Hasbro HeroQuest Crowdfunding Campaign Launches on HasLab | North America (U.S. & Canada) Only

[@veekleek7535]

Such a shame. Hope Europe and Australia (so the famous Bard can get a copy to crackingly unbox) get a release in the future

[@sudofranz]

The Bard is a legend and deserves this! His videos about Hero Quest are legendary!

[@NTJedi]

All depends on the success in the USA... if this game is a huge success than Europe and Australia will see versions created as well.

[@Mr_Mooo]

BardicBroadcasts, our Heroquest champion discussed what they would get wrong with this, and he nailed it right on the head. Not worth $100 bucks if you still have the original.

[@superspecky4eyes]

Now I'm kicking myself for donating my copy to charity 20 years ago. Hopefully someone, somewhere is having fun with it.

[@StefSis]

Yeah I'll just keep expanding my original games with 3d prints and quests from YeOldeInn. And some day I hope to get more of the original expansions too.

[@peterward2275]

Exactly. Where's the muscularity?

[@JayAndNightASMR]

Kinda sucks considering people all over Europe love the game too. Especially when bigger hobbist like Squidmar did videos on it.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

The game launched in the UK, so excluding that market does suck. Still, it is what it is.

[@Blayze]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Oh well, time for Plan B; after all, can't lose sales for a product you refuse to offer.

[@LeeONardo]

Slapping fans in the face not allowing them to get in on it. I can see the rest of the world potentially getting this eventually but we will not have the extras. Bad, bad move.

[@Blayze]

None of the good stuff Hasbro do has made it to their UK website yet; it's all Marvel and Barbie and shit. We'll never get this officially.

[@jamesaleman]

Do you have American friends that will buy it for you and ship it your way? I recently discovered Arcadia quest and now I am paying inflated prices a few years later to get kickstarted gear....I might have to stock up on some of these Heroquest offers if they will let us buy more than one seems like there is a global market for it.

[@francopanigaia2425]

@@jamesaleman scalpers are all over it already. you can join the club. I am disgusted. For as much as I'd like one I will not be purchasing one off ebay at double price. I hope they suffocate in the Ocean of Monopoly BS variants that they flood the markets with, worldwide. shame on you, Hasbro.

[@CatSamurai99]

The extras seem lackluster anyways.

[@dethkknight]

Once again America forgot that there is a rest of the world. As a Dad wanting to share this experience with my kids I had my credit card out and ready then realised as an Australian it wouldn’t be able to get it delivered I was a little disappointed.

[@damiancutler9537]

@dethkknight, I did the exact same thing!!!!! :(

[@geebutts2835]

Identical situation mate. Farkem

[@crazyhudson]

Trying to capitalize on the whole KS generation... but in really wrong way. So glad I backed AltarQuest, the update to Hero Quest we ALL deserve.

[@1AngelAlita]

Agreed. Altar Quest will be better.

[@k.maillot1318]

Would've bought it, but my hopes are on Warhammer Quest now.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

The new Quest series has provided countless hours of enjoyment for me. I'm looking forward to see what they have planned next for it.

[@MelvLee]

Really hope the next instalment will including something similar to the classic Roleplay book. Some of the Blackstone Fortress materials seems to be going that direction but falling short of truly replicating the Roleplay book magic

[@k.maillot1318]

@@MelvLee that would really be awesome.

[@tomparmenter8665]

Blackstone fortress seems to be a huge success. So yubi's (fingers) crossed!

[@tomparmenter8665]

Why do Hasbro need to crawled fund they have everything they need to mass produce the game.

[@thewatched8280]

I do like how the bonus characters are alternate versions of the base heroes. So that way you can have whatever you want going into the dungeon.

[@junesoler]

You can print those out your self. Plenty of STL files out there to make this happen. Also there are several HQ fan sites that have alternate classes to print.

[@thewatched8280]

June Soler Aye. I just like there is the official option to play as dude/lady in any class.

[@junesoler]

@@thewatched8280 I get it, thats why they consider part of the higher sell value. But the books are gender neutral and only use terms like 'elf' 'and 'wizard', you can literally make them whatever race/gender you want by just placing different mini on the board. I have 5he originals so I just dont want folks to get fleeced by this cashgrab if Ican help it, I'll try provide options some folks haven't thought of.

[@peterchave560]

Geez Hasbro shot themselves in the foot. Glad I own an original version.

[@stewartleslie3292]

Does it have the original price on the back? I'm pretty sure it's nowhere near $100.

[@technosaurusarcanex3247]

@@stewartleslie3292 HeroQuest was originally $30 in the USA. But that was back in the 80s, good luck finding it for $100 fully complete on ebay.

[@stewartleslie3292]

@@technosaurusarcanex3247 The original being sold on Ebay is a different story. 1st edition Lord of the Rings went for insane money on Ebay when the films were made. But the publishers didn't do another run of it and charged the same price they did on Ebay.

[@davidnurse5930]

I was there when the countdown finished and got as far as putting my address in, until I couldn't. Very sad Hasbro did this.

[@dalelewis625]

Gutted!! I would have bought that too!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Looks like it's back to looking for a time machine for us, Old Chap.

[@dalelewis625]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Maybe I could renovate the copy I have in the cupboard?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Let's face it. That one's better.

