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I'm sometimes asked if, during my time discussing religion as an atheist, I have ever considered reverting to Christianity. Whilst I like to think that I have, that may not mean exactly what is expected.
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[@drawn2myattention641]

A Christian once asked Hitch if he ever questioned his atheism, and he said, “nearly every day, and I’m happy to do so. Do you question your Christian beliefs in the same way?”

[@dataexpunged6969]

Wow that is such a perfect answer. I need to steal that line.

[@Soapandwater6]

Wow. Hitch is still amazing me.

[@borrburison648]

@@dataexpunged6969 as a Christian, I nearly deconverted from my faith countless times, and did a few times, but I always reverted, because I couldn't find a good reason not to believe in God

[@dataexpunged6969]

@@borrburison648 Well then that's good for you, but questioning (in my personal opinion) means looking at the facts. If you keep going back because of emotions and not hard facts then that's good too, but most people try to rationalise it, even when there's no rationality to be found in their arguments.

[@drawn2myattention641]

@@borrburison648 One doesn’t look for reasons not to believe that something exists, and failing, decide the thing exists. Look rather for reasons to believe, and evaluate them.

[@GodOfThe]

I’m glad that many Christians I know really seem to have respect for Alex. He’s kind, articulate, and genuinely seems interested in learning from the other side, and not just wanting to push his atheist views onto them. I’m thankful for Alex.

[@WayneLynch69]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnqrfqF6Z6t3m7s My ONLY focus is upon the intransigent questions: 1)"How is there something instead of nothing?" Robert Lawrence Kuhn's 'ineradicable, insuperable question'. Thermodynamics disallows a universe from cold(nothing)--1st LAW....and disallows an eternal universe--2nd LAW (stipulates a universe of heat distributing to cold; THIS ONE HAS NOT). 2) And OF COURSE, "Life from non-life". The link above has ACTUAL ACCOMPLISHED biologists, Venter/Hartwell/Altman ALL saying "it's IMPOSSIBLE humans will EVER know the origin of life". And DAWKINS sits mute/deaf/ignorant..NO RESPONSE! 'CAUSE HE AIN'T GOTSHITTTT

[@2fast2block]

He is NOT interested in learning! He is interested in pretending he is. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@Mar-dk3mp]

A GodLess and Souless as a robot ask what God was able to do? He got replied anything, like in the Old Testament. You will die one day and you will face it, you will not be Nothing.. God denier, God does not need you, if you believe in him good if you do not you will face him, what happen will be between you and him, he will ask you, not now, then why you denied and you will be like a smart GODLESS person... They thing they come from nothing 😂😂😂h

[@GameShamus]

"I respect Alex more than most Christians" - Me, a quaker who came for the oatmeal but stayed for the faith.

[@Mar-dk3mp]

@@GameShamus what? Are you a GodLess and Souless person to???.

[@Robert399]

I think when most people ask this question, they're not asking, "do you ever reflect on your beliefs?" They're asking, "have you ever felt an emotional need to revert to religion?" with the implication that if you have that's reason enough to do so.

[@jursamaj]

Really? Because, as somebody who has been in my fair share of failed relationships, I can say without hesitation: that's a *terrible* reason to get back together. You left for good reason. If that reason hasn't changed, go find something/somebody else to fill the need.

[@jursamaj]

@Kyanide I see nothing in the comment that says or even implies that. He just clarifies what most people mean by the question.

[@realmless4193]

If I asked that question, I wouldn't be asking either. I would be asking if you ever have a emotional desire to revert and I would want to know why to get a better idea of what your biases are.

[@pdxnikki1]

Not necessarily. Belief is about truth, not emotion. Faith may be more emotional but belief in it's purest form is only about truth. As an atheist for 54 years, all i wanted to know was the truth. Had I wanted a god which I did NOT! the very last one I would've chosen would've Jesus. I was raised as an atheist Jew. Jesus was NOT the Messiah as I was taught. Anyway, thought Him fictional. That's how out of touch I was with the facts! 😂 But I had to set aside my pre-existing bias as an atheist and dig into the research using the scientific method. I just followed the truth. I let it lead me. And Yeshua actually IS The Messiah. I didn't want it to be true. I hated that it was true. Truth is very offended sometimes. But Truth doesn't require my approval. It's true regardless of what I think or believe.

[@jursamaj]

@@pdxnikki1 If you actually had scientific proof that Jesus was the messiah, you'd be famous, not posting fatuous KZbin comments…

[@thedemysticist6730]

If a Pastor changes his mind, he loses his job. If Alex changes his mind, we just get honesty and more great content.

[@nenmaster5218]

Seen 'GOP vs Queer' by 'Some More News'?

[@carter6018]

If he became a Christian his whole audience would turn on him and persecute him

[@carter6018]

There is no loving atheists all his comment sections are bitter angry people

[@timothylanger2999]

Not necessarily, some definitely would, but probably not everyone, they probably would expect a very well articulated rationale though.

[@carter6018]

@@timothylanger2999 no. Look what happened to steven bancarz and J warner wallace and alister mcgrath. Its always the same.

[@multismashify]

I myself am Catholic, and I've always very much appreciated both your work and the respect with which you engage others. Very much looking forward to your future endeavors!

[@Gamefan86]

Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.

[@multismashify]

@@Gamefan86 Interesting. Citation?

[@ssfdf7751]

​@@multismashify he is copy-paste bot not going to reply to you

[@lorenlacerda4711]

I am also a catholic and I also appreaciate Alex’s debates. I pray that God shows him His grace.

[@mikedakin2016]

@@lorenlacerda4711 see ? that's the kind of sanctimonious bollocks that really angers me about religious people especially Catholics .

[@TheSpursfan2112]

I joined a Christian church after being agnostic/ atheist for 7 years. (I was raised as a Mormon) Mentally, I needed a community of kind and supportive people as well as accountability when 2020 hit. I was becoming suicidal that year because so many changes happened so fast. I don't believe I will ever be that Christian that claims to "know" God exists. I do know however that it has been good for me to hope for something, and the support of the church I go to has made me some great friends. I totally understand the atheistic perspective though and will never force my hope and faith on anyone. I'll only share why I go to a church now as a positive benefit.

[@cypherpunk12]

My experience was similar. For me I had 2 very tragic deaths in my family, my cousin died at 17 of cancer and my grandmother died of cancer at age 58. Both were the same year (1993) and I was 13. When I list them I continued to believe I would see them again in a happy place known as Heaven. It's what helped me overcome this grief I felt. But at the end of the day I found this lack of evidence. When I finally made the step to be an atheist I had to admit I was not ever going to see them again. I was depressed, it was as if they had died once again, I grieved once more, and I finally said my goodbyes and felt with it. As for emotional support and community, I don't see why I would go to a church for this. I am a member of a number of organisations, just people sharing similar interests, I honestly do not know the religious beliefs (or lack of) of the members, there is no need. We are just humans who bond together for a common cause. A church has a common cause, but if you are not part of that cause why would you want to attend?

[@2fast2block]

Don't do the suicide route. God gave you life and don't let anyone take it from you. Cosmic is a joke. You need to start thinking yourself. Wake up! So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@ILoveMahCat]

I’m an agnostic but I attend a church because it gives me hope and inspiration to see people who believe genuinely love and believe in a world where justice is innate and everyone down to the most downtrodden will see the justice they don’t on Earth. Secular organizations have never been as good at that in my experience. They’ve never felt as welcoming or hopeful.

[@GoldenMechaTiger]

Did you just join the church as in you go there and hang out every sunday or did you actually become a christian?

[@AnimalApologist]

@@GoldenMechaTiger be happy she is on her faith journey. One step at a time. Not every Christian at church is a true believer.

[@Awesome30034]

I am a theist and I really enjoy watching your videos, keep up the good work

[@peterp-a-n4743]

Nobody's perfect

[@frufrujabenderps5300]

haha me too

[@borrburison648]

@@peterp-a-n4743 especially not atheists

[@TheFunGun5]

@@borrburison648 Says the masochist lol.

[@dericanslum1696]

@@borrburison648 Ad Hominem / Tu Quoque ...look it up...educate and elevate yourself...

[@dennis9423]

I applaud your struggle, your journey to truth. You seem honest and genuine. I believe your sincerity will be rewarded. How that plays out is anyone's guess, but I am trusting that is will be ultimately fruitful and fulfilling. Thanks for including all of us on our journeys as you explore your own.

[@Andrea-ky9lh]

As a devout Catholic, I deeply respect your openness to seeking the truth. It’s beautiful to watch.

[@bjeol]

Praying for you, Alex. Safe travels and looking forward to the upcoming debates and discussions.

[@Soapy-chan_old]

I find saying "praying for you" to an Atheist to be something really offensive. It's a dick move.

[@bjeol]

@@Soapy-chan_old Why is that?

[@Soapy-chan_old]

@@bjeol Because we don't believe in prayer and it will not work and by saying you pray for us you push your beliefs unto us without acknowledging that we dont believe in it.

[@bjeol]

@@Soapy-chan_old Gotcha. It seems that Alex is open to becoming a Christina again, so maybe he wouldn’t be offended by my prayers on his behalf? Alex says that he would genuinely like to experience the love of God, and I would like that for him as well. Not trying to be condescending or forceful.

[@Soapy-chan_old]

@@bjeol Well ok, sorry if I might have been too hostile. In this case I can understand it, but most people even if not trying to be condescending don't realise that it is a bad move for someone who rejects their ideas. I don't think they and probably you would like it if I'd say I pray to allah that you come to see the truth.

[@Michael-cb5nm]

Keep up the debates…you are quite good at them and it is so enlightening for the listeners. The friendly give and take is also so refreshing in this day and age.

[@2fast2block]

Cosmic is just a dolt easy to crush. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@sexagesimalian]

@11:40 There is a danger here in that any time you decline an invitation to a church service, you can be labelled as "closed minded." The Christian apologists can fall back on the chestnut that you are only an atheist because you haven't attended the right services, you haven't read the right apologetics, ad nauseum. There comes a point when you must say enough is enough.

[@williamlarochelle6833]

You said it!

[@angelainamarie9656]

LOL, as a person who's deliberately gone to church maybe 3 times (and all because of a spouse, and one of those times was to get married) I can't think of anything those people could do or say to entice me to waste an afternoon with their soulless navel-gazing. Ugh.

[@Soapy-chan_old]

That is the dishonesty of religion

[@chrisinnes2128]

I'm Scottish and I am a member of the Church of Scotland declining to go to church service would not be a problem. It's up to everyone to chose whether to go or not

[@2fast2block]

I don't got to church but I'm not braindead like Cosmic. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@JCW7100]

Alex, you are truly an inspiration. You are so thoughtful and articulate at every turn. I hope to be half the speaker you are one day

[@2fast2block]

No, he's a doofus. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@Draezeth]

As a Christian, I entirely agree.

