Hating Polygamy and Seeking Divorce Due to It | Shaykh Ubayd al-Jabiri

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[@Terminator261]

Allah bless the Shaykh and those involved for educating the masses. Knowledge will always prevail.

[@muadhal-fakir4237]

Aameen

[@usamasohail3294]

What he said is wrong?? Which part

[@davidnelson84revert]

Well said Sheikh

[@senaozbek8218]

shouldve added that women are allowed to refuse, the prophet didnt allow ali to have a second wife bcs he didnt want her daughter to be hurt but for some reason yall dont know that hadith, m'n

[@razamughal4582]

Stop being thick your whole life 🙄🙄. The Prophet had NO RIGHT to refuse any one from sending or accepting proposals. The fact that Ali sent a proposal is PROOF that fatima had no issue nor did her father. The problem arose because Ali ra did something incredibly stupid which was to propose to a woman from the enemy tribe to the Prophet. That angered fatima because it went against the glory of her father. Thats when the prophet said what he did and that caused Ali to not send anymore proposals. After fatima died he had four wives and 100s of bondswomen.

[@kennethtaylor6534]

@@razamughal4582fear Allah. “Ali did something incredibly stupid “ this speech is haram and Allah is pleased with him

[@razamughal4582]

​@@kennethtaylor6534 the point is he did something wrong, thats what angered fatima ra, not the fact that he wanted to marry. The fact that he sent a proposal in the first place tells you all you need to know.

[@sacredstrengthh]

What hadith? Lol im pretty certain you're hurt by what the sheikh stated trying to find loopholes. Haqq will prevail your nimble opinion, Fear Allah

[@senaozbek8218]

@@sacredstrengthh al-Bukhaari, 3110; Muslim, 2449

[@ZoubirKabir]

Brilliant. As clear as a mountain spring. Hamdoulillah.

[@user-be2tw4xg7x]

Assalamu Aleykum wa rahmatullah The word is Polygyny, Polygamy is something else Barakallahu fik

[@salafiyyah001]

Wa alaykum salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

[@raphaelnouh1442]

Waalaykum asalam warahmatullah

[@mutaabi-as-salaf]

As-Salâmu 'alaykum. It is polygamy. The word Polygyny was invented in the 1780s. It has always been polygamy, and they invented a new word to specify a man with more than one wife.

[@mishmash7776]

How about when you’ve gone through and experienced it realised how bad it actually can be when not done properly. Realised it’s encouraged between brothers without any real advice on doing properly . Seen your kids suffer, seen your daughter say she doesn’t want to marry salafi, seen your son say he doesn’t want to get married. Realised the salafi community will always turn a blind eye no matter who you go to. Walk around with holes in sisters clothes, your non Muslim parents the ones providing money for your kids clothes, constant poverty, depression , low Eemian. Relying on welfare using welfare money for other women in other countries , no life no hope . But no it’s the man’s right to wreck his entire families life. Sometimes it works but not sure how many men in 2023 can afford multiple housing, food, bills, education, clothes for multiple kids, but no let’s keep encouraging the poor and foolish with multiple wives and demonise women for not wanting it. I didn’t become Muslim to be voiceless and depressed.

[@grizzlymac-tight]

What ur referring to seems to be the fault of the husband in question is it not? And in that case, the sin will be upon him. And perhaps you are right that there needs to be more education regarding this topic. With all that being said, it doesn't change the fact that it is his right.

[@AmeeB-oo1lr]

@@grizzlymac-tight it’s a right WITH conditions.

[@Marwadear512]

Stop being Salafi. They have errors in thinking and aren’t orthodox Sunni.

[@ami.o3574]

SubhanAllah more people need to take into account these situations

[@talibalhidaya]

Thank you for posting this. You're right, Islam calls for wisdom and responsibility not using the Deen to further problems andnblaming others.

[@maktabahassunnah]

Asalām Alaykum Polygyny is the correct term as polygamy refers to both sexes.

[@Fadedfrost1]

Wa alaykum assalam exactly

[@raphaelnouh1442]

Waalaykum asalam

[@thegirl30]

I will let him get married again, that's his right. But i don't want to hear about the other wives, I don't even want to know what they look like. I won't stand in his way but I don't want any involvement with the other women. I think there's fair

[@thatpakiguy3445]

“Jeez”?! To call uon Jesus is shirk akbar. Repent to Allah!