[@dalelewis625]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring yea those models just arnt the same. I want skeletons holding scythes on square bases :)

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

​@@dalelewis625 And a grumpy fimir shouting "get off my lawn."

[@DJChipsandGarlic]

hasbro are worth how much? and they crowd fund games?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I think they crowdfund the things they think are niche appeal (and considering how big Hasbro is, I think they consider a lot of things as niche).

[@MentatOfDune]

It's also a way to generate and maintain hype for a game. You see companies like CMON do the same on Kickstarter.

[@Ayanami0001]

You can play a pretty fun game of Heroquest on Tabletop Simulator.

[@LeeroyPorkins]

THE BEST THING ABOUT HEROQUEST IS THAT IT'S THE BEST NEWS OF 2020!

[@nanodave1980]

Very sad, I think they now lost a very big customer base really when you think about it. They'll leave a salty taste in everybody's mouth and they probably if had tried to get it over here people went back then. I think I'll stick with old faithful.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah, I think a lot of people are very unhappy right now.

[@raphaelperry8159]

Some people are out because they ... live in the country where the game was originally released in the first place.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah, it's a weird situation.

[@adrienboyeldieu3871]

I'm pretty sure Gamezone still has the European trademark for heroquest, and that's why we're not getting a look in on this.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Hasbro UK has the trademark in the UK until 2025. Don't know about other territories. I don't recall Gamezone ever being able to prove they had any rights to make a HeroQuest game. As I understand it, that's still a hotly contested subject.

[@liamfishwick2943]

I'll save my moneys for 40k warhammer quest mark2

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I am sure we will get one. Maybe not this year, though.

[@liamfishwick2943]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring agreed.

[@YT0091]

In Hasbro's previous crowdfunding of Jabba's Sail Barge, they did in fact make it available outside North America. However they did this when the product was ready ship and not on pre-order. Don't lose faith, they may still come through for you. Otherwise I'm sure someone will help you out at-cost to get you one.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I heard they offered a limited number (maybe 1,000?) that were left over from the production run from the campaign. If they offer some paltry amount of HeroQuest to the rest of the world that sells out in seconds they're just going to cause fresh upset next year!

[@aidandegg4176]

It looks pretty great and have happy memories of it as a kid - sad face for the fact it's currently US and Canada only

[@Aenarion28]

Heroquest introduced me to miniatures and Warhammer. While great news I am disappointed about the direction of the design being 1. No Chaos Warriors 2. Fimir replaced with Deep Ones.. Im sorry...Abominations. 3. The Boyz looking like they came out of WOW. I'm worried if they decide to remake Battlemasters

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I feel it lacks something without Games Workshop's involvement, but that's another nostalgia thing on my part. I think they did a reasonable job without have to worry about licensing the elements they don't own. But yeah, really not a fan of those orcs.

[@andystiles7523]

I will get it but I still think they could of did better makeing a really good digital version of it and then selling worldwide since we are now in a digital age i mean its a lot harder these days to play a board game then a video game

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

As someone who plays and paints board games and miniatures games every day, and who runs a boardgame channel, I obviously can't really agree with you, but I do hope you enjoy the board game when you get it! Thanks for watching.

[@christopheraaron1255]

I'm really disappointed in this. There's a special place in hell for established companies that use Kickstarter campaigns instead of sourcing proper investment. This campaign means they don't believe in the product or the project, they will not be investing in or supporting the product going forward and they think the consumer is a chump.

[@svenv460]

Agree, I'm well annoyed that the worlds 4th biggest game/toy maker even uses crowdfunding platforms to make a boardgame. I mean they easily have the funds, I imagined crowdfunding was for indy or starting manufacturers. The regional thing makes it even worse :s

[@Alittlefruitgoesalongway]

More reason why you shouldn't support Hasbro

[@stepansraka3608]

At least Games Workshop has the decency to avoid using crowdfunding for its projects. And look how it's working out for them, just compare GW stock prices to that of penny pinching Hasbro.

[@alcovitch]

The worst is this isn't even Kickstarter, it's the crappy BS Hasbro knockoff Haslabs or whatever because they don't want to give a cut to KS. Typical big corp logic.

[@NTJedi]

@@alcovitch So if you owned a company you would choose to give 10% of all earnings to KickStarter which means higher prices for the customer as compared to using your own web servers??

[@Kaluvin]

Look up what local retailers offered the Haslab Sentinel, Unicron or Sail Barge. I expect a new Warhammer Quest once The Old World is out but I don't expect the full set of furniture as the 1995 Warhammer Quest did not have them.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I think Games Workshop have left the original Warhammer Quest design in the past. The new Warhammer Quest series is so much better. But yes, I wouldn't be surprised if they did a version in the Old World once they have fully revived that universe. I just think it will have the modern rules.

[@GPlewright]

Bard called a number of the changes accurately in his video. Did he have inside information?

[@yodaflyz]

As an American fan with a vintage board myself, I'm crying nostalgia tears & saying "Shut up & take my money". This is one of them things I dreamed about that I thought would never happen. At the same time I hope they bring this to other places in the world or people import these in droves once they hit shelves because everyone deserves a chance to own Hero Quest & the more $ this prints the better. Once this hits retail, I'll likely buy extra copies of the core game for various family members.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Let's hope it goes to retail.