[@Jerry-zz2eu]

You should be inspired by the truth. Not eloquent defense of falsehood.

[@JCW7100]

@@Jerry-zz2eu I don't think it's immoral to be impressed by a speaker. And of course, it's not falsehood...

[@Jerry-zz2eu]

@@JCW7100 Atheism is a falsehood, and it's not immoral, just meaningless.

[@yaakovrothman547]

As I Jew I feel that we approach the topic of God's existence differently. I just want to say I have watched you grow a lot over the years I've followed you. You now approach skepticism with empathy. I'm proud of you. Thank you!

[@zacharylehocki]

Smashingly good video Alex! I love your openness and intellectual honesty. I know you've been away for awhile and I look foreword to you coming back with future contend to your channel. We need you!

[@octem2251]

If you think about it, you are having the same problem as every religious zealot. Why are you so eager to become a follower? Poor Father Alex, his flock is so demanding and give him nothing in return

[@zacharylehocki]

@@octem2251 While I am a subscriber and admirer of Cosmic Skeptic I am not a follower of Alex like a Religious zealot in any sense. I follow no flock. Alex doesn't dictate how I should live my life, what I can wear, etc. And I feel free to disagree with Alex when I do

[@2fast2block]

He's not honest. He's a F00L. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@abdullahharoun6680]

Thanks Alex for answering my question! Loved the video. Keep it up.

[@2fast2block]

He only pretends to care about truth. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@juliamay8580]

I wasn't a Christian but thanks to your videos I left a New Age guru that convinced me of many wacky things that in retrospective I find really silly (like aliens and such). Thing is I've always looked for God, and I did have tons of personal, subjective experiences in that direction. I really could FEEL this spirit, I felt I wasn't alone and I could do anything just by having "good vibes" and "good thoughts" instead of working hard, and while I was feeling like that, my material reality was falling apart as I was failing school and couldn't get a job (shocker, I know). I used to blame it in all sorts of things, but eventually, after watching you videos for YEARS out of curiosity and as an "exercise to test my faith", I started considering that maybe this "Guru" either doesn't really know what they're talking about, or they're not being completely honest, probably both. Nowdays I am an agnostic (because I don't think I know enough to really tell categorically if there is a god or not) but I am extremely skeptic of all religions and spiritual practices, so in that sense I'm an atheist. I consider myself a practical atheist. Sometimes Christians seem to think the debate is only "atheism vs Christianity", but that's way too reductionist, there are other possibilities. I am still open to God, but IF he comes, he might do so through another religion or something else entirely, or might never come. When they doubt the sincerity of those who don't believe I find it shockingly narrow-minded.

[@solliedoesmollie]

hey! i need help with that which videos do u reccommend about new age specifically. im going nuts ngl i keep seeing angel numbers everywhere but im an atheist.. so what the hell

[@2fast2block]

Then follow this F00L and when you're judged by God for being a F00L, Cosmic can't help you. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@nopretribrapture2318]

@Factual History Of British Raj & BEIC no one knows fully 100% yet or never ,who knows😕

[@binarypasta7633]

I knew the answer was “kind of but not really” when the video wasn’t titled “an atheist’s case for god,” like how his first vegan video was titled, “A meat eater’s case for Veganism.”

[@coltoncatalli8148]

9:10

[@pilaracevedo2078]

Hey, fellow pastafari. Our Noodleness be with thou

[@gandalfandferg280]

Yo that's my profile pic bro

[@deldarel]

The difference between the vegan video and this video is that with the vegan video he stumbled upon something that made reasonable sense. The closest reasonable sense Christianity makes is in pascal's wager. Personal experiences and feelings aren't something you can reason yourself to, even though those are the things are the most powerful reasons people have been convinced of Christianity. Using this to reason that Christianity is true is valid, just not sound because the reasons themselves aren't reasonable.

[@jamespaternoster7354]

This channel is brilliant and I’d like to put a suggestion up for cosmic skeptic to review the work or debunk the work of Richard Weikart a passionate creationist who I’m my opinion needs debunking

[@nabrzhunter]

I listened to you speak here in this video with the same enthusiasm and inner happiness that I might feel while listening to music. IDK why, maybe it just feels good to know that I’m not the only one who feels the way that I do. It’s not my job or my lifestyle to do what you do, but I ask the same questions and engage with the arguments either second-hand or in small-scale discussions BECAUSE the conclusion matters to me, whatever that conclusion might be. As I’ve said recently: I feel an inner desire to go sit in an empty church, maybe even attend Mass. I truly would love to unequivocally believe…but I also know as a formerly diehard Christian that this is very likely nostalgia, on top of my old-world taste. All that to say, surely…if He’s out there and really is loving and really is all that is true, he will not abandon us in our sincere desire for truth.

[@kylejames8765]

This was actually a very lovely video. I found myself very much moved by your words. From a believing, practicing Catholic. God bless you.

[@Gamefan86]

Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.

[@Gamefan86]

🤢🤮

[@kylejames8765]

@@Gamefan86 you're funny. Lol.

[@2fast2block]

No, he's a liar who fakes as if he cares about truth. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@Christi_Bellator]

@@Gamefan86 😂Nice, joke😂

[@deldarel]

I was struggling a little with P2. "If a perfectly loving god exists, reasonable nonbelief does not occur" but then I thought "Nonbelievers go to hell" and "A perfectly loving god would want everyone to have the best possible afterlife." A perfectly loving god would not fall short on reasons to let others know he exists because that's the best afterlife you can get. The current life doesn't factor in because the finite is nothing compared to the infinite. I love how the problem of evil is still one of the most powerful tools we have. It's ancient, it's so simple, and this little syllogism shatters most 'free will' reactions most believers tackling the problem of evil have.

[@maalikserebryakov]

Allah created evils to Test us

[@bellumthirio139]

Nonbelievers don’t go to Hell, one of the parables of Christ is that he descends to Hades to save all the righteous is it not?

[@davidryan0808]

Catholics made hell up..limbo wasn't enough to get the cash🤣🤣🥰 I do btw pray and believe in something.. God knows what though

[@houghton841]

@@bellumthirio139 No it's not a parable. The idea that Christ descends to the underworld to preach to souls is a later story. This statement that Jesus descended into hell is believed to have been added later, around AD 390 and is in the Apostles creed, not the Bible.

[@bellumthirio139]

@@houghton841 google says it has its origin in scripture, and interpolates the moment between Jesus’s crucifixion and resurrection

[@theautodidacticlayman]

I flipping love your openness, Alex. On convertibility, I use the same line of thinking when I have these types of conversations with my atheist friend at work. He used to be really brash about his atheism when he first started working there (probably because he saw the “No King but Jesus” sticker on my truck!), but I could tell he was a good dude… takes good care of his family. We’ve had discussions about consciousness, morality, veganism, Christian culture, the mystery of an afterlife, and of course God’s existence. Almost every conversation, I close with “But I could be wrong.” 😆 It’s such an important thing to recognize. I feel that it lets people check my work. I’d rather lay it all bare than bundle up with errors, right? BTW, thanks to your work on the problem of animal suffering, I adopted a vegan diet. (I basically just applied the free will theodicy.) Ever since, a thread through the scriptures is becoming more clear in defense of the claim that (most Christians won’t like this) the vegan diet is actually a moral ideal for humans. It’s the Edenic diet, the Exodus diet, and the Messianic Reign diet. A very strong case can be made, but the only argument I haven’t been able to rebut is the one that cites the resurrected Jesus eating fish. The only possible way I can think of addressing that argument is super sketchy: it’s to use only the manuscripts that say the disciples brought the resurrected Jesus fish AND honeycomb (of Luke 24:40-43), and then say that, well, since the scriptures don’t specify what Jesus ate, it’s possible that he only ate the honeycomb and not the fish… but then why would his closest friends bring him fish to eat if they knew he wouldn’t eat it? And honeycomb still technically isn’t vegan in the popular sense. So yeah, that one’s got me stumped (so far) as a vegan Christian. Anyhow, thanks for sharing the stuff in this video, man. I’m gonna be revisiting the argument from divine hiddenness because of this one. 👍🏻

[@2fast2block]

Why do you thank this liar? What a joke you are being chummy with someone who clearly does care about people enough to be honest. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@joshuacooper9946]

There are demonic forces trying to influence you and because you’re focused on what to eat, you are being led astray. Listen to me carefully. Or Him, at least. “Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:25‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Have you never read Paul’s letters? The man possessed with The Holy Spirit? Chosen by Christ Himself to preach the gospel? Listen to him also. “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.” ‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭4:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Read that passage. Then read it again. If it doesn’t sink in the second time, read it a third time. Now, I’m not judging you. I do know this though, what you are being taught is a thing taught by demons to try and pull you away from your brethren. I know, because my girlfriend was a vegan, how vegans view non-vegans deep down. They view them as selfish, cruel and insensitive because “it is entirely possible to sustain life without meat in 2022, why needlessly *murder*? (wrong use of the word but they use it anyway to evoke sympathy as one would feel with the death of humans, reducing the value of a human to that of the beasts. It’s demonic, remember?) WITH THAT BEING SAID… The following is another passage from Paul’s letters regarding eating. “Be willing to accept those who still have doubts about what believers can do. And don’t argue with them about their different ideas. Some people believe they can eat any kind of food, but those who have doubts eat only vegetables. Those who know they can eat any kind of food must not feel that they are better than those who eat only vegetables. And those who eat only vegetables must not decide that those who eat all foods are wrong. God has accepted them. You cannot judge the servants of someone else. Their own master decides if they are doing right or wrong. And the Lord’s servants will be right, because the Lord is able to make them right.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:1-4‬ ‭ It also tells me not to judge those who only eat vegetables, I am not judging them, I am only pointing out what was taught to be acceptable by The Lord. It is, abundantly, the vegans that judge the non-vegans. Whenever arguing with a vegan about why it’s morally acceptable to eat meat, I go to the source of all morality, God Himself and what he has deemed acceptable. God made it abundantly clear to Noah. “Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.” ‭‭Genesis‬ ‭9:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Watch out for all their arguments against meat. Know that they have little faith.. or none, as Alex O’Connor. Though he is seemingly very wise. “Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours; whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's; and ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3:18-23‬ ‭ “For all things are yours” And in the verse from genesis before that passage. “Even as the green herb Have I given you all things” As for Alex, I too admired him when I was an unbeliever. Pray for him. He is proud. God resists the proud, pray that he becomes humble, though he presents himself as open to conversion, he thinks he knows everything there is to know concerning God. “And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭8:2‬ ‭ Be careful not to admire him while being a believer, as you claim to be. He is doing nobody any favours, he is deceiving himself and others. A blind guide leading the blind into a pit. See the people in his comments, no offence. “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: for he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” ‭‭2 John‬ ‭1:9-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Have a good day and may God be the one to guide you. I pray His Spirit leads you into paths of righteousness all the days of your life and that Satan never leads you astray. Amen.

