked out the money changers. Now he's doing it again.

[@juliehatch9861]

And it is not a "church" but a corporation

[@lorenhuish5558]

Thanks Nemo

[@zemejal]

Like John Dehlin said, we should change what would Jesus do to “who would Jesus sue” If only LDS members were actually aware this is going on, and has been going on

[@Geoplanetjane]

Nemo, thank you for your testimony for the Town of Fairview.

[@kellynielsen6715]

Thanks!

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Thank you too!

[@jeremyc.5795]

I respect Texans. They are a Brave people, incapable of being sold out to Bullies like the LDS.

[@fionasheepwash2718]

The building does not need to be overly large with a very tall spire, respect the area and build within the parameters given. You are moving into someones town respect them and obey the law just like every one else.

[@bettycrockett5]

Oh the church is ruining their reputation in Utah as well as the rest of the world.

[@KendraAndTheLaw]

It's almost as if the current "prophet" is mentally ill

[@Fatfinger4378]

I loved seeing Peter here! Where are PD and Ruth and Julian, etc.? Nemo, bring back the Britvengers? I miss the Britvengers!!

[@rooheath]

Still here!! We just heckle him in the comments and occasionally make him eat vegetables instead of biscuits 😂

[@Fatfinger4378]

@@rooheath 🤣

[@ItsMeCheryl1231]

Correct me if I am mistaken, but didn't someone once say that Jesus lives on the second floor of LDS temples? My husband and I took a short road trip this past weekend. On our way to and from, we pass a smaller town with a newer LDS temple just off the freeway. (Yes, smaller temples exist, LDS leaders, and you know it.) On our way home, as we passed it, my husband was quite disappointed that Jesus didn't wave back at him...

[@jaylarsen67]

I need more practice buying superchat because when I buy the SC, I mess up the chat part.

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

No worries, thanks for your support regardless :)

[@aloesecretinc]

Lds land development firm is already purchasing property around the proposed temple location. They plan to build gigantic apartments.

[@reddish22]

Man, Nemo and Peter’s comments about the cultural differences bum me out. It’s interesting to see how different the Church acts in Britain. I hope the First Amendment isn’t used to find the biggest bully who demands the most wins. Insane to me that’s even a possibility here. Makes me want to read a bunch of the “RFRA” and RLUIPA case law and see what the likelihood of success if the Church sues is.

[@Chococatania]

The naming convention of the church (calling temples by London, even when it’s 40 miles away from London, or McKinney when it’s in Fairview) - started with Joseph smith and the Book of Mormon when he says Jesus will be born in jerusalem (rather than Bethlehem). … they are just following their own convention. Haha

[@BigglyWiggly-td4nf]

Love your content, Nemo!

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@TheSaintelias]

Peter is fun to listen to but doesn’t always take breaks for other panelists.

[@flyingspirit3549]

@40:24: U S tax laws can be changed, and the tax-favorable treatment that churches currently enjoy can be changed whenever the population as a whole agrees.

[@DavidTaylor-n1z]

The LDS have been threatened with revocation before and they buckled right away.

[@flyingspirit3549]

@@DavidTaylor-n1z True! Good point. Especially since they can at any time shift attention to some other problem, and let those nasty Texans just go without a temple.

[@heathercondie4176]

Nemo, you are onto something. They want to reaffirm the persecution complex.

[@maxhill5197]

Yes, they are building the "Sovereign Citizen" base... there seems to be strong support to dis-trust government & Law Officers amongst LDS peoples...

[@AndrielleHillis]

Peter is making me want to move to the UK when he talks about how quiet the neighborhoods are.... well, almost. I was watching a video yesterday about how Brits are more willing to personalize their homes and aren't as worried about resale value, and I was going to make a comment asking about how often Brits move compared with Americans.

[@debbieshrubb1222]

I live in the UK. Whether you are in a quiet area depends on the area. There are many wonderful things about the UK partly because of the variety and diversity.

[@elainebeard2922]

Why can’t they build one of the smaller Temple like they have in Australia The work inside is the same.Itssll about, showing off ,and arrogance is going to do the image of the church. No favours ,🎉

[@hollyjohnson2894]

I think Peter is spot on that there is a lot behind the fact that these temples are not going to be prefabricated and it's too hard or expensive to change that process. Someone needs to follow that money

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@@hollyjohnson2894 quiet pretender.

[@ericredd5590]

They certainly have failed in Texas. However, they may still sue and get the “this” temple built like the lawyer threatened.

[@robertputnam6324]

The church will put folks on the council and vote it in in 10 years

[@melissar2943]

I think its amazing that in both Kirtland and Nauvoo the saints were persecuted for encroaching on the rights of the people who were already there. All these years later its still the same thing. "God told us it's ours so its ours."

[@claudemelancon5039]

Look at the locations for the Washington DC and Atlanta GA temples. 😊

[@alamoclayton0306]

The name issue really does bug Texans. Don't mess with the names of our cities. But keep in mind that the church doesn't mind changing or confusing the names of Elijah and Elias.