[@memojointfriend]

hey, could you buy an extra copy and then send it to me in italy? ; )

[@MentatOfDune]

This is a tough one. Will be expensive to get this to Ireland. $190 to 'AddressPal' reshipper in New Jersey (AnPost's (Irish national post service) reshipping solution). Then €30 for AddressPal service (5 to 10kg) and then maybe some additional import charges. That's still probably cheaper than buying it in Canada by Hasbro's prices. :( Would have backed an EU friendly campaign, no question.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It becomes a very expensive game very quickly. I am sure it will be worth it to some people.

[@bt3779]

I think the issues with Europe are related to licensing and the Italian company that claims rights there. Interested but have to see Canadian shipping. May have to hope a retail release is followed up with.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

At the very least Hasbro UK owns the trademark in the UK, and Hasbro also owns the trademark in other territories. They have even acquired the name from Chaosium recently. When you say Italian company do you mean the Spanish company Gamezone? They have a trademark for "HeroQuest Classic."

[@DavidGreen_au]

I thought the furniture looks a little bland compared to the original. The Cardboard and Plastic may not be as durable as full Plastic, but at least it was manufactured in colour, and durable enough despite the decades from experience. I haven't done an accurate inventory, but it would seem that the number of figures shipping with the base set are less than the original as well. It came across as over-priced based on content, almost like one was paying prototyping for each set. Shipping does not have to be so expensive either; Chaosium have shown that by shipping in bulk to international Distribution Centres.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

The new edition has the same composition and quantity of enemies. It actually has more miniatures because of alter gender heroes, Ragnar, and other extras. I liked the original furniture, but I understand the move to full plastic. Dungeon Saga did full plastic furniture and it's really nice. Overall, I think they've done a pretty nice job, it's just a pity they haven't made more effort to make it available to a wider audience. I think it probably is a touch expensive as well, and I'm not sure they've said what kind of miniature quality it will be yet.

[@DavidGreen_au]

I just checked off my old set, and yes, you are right, the figure set is equivalent. I've had my fully expanded set since it was issued, and I had forgotten how much was in the base set. I cannot disagree with some others though, that if you own the original sets, this re-issue does not bring enough added value to justify its price, distribution jurisdiction aside. Replacing a Fimir with a Fish is just too little to justify the expense.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

David Green I think for those people who have the original US version there isn’t much point getting this unless you prefer the art direction. The funny thing is, the UK version was different to the US version so there’s actually a greater incentive for UK residents to order it even if they already have a copy!

[@blackguard5134]

Disappointing. Oh well, I have the original so I can start my own remake with modern models! Might be time to get a 3d printer.

[@StefSis]

Yes! Do it. There's loads of great additions to your HeroQuest game on YeOldeInn :)

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

There are quite a few modellers on myminifactory and thingiverse that do some really fantastic scuplts of the original minis (some are based on the box art of the box art as well as the actual minis), which - in the ones I've tried - have come out really well on my Elegoo Mars.

[@Darthvegeta8000]

Yeah was dissapointed to see we wouldn't get a release with extras or even a release.

[@xekantoine2479]

I'm from Belgium and it's been years I wanted that happens! I was hoping to get it for this christmas...

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's a shame. The scheduled launch isn't until the end of next year anyway - one of the problems with a crowdfunding campaign.

[@Phsstpok]

My thoughts? "Oh, nice, maybe... oh, nevermind, us only." ... I would be interested from a nostalgic point of view. I actually have a old beaten edition on my shelf. I recently played a game with a friend for old games sake and we must agree with "inside the box" - it didn't age well. Back in the days it was one of a kind, now it has some serious competion and its main asset would be "being heroquest". I probably would have backed it too, but when they put up such a barrier in front of me, my interests evaporates quickly. There are a lot of nice fish in the waters I can reach... so... good luck to you Hasbro and have fun US! :)

[@gagecrawley6223]

Don’t lose hope. I’m sure Heroquest will be available to Europe. But aside from that, I love the look of this game, and am really glad to see it get a revival! I have the original Heroquest, but I couldn’t find the time to play it. Mostly because I think it’s incomplete. Missing the Broad Sword card, that is. Anyway, I’m super excited!

[@BristlyStranger]

My friends wife is living in America atm. Think we're going to buy it between us (to get the higher tier) and she's going to bring it back at some point. Shame no UK/the rest of the world release, such an iconic game.

[@shanerogerson3325]

It's a shame it us and Canada only but life goes on and there will be Something else around the corner

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I had predicted it, so it wasn't a massive surprise.

[@shaunmiyagi]

Zavvi have the exclusivity in UK and are taking pre orders on the mythic tier £149.99

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yes this is an old video. I have posted newer videos about availability through Zavvi.

[@shaunmiyagi]

I noticed that this was an older video just after I had posted my comment 😳 apologies.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@shaunmiyagi No need to apologise. I appreciate you wanting to share the info to help others. Are you grabbing a copy?

[@shaunmiyagi]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring for sure. I pre ordered my copy yesterday!

[@JohnnyLeyenda]

As someone living in South Americait really sucks not being able to: 1) Support this kind of project, that seems to be a good one in terms of content and nostalgia. 2) Being able to get it easily at all. Of course I can try importing it from Amazon and whatnot but costs would be high and I'd miss out on the exclusives. It's like they don't really want more new people playing the game, only the nostalgic fans! A shame truly, but at the same time, I still think $100 is a bit steep.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's a shame. I quite like the treatment they've given it. Not those orcs though.