[@joshuaciresoli2927]

Best wishes to you, mate. It will be nice to have you Stateside. Thank you for the content and my kindest regards.

[@2fast2block]

Cosmic is a fake. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@loledssdafd3429]

Looking forward to seeing you making your way. And hopefully God will give you the relationship you desire.

[@RealAtheology]

Such a fantastic video Alex. I'm glad you're looking at the work of a serious Atheist philosopher like J.L. Schellenberg. Definitely check out the work of folks like Theodore Drange, Stephen Matizen, Graham Oppy, J.H. Sobel as well.

[@senkuishigami2485]

I think Alex did also read their works in university Real Atheology and Alex should definitely collab please request Alex for a collaboration

[@2fast2block]

He's a F00L pretending to look for truth. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@Soapandwater6]

I'm an atheist, but I still maintain an open mind. The only thing that ever makes me reconsider the existence of a god or an afterlife is the near death experience testimonies of credible people. It is obvious to me that they are not lying about what happened to them, and there are many similarities in their individual experiences - the bright light, the flying through a tunnel, the presence of a spiritual being (God or Jesus), the feeling of overwhelming love and security, and a newfound understanding of everything. It is almost convincing to me, at least, of the afterlife part. Alex, I wish you would give your opinion on near death experiences.

[@fidenful]

Near death experience have no value at all, it all happens in the brain. No Hindu has ever met Jesus, only Catholics see the Virgen Mary.

[@robertomondello2447]

I'm sorry to disappoint you but… the near death experience are not so greatest as you think. I many things and Watch many video about that. The only explanation is that during in that phase, your brain releases some substance that gives you that feeling of awe, or something else.

[@Soapandwater6]

@@robertomondello2447 Not disappointed.

[@poopslappa1661]

There's some weird stories out there of people hearing conversations as they're dying across the entire hospital which they couldn't have heard. Makes you wonder for sure!

[@Soapandwater6]

@@poopslappa1661 Yes, things like that!

[@avisharma252]

Can't wait for more cosmicskeptic podcast episodes. I'd really like to see you discuss normative ethics with Dr Avi if you ever get the chance.

[@2fast2block]

As if this joke cares about evidence. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@rubenalbrecht3066]

You got a very mature attitude I'm happy I found your channle. A while ago I did a Video about the different worldviews of people and the negative consequences (even for their whole environment) when people don't want to adapt it to reality anymore. I'm very happy I found your channel and with that video again you have proven that you are very smart and have a very mature attitude - keep it up👍 Greetings from Austria, Ruben

[@2fast2block]

He's just a liar that fooled you. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@joszsz]

I think a 4th conclusion could follow on the factor of time (i.e. individuals having reasonable unbelief at a time in their life doesn't necessarily disprove God's existence, seeing that they could eventually find Him at some future point in their lives), and your journey could eventually be an example. Also, I love your honesty, dedication, and patience with exploring all of this, and... this might sound like an odd thing for a Christian to say but, if the whole "search thing" ever overwhelms you, don't feel guilty about it, it's fine to take a break from it. We tend to focus so much on the seeking aspect of the journey sometimes, and we forget that God on His path also draws us to Him... So if the genuine intent is there and it becomes tiring at some point, it's okay, you're human. And "if a good loving God exists", He won't let you fall away, He won't deny you of the thing you've honestly sought.

[@2fast2block]

He's not being honest. How stooo-pid can you be?! So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@kingalexandersgodshapedhol7514]

Damn wish I could afford to go see you in Houston, be safe and enjoy the trip.

[@2fast2block]

As if this joke can debate. What a laugh. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@lungbarrow639]

Cool to hear you'll be back in the states. When you are in Austin I'd recommend hitting up Vegan Nom and Project Pollo for some delicious vegan food!

[@2fast2block]

Austin does have good places like that. Cosmic though is still a dolt. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@MindoftheNorthStar]

This would be the biggest heel turn in history

[@jamienorth8028]

Sometimes these things happen when people are intellectually honest, and actually care about the truth.

[@truthserum3050]

@@jamienorth8028 Or in the case that Alex becomes christian, "what he thinks to be the truth."

[@MindoftheNorthStar]

@@jamienorth8028 Being intellectually honest and caring about the truth is what got me out of Christianity. I absolutely can't see those things leading to Christianity. Edit: or any religion for that matter

[@alcibiadesonthestreets]

@@MindoftheNorthStar and additionally intellectually consistent. How much evidence would you need that the home you bought is worth the price, and that there's nothing wrong with it? Would you just take the seller's word for it? Would you hire someone to scrutinize every detail so you can be 100% sure? Then why accept the fate of your soul based on a few parables? Is it less important than your house?

[@docdaytona108]

It stands to reason SOME well-known atheist / skeptic of the KZbin age will eventually convert / revert. Just a numbers game. And, like Christian charlatans, it’s also likely one already has but must perpetuate a lie in public, in the interest of salvaging social circles and their primary income source. The only thing believers and nonbelievers will always have in common, if they’re being honest, is that whisper of doubt.

[@stevencurtis7157]

I can't even get to _"are you doing what Christians ask of you?"_ because Christianity is far from the only religion. I had to distance myself from my own childhood of taking Christianity for granted, and I came away from that not with some preference for a religion that seemed better aligned with reality but with a feeling of even my own original religion being completely alien to me. I was in some cases unfazed and in others unfamiliar with the beliefs within Catholicism, but now all of it sounds just as random a set of ideas as any other cultural ritual. I can't justify studying the bible without either committing to studying every other scripture or explaining why I can exclude them. I'm not going to study any mythology without a damned good reason because that would be my own personal hell, and I can't think of a single reason why any of the most common religions of history are less likely than any other. I actually tend toward thinking that polytheistic religions make more sense than monotheistic, though their likelihood still sits far below Marvel properties.

[@derektilley669]

I agree. Putting this kind of effort into Christianity is a non starter unless you plan to devote the same effort into the other 4000 religions. Unless there is some evidence that already presupposes that Christianity is more likely true.

[@sturmgewehr4471]

there are many religions, but like 99% of them are polytheistic like Hinduism, Greco-Roman pantheon, Norse mythology etc. right of the bat they are rejected, then there are non-theistic religions like Buddhism which if one believes God exists they are false also, then there are religions that even though they are monotheistic they are ethno religions like Sikhism and Judaism, so they are irrelevant to us, the real choice is really between Islam and Christianity

[@Soapy-chan_old]

Also they don't understand that there are thousands of different christian sects and it doesnt make sense to just randomly select one of them because someone of that particular one asked you to.

[@joshuaklein8429]

This was something I went through during my deconversion as well. Like, before I left my original faith I had just written every other one off as untrue, but could I really do that if I now thought my old faith was also untrue? How many religions would I need to cycle through to find the truth? Frankly, shouldn’t it also be maybe a little easier than that to come to a conclusion about which, if any, are true? It would be paralyzing to go through everything in its entirety in the way the followers say you ought to do it to really experience the religion. In a way, it all circles back to the divine hiddenness argument albeit with some adjustments. If there is a god that wants me to know it exists, it would make it at least somewhat clear. Maybe a deity does exist and doesn’t want me to know. I’m either case, I can’t possibly worship or believe in something that isn’t demonstrated, nor could I do so with something I can’t find. When so many millions of people think they already know the answer, they can’t all be completely right, but they could all be somewhat or completely wrong. Better to withhold belief than to believe a false thing.

[@stevencurtis7157]

@Kiki Kiki Well, that's just wrong.

[@maxstrange7606]

Alex, I appreciate your honesty.

[@msjkramey]

I invite ppl to my church because I like it and want to share it. I only "converted" one friend who was just a different type of Christian. Everyone else stayed as they were--atheist, pagan, or otherwise. My bf is an atheist that occasionally gets a little spiritual. He wishes he believed sometimes but he just doesn't and that's fine. Freedom of religion needs to include freedom from religion too

[@msjkramey]

@@fed3903 you'd have to be dumber? What a stuck up view. Theology doesn't determine intelligence

[@margaretbarrett6087]

Wow, a non judgemental christian - a rarity in these debates 👍

[@emilia9756]

@@fed3903 I was raised agnostic/atheist (very anti-Abrahamic religions) and I am a very religious Christian nowadays. It did take time and there was a lot of emotional resistance before I converted, but it was probably the best thing that ever happened to me.

[@fed3903]

@@emilia9756 What made you believe in Yaweh?

[@JDT101]

@@emilia9756 I would also like to hear

[@davidmaskey203]

Another fantastic video. I’m a Christian and go into discussions with atheists in the same way. Love your genuinely humble and respectful approach. All the best to you.

[@a.39886]

When people bring a child into the world, it is most likely that he will end up being condemned to hell, which is established in the bible in Matthew 7: 13-14. “13 You can only enter the kingdom of God through the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to hell; That is why many people prefer them. 14 But small is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to life, and very few people find it." There is no way that as mere humans we can guarantee that if we have children they will go to heaven, so we will be responsible for allowing them to come into the world and then their future eternal torture in hell and damnation. Even those who try to search cannot because Satan, other evil religions, the world and the flesh itself are doing everything possible to condemn them to hell for eternity from the moment they are born. James 1:14-15 1 "14 But each one is tempted, when he is drawn away and enticed by his own lust. 15 Then lust, after it has conceived, gives birth to sin; and sin, being finished, gives birth to to light death. John 2:16: “men alienated from God governed by their passions, by the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and by the pride of life” Luke 13:23-24. 23 Someone asked him, "Lord, are there few who are saved?" And he replied, 24 “Do your best to enter through the narrow gate, because I tell you that many will try to enter and will not be able to do so. Now if we as humans deal with this truth here on earth, and we are aware that except for terrible cases of abuse, every other conception and life that comes into the world is consensual in the intimate act, we cannot say that nobody forced us to bring children into the world, it was we ourselves who brought them into the world and if they end up being condemned, we would be part of that process since we could choose not to become intimate in the flesh, either in sin or within marriage. Being an omniscient God, that is to say, he has perfect wisdom and knowledge of what is going to happen and even despite knowing that most of the population was going to be condemned to hell, he allowed existence to continue even when he could have avoided all the pain and suffering of hell for the majority of his creation. First with Adam and Eve knowing that they were going to eat the forbidden fruit and then with Noah exterminating the world through the flood and saving his life and his family. Genesis 2:16-17 “16 Then the LORD God commanded the man, “You may freely eat from any tree in the garden, 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for on the day you do, you will surely die.” Genesis 6:7 “7 Then the LORD said, “I will wipe the human being whom I have created from the face of the earth. I will destroy human beings, domestic animals, those that crawl on the ground and the birds of the sky because I am sorry I made them.” are you forced to bring children to the world? n

[@khangnam6420]

You are the most honest skeptic I've ever encountered, you are open-minded and clearly not obsessed over naturalism. I'm glad I have faith in you and and clearly it's paid off

[@daikucoffee5316]

Can I ask what the problem with naturalism is in your view?