[@thatpakiguy3445]

@thegirl30 thats fair enough. I don’t think any (mentally healthy) husband would forcibly tell you about the attributes and descriptions of his other wives for no reason.

[@nami20622]

@@memories0046 If we tell our husbands to get a second wife then we are to blame and apparently, we are making him feel not loved on the other hand if we tell him not to get married again then we are denying him his rights? So which is which?

[@user-qj8fn4ty5o]

@nami20622 i used to tell him that i coudnt let him have a 2nd wife, and he would argue and argue. But now that i told him to marry so i dont have to be with him all the time he got mad and doesnt want to do it. So i guess he just wants to disagree with me 😅

[@nami20622]

@@user-qj8fn4ty5o Absolutely sister 😅its just a headache! They want to feel like they are in power by saying "I can get a second wife" but when you express that you actually don't care he starts to feel like you don't love him! BRO pick a side!

[@madihosseini273]

Just imagine in 2023 greeting your wife ”assalamu alaikum” and getting that response.. alhamdulillah (5:00) Astaghfirullah. Ya Allah bless our youth with good manners and great wifes,husbands

[@layla1796]

But is it valid if the man isnt adhereing equal treatment? Or she fears she may disobey Allah? Because i havent heard of a woman hating polygamy except when she wasnt treated fairly

[@m.mubeenmughal4212]

That's upon the husband and he will have to recompense accordingly. A wife in such a matter can only be patient, Allah tests this whom he loves.

[@sabiraislam6334]

NO NEVER!!! I can't share my husband with other women... I hate this

[@nami20622]

Are you married perhaps? If you are single then its understandable to feel this way, but after marriage you will gain more intellect!

[@sabiraislam6334]

@@nami20622 what after marriage I will let my hubby to have another wife 😀 never ever I will let him to do something like that...

[@user-qj8fn4ty5o]

Its all about prespective, idk about your situation but i thought this too, and i cant imagine sharing him, but i can imagine having a house to myself where i can have my girl dinner in peace, where i have to do 1/2 of the laundry and have the kids 1/2 of the time, i mean its a shares responability and you can still enjoy him after a break

[@ElinoraMilanesi]

@@user-qj8fn4ty5o Why would you have the kids 1/2 of the time ? He doesn't take the kids when he goes to the other one, no ?

[@robthebob4586]

@@ElinoraMilanesi Why would he?

[@user-lv8ce3uu7n]

What is the advice to those scholars and muftis who are encouraging women to take khula from their husband if they intend to do polygyny and cite evidneces such as Fatima r.a. that Ali r.a didnt do polygyny in life of fatima and cite other instance of female companions who took khula because she disliked her husband despite him beinga very righteous man and hence they cite this example and say that since the woman could fall into sin or kufr if she stays in a relationship wiht her hsuband if he takes second wife therefore it is okay for her to take khula. This kind of fallacious application of deen by certain muftis including those on Islamqa site misinforms people and encourages khula seeking woman when husbands intend to have polygamous relationship.

[@taimurahmad]

Islamqa site also says niqab is obligatory and other matters.... Take deen as while, a madhab as whole. Not in parts

[@SunnahResistance]

​@@taimurahmad Niqab being obligatory is a valid opinion founded upon evidence from the Quran and Sunnah, with the other valid opinion being that it is sunnah. Islamqa is run by ikhwanis, but citing this as their problem shows your lack of knowledge on the matter. Please do not be quick to assume something is non legislated in Islam جزاك الله خيراً

[@tahirballikaya213]

Sh assim al hakim also had a video where he said it is OK to take khula if the sister can not take it and she will NOT be amongst them who will not smell jannah because she had a valid reason.

[@razamughal4582]

@@tahirballikaya213 thats NOT a valid reason. She was raised by a hindu mother, blame her mother.

[@saraAFA_]

Muslim men continue to seek women with characteristics of the wives of the Rasul whilst they are the furthest from the Rasul (May Allah be pleased with him) himself in character. This is one of the biggest problems in Islamic marriages. It will never happen! You attract what you project.