[@JohnnyLeyenda]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I may be speaking from frustration, but when something like Gloomhaven was also $100 in its campaign and shipping was worldwide, an cheaper, for a game made by a smaller team and from a new IP, it really makes me wonder if Hasbro took a look at the market recently. Seems to be leeching off pure nostalgia sadly...I did like the models mostly.

[@ashleysmith640]

Now 37 loved this as a kid want it here 😊😊😊

[@spacemike1746]

As an owner of the original set, I was hoping for something a little different. There doesn’t seem to be much reason to buy it if you already on the original. Great for people who don’t have it I suppose

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah, I think if you have a nice copy of the original it's probably not worth it.

[@lochmoigh1]

For those outside the US, with the pandemic shipping may be a nightmare for any company. I have no idea if this is their logic, but it is a consideration.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

This is just how they handle shipping for HasLab campaigns. The game doesn't even ship until late 2021.

[@lochmoigh1]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I looked and could not find the ship date, who knows, with the amount they have raised they can produce additional copies.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@lochmoigh1 It's stated at the end of the video. "Orders are estimated to ship Fall 2021."

[@RobSmith-dm7gj]

Very much agree, so disappointing that Hasbro has failed to recognise the global appeal of this.

[@ericcook8254]

Yeah I'm American and believe it's a stupid move for them to not have it world wide. They are not providing free shipping so they can't claim that route. I've seen a few Canadians complain about the $130 shipping charge. It's roughly $30 here in the states for the mythic version. So it may be the price for shipping abroad is so unreasonable they are not even bothering with the backlash.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Apparently Canadian shipping has been brought in line with US shipping now, which is good news. But yeah, I think they just don't want to be bothered with international shipping. I read that when they did the Star Wars sail barge, they had about 1,000 left after the production run so they sold them direct, and used eBay's Global Shipping Service to fulfill!

[@punkrockjazzstudio]

looks like this campaign will be funded in 24 hrs.If the reception is high enough, They say it will arrive in stores next year, I assume worldwide.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm not prepared to make that assumption myself. I'll just wait and see.

[@alcovitch]

No, apparently they only have the rights to sell it in US and Canada. Games Workshop has the rights to sell HeroQuest in Europe.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@alcovitch Games Workshop don't have the rights to HeroQuest, and in the UK Hasbro UK has the trademark until 2025. There may be issues in some other territories, but I don't know where this has come from that Hasbro doesn't have the rights to sell outside of America and Canada as I haven't seen an official statement to that effect.

[@alcovitch]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Donno it's all over the Heroquest forum on BGG.

[@charlesvanneste2834]

I bet it has to do with licensing and someone in Europe owns rights that the American group does not. Tolkien had a similar issue with his books. I am a little upset that the new addition does not have the GW feel, but one can always chuck out the models you don't like!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

A lot of people are assuming that, but the assumption doesn't really take into account that previous HasLab campaigns have been the same (which was how I was able to predict this situation before the campaign started). Furthermore, Hasbro UK owns the trademark to HeroQuest in the UK at least, so licensing doesn't explain why they haven't made it available here. While there may be a few areas where licensing is murkier, I genuinely think that for the most part they just don't want to deal with international shipping and payments.

[@rustycuyler6026]

$150 shipping for mythic to Ontario.. $130 for Heroic..

[@jamesaleman]

I'm in the middle of the US and they want $30 shipping for each. (I tested 1 and the maximum quantity of 5 and the shipping was 30 and 150) Shipping costs should be less if you buy more, silly hasbro now I will buy zero....and wait for free shipping on Amazon in a couple of years.

[@CarlosRodriguez-dd4sb]

Perhaps some kind folks in US can order extras and ship to friends in other places

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I am sure some people will. It's a big commitment to accept though, considering the game is going to be over a year in production, and then you have to worry about reshipping it all safely.

[@D4CR33P3R]

I'm so pysched for this , ordered 3 mythic copies. I must have enough boards for gravity land!

[@jamesi188]

I’m in the Uk and can’t buy it via the hasbro pulse page. Anyone in the US have an idea of how to get some sent over here? Will it open up to other regions after it reaches its target? It’s already 75% done and it’s only been going 9 hrs! 😱😁

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm not expecting it to open to other regions, or even to go to retail. But that's a gut feeling. The campaign is running for 45 days so I will be keeping an eye on it and will post any significant change to availability.

[@paulbaker5256]

I was genuinely intrigued and looking forward to this, but then I saw that it's not being made available outside North America. If they genuinely don't want my money, I'll just stick to enjoying my original copy, bought for me by my parents in 1990. On the bright side, Hasbro have left the door wide open for GW (or anyone else) to come up with a pick up and play dungeon crawler for the rest of the world.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's a shame, but at least you have your original copy. I think Dungeon Saga is a really good pick up and play dungeon crawler, and it feels like a spiritual successor to HeroQuest.

[@warface4881]

I'm getting 2! Mythic Teir. One for me and one for some unfortunate foreign guy. Massive Darkness was a kickstarter and it did well later they sold it in game shops, I got mine at a game shop.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

HasLab doesn't necessarily operate the same way as Kickstarter. I'm not sure any of their previous crowdfunding products went to retail (which isn't to say HeroQuest won't, of course). Happy to hear you got yourself (and someone else) a copy.