[@whaddupbrooo]

Any chance that we get a short, fun, maybe more casual video with the Christian friends you stayed with, or those that you speak privately with, on how your friendship with them has challenged or changed their own experience with faith and Christianity? :-) They might be private people of course, which is fine! I just think that you do a really commendable and gracious job of seeking, and I appreciate the intellectual honesty and candor you bring, so as a Christian I'd be curious to hear from your friends - if all parties are willing of course, no pressure! Just think it'd be a fascinating and bridge-building sort of video :-)

[@2fast2block]

He's not seeking, he only lies that he is. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@chasekoop1122]

Even if one takes nothing else away from this video I think it's definitely very valuable to be reminded to keep yourself intellectually honest and to do everything in your power to address these philosophical questions with as close to openness as any of us can get.

[@2fast2block]

Cosmic is not being honest. He's not even doing a good job pretending. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@chasekoop1122]

@@2fast2block dude, you don't even need science to get around the opening chapters in Genesis. That story was never meant to be taken literally it was old Hebrew poetry. In regards to the supernatural, one does not assume it to be true unless it can be demonstrated which it has not. And the simple reality is nobody knows what preceded the big bang. Perhaps it was something supernatural, perhaps it wasn't but we have nothing to indicate thus except for demonstrably false religious texts. I am curious though how can you state that somebody is being dishonest when you do not know the person or their motivations?

[@chasekoop1122]

@@2fast2block additionally unless you're just pulling your ideas creationist sites as opposed to peer-reviewed science there isn't such thing as a law of biogenesis. Seriously dude, do better.

[@2fast2block]

@@chasekoop1122 hey nitwit, for more laughs copy and paste how you got around the science I gave and what it proved. In your devotion to being pointless, you forgot that part. Must be horrible being braindead as you are.

[@c.b.5104]

Im an atheist but I also draw so I see this immense beauty in religion and it's texts. Though I don't dare delve in exploring the Quran for the sake of my head, it's undeniable how intertwined spirituality, religion and the duality of humanity has been part or the main course in some of the best works of art in history. Be it a novel, architecture or a painting, a manga, I find the concept very beautiful, even in the gratuitous violence it sometimes presents, because I don't have to take it literally but rather metaphorically. So when a Christian asks me, we often delve into conversation about art and I end up saying the beautiful interpretations rather than debunking the literacy or truth of its contents. Although I do get that it is important to question it, I simply found it not worth it (personally) a long time ago. So you could say I am often willing to convert.

[@YMe-hp7hi]

Never leave a rock unturned in search for the Truth. Give every ideology the the benefit of doubt. If nothing else perhaps you gain intellectual benefits.

[@littlebitofhope1489]

C. B. Hanna and Jake have a series on the Quran. I find it much easier to digest when someone else is reading and discussing it.

[@c.b.5104]

@@YMe-hp7hi It's not about that. It's just that people tackling the Quran have a reputation of not being alive afterwards 💀

[@2fast2block]

Why do you dolts love to pretend you look for truth? So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@proudatheist2042]

@Kiki Kiki it's ironic that you state "The OPs head will be fine" when you can't even use the correct form of "your." You even misspelled LOL.

[@tomsdottir]

Looking back to when I lost my faith, aged 15, it happened because I started attending a school where religious education was taught like any other subject. In other words, we learned the 'theoretical basis' of all of the major world religions and many of the ancient ones. There was something about realizing that millions of people fervently believed - or had believed - something completely different from me, that made me realise that my beliefs were a product of the time and place in which I was born and raised, *and nothing else*. I recommend this practice to my Christian friends.

[@raquanwilliams5572]

Absolutely feel you here homie! It completely loses its mystique once you realize it isn’t actually anything special. It just happens to be the big 3, but there are thousands of others

[@alexjose1587]

You never where in the faith in the first place and if you are your in the faith till the end and Jesus is the only way to heaven

[@2fast2block]

@@raquanwilliams5572 yeah, you braindead people can relate. How sweet. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@Soapandwater6]

Education is key. 👍🏻

[@kostpap3554]

No offence, but this says nothing about the veracity of any religion, view, or belief for that matter. If any of us were raised in a different way and developped a different personality, our views would probably have been different. But this says nothing about the veracity of our views. If anything, it only speaks of how we got there.

[@FreedomforAfricans]

Haven’t watched your videos in a couple of years, just dropped by to mention how much your appearance has changed!

[@2fast2block]

Still, he's braindead. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@jonathanwilcock71]

You are a good bloke Alex. Good luck on your search. You are honest and the truth will find you... it’s a person by the way 🙏

[@viqala9159]

I have to say (I'm a Catholic) that I respect this approach a lot. We're all born with/are given different tools, different personalities, different experiences, so we all both face different paths, and take different approaches in them. So there will be people who will take these very rigorous journeys seeking the truth. Others will be born into the faith, and others will never even encounter faith at all. Some people will think they've taken a rigorous journey when in reality they never wanted a god to exist, and they're fine justifying their personal rejection of any faith through watching some documentary and laughing about a flying spaghetti monster and ranting how religions are the source of all evil etc etc. What I like in Alex's approach, is that it looks actually rigorous and honest to me. And it doesnt seem like he just found a way to dunk on people he finds inferior to him for a living and to boost his ego (as a lot of atheist content seems to me). Of course there's some ego and pride involved in being good at intellectual debates, but i dont see it dominating over the opennes and intellectual honesty. And particularly what I like in this as a Catholic, is that from the pov of my faith system, I believe a person who is not part of the Church, but is in the honest process of seeking the truth, I believe that CAN possibly result in their salvation outside the Church. One should never hope for that like this for themselves, and use that as a "loophole" to reject the Church and live whatever life they want, but we can hope for it for others who have nit found faith or have not accepted it, but are in their truth seeking process. so I really do hope for it for people like Alex, if not for their actual conversion.

[@motiontempo7315]

Ive been going to church every Sunday and hanging around christians for 2 years now and I still haven't "found" god. Behaving as he exists has changed my life for the better but I still feel a longing for the love most christians describe. I find the relationship aspect extremely challenging but I don't think I will ever stop trying, feels like at the end of the day (My life) Love might be all I have left. ANYWAYS LOL! Thank you for another great video Alex, love watching you and your channel grow over the years! Your intelligence and respectful nature is truly inspiring! Keep up the good fight!

[@scottgrohs5940]

Take it from someone that did it for 26 years in both fundamentalism and mainline approach, it doesn’t exist. You will never find it. Only emotionality during certain fleeting church-directed moments.

[@2fast2block]

That's why I stay out of churches. They must have a sign, "Turn off your phones and brains before entering." That being said, they are not as braindead as Cosmic. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@languageteachingtruth.6952]

Some people, some saints even, never get to feel the love, but they do their part to the best of their abilities. Mother Teresa is one such example. She spent 40 years without consolation, if I recall correctly.

[@motiontempo7315]

@MarisaHoare yes I am now Catholic

[@motiontempo7315]

@@MarisaHoare sometimes, always a challenge but for me now it's the only way

[@Bill..N]

ANOTHER very interesting video Alex, I'll look forward to your debates.. Insights provided by QM (And QFT) certainly point to a universe that is NOT deterministic and therefore the first premise of the Kalam cosmological argument IS violated.. There does not need to be a so-called "First mover" .. That argument REMAINS convincing, and if Everett was right that's another direct refutation of the first premise.. Excellent content here, thanks..

[@2fast2block]

Cosmic is a fake for F00LS that believe him. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@mechanomics2649]

1:36 To directly confront and combat their ideals, misinformation, or rhetoric otherwise. Debates here online aren't just between debaters in a vacuum , there is an audience. Debates can expose others to one's ideals (and possibly convince them), give them the tools to combat ideals and rhetoric themselves, and further understanding by contrasting one set of ideals with another.

[@2fast2block]

There is no debate, Cosmic is a dolt. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@madnessoverload7824]

Christians always tell us to "seek God" but whenever we genuinely do that and still end up unconvinced, they tell us that we're doing it wrong. For them, the only "correct" way of seeking god is to basically pretend that he exists and then look at the world through that lens until you convince yourself that he is real. Sorry, but i'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna assume the conclusion and then nitpick the arguments that fit that conclusion. If God truly loved me, he would understand my reasoning and provide me with the evidence that he knows will convince me. I also want God to be real, but definitely not the christian god, because i don't want a majority of the human population to end up in hell for not following his dumb rules.

[@samtheman7860]

Why does it have to be a logical thing? If you feel it and it helps you live better, is that not all that matters?

[@pointbreak8646]

Exactly! Believers have convinced themselves a god exists. All this holy spirit nonsensethat comes with it is ridiculous and the seek and ye shall find is a strange one. Why does it all have to be so cryptic with god. Physical demonstrable evidence is what I want, not an argument that a god exists. When these miracle healers pray to god for an amputees limb to suddenly appear and it does I may think there is something there. The next thing is to prove a god was responsible for it. God is man made and the fact that billions dont think so absolutely baffles me!

[@madnessoverload7824]

@@samtheman7860 Feelings can be very deceiving. Even if i felt it, i would have no way to tell if i'm truly feeling it or if i just convinced myself that i'm feeling it. But that's just how i see it. If other people are convinced by that feeling, more power to them.

[@smegmalasagna]

@@madnessoverload7824 I also hold that mindset. Delusions are a thing, hence why i’m not interested in purely going with my feelings.

[@samtheman7860]

@@madnessoverload7824 so you never trust your feelings? How far do you take that skepticism? You should read about the Christian mystics for more clarity on this.

[@Listoric]

If I've ever seen a Mii-Verse face in real life, it has to be yours. The first few seconds just look like a "Mii to Human" AI prediction. Apart from that, great content as ever :3

[@2fast2block]

Great content?! So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@Listoric]

​@@2fast2block So your argument sounds like: science right now can't explain everything, therefore god. Consider this: Before you can even try to give god as an answer, you must proof that the answer is possible. Unless you've proven the supernatural to be real, you can't assume it to be a solution to the problem. Even if you were to prove the supernatural in general is a real thing, you'd have to prove that supernatural gods are a real thing and on top of that, that a god did it and finally which one - if you'd claim a certain god did it ofc. Or to put it into an analogy: If you investigate a murder and have a hunch that the murderer was my pink dotted unicorn, you first need to proof that fairytale animals exist (as right now, we don't have any proof for that), then you'd need to proof for unicorns existence (because proofing that e.g. fairies exist is nice, but not really the task) and then proof that there are pink dotted unicorns among the unicorns, and finally that it was mine who did it. Until you've not done any of the above, it's just you having a hunch.