[@hijabmary4814]

Polygomy is for back them when men would die from war and needed to take care of woman it’s not for mens satisfaction. And it’s a woman’s right to write in the contract he can’t get a second wife

[@ponderingspirit1475]

Who precedes you in that it was for back then? It is kufr Al akbar to make the halal haram. Who also precedes you in that it is not for men's satisfaction? Does that mean it is not for women's satisfaction? Not allowing a second wife in the contract is the Hanbali opinion, though the other 3 madhaahib do not hold this view

[@hijabmary4814]

@@ponderingspirit1475 so now your making rules up for the religion to satisfy your sexual desires. As if men have more desires then woman. If that was the case woman can get a second husband for sex but no it’s not for sex it’s to take care of woman. And yes a woman had the right to write in the contract he CANT get a second wife 😘

[@hijabmary4814]

@@ahmadhanbal8497 wow the misogyny is not apart of Islam. You clearly didn’t learn from schalors or good imams or really good students of knowledge. I guess their all following their desires as you said

[@hijabmary4814]

@@ahmadhanbal8497 😂😂😂your funny. Go read. Looking at KZbin videos on polygony is not ganna educate you

[@hijabmary4814]

@@ahmadhanbal8497 here we go again with the feminist 🙄

[@felicial.5992]

His responses seem self-serving, in the qur'an a wife and daughter of prophet denied her husband the right to marry and was not seen as an unbeliever for doing so. As the qur'an states it is allowed but not required or suggested to have more than 1 wife. Meaning that type of marriage won't be right for everyone and that's okay. If all are in agreement great! But if not then tough decisions may be made such as divorce and that is not ideal but is okay. Just as the man has rights in Islam so does the woman and not sharing her husband is one of them. Simply put, Allowed does not mean mandatory therefore she's not going to hell if she decides the marriage isn't right for her anymore NOR is she being an unbeliever. UPDATE: Let me simplify my msg because the responses aren't even addressing my point: NO ONE'S RIGHTS SHOULD BE TAKEN AWAY, MEN OR WOMEN. the point of my comment was that we shouldn't say a woman is going to hell or a non-believer for wanting something that she's entitled to have. One of the purposes of Islam is restore a woman's rights not take them away....she has a right to peace in her marriage AND to be treated fairly and if polygny robs her of that peace and fairness, she has a right to leave. whether or not she's allowed to put the request in Nikah depends on your school of thought, I'm not here to discuss that...but Calling her a non believer and villifying her for the rights that ALLAH gave is not right and doesn't matter who it's coming from, it's not right....you are entitled to feel what you may and so am I.

[@AhmedYousefElarabi1994]

Sister may Allah bless you we should be careful when we accuse a major scholar of seeming self-serving, also what story are you referring to in the Qur'an here a wife and daughter of the Prophet denied her husband the right to marry? Also the Qur'an absolutely encourages and suggests having more than one wife which is why the Verse says "...marry (other) women of your choice, two or three, or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one", clearly indicating the origin being plurality and the exception having a single wife.

[@rdflower7025]

@@AhmedYousefElarabi1994 each of the wives also has the right to her own home (separate from the other wives). It can be done justly, and a Nikkah contract to allow to annul the marriage if he takes a second wife is a thing (but neither does this take the mans right away ).

[@rdflower7025]

A woman can put it in her Nikkah contract to annul the marriage if he takes another wife but the man's right of having 4 wives doesn't get taken away.

[@salafisolutions5839]

you have no right to speak about a major scholar this way, you are not a mujtahid and you have no knowledge of the religion, you have spoken about the religion of Allah without any daleel. Make tawbah and delete this comment, barakallahu feek.

[@khalido50ko]

@@rdflower7025 actually many scholars say that a woman can't do that because of the prophet now allowing people to make what is halal haram in their contracts. (الْمُسْلِمُونَ عَلَى شُرُوطِهِمْ ، إِلَّا شَرْطًا حَرَّمَ حَلَالًا ، أَوْ أَحَلَّ حَرَامًا) رواه الترمذي Tirmidih narrated the prophet saying: The Muslims are upon their contract conditions. Except a condition that makes what is halal haram, and what is haram halal. And Bukhari and Muslim narrated him saying (مَنْ اشْتَرَطَ شَرْطًا لَيْسَ فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ فَهُوَ بَاطِلٌ ، وَإِنْ اشْتَرَطَ مِائَةَ شَرْطٍ) رواه البخاري (2155) ومسلم (1504) . Whoever sets a condition that is not in the book of Allah, then it is nullified even if they were to set that condition 100 times.