[@carlmayne3519]

I just can't believe i got excited over a website that hinted at a promise of Heroquest, only to discover it's not available in the original country it was released in ... They've lost out on millions ... maybe even tens or hundreds of millions ... I was getting ready to back it then saw the US / Canada .. now I don't know I'll even bother if they release it anywhere else ... just sad ...

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Although I predicted it, I really think they should have announced from the start that only certain territories would be eligible. Archon and CMoN have both announced He-Man games and have been clear from the start that their agreements mean the games are only accessible to certain countries.

[@seanbyrne5313]

If your disappointed that it's not in Europe, ask GW about that, not Hasbro, they are the European publisher for the licence.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Hasbro UK owns the trademark in the UK. Games Workshop don't have any rights to it. The reason they aren't offering it outside of North America is because HasLab never offers anything outside of North America. It's in their terms of service for every project. Sometimes they find ways to get around this, like finding a partner in another country like Zavvi.

[@MiniatureMasterClass]

Shipping to Canada is like $150 US dollars which is INSANE.

[@jackspinoza]

From some of the best in 80s fantasy art to this kind of World of Warcraft style isn't a good change in my opinion. The original minis were like classy colour-coded counters (kind of referenced in Space Hulk and Blackstone Fortress) these new ones are just digital designed 3d sculpts. Definitely one for the American audience. I do like the little lady barbarian though.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I was never going to like it as much as the original, but I do like what they've done.

[@kuromadoshi]

What about shipping forwarding services?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Numerous people have suggested this solution in the comments. I've never used such a service, but how would it work when you're ordering a product that may not ship for a year or more? Do you have to pay to hold the virtual address open all that time? Surely it must generate a lot of extra costs as well.

[@kuromadoshi]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring You don't have to pay to hold the virtual address. When they receive the package you can choose shipping method and the cost will vary according to package weight and dimensions. Of course it'll cost a little bit more, but I guess it's better than not having any option. I hope it'll work for me...

[@mikolajwitkowski8093]

I do hope the did something with the rules. The US only is disappointing but I wonder if it is going to be KS exclusive? If yes that is more disappointing. On the side, homage said with h sounds really weird. ☺️

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I honestly don't expect it to go to retail, but we shall see.

[@c3rber3s00]

Shipping to Canada 130 :( Why is it so high? I've had games from kickstarter that weighed a ton and the shipping was no where near anything like this.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's pretty crazy. I wonder if they will adjust it as the campaign goes on.

[@cptmachine]

Here in the UK, the home of Heroquest we’ll wait to see if it arrives in the FLGS. I’d imagine the demand for this will cause it to be mass produced.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm not that optimistic. Also, if it does turn out they aren't offering this outside of America and Canada because of rights issues (as many people are saying), then it probably wouldn't turn up in the UK even then.

[@scott238colin]

I’m in the uk. I backed it and used a reshipping company. I’ll be interested to see if it works. I used reship in case you were wonder

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Hope it works out for you.

[@tigerpawdesigns]

Sounds like a damp squib for starters. Maybe Hasbro will see that not many are pledging for it and change tack? I had hero quest and the expansions when it first came out but they got thrown away when clearing out my attic. It was one of the first dungeon crawls where my whole family played and they all liked playing it which is strange for my family LOL.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Will have to wait and see how it plays out, I guess. I'm not losing any sleep over it.

[@Fastwinstondoom]

It's almost at a million already after just one day.

[@Jareth21]

Yup, went to back it until I got to the shipping. All in it was almost $400 Cdn. Just couldn't justify the price. Seriously disappointed.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I can't see how they're justifying that shipping.

[@TitchmarshVillage]

Just be patient. I don’t doubt a European version will be available in due course.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I think if they would or could do it, then that option would already be there. I'm not going to hold my breath until I hear an official announcement from Hasbro on it. Time will tell.

[@D1-Games]

I am assuming the America only crowdfunding launch has everything to do with the convoluted IP mess around our beloved game. Remember the 25th Anniversary edition out of Spain? I think Hasbro only has the rights for distribution in the US and Canada, and definitely NOT Europe. They have also cunningly replaced any GW IP with other imagery, and commissioned artists to replace the original artwork too. The fact they're crowdfunding possibly means it's them testing the waters, or maybe it's a pet project of some designer they don't want to invest in. But seeing the artwork and miniature renders, I'd say they're already committed to the project. A shame really; I love HQ, and would have jumped on this like a Chaos Warrior on a wounded Elf...

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

They obviously don't have any rights to GW intellectual property, that's never been in dispute. However, Hasbro has the trademark for HeroQuest in the UK at least, and people are overlooking that this is how they run all of their HasLab projects. I'm pretty sure they just don't want to deal with international customers.

[@TheDragonSlayerShow]

I thought about it but I think I'm gonna just buy one of the D&D games instead... They're like $60 cheaper and you get a ton of mini's to re-use for D&D campaigns.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm a big fan of the D&D games. I have Castle Ravenloft, Wrath of Ashardalon, and Legend of Drizzt. The miniatures end up in D&D proper and Rangers of Shadow Deep as well.

[@TheDragonSlayerShow]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Exactly. If a more affordable retail release does happen, I'll definitely get a copy of HeroQuest. If not... I won't be too sour about missing out on this experience.

[@christopheraaron1255]

Oh! I'd forgotten that it wasn't outside of North America. Hasbro are ridiculously myopic when it comes to stuff like this.