[@2fast2block]

@@Listoric "So your argument sounds like: science right now can't explain everything, therefore god." Your lie does not change the science I gave and what it proves. "Unless you've proven the supernatural to be real, you can't assume it to be a solution to the problem." I did prove it to be real. You ignoring it does not change that. "Even if you were to prove the supernatural in general is a real thing..." Look, it's clear you are ignoring what I gave. You're clearly a doofus who has nothing to tackle what I gave. You did a great job at showing that.

[@georgejessup7938]

Looking forward to the debate!

[@2fast2block]

As if Cosmic has any truth. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@georgejessup7938]

@@2fast2block yeaaaaahhhhhj...... just no. All the laws of thermodynamics suggest is that we moved from a state of extremely high energy and density to this current one which we are perceiving. The thing about science is that pretty much any mundane explanation is more likely than a supernatural one. I'd be more likely to believe that our current universe is the result of a super advanced alien race mucking up a science experiment which caused some sort of massive black hole to suck up all the matter in the universe before exploding. I have no evidence to support this, but that's kind of the point neither do you.

[@2fast2block]

@@georgejessup7938 in your devotion to being a nitwit, you forgot to get around the science I gave. If you feel you did that, give me more laughs and do what I said. "yeaaaaahhhhhj...... just no." No science there. "All the laws of thermodynamics suggest is that we moved from a state of extremely high energy and density to this current one which we are perceiving. " If you could read, which you can't, I did write...The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. "The thing about science is that pretty much any mundane explanation is more likely than a supernatural one. I'd be more likely to believe that our current universe is the result of a super advanced alien race mucking up a science experiment which caused some sort of massive black hole to suck up all the matter in the universe before exploding. I have no evidence to support this, but that's kind of the point neither do you." None of that was science. It did prove though how stooo-pid you love to be. Does that make you feel better? You did prove something.

[@dynamic9016]

Interesting video by Alex.

[@WillHD3]

I've always considered something similar to reasonable disbelief to be the best argument against Christianity specifically. Asking a Christian if there are any honest atheists really gets at the point well. If one is being honest in trying to get to the truth (regardless if they are being unreasonable) but can't find it, what judgement should befall them?

[@TuckerWilson12]

Can confirm this being the best argument. Brought it up to an apologetics livestreamer on Tiktok once and they spent like 20 minutes talking in circles and not committing to agreeing with 100% reasonable statements... all so that they could maintain their God's goodness in the face of (possibly) honest non-belief.

[@2fast2block]

Atheistic types are not honest. They're plain stooo-pid by their choice. The bible makes it clear Jesus is the only way to salvation. You can laugh at that all you want and throw out the bible as if it's a joke, but the joke will be on them. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Psalms 14:1 "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoSYk6h9o62JkNk Hell is not eternal... kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWPIe5iorteEm6s kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWjGoZ-GYsxlrJo So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@Ken_Scaletta]

Islam actually has a answer to this. Any honest attempt to look for God counts as faith. some Christian denominations say similar things. They have to ignore the Bible to do it, though, which is the bane of progressive Christianity in general. (for the record, I'm an atheist. I was raised Christian but it never took. I never bought it even as a little kid).

[@zero8388]

I found the answer to this question In Jeremiah 29:12-13 "in those days when you pray, I will listen. If you look for me wholeheartedly, you will find me." I think the issue is that people who seek God and don't find him are not seeking wholeheartedly. If you are seeking until you tire of it then you aren't truly devoting your life to finding God. Your just looking until it's inconvenient, which is not a wholehearted search. Also, lets say you wanted to get to know someone but you weren't on good terms with them. Does that make any sense at all? You need to believe God is real and sent Jesus to save us from our sins and ask him to forgive our sins. Then you are right with God. This is when the relationship really starts and when you can start finding God.

[@WillHD3]

@@zero8388 So would you say there are no non-believers that have sought God whole-heartedly as long as they lived? For example, if Alex had walked out of that debate and (god forbid) was hit by a truck and died, what should his judgement be?

[@WillEhrendreich]

I respect the hell out of you, man. I want so badly for you to meet God in a way that is compelling, and I quite frankly don't have any idea why it hasn't happened yet, but I am glad that you are as full of integrity as you are. Thank you.

[@WillEhrendreich]

@Kyanide sure there is, and I'm fairly sure that Alex has agreed to that in the past. There's tons of objective evidence, it just doesn't seem to be convincing to you, or perhaps you've not been shown it, but it's there. The Kalam, the fine tuning of the universe for intelligent life, the argument from moral realism, the modal ontological argument, the many arguments from contingency, the empty tomb of Jesus, the post mortem appearances of Jesus to over 500 of his followers at once, the otherwise inexplicable conversion of Paul, the explosion of the early Christian church despite the Nero's of the ancient world, etc, etc. Again, you might not believe that God the best explanation of of these things, or that he rightly follows as logically necessary from the arguments, but to say that those aren't evidence is honestly just not true.

[@2fast2block]

He's a fake. Why do you pretend too that you're looking? So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@albsol3478]

Shut up clown

[@MrCmon113]

It's because I met your god first. She's my little sex toy now and the atheists can't have her.

[@nunyabiz2889]

Im a Christian who is struggling at the moment. I find these talks very interesting and am happy they are out there. I haven't walked away from faith, and am not an atheist by any stretch, but i have questions and feel that listening to both sides is a good idea, in my personal journey. Thank you for these insightful words, sir. Im still on a journey, and you are helping me along.

[@BeyondSlowMotion]

Man I wish I had known you were coming through Houston sooner. I would have definitely planned around being an audience member in that debate. How can I better follow your live event stuff so I don't miss these things?

[@2fast2block]

You can listen to his lies as much as you like. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@zuglymonster]

I spent a very long time, especially after my SO died trying to convince myself there is a God there is a Heaven and he'll be there when I die. Although it's probably for the best I didn't convince myself because if I FULLY 100% was sure Heaven was real I'd probably have tried to die. I'd love to have the comfort that many Christians have, I'd love to have a community like church members do, but I can't convince myself of it. If I was given real proof right now, God appeared to me, spoke to me and proved he wasn't just my hallucination I'd be a Christian.

[@Ali_0h]

The evidence for the existence of God is everywhere around you if only you look within thouself.

[@c.guydubois8270]

@@Ali_0h I'm calling bullshit...

[@c.guydubois8270]

I couldn't/wouldn't be a Christian, there are too many counterfactuals for the existence of any deity and that one as described is an abomination.

[@gerila1285]

Christianity is not about comfort lol

[@helvete_ingres4717]

@@gerila1285 yep that's one of the most insipid standard atheist projections; that's all they can get out of spirituality as an idea, therefore that's what it's about. It's right there in the Christian story at the important part, you don't have to look far - Jesus says on the cross 'father, why have you forsaken me?' and is left to die. Where exactly is the 'comfort' in that?

[@EnglishMike]

As an atheist, I'm willing to entertain the idea there is something more to this universe than what can be seen, but the closer you get to Christianity, or any religion currently believed in by human beings, the more I am convinced it cannot possibly be true. For example, is it possible our existence continues after death? Almost certainly not, but I guess there's a tiny chance of some form of afterlife -- more likely technological in nature than spiritual (e.g. we currently live in a Matrix Universe). But once you start talking about an afterlife where you either get to spend an eternity in Heavenly bliss or burn forever in a hellish torment based entirely on whether you happened to be born in the right place at the right time to become a Christian before you die -- well, that's just ridiculously dumb.

[@ZachFish-]

I think “you get to spend your life connected with God or you don’t” would be a more accurate view.

[@MrWoaaaaah]

As a Christian, I think the version of Chrisitanity you're presenting is ridiculously dumb too.

[@zombieperson3695]

@@MrWoaaaaah what about it have you found dumb?

[@ZachFish-]

@@MrWoaaaaah You are either being brought back into union with God, loving him, or you aren’t. What would you suppose?

[@rebelresource]

I would say that most Christians I know also think that worldview is dumb

[@brittybee6615]

As an agnostic tettering on the edge of both theism and atheism, if I could pick a ‘debate,’ as it were, or at least a conversation, I’d like to hear you and Paul VanderKlay talk.

[@2fast2block]

You're not looking, you like pretending you are, like Cosmic. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@eastpoetry]

Always a pleasure Alex looking forward to your new content. One day when Lowly ok me gets recognized in your comment section I would love to have a discussion with you. And do look forward to the day you claim Christianity. Just know… plenty of people to debate that are atheists once you do. So you’d have ample content still to create. 🤔

[@2fast2block]

Cosmic likes to pretend as if he's looking. He'd rather have his head up his A$$. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@KaiHenningsen]

I've never in my 62 years (as far as I can remember) been tempted even slightly to believe in God - the arguments I heard never rose, for me, to the level of being able to take them seriously, let alone being convincing. None of them did. There's no way for me to even start even taking that seriously, under these conditions. I'm equally motivated to look for a relationship with God as to look for a relationship with the tooth fairy, that is, not at all. Even more so as based on the Bible, if he existed, it seems he would be a thoroughly problematic character, and distancing oneself would seem to be wise: many people have remarked that the way God behaves in the Bible has disturbing similarities to how abusive spouses behave.

[@MrCmon113]

The church-god relationship is exactly that of a battered wife and her husband. Christians constantly try to come up with excuses for tgeir abusive god.

[@languageteachingtruth.6952]

Eh... no abusive spouse went on a cross for someone else.

[@davib.franco7857]

It's just stupid, no offense

[@BramSLI1]

Alex is one of the most genuine atheists I've ever known. He is a real testament to our ideology and demonstrates that genuine interest in the opposing view, along with a strong foundation in logic and reason, are the only way to approach these fundamental topics.

[@martin_hristov]

Our ideology? Atheism isn't an ideology

[@costinilie8178]

what ideology?

[@johnchesterfield9726]

What ideology?

[@Brian-pr1dq]

What ideology?

[@glof2553]

@@costinilie8178 the ideology of atheism, which has and always will be a positivistic ideology that asserts that No God exists or can exist. "Lack of belief" is purely a rhetorical tactic used for rhetorical purposes and nothing else. There's a reason the "lack of belief" definition is not taken seriously in academe, and even the smart alecks in this comment chain rhetorically asking "what ideology?" do not earnestly "lack a belief" because if they did, they would not have considered the positions or even be involved in the conversation in the first place. Good on you OP for acknowledging that atheism is an ideology. Alex is a solid proponent and defender of the ideology of atheism, I will agree with you there. Happy Saturday.

