Science Has Buried God

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Many atheists suggest that Christianity is incompatible with modern science. Whilst I do not think this is strictly true, I think that many specific Christian claims can be undermined by the scientific enterprise, but Dr. Andy Bannister of the Solas Centre for Public Christianity thinks that, in principle, science cannot undermine Christianity.
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[@Gehr96]

Every time somebody claims that science undermines religion I put an extra science on the grill just for them. No, wait...

[@xavierlebeuf3061]

underrated comment

[@Sebastian-nb4cu]

I'm ded u killed me, are u happy now?

[@duderyandude9515]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrGodofcar]

Don't get it

[@lj.853]

@@MrGodofcar watch his "I eat dogs" video

[@isispzl8757]

Alex has finally entered the stage of growing a beard to become a true philosopher

[@guilhermedavitoria4346]

Beard phase! Beard phase!

[@andrewshaw1571]

@Dave The Brahman And sleep on the floor.

[@lars3603]

@@andrewshaw1571 Imagine having a floor, this post was created by the living in a barrel gang.

[@Canalcoholic]

Nah, that’s just bum fluff.

[@andrewshaw1571]

@@lars3603 fuck off Diogenes

[@CosmicSkeptic]

You'll be able to see my facial hair in better quality than 360p when KZbin finishes processing this video. Sorry for the delay.

[@shabolealquesimi9420]

Okis

[@umsuzi]

Looks great 👍

[@aworldtowin80]

Are you going to grow it out?

[@GarciaLCc]

Ngl it complements your face :)

[@20july1944]

Do you have a video on your cosmogony? What IS your cosmogony?

[@justthetruth870]

I love Ricky Gervais description about Religion and Science. "If we lost all knowledge of both Religion and Science over night, in a thousand years Religion would be back but it would be completely different and Science would also be back but it would be exactly the same". That is "Truth".

[@justthetruth870]

@Raine Riny 7 I believe what is being referenced here are the "Physical Constants", Gravity, speed of light, chemistry etc. The changes you may observe will undoubtedly be caused by different/better methods of measurement plus better improved methods of analysis. The absolute majority of the real world that is measured and described by science will be the same. What it boils down to is method, Better method equals better results. Radioactive decay and chemical reactions will always be the same. As we know science deals with Theories not facts and Theories evolve over time as we learn. As for believing in and connecting with something greater. That's purely subjective, I connect with and view the Natural world as something greater rather than the outdated and superseded, (In my view) supernatural side of the discussion. Besides, we are only talking about 1000 years here. Anyway thanks for your comment.

[@justthetruth870]

@Raine Riny 7 That's very interesting, I had not seen that before but it stands to reason as we know that the speed of light changes its speed dependant on the medium that it is travelling in. It travels slower in water than it does in air. Travelling through the different mediums in the vacuum of space is no different. This makes no difference to the physical constant that is defined by science. The speed of light will be 299,792.458 kilometers per second for milenia to come.

[@justthetruth870]

@Raine Riny 7 You need light to measure its speed and that light has to come from a source. The light from every star in our galaxy travels through differing parts of space then it will be travelling through various different mediums. It stands to reason that the scientists making these various measurements didn't measure the same photons of light. Look, I'm not a physicist and I DON'T write the definitions of these constants, they are termed as constants and taught accordingly but the Speed of light currently is measured to the nearest metre per second and that constant will stay that way for a couple of weeks yet no matter what variations may be present.

[@justthetruth870]

@Raine Riny 7 I believe I have done my due diligence on this subject and it seems Mr. Sheldrake has very little credibility. Looking over all of the speed of light measurement experiments over the the centuries he has clearly cherry picked the Michelson-Morley period (1926-1949) where there was a very significant margin for error. They came up with a value of 299,796km/sec +/-4 with a margin for error of +12ppm. In 1950 Essen & Gordon-Smith got closer to the exact value when they produced a value of 299,792.5 +/-3 with a margin of error of +0.14ppm. In 1958 K.D. Froome confirmed the previous measurement with an identical value then in 1972 Evernson & others reduced the margin for error to -0.006ppm with their value of 299,792.4562+/-0.0011. Finally in 1983 the exact value was confirmed as 299,792.458km/sec. As I said previously, it's all about the method of measurment. It's called a constant for a reason. Choosing one set of figures and not putting them into context is very misleading and Sheldrake was being nothing but dishonest in his claims. Cherry picking for one's own benefit is too common and it demeans everyone, scientists and we the public. You even bought into his bullshit. As for the speed of light over the life of the universe, the jury is out. There are 2 camps, one thinks the speed of light has slowed and the other camp thinks it hasn't. This as with many other great mysteries will undoubtedly be solved in the future. Thanks for the discussion.

[@justthetruth870]

@Raine Riny 7 Are you serious. The man cherry picked a data set back in the time when scientists were still trying to put an exact value on c. and didn't even put it into context. We didn't know the precise value of c. back then. We were still learning. The previous experiment done by Rosa and Dorsey in 1907 gave c. a value of 299,710 +/-30 with a whopping margin for error of -280ppm and prior