[@marcinw2154]

This is sad. But for me is like space Marine adventures i would buy it, but if they dont want to sell it in my country ... Well good job, my money will go to another company. I sometimes think that i shoud thanks companies like GW for theirs ideas, becouse thanks for it i now have large armies for Flames of war and Team yankee ;) And not buing theirs products i can enjoy f. e. Death may Die :)

[@danewiskow3680]

I really want it, but the base game is way too expensive. Gloomhaven is like the same price and it’s even bigger than HeroQuest. Hopefully, the base retail price will drop at a more reasonable price.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm not even going to assume a retail release at this point. They haven't been very clear on their intentions so far.

[@raymondusher7672]

this sucks if they try and release it in Europe later in the year at a higher price they can get stuffed, Im in the uk and want to pre order it especially at that price, same thing Gw is doing with blitz bowl, wish theyd just release these things world wide so everyone can get them as there is obviously demand for it

[@ClaudiosCollection]

$430 Canadian for the Mythic Tier is just way too much for a game! I truly love HeroQuest and supported the champagne but I'm in no way impressed or happy with the shipping cost. $130 shipping for a $150 game. That's pure Chaos... sorry, I meant pure Dread.

[@pcuimac]

I would rather call it a cash grab. Why would it cost that much? Sounds like Trump put a fee on top of the price?

[@glenndean6]

Even the $30 shipping in the US is a bit insane ... but nothing like Canada.

[@alcovitch]

YOu supported this scam at $430 bucks? You're a prime reason why this sort of thing happens and why Canadians have the bad reputation to bitch but pay regardless. Shame on you.

[@InF3sTeD1]

You can have it shipped to the border if you are near one which most canadians are. All the major crossings have a parcel storage location.

[@thegunslinger9544]

@@InF3sTeD1 Why, as Canadians, does that even have to happen? Reasonable shipping is not too much ask for.

[@DestroyerHivePro]

Saw it at 12:00 today. Looks good, but I find some of the art direction questionable and strongly dislike the exclusives on offer. I also feel averse pledging money to a project from a large company like Hasbro, and would rather wait for a mass market retail release, to get it cheaper on the secondary market. The gameplay is another mystery, as if it is too close to the original, it will not hold its entertainment value in the modern day of board games, and if it is too new, we don't know what to expect. Overall, I like how the project is shaping up and look forward to seeing more :)

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Looks like it's going to be pretty close to the original. Roll to move, only four stats per hero, same board layout and terrain elements, same composition of enemies, same spell decks, and the items we've seen are from the original game too. If they are crowdfunding it through HasLab, I doubt they will ever do a retail release. I hope the people who are actually able to get it are happy with it.

[@DestroyerHivePro]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring If it's not being released retail, there is more reason to buy. But the shipping costs, uncertain miniature quality, art direction and gameplay are all reasons for me not to back it. On the other hand, buying it will be a safe investment, as reselling it should be easy, but then the cost of shipping overseas will probably absorb too much of that investment to leave much of a return. I'd say it's best to pass on this one.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@DestroyerHivePro Well as they won't ship outside of America and Canada anyway, it's a pass for a lot of people unless they want to jump through hoops and work something out with someone in a territory Hasbro is serving.

[@DestroyerHivePro]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I went to place a mock order to see how much shipping would be, and they don't even ship to Quebec! Even as a Canadian, I can't get it XDXD

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@DestroyerHivePro Welcome to the club. It's not very exclusive, I'm afraid.

[@HolyMonkeyBalzzz]

Devastated. Would have paid ridiculous amounts for this.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

If you don't mind ridiculous money, you might want to look into one of the reshipping companies people keep talking about. You end up paying twice for shipping and insurances, and more handling fees, but it's an option if you're prepared to put down the extra cash.

[@crimsonsun2000]

I would have brought it, I've still got the original, but I lost the six expansions and was hoping to replace them... Sadly I like in the UK so they just stuck there fingers up at me.. So I'll leave it, I didn't want it to play anyway just because the memories I had with the game are a huge part of my childhood so I wanted to replace those expansions.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm seeing so many disappointed people. It's a shame such a cool event has been marred by the execution.

[@crimsonsun2000]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Yeah I agree, I think its crazy how they've gone about this, especially in terms of business there's a huge amount of UK/EU interest, if anything its the market most familar with the game, so it would have the most draw too.

[@JuergenQingdao]

Not so excited about the updated artwork and models (especially the monsters; the Orcs look realistic while the goblins look cartoon like) while the mechanics apparently stayed totally the same. Anyhow, not in the USA and therefore not able to get it.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Just to confirm, since I posted this video, I have posted newer videos showing the the game is now available in New Zealand (Mighty Ape), Australia (eb games), and the UK (Zavvi). Not sure if you're in any of those territories, or if your territory may open up through the rest of the campaign.

[@JuergenQingdao]

Always Board Never Boring Thank you for the reply and the information. Eventually I could get it from the UK, shipped to Central Europe. Will think about it, I still have fragments from the original game (unfortunately at one point in the past I thought it would be a good idea to salvage hero quest models for 40k conversions 🤣), eventually I‘m rather getting into something like Extended Advanced Hero Quest, for the more advanced game mechanics.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@JuergenQingdao You're welcome. I'll update the channel if I hear anything about European options. Advanced HeroQuest is a great game, and there's some excellent expanded content on the Internet for it.