[@lucianajera8214]

I wish you could do a video on catherine of siena,I feel like I need some insight in the topic because one thing that kind of keeps me doubting and considering christianity is all these archives about historical characters that performed miracles etc.

[@horaciocruz6970]

Interesting monologue. Good on you, sir

[@2fast2block]

Not good. Fake. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@irone7049]

You think it would be wonderful if someone died for your sins? I don't think so. One of the worst things about religion is that it can convince a large group of decent people that an obviously immoral idea can be considered beautiful.

[@greylonewolf8750]

To be charitable, that someone is Lord Jesus,not just anybody. BTW,I'm an agnostic/atheist Exmuslim.

[@emilia9756]

Sacrifices will always be necessary, though. Jesus decided Himself to sacrifice His life here, in our material world, for the sake of humanity. There is something very moving about selflessness like that and I don't think the beauty of His sacrifice should be brushed off so easily. Life back in the day was just a lot harsher for people than it is nowadays in the Western world, people died often and very brutally. Death was everywhere and there was no closing your eyes and thinking about other things.

[@gaming4life788]

@@greylonewolf8750 from your name you don't sound like a Muslim

[@greylonewolf8750]

@@gaming4life788 I was a Muslim. BTW,Ardashir is my pseudonym.

[@MrCmon113]

@@emilia9756 Your god killed part of itself temporarily to somewhat still it's own bloodlust. That doesn't make it better, it just makes weirder.

[@detoutetapensey]

Hi bro. I am a theist and a Cameroonian. I can’t remember how I fell on your work. But I was stroke by your honesty, your humility and your graciousness so much so that I had to subscribe. I have been following you for two years now. I really admire you. I am skeptical about many of your ideologies, like say determinism, no objective moral values or veganism. Yet it has made me think a lot. So much so that I have sometimes seen myself making a case for a kinda veganism to my friends whom I thought were so immoral with animals I am working hard to be as smart as you. You are kinda of a model to me. I pray for ya.

[@2fast2block]

He's not smart but just a fake. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@JCW7100]

Alex is so compelling I even enjoyed the advert

[@2fast2block]

He's a fake. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@roebbiej]

I have so much respect for you. I'm very curious how your next 5 years of your live will pan out

[@Dragoon803]

Great video. You really got me thinking as an ex evangelical myself and I really appreciate that. I would say I'm open to there possibly being a creator God, but I am not sure if I could ever go back to Christianity. For one I find the historical evidence for the truth of the Gospels to be incredibly shaky. I've listened to historians and looked up the historic facts myself and simply found the evidence for Christ raising from the dead to be lacking. I find that when the evidence is scrutinized it simply doesn't hold up. When I realized that I would have to believe in Christ based on faith and not facts that was the moment my belief in Christianity and God began to crumble. It was at that moment that I became open to the idea that maybe my beliefs were false and that they should be critically assessed if I was to find the truth. I've never held that faith is a good measure of truth. To me if something is true then the facts will speak for themselves. No faith needed. Another huge issue for me is the old testament itself. Particularly where the genocide and slavery as dictated by God himself is concerned. The Bible is clear that God himself was the one giving the instructions and they are not ambiguous instructions. I've had to watch so many Christians make excuses and bad arguments on Biblical slavery and genocide and it makes me genuinely sad every time. I hate watching good people make excuses for the horrible deeds dictated by God himself. As I said earlier I could be open to hearing evidence for a creator God, but even if it were the Christian God unless He himself were to renounce those laws and deeds and to correct them then I could not worship him. I could never be ok with a God that thinks it's ok to own other human beings as property nor would I ever be ok with a being that thinks genocide of another people is a just and right thing to do. The last thing I'll mention is the issue of religious dogma. The insistence that X religion was dictated by God and therefore is perfect and can't ever be changed doesn't sit well with me and didn't even when I was a Christian. When a flaw or contradiction is found in the text instead of being able to correct the flaw one must instead accept it and find a way to justify it. After all it's not a human idea it's the idea of God and God is perfect. Contrast this to the sciences where something is true in so far as we have facts and evidence supporting it. When those facts change such as when new evidence and discoveries are found we then change the theory or hypothesis to fit the facts. In religion you must change the facts to fit God's word because God is perfect and nothing can contradict his word. God's word is truth so any facts that contradict that must be false themselves. This to me is a critical flaw of religion and it's one of the biggest reasons I am an Atheist.

[@ytxmak]

I enjoyed reading your comments. They made me think that if we did an honest OPCVL analysis on any of the 'sacred texts', we'd find they have a very dodgy provenance indeed.

[@ibibo3146]

Slavery was not dictated by God neither do the old nor new testaments recommend slavery.

[@ibibo3146]

Slavery was not dictated by God neither do the old nor new testaments recommend slavery.

[@tylertyler6418]

@@ibibo3146 further more the slavery in the Bible was not similar to the modern slavery of African Americans, which was brutal. People go into it without historical context and only with their preconceived notions.

[@ibibo3146]

@@tylertyler6418 Very true it feels like gaslighting most times and yet none theist belief systems have caused human sufferings yet they never reject democracy, atheism capitalism, communisim, or any other ideologies because of what people had done and are still doing upholding these ideologies.

[@exiled_londoner]

As I get older I find myself both becoming more tolerant of some people and more forgiving of their human failings, but also getting less tolerant of others and more condemnatory of their utter stupidity. I suppose this comes from a realisation that my youthful certainties were often arrogant and unjustified, and also from gaining greater experience of life and understanding that many people are put under enormous strain and pressure and are often denied access to information and education, and so expecting them to always have the capacity to analyse and assess things correctly is unreasonable. However, our smart-arsed young Oxonian friend Mr O'Connor is blessed with a keen and probing intelligence, a high quality education, and the gift of the gab, so he has few, if any, excuses for his failings. Therefore he should stop waffling around the issue of empiricism and accept the self-evident and obvious reality that philosophy is incapable of proving or disproving questions of scientific fact... what is physically true and what is not. Fact claims (eg. that there is a creator god, that Jesus was brought back from the dead, that Mohammed was the divinely ordained and final prophet of Allah, that all gods are merely manifestations of Vishnu/Shiva, that the world exists on the mouldering cadaver of the slain Frost Giant Ymir... etc.) can only be proven by empirical evidence, not by morality or philosophy or any of the 'soft' sciences. And whilst I don't discount the importance of philosophy as a tool for investigating motivations and social interactions and morality, it plays no part in establishing what is actually true as a matter of physical, scientific, fact. Just stating this self-evident truth at the beginning of a debate or lecture should save an awful lot of time.

[@claude2571]

I disagree. I think that philosophy and hard sciences like physics are both based on mathematical thinking, or at least they should be. Both have the potential to be infinitely complex. Dogma in philosophy is just poor philosophy

[@ZachFish-]

So are you saying you have no shot in believing a god exist because it isn’t provable by observational science..?

[@exiled_londoner]

@@claude2571 - Well, I've never come across the notion that philosophy should be based on maths before. I'm not a philosopher or a mathematician myself and although I agree that both can be hugely complex (infinitely so...?) I don't see how a philosophical argument can be turned into a mathematical equation or formula that could be considered as empirical proof, capable of being tested through the Scientific Method. But it's an interesting idea.

[@exiled_londoner]

@@ZachFish-I don't know what "no shot" means. I don't believe any gods exist because there is no good evidence for them... that's it.

[@ZachFish-]

@@exiled_londoner I’m just trying to understand, because it seems that so many atheist channels are just saying “there is no observational science that tells me a god exist”. I don’t think that’s really what your comment was about though, I was just wondering.

[@gewoongeert_]

Hey Alex, I just found out about your channel 12 hours ago and i'm still watching cause it seems I'm in the same boat as you in terms of (dis)belief. Is there any chance of you talking to Frank Turek again in the future? I just watched your radio interview from 6 years ago with him and since I really love how Frank Turek explains things, I think thats the best video I've seen so far and would absolutely love to see you talk to him again. Especially about your struggle on divine hiddenes. My guess is that Frank is pretty good at explaining a matter like that.

[@FannyAnzai]

Great video, we should all avoid the Doxastic Closured position in life, it would make impossible to find ourselves wrong ever. I'd love to chat with you about Atheism and the future of the movement.

[@2fast2block]

It's a movement of liars and F00LS. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@Sophialo1120]

Welcome to US! I'm happy to see people in "the Bible belt" engaging in intellectual conversations with those like you to explore viewpoints and worldviews they may not have ever been exposed to. Best wishes, a fellow nontheistic thinker of a decade (really lucky to have been exposed to your videos since you began your channel!)

[@2fast2block]

"a fellow nontheistic thinker" There is no such thing. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@NoInjusticeLastsForever]

You're as likely to go christian as you are to go back to paying for an animal to be stabbed for no reason. Logic before all else! ❤️

[@pnut3844able]

Animal stabbed for no reason? Are you referring to him going vegan? If so, meat eaters don't stab the animals themselves unless they're hunters, and it's not for no reason lol. It's to survive and live my dude. We have to eat. Also, if everyone went vegan, it wouldn't be viable. We couldn't sustain that amount of crops, plus the overpopulation of wild animals would mean they'd eat the crops even faster. Our society HAS to have the majority be meat eaters to survive.

[@elvancor]

"For no reason" isn't a fair representation. For one who doesn't extend his morals to other species, liking the taste of grilled meat is as good a reason as any.

[@Mandibil]

Or a tomato being stabbed for no reason right ?

[@garibaldi54]

@@Mandibil A tomato doesn't care about being stabbed or eaten, it doesn't have the capacity to.

[@JwalinBhatt]

@@elvancor Not extending morals to other species is an illogical thing to do. Since all animals have the capacity to suffer so it is only rational to extend our morals to them as well. But yes, given the illogical choice of not extending your morals, you can say you have a reason. But the same can be done for another human as well. If you choose not to extend your morals for a fellow human then you may as well kill and eat another human just for the fun/taste of it.

[@robertschwalb4469]

This was exactly the answer I expected, based on what you've said before.

[@2fast2block]

Cosmic is a liar pretending to care about truth. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@christiang4497]

You should have Dr. Josh Rasmussen on at some point. I love his approach to conversations with people on the other side of the isle.

[@2fast2block]

Cosmic just pretends. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@jaegrant6441]

For years, I did not believe yet I saw my parents' church and thought "you do you." However, I recently escaped a domestic violence relationship. I now can see how exactly Christianity mirrors a DV relationship. Every step and point is a way that an abuser manipulates and controls their victim. Most of this video points out, particularly 3:20, an m.o. of domestic violence. Also, that we need to be convinced we are "sinners" need saving from our "sins" . What sins? Look at the research. Young children are innately driven by love and a desire to help. Yes, we are selfish (something that goes with time.) We feel pain and hurt and may lash out in those moments. But our innate drives are not to "sin" We don't need any salvation. That is another m.o. of domestic violence abuse to keep people trapped in the relationship. To me now, there is no need for debate. Even if someone could convince me that Yahweh is real, I would reject him and the entire disgusting lies that Christianity must convince people of to keep them in control.