[@wendymerrillperry9699]

Brilliant comment about America rights. American hubris. LDS hubris

[@RyannJoyRule]

I need to see you sponsored by Jamie Dodgers

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

😂😂😂

[@dddavis1164]

Keep filibustering Peter! Love your comments!

[@naomifarrell6014]

Great job

[@spencerlercher4059]

Hi Nemo, I would like to apologize for not defending your position on the Murph's podcast. I made this remark within the video comments "Honestly, the hyer-fixation on steeples is driving me nuts. It didn't start with Nemo. He quoted Elder Bednar that mentioned that there are no such things as small temples because it is about the ordinances. Then, he quoted President Nelson about the importance of ordinances. Obviously, now he thinks the symbolism of the size of the temple is worth the possibility of a lawsuit. Nemo went through the list of temples with varying heights, and some of them are lower because they don't have steeples. Nemo's point was that the temple's height religious symbolism wasn't church doctrine, but the church is now claiming it as such. I agree with his argument. I have to apologize to Nemo for not mentioning this on the podcast. It seems like this hyper-fixation about steeples is coming from supporters of the church's argument. Fairview rejected the overall size of the temple."

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Thanks for sharing this, I appreciate it!

[@misskitteecatz]

I always look forward to Peter being on😂

[@Darkone0899]

Ahhh yesss religous bigotry at its finest 😂 Great job guys. Acceptance is the first step.

[@iffyangel3380]

THE CHURCH HAS FAILED NEMO!!! End of story! 😢

[@KrystalBailey-bn5ke]

Preach it Brother, the LDS church has gotten pretty bad. Like how dare they try to force their beliefs, if you don't believe will procicute you, besides why would a community want a building built that they are not allowed to enter in and all its glory?

[@americanmanstan2381]

Why not build across town you ask? Because go to any temple town USA, and they're built right next to the Stake Center, which is where 651 E Stacy Rd, Fairview, TX is. So ya - the church will go to the matt on this one.

[@helenr4300]

would love a talk through the Sutton Colefield/ Brum sight. 'multipurpose building' has accommodation - is that for missionaries based at temple? and some posher ones for the more important. And the temple floor plan seems to be half changing rooms... Would love to have a talk through what will happen where. Is contemplation the celestial room? Instruction = endowment?

[@hanako4475]

There's going to be a bunch of giant white bar & grills one day, but *not* in Fairview! 🎉

[@debatosis]

Sorry app pic idea won’t load

[@monyetgoblog7038]

When you don't know who to sue just ask yourself 'Who Would Jesus Sue?'

[@wendymerrillperry9699]

The tiny little Dallas temple. Hardly a comparison

[@padfootdoggy]

Hey doing a call for any active mormon who could pull up if the VEGAS temple is always full? I just found out they are trying to build another here is Vegas and this is a VERY mormon city (odd I thought so too but not the more I learn of the church) and I think city council let it go cause no one knew about it till the news on this temple came out. Need help to see if the #'s match when they say it's "Needed"

[@medeekdesign]

I prefer McVities over the Jamie Dodgers, but to each there own.

[@guytoe]

Too bad! Those thick temple walls could provide a lot of fallout protection when Biden's button gets pushed.

[@debbieshrubb1222]

Thanks for your inane contribution.

[@daveorgill3068]

Things will work out in time and good will come from the struggle.

[@debbieshrubb1222]

Peter has a very sanitised view of Britishness. (Pointing out we are currently plagued by right wing race riots).

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Great point on the race riots, we aren’t perfect by any means

[@sdfotodude]

The Mormon church is failing everywhere but the stock market

[@bodytrainer1crane730]

💙💙💙💙💙

[@eleesab4883]

Asking at the beginning of this steam, before the verdict, is a recommended flavor of jammie dodgers to experience them in their greatness?

[@marebear6727]

You know, it is funny about this. Is that this temple is such a big deal & the LDS Mormons are calling it "THE" Lords House! Does this mean that the others... 🤔 🤭ARENT!? 😂😂😂

[@nabork1575]

If the church does sew ie there a way that caring non mormans could help the fairview council with costs ?

[@jeansoares4653]

Seria legal pensar em ter tradução do áudio em português

[@Englishbob1955]

Nemo, you have ignored UK building laws that can override community and parish laws and enforce the building of houses by reference to the government. Indeed, the current labour government have said they want to build 320,000 houses in the UK including green and grey belt land. So to state pushback by local, civil and parish councils is erroneous

[@debbieshrubb1222]

This has been happening prior to the election of the current government. We live in a largely agricultural area and despite objections to planning for projects where there is no infrastructure the large building companies keep submitting applications that county councils haven't the money to object to.

[@adrianpintea9675]

Peter doesn't face any consequences for his fact-less opinionated rants so he keeps being rude to the host and guests. But I also blame Nemo for it.

[@lindylund280]

Bullying! Bully Mormons.