[@raybordier4798]

This looks like it might fund quickly, so maybe it'll grow to reach Europe. HQ has always had a worldwide fan base.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Pretty sure it would have funded already if worldwide options had been available.

[@raybordier4798]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring totally agree. I wonder if the state of how the world played a role in their decisions. Either way, I hope it makes it outside the US for all the fans.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@raybordier4798 I don't think it was that. Previous HasLab campaigns have had the same shipping restrictions, which is why I suspected this was going to happen since I reported on it last week. It would be very nice to see it get a wider release.

[@kallegrafstrom5865]

Great vid as always 😊 Even if it comes to eu, it will be a hard pass for me as a whole. I would like to get an updated rulebook and cards. Changing the style of the minis is a no go for me. I already have it and it has got a nicely tailored foam insert from Feldherr 😊

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah, I think if you have a nice copy of the original, there isn't much to see here. At least, not from what they've shown.

[@warface4881]

Hey this dude said he went through a shipping company called RESHIP. Just saying I think he is in the U.K. saw it in another comment section.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

That was in this comment section.

[@warface4881]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I must have missed that. I hope it's a viable option.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@warface4881 I'm not sure. I've never used one of those services, but I would assume you would need to set it up when you back the game, and then pay to keep it open until the game actually delivers which could be a year or more later. With other costs like reposting, handling fees, and import fees it sounds like it could be a pricey option.

[@Ixnatifual]

The game looks great but am super disappointed I can’t back it as a European. On the other hand, given the Canadian shipping costs, the Europe shipping costs would probably stop me from buying it until they get a distribution based in Europe ready.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah, I bet their shipping to the UK would be steep.

[@nrais76]

Only in U.S. and Canada is just ludicrous. But, hey, over here a lot of us are out of luck, too: Its overpriced, and when you account for a limited funding window in a pandemic economy.... yeah this is something unfortunately I will probaly never end up buying. At least the mythic tier would be almost worth it if in the U.S., but that's not likely to be in my budget. Already several months back where I live it was expected that 1 in 4 jobs lost during the pandemic lockdown were expected to become permanent. With Congress playing politics instead of passing a relief bill, it is expected to only get worse. 14% of U.S. households cannot afford food as of two months ago. 80% of independent restaraunts are expected to permanently close. And that's just two numbers in a heap of bad news. And a limited crowd-funded board game comes out overpriced by half again. Yeah, not on my list of priorities. Sadly.

[@Kafeenuk]

I was all ready to throw all my money at the Mythic edition. Its a shame Hasbro doesn't want my English pounds.

[@CyberAdam64]

Nor my Australian Dollars. Very disappointed about that. Was excited about this until I found out about the US/Canada backers only.

[@amar2300dk]

What a letdown. Would have backed this all the way... Do anybody know if the HeroQuest 25 ANNIVERSARY will ever hit the market???

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I would be very surprised if that game ever happened after all the trouble it's faced. It was HeroQuest in name only anyway (a name that Gamezone was never able to adequately prove it had the rights to use).

[@tiagohugehouse3454]

139US just for shipping to Canada! Are you kidding me?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's pretty absurd.

[@megamonstercookies]

I have original and will have to pass on this one. The artwork is too cartoony and digital for my liking. But the miniatures look pretty rad. I’m glad that people will get a chance to try out the game now!

[@klinktastic]

Do you think they will open it up once it hits 2M?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

As in ship to anywhere? I don't see why they would. If they can't or won't at the moment, I don't think it would change at some arbitrary value. Of course, I would like to see them make it more available.

[@JamesMartin-bc8xq]

Aw man crowd funding and you can’t even get it in the uk. The funding prices I figured it would be around that. Shame it’s lost its GW connection too, but hey I’ve still got my original which works perfectly fine for me. Even though I’ve just started getting into blackstone fortress and really enjoy it, I would love GW to revisit Warhammer quest/ advance heroquest type of game again, ye old fantasy type, I miss that old school art work of the 80s too more rough and dirtier.., ah I’m starting to get nostalgic😀

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Shadows Over Hammerhal was the closest thing that GW has done in recent years. It felt very close to Advanced Heroquest in many ways. It was still the Age of Sigmar setting though.

[@JamesMartin-bc8xq]

Always Board Never Boring yep about that one good back into the hobby after they had ended it...luckily I found you and got into BSF just before it comes to an end, totally see why you enjoy it so much!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@JamesMartin-bc8xq Blackstone is such a joy. I'm glad you're having fun with it. Maybe the next Quest game (I'm sure they will do one) will go back to a fantasy setting.

[@bones2323232323]

Why not just use a forwarder?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Some people are, but it's more hoops to jump through, more things to go wrong with shipping, and more costs in handling, shipping, insurance, and other fees.

[@bones2323232323]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring ah OK, just making sure people at least know there's an option if they really want it. I live overseas though I'm American and that's what I do.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@bones2323232323 If you have a company that you have used and think are good feel free to share it here for anyone who wants to give it a shot. Other people have named Shipito and Reship as good options.

[@marky437]

Nah give it a miss if I really want Heroquest I would buy the original game from Ebay as you can get it cheap if you know where to look.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

You may just have to lower expectations for condition. 30 years has not been kind on many of them!

[@marky437]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I saw a good complete copy of the game for £70 about a week ago. Just looking now there seems to be quite a few used but complete. I'm not one for never been played or factory sealed version of games. If it's complete and has some wear and tear which can easily be kit bashed no problem. I'm not getting it as a investment but as a game to play and enjoy lol

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@marky437 Oh you can definitely find them, and new copies go up every week. But some of them are in a shocking state. You have to take care with people's descriptions too. I have seen three this week that were listed as complete and were all missing bits when I looked at the pictures in detail.

[@INCDZONE]

I will admit me personally if they had solo rules that be plus for me. Its not easy to get a group of players together and more so now with the virus. But i wont be getting cause i;m in UK and have to admit the price they asking for it. Cant remember paying that much when the original one come out.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I think it was about £25 back in 1989. There is more content (and two expansions with the $150 version), so maybe that works out about right? I can see why people wanted solo rules, but I have other games for that so I wasn't too worried.

[@thegunslinger9544]

$135 shipping to Canada? How? Like WTF?

[@admiralandersen]

I'll just play my original game with those two exact expansions.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I think if you've got the original, the only reason to get the new one would be if you're in the UK and want a version using the US rules. But of course, that's not possible!

[@admiralandersen]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring My main game has the rules in danish, but only one expansion came out here in Denmark, so my expansions are the english. I have no idea if the US version will have different rules.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@admiralandersen The new version is using the old US rules, which means monsters with more hit points and chaos magic, which were things that weren't in the European version. However, it looks like they are adding in the armoury cards, which was something that the original US version didn't have.

[@admiralandersen]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Nice

[@biscuitsalive]

They’ve lost a lot of money not supporting outside US

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Pretty sure they would have hit the million by now.

[@Usernamesux4real]

Really a tough call as I am in the US and have the original US version and expansions as well as the version with the Dark Company" quest, Against the Ogre Horde and Wizards of Morcar (not to mention the Adventures Design Kit). So spending another $150 + tax + $30 shipping... I guess it's not too bad based on it's limited availability but it is bad if they want to reach a goal but only allow really the US the opportunity. I thought about actually getting two, one to play and one to store unopened this time 😉😂

[@Usernamesux4real]

Already over $700k and growing. With this success, I think they will bring it to other markets and may offer additional exclusives by market. Just like we all had different expansions. Maybe another character or special quest?

[@TinyDiodes]

Well, it's got FishMen, that's one up on GW.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Fishmen was an odd choice, I feel.

[@TinyDiodes]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Lol, yes, but I recently watched a video breaking down HQ and it mentioned that this dungeon was filled with monsters that seemed to wonder in from other places, that Fimirs were actually swamp dwelling creatures. So I guess they went with something similar in that respect.

[@peterward2275]

Considering the assistance of British company Games Workshop in creating the original and the legendary British TV ad ('Brawd Sawd!'), as a Brit I feel kinda insulted and shunned as well as disappointed, to say the least. The Bard, as as Aussie, will doubtless be equally frustrated.

[@honzaskypala]

If you live in Europe and want to get the new HeroQuest (or generaly anything that is sold within US but not shipped over to Europe), you may check the service shipito.com - they will give you virtual US address, which you can use for shopping and they will resend you the parcel to your European address (of course they charge a fee for that, but that is to be expected).

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Several people have recommended these services, but how does it work with a preorder that could be a year or more coming? I assume you would need to have the virtual address set up at the point of backing, and then just pay for it for an indefinite period of time until delivery?

[@honzaskypala]

Always Board Never Boring There is no cost for having the virtual address. There are only fees for the actual parcel - processing the parcel, postage to the destination country, plus eventual other ones like for consolidating multiple parcels into one etc. But you can have the virtual address for free and pay nothing until the parcel is shipped, so no issues with pre-orderu, Kickstarters etc.

[@Walboro]

I would have 100% bought into the $150 edition but I’m in the UK. 😩

[@stewartleslie3292]

Just remember, the game will be made in China, so the CCP will be getting a slice of that $150. Just a shame that the CCP are also the incompetent pricks that has cause a global issue that mean you can't play this game with your friends as it breaks lockdown rules.

[@Walboro]

Stewart Leslie I’m not worried about communists getting my money if it means getting what I want. Hell, have the full 150. But it’d only be a 5 person game max anyway so the lockdown rules would be fine.

[@stuartmurdock7026]

Looks really pretty. I’m not liking the fish guy but I guess they had to replace the famir with something. Really screwed the pooch with only dropping it in the states. 😡😭😡😭

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Surprised they didn't go for something like a troll, but I guess they thought the fimir was pretty much the one creature tying HeroQuest to the Warhammer world so they needed to have something that uniquely tied to the new world they're creating.

[@jacobturnerart]

As if Hasbro needs to crowdfund. This is either taking the p#*s or a greedy marketing campaign. Also a slap in the face for the home of Games Workshop.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I guess they don't have confidence in sales to put it on shelves traditionally.

[@rebeccakeller4666]

Canada shipping is $135USD, like.... wow

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

That's brutal.

[@MrRabidtroll]

Google shipping consolidator for a way to get American products internationally

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Does it cause any problems using such a service for something that you're buying as a preorder that may not come out for a year or more?

[@MrRabidtroll]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring idk, being an American I haven't researched it that much. I have read posts by those who use these companies and they are happy about it.