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

Brilliant comment. Same here, partner

[@kylekyle7386]

Religion poisons your mind, then tells you they have a cure. Just pay 10% of your wages before tax and if the Cult leader wants more money you better give or he will stand up on the podium and point at you that you are selfish. After church, your Cult leader will be eating at an all you can eat buffet at Golden Corral so he can stretch out his belly to a size 46 while ballooning to 310 pounds. Your tithing is putting Cult leaders into the grave faster than they can shove a chicken leg into their esophagus. Well on second though they drop dead on the second chicken leg.

[@jackaljade]

It's okay, no need to worry, alien overlords are our new Gods anyway.

[@bellumthirio139]

Quite a few nonsensical assumptions in your comment. First, the notion that children are driven by love and desire to help presupposes that the child knows how to act in a way that achieves those goals, this requires reflection on all possible outcomes, which is not something you can intuit. Second, selfishness does not wane with time lol. Although it may be convenient for you to assume so in this KZbin comment, it isn’t the case, especially considering tenable theses like psychological egoism.

[@jaegrant6441]

@@bellumthirio139 In the studies done on Young children, they are innately driven to try and help a person who seems to be struggling. They don't know how to help, but they are driven to come to the person and comfort them in their own way, without any sort of inflection or reasoning. Hence demonstrating my point that it is an innate drive rather than a considered one. There's also the evidence coming from anthropologists that it is our kind, loving nature that is the reason we are such a successful species. I agree that there are people in the world who struggle to empathise with another's struggle. But that for the vast majority of people as we age and discover that the world is a big place, we also realise that our self is small and that there are many others who occupy the world and are different, so self central views wane as we age. I have my own personal opinion, (as well as my bias towards the American culture), that suggests to me that it is the Christian narrative that keeps us selfish and mistrusting of our fellow humans. That when we get rid of the poison that is its message then we would have better relationships with our fellow humans and the planet in general. Christianity is a domestic violence relationship. Every step and message mirrors how a DV abuser keeps control over their victim. It is ok. You are ok. We are wonderful and loving creatures.

[@bmartinez7173]

I think I fall under the category of someone who wants to believe, the most anxiety provoking thought I can muster is that of dying, not of any pain which may come along with it, but the thought of no longer existing, fear of missing out as it were. How awesome would it be if I could live forever, If I could know all there is to know about the universe, If I could see my grandmother once again, unfortunately, the fact that I want to believe it so badly makes me doubt it that much more.

[@jns8393]

Do you really want to live forever? Sure, learning the 'secrets' of the universe etc would be great, but then what. It's not for me anyway.

[@ChickenNugget-zh9bn]

​@@jns8393 Life will be perfect in heaven, just as God promised that He will wipe away every tear in our eyes and just imagine all the fun activities we could be doing.

[@ChickenNugget-zh9bn]

@B Martinez you got the conviction buddy, remember if you come to Christ with a believing heart and believe in Him, you will be saved. Check out KJV verses there are many more. And guess what, once saved always saved, proof that nothing can ever separate you from the love of God once you have faith in Him.

[@GuitarDog_atx]

@@ChickenNugget-zh9bn Life doesn't sound perfect in heaven. Sounds like hell. Living with a angry stepfather who can read your thoughts and punishes the innocent for the crimes of others. He want's constant praise and worship. Read the bible, KJV or any version, you'd see that this god is not "love". He's horible. And didn't give a damn about 99.99% of the world's people.

[@salamaabid6923]

@@ChickenNugget-zh9bn what sort of fun can we have? Will there be metal gigs in heaven?

[@spursyspurs6968]

I am a Christian but I really do appreciate your search for truth because I have been on a similar journey, except I have clearly found a different conclusion. Very interesting how two people can look at the world without bias but end in two different places. But just because we have conclusions, doesn’t mean we stop the search for truth. Good luck friend!

[@ravenecho2410]

hope (cambridge? i forget which uk college it was...) has been awesome!

[@jonasfermefors]

Am I open to arguments that would make me a theist? Yes. Am I open to arguments for Christianity? Much more doubtful. Having heard so many versions of Christianity and having read the bible for myself I see no way I would worship the biblical God. I could possibly be convinced the Christian God exists, but I find the Christian God repellent, so I don't see that I could ever worship him.

[@johnendalk6537]

@@liam1561 define spiritual

[@supremeplatypus7192]

This is always a weird argument to me because like, you know you're condemning yourself to eternal hellfire if you don't right? Your only hope of causing some positive difference at that point is to try and get other people to worship him themselves to get them into paradise, sure it's a hellish world all of a sudden but there's quite literally nothing you can do about it, because god is maximally powerful, so standing up to him will do exactly nothing except earn you damnation. To be clear I am an atheist and don't believe that this world is the one we live in, but if it was you can bet I'd be on my knees praying for forgiveness from the moment I learned his existence, and attempting to convince my loved ones to do the same.

[@jonasfermefors]

@@supremeplatypus7192 The thing is that I can't make myself think the monster in the Bibel is worthy of worship and surely he would be able to see through insincere worship, so I'm damned whatever I do. Thankfully I am very secure in my conviction that the Abrahamic God does not exist, so that doesn't worry me in the least.

[@supremeplatypus7192]

@@jonasfermefors I'm taking the chance that he accepts abject terror as a suitable replacement for belief in his worthiness in that case lol. But yeah luckily I don't believe he exists either, though it does make me wonder how the fuck there are any chill Christians given what they believe

[@johnendalk6537]

@@liam1561 "A love for nature" - does that include loving the extreme pain and suffering animals are subjected to everyday? Constant fear and agony that they would be fed upon at any point of the day? Does that include loving that some young animals would be eaten within seconds after birth? I think the word has a lot of meaning because it's lack of meaning and people just use it to describe many things while it would be better to use the other words witj the intended meaning in it's place.

[@edenmilner1210]

That is such a brilliant approach to debates by going into them open to adopt the oppositions view if you are convinced enough. Debates seem to go no where sometimes 👀

[@pnut3844able]

Well seeing as Christianity hasn't changed since it's inception, it's fairly easy to realize you'll never be converted lol. Apologists have tried to rationalize it, but it can't be done.

[@aleksszukovskis2074]

@@pnut3844able Christianity has changed though, they only havent realised it yet. not with all the rabbits and santas

[@munstrumridcully]

Imo, these kind of debates (atheist vs. theist, scientifically literate people vs. science denying Young Earth Creationists) often go nowhere; and the audience usually declares whichever debater on the side of what they already believe to be the winner, is because-- IMHO --the apologists/YECreationists are not engaging in honest discourse. Imo; apologists and pseudo-science types see debates as a contest and are just trying to score points aimed at those who are already believers. Imo, the vast majority of apologists are not debating in good faith and use intellectually dishonest rhetorical tactics to sore those points in the eyes of those who already believe.

[@skeptischism1324]

Debates are pointless. Apologetics is pointless. IMHO anyway. A theist could debate an atheist and "win" then debate a different atheist and "lose". Some ppl are just better than others at argumentation. For me personally, I would need evidence. A sound argument doesn't equate to evidence, compelling or not.

[@sneakysnake2330]

@@skeptischism1324 Why does a sound argument not count as evidence? Doesn’t the conclusion of a sound argument necessarily have to be true?

[@onetruetroy]

I watch this channel and admire Alex for who he is and not for what he believes or the label he applies to himself. Personal beliefs are important for us to discover who we are and who we want to be. I was fascinated by the sciences and the scientific method from the age of 5. I was asked to leave Sunday school because I was “distracted”-asked too many questions the teacher couldn’t or wouldn’t answer. At the age of 9 I finally realized the importance of the scientific method and applied that to almost everything. I let my parents know at the age of 10 that I no longer had beliefs in the supernatural and if I had to believe in a god then it wouldn’t be the Judeo-Christian god. My father was furious and my mother gave me more books to read. I’ve never been angry or condescending about other’s beliefs; however, I don’t always respect a person’s choice of actions resulting from those beliefs. I can abide no religion or ideology that justifies harming another person in any way. I prefer to not label myself as an atheist, agnostic, etc. and happily pull knowledge and wisdom from all religions and ideologies. I value rational and empirical approaches, but will ponder any idea or claim with an open mind.

[@dohpam1ne]

I enjoyed your debate with Jonathan. (I'm the online question guy with the familiar last name.) I would have enjoyed hearing more back and forth about your argument from nonresistant nonbelief, as I'm sure you would have as well. Jonathan came up with some interesting responses, but at the end of the day, they more or less seemed to amount to assumptions. But the debate topic was rather broad, so it was a bit more breadth-focused rather than depth-focused. That's how it goes sometimes!

[@2fast2block]

It's easy to destroy Cosmic. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@dohpam1ne]

@@2fast2block I would highly recommend reading some good books from experts on the other side of this discussion. It is painfully obvious that you've gotten all of your information from apologetics sources and you're throwing around science buzzwords that you don't really understand.

[@2fast2block]

@@dohpam1ne no, I read and understand much of science. "It is painfully obvious that you've gotten all of your information from apologetics sources and you're throwing around science buzzwords that you don't really understand." And this is the science you gave to prove me wrong after bragging how much you know... (blank) Hey A$$, I kept it simple and gave BASIC science only a F00L doubts. Oh, gee, that means you're a F00L. Can you tell me what year you'll pull out the tail between your legs and tackle the science I gave? I know, you are a devoted nitwit and really have nothing.

[@N7_CommanderShepard]

Out of season April fools joke? Haha.

[@2fast2block]

No, he's really that stooo-pid. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@worldpeacepatriot9448]

As always , the impeccable , erudite and brilliant Alex O'Conner ! A most eloquent advocate of the truths based on evidence and not the delusion of faith based claims !

[@GuitarDog_atx]

I hope to meet you in Austin!

[@2fast2block]

Yeah, you two can have a stooo-pid meeting. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@JohnA.Zoidberg]

Debunking yourself is a great practice regardless. Everyone should do that more often. Be your own biggest critic. If you can't question your own viewpoints, you risk them becoming your religion. With a little luck, in that mindset, you learn what an absolute pleasure it is to be proven wrong on something. Because we'll all end up there at some point and it's a great and valuable learning experience.

[@ApPersonaNonGrata]

1:25 -1:38 So then ... the only people who should ever discuss, debate, challenge, or criticize the ideals, behaviors, and rationalizations behind Child-sex-traffickers or any other organized crime syndicates, is if they're open to joining them? Really?

[@user-uu2cj9ct3j]

Though I get the argument, there is a difference between debating philosophical beliefs versus arguing that one finds something morally wrong, and is trying to convince others of this belief.

[@ApPersonaNonGrata]

@@user-uu2cj9ct3j ​ @811414182梦见 Sure. There's a difference there. But he is talking, there, about: his ethic and a universal ethic that: anyone debating with Christians about really: anything at all to do with Christianity can only justify entering such a debate if they're open to joining Christianity provided that the Christian can provide a good enough reason to think Christianity is true; and merely by proving a "God" exists. So then that's always the overarching challenge and motivation for both parties; to see if the Christian can provide that. And the non-Christian must always have THAT as a reason and mindset for why they're even having any debated with Christians about literally anything that has to do with Christianity. He even phrased it in such a way that infers this applies to literally any group, with any ideology, values, practices, etc.. It's ridiculous. Even if Christianity weren't just: * a category of competing mafias, * running a common Racketeering Scheme, and * wrecking lives across the globe (with dramatically entitled impunity), * while EVERY debate that EVERY seasoned apologist enters in .. does so *in bad faith* (no pun intended), * while they habitually and premeditatedly gas light, as flying monkeys, * for a make-believe, malignantly Narcissistic mafia BOSS who "owns this town and everyone in it", * and MIGHT not have to torture and/or kill you (not necessarily in that order), if you'll quickly and fully surrender to the "moral authority" of whichever random sect happens to be pitching it, .. over every meaningful facet of your life, "or else", * and is nice enough to wait until LATER to talk about all the money and other personal sacrifices they'll be needing from you (all of which will personally benefit "the messengers" in some way), * while the progressives support the moderates, who support the extremists, ... -- -- Even if they weren't all that and worse, ... Alex's proposed Universal Ethic for all debaters, ... is among the least reasonable things I've ever heard him say. Although, he follows that up with something else equally unreasonable. He then conflates the generic of a "g/God" with the Christian "God" (a ploy he shouldn't even be letting THEM get away with; let alone doing that FOR them). And then he says he WISHES it were true, because he loves the idea of IT. And what is "it"? Being able to be wholly unethical, by evading all personal responsibility for his real AND imagined failings in life (the specific Christian Concept he was addressing), IF ONLY he really believed a "God" had arranged for that. To Hell (literally) with everyone in the world (since always) who that whole God-arrangement would unjustly screw over (and forever), if it benefits ALEX. So it's a shame, really, that he doesn't believe there is a "God", because then of course He would have THAT as his great plan for humanity.

[@scottguitar8168]

I think the belief in Santa Claus as a child demonstrates how a person can "feel" that it is true and sees plenty of supportive evidence from stories, songs, the Santa Tracker, the missing milk and cookies and most importantly the presents. It is when the child gets older and actually begins to think about it that things don't make as much sense, such as the speed Santa would have to travel to make an overnight delivery to the entire world, or how does a fat man fit down a small chimney or what if your house doesn't have a chimney. Likewise with Christianity, there are plenty of things that appear to support the religion until you are hit with the right questions to ask and begin to see that no one has an adequate answer. Even if Gods, Goddesses or the afterlife does exist, we simply have no good reasons to suspect that existence as of yet.

[@thephilosophicalagnostic2177]

The best way to go into a debate or listening to a podcast or watching a video is that you will learn something you never knew before.

[@SpiceMuffins]

omg Alex is my fking hero. I hope he tours the midwest USA sometime

[@2fast2block]

You're a dolt too to make him your hero. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@GoAway_0]

Spoiler Alert He Won't

[@2fast2block]

I know. He's a fake. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@jamesbrixey8102]

I am a Christian. You are one of my favourite atheists.

[@badreddinedjouamaa5555]

same I'm a Muslim and i actually met him once

[@StoutShako]

I'd also recommend Genetically Modified Skeptic!

[@Gamefan86]

Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.

[@senkuishigami2485]

@@badreddinedjouamaa5555 when? Oxford?

[@badreddinedjouamaa5555]

@@senkuishigami2485 Nope , in Houstan it was a year ago

[@tma6663]

Wow! When will you be in New Orleans? Interested in going.

[@zachdavenport8509]

I think something that's important to consider when discussing reasonable disbelief is what sort of evidence it woukd take to convince you. You said the kalam seems more plausible to you now than before, but it isn't plausible enough to convince you. What is the metric here for plausibility? How plausible must it be before you are convinced? When engaging arguments these are questions that need specific answers.

[@2fast2block]

He just pretends to be looking. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@gersonmatavele80]

"Why are you bothering engaging in a dialogue if you are not seriously considering adopting your opponents' stance" It could be to convince your opponent to adopt your view .Not necessarily a waste of time.

[@tommenr3928]

That only works if your opponent goes into the discussion considering adopting your view, so you should do them the courtesy as well ;)

[@gersonmatavele80]

@@tommenr3928 But not necessarily. That is what I meant. I could go into a debate with the hope that since my arguments are sound I would convince my opponent and the spectators without considering conversion to Christianity. So as I said it is not necessarily a waste of time, some people could actually get convinced and change their opinions even though I never considered changing my view.

[@MrCmon113]

@@tommenr3928 I can't just decide to un-know what's obvious to me. You can try to be open minded, but it would be pure self deception if I belueved that I seriously considered being persuaded in every situation talking to someone. Recently I graded homework where students calculated the distribution of a maximum of random variables as the maximum of the distributions... I can't deny when sth is obviously wrong to me. But it has utility to act as if sth is not obviously wrong to you I guess.

[@2fast2block]

No, Cosmic likes to be a fake. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@lunalongbottom6710]

I once debated with a friend about the vegetarian and vegan lifestyle and I was super pissed and mad that he agreed with me on mostly everything I said and well agreed that the vegetarian and especially the vegan lifestyle is a healthier option for the planet, yourself and morally a better solution. But he still wouldn’t consider trying it. I mean to be fair he proposed he wouldn’t eat that much meat, but in my experience that’s just a shallow promise and we discussed for so long and this is a really emotional topic for me so it was really frustrating and disappointing to hear just that. Afterwards I felt really bad because I thought I was overreacting (i didn’t say anything hurtful but he knew i was pissed and it’s his life decision and not mine). He felt like i was trying to push him to the vegetarian lifestyle when in reality i just couldn’t understand why we debated in the first place when he is still ignorant after agreeing with everything. I still think I should have reacted in a better way and explained my feelings and thoughts but I didn’t understood them at this point. I just thought I was too emotional and a jerk. Your words helped me understand myself better and I’m really thankful for that. It should be normal to be open to the opposite side and not ignorant in the first place. I too will try to also keep myself up to this standard.

[@bdnnijs192]

@@whatever9554 Don't feel too bad about your imperfections. Even vegans are (qoute): *not perfect*

[@lunalongbottom6710]

@@whatever9554 Yeah I get that but then u don’t need to debate whether or not a vegetarian lifestyle would be better. If u don’t wanna change ur ways that’s ur decision. I’m not morally perfect. I too participate in the suffering around the world (fast fashion, buying nestle products, eating cheese) but then I don’t get in a debate and after agreeing on everything I stay ignorant and change nothing. That’s the thing that annoys me.

[@dr.floridamanphd]

A vegetarian diet would certainly be healthier if one has enough knowledge on nutrition to be able to create a diet that is healthy for them. Sadly, most people don’t know the first thing about nutrition.

[@tylertyler6418]

@@lunalongbottom6710 the problem is you can’t force people to care about things, no matter the facts. Maybe your lifestyle choice makes sense but no matter how hard you try, people have to make their own conclusions and decisions. And that’s ok!

[@lunalongbottom6710]

@@tylertyler6418 Yeah I definitely accept and tolerate it. That’s not what angered me. It just angered me that I wasted that much time and energy with explaining and arguing and the outcome was nothing. I felt kinda disrespected because in the beginning I told them that it’s a sensitive topic to me and that I am only spending energy in it if he is open minded (I’m not too sure tho how well I communicated the open mindedness. But i know i made it really clear that I’m sensitive towards this topic and doesn’t want a discussion that doesn’t lead to anything). So I was upset not bc of the fact that they eat meat. I’m upset bc I wasted time and energy in a sensitive discussion and was left feeling like the problems of that discussion (in this case animal suffering) do not matter bc he doesn’t even seriously try to at least either educate himself further, trying more vegetarian products or anything else really. Everything just stayed the same and that was disappointing

[@hirayeth]

Hi Alex, could you make a video on "My Big TOE" - Thomas Campbell, his theory of everything. It would be very meaningful to test his theory and philosophy, and to debate if it is based on science as Thomas is a physicist. Cheers! Repeating this so you might see it, sorry about that!

[@paulbradley9912]

Welcome back!

[@2fast2block]

Yep, he loves being the fake he is. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k

[@max8m1]

I fall into your camp as well, Alex. I've been trying to convert to Christianity for some time, but I don't want to do so dishonestly. So I go to church, engage with Christians, watch videos of religious creators, etc in the hopes that someone will convince me. Because I genuinely feel like having a benevolent higher power to believe in would be a positive thing in my life. But so far it has sadly been easier for me to accept certain animistic beliefs about nature spirits and have transcendental experiences while meditating in the wilderness, than be convinced of a theistic religion. It's not that I'm hostile to it, don't want to believe or dislike believers, it just doesn't seem reasonable to me

[@gage2787]

I relate somewhat. I went to college an atheist and started going to a men's group so I could give Christianity a fair shot (and hopefully find it false). I didn't find anything they said particularly convincing, until my best friend converted. We argued about it for a while, and be showed me this list of prophecies in the Old Testament. That's what convinced me. These are the most straightforward and impressive proofs in my opinion. Two of the best examples, for brevity- Isaiah 52:13-53:12 describes the servant of God who will one day die for the sins of humanity, and live after this. Daniel 9:25-27 says the Messiah would come 483 years after a decree to rebuild Jerusalem- ~33 AD or so (and that he would die afterwards). A week before his death (~33AD), he rode into Jerusalem on a donkey, publicly announcing himself as Messiah for the first time (by purposely fulfilling what was said of the Messiah in Zechariah 9:9). So, it was written hundreds of years in advance that someone would come when Jesus did, and would do what he is known for. If you're figuring out if you believe or not, that's good to consider. Peace

[@max8m1]

@@gage2787 Thanks for the suggestion, i'll look into those prophecies for sure!

[@2fast2block]

If you're like Cosmic, you don't care about truth. So Cosmic makes it clear there is nothing that speaks to existence of a God in the universe. WTF, he is plain stooo-pid. How did Cosmic get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. So if Cosmic wants to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation and life really happened by natural means. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc The odds are NOT there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWLCfHiMlqisl6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4icmJStr79_qc0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpXEooarqdlol9k