Has The United Methodist Church Changed Its Basic Beliefs?

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Traditional Methodist Voices of Oklahoma

Traditional Methodist Voices of Oklahoma

Күн бұрын

The #StayUMC & #BeUMC proponents insist that the doctrine and basic beliefs of the United Methodist Church have not changed. On paper they are correct, the doctrines of the church have in fact not changed, but does it matter what the official stance of the UMC is on paper if they have clergy that teach the opposite?

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@robertwynn5844
@robertwynn5844 Жыл бұрын
When the leaders of the denomination (bishops), allow things that go against our BOD AND God's word I would say yes.
@joer5627
@joer5627 Жыл бұрын
Bishops for decades have chosen to ignore the Book of NonDiscipline and Holy Scripture. It is past time to go!
@July.4.1776
@July.4.1776 Жыл бұрын
The rural churches around us are switching to the global Methodist church a more traditional church or are leaving to become nondenominational. They have had enough of this crazy crap.
@kennethsanders1694
@kennethsanders1694 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. The groundswell to physically separate this denomination which has been spiritually separated for years is growing. My prayers for each member of the UMC is that they will seek truth, repent and follow the inspired word of God. Holy Spirit will lead each of us to Jesus. He is the way, the truth and the life. Only through Him will we be truly united. Prayers for all.
@davidodell6608
@davidodell6608 Жыл бұрын
Very well said. Thank you, and God bless you.
@beezneez2056
@beezneez2056 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining this.
@JoeHinojosa-bd9hu
@JoeHinojosa-bd9hu Жыл бұрын
"Love not the world, neither the things of the world, ..,.......'
@brownro214
@brownro214 Жыл бұрын
Excellent summation of the issues facing the UMC. I hope the entire congregation got up and walked on the pastor preaching the Bible is not God's Word.
@rolfeliason5950
@rolfeliason5950 Жыл бұрын
Isaiah 40:8 says it all. So does II Timothy 3:16. Tampering with God's Holy Word is a very serious business. Revelations 22: 18 & 19 shows those that do will not make heaven.
@Ammo08
@Ammo08 Жыл бұрын
I'm not Methodist, but many of my friends and family are. The problems in the church are tearing them apart.
@jpwministries
@jpwministries 2 ай бұрын
you know that mainline churches have rural churches that are more moderate or conservative; and more of the churches in the cities in larger urban areas are more liberal. This is the same with the Disciples of Christ, PCUSA, Episcopal, and ELCA denominations.
@brucedavenport7016
@brucedavenport7016 2 ай бұрын
It certainly has now!
@bobbybailey4623
@bobbybailey4623 2 ай бұрын
It’s normal for churches. They change with time. There’s never an absolute in their beliefs.
@johnbreitmeier3268
@johnbreitmeier3268 2 ай бұрын
Buddy all of this has been openly discussed in UMC official literature for over 50 years. It is also clear in the course catalogs of UMC seminaries for the same time. I saw it as a 20 YO and walked away from the sinful heresy. What has taken you so long to see this??
@toddmiller7876
@toddmiller7876 Ай бұрын
Of course not. They just realized there are other sins God hates just as much, and most of them are never discussed by the other good sinners in church. Many on the church just got tired of the hypocracey, and the hate.
@jameshoward5324
@jameshoward5324 Жыл бұрын
I am not Methodist but many of my friends are in Methodist ministry and it saddens me to watch what your church is going through. Fundamentalists is a dead end, but mindlessly following every liberal biblical trend is equally destructive. We must understand that faith always has been and always will exist in a certain historical context. Most who question core beliefs do so for their own purposes, not because they have a desire to know the truth. I pray that all may find the peace of God that is beyond all understanding.
@mcconn746
@mcconn746 Жыл бұрын
We will not know what they will do until the next Conference.
@robertsandlin9811
@robertsandlin9811 Жыл бұрын
What Tom is describing is why I left the United Methodist Church 40 years ago.
@mcconn746
@mcconn746 Жыл бұрын
@@robertsandlin9811 I suspect it will be the United Methodist Cult after the conservative Churches leave. I hope I am wrong.
@brownro214
@brownro214 Жыл бұрын
If and when they have one. By the time they do get around to another General Conference, enough of the traditional congregations will have left that those remaining will have enough votes to change the Book of Discipline so that homosexual behavior will no longer be considered a sin by the UMC. The claim that church doctrine hasn't changed will be confirmed as a lie and more congregations will leave including most if not all of the congregations in Africa. The UMC will be left a dying shell of its former self.
@revelinapascua8080
@revelinapascua8080 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion there will be no more Gen Con to convene,
@wanda520
@wanda520 29 күн бұрын
Olivetto needs a sinless Savior. So do we all. That’s Biblical. Take it or leave it.
@JesusChristFollower353
@JesusChristFollower353 11 ай бұрын
This can motivate Christians to be useful much for chores, work, and college. Christian world domination. New American Standard Bible (NASB) Mark 9:33 (V)They came to Capernaum; and when He was in (W)the house, He began to question them, "What were you discussing on the way?" . Mark 9:34 But they kept silent, for on the way (X)they had discussed with one another which of them was the greatest. . Mark 9:35 Sitting down, He called the twelve and said to them, "(Y)If anyone wants to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all."
@edbak8452
@edbak8452 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like it
@edbak8452
@edbak8452 Жыл бұрын
JUST USE THE BIBLE, PERIOD! END OF ARGUMENT. AMEN.
@irvinemurombedzi9628
@irvinemurombedzi9628 Жыл бұрын
Yes it has brazenly changed its beliefs because of carnalism. I am quitting this God forsaken church. I will canvass vigorously for it to be banned in my country.
@hyungyongchoi1718
@hyungyongchoi1718 2 ай бұрын
Still remaining in the UMC? 😂😂😂😂 I am a part of the GMC now! Don't be fooled by false prophets.
@earlehutchison1404
@earlehutchison1404 2 ай бұрын
They do not follow the book of discipline. They do not believe in the Methodist Church.
@daledonnell8155
@daledonnell8155 2 ай бұрын
Nope. They left God years ago.
@derykdavid2849
@derykdavid2849 Жыл бұрын
You are all listening to just your voice in your echo chamber. Remember Christ came for ALL sinners. all created in His image!
@dancall6226
@dancall6226 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for recording your spiritual bigotry for all to see. Let us know when you find that Jesus was Jewish and that he didn’t actually write the Bible. Hope your ideas work out for you but, honestly, I’m skeptical. Good luck!
@wanda520
@wanda520 29 күн бұрын
What is your point? I guess you disagree with what he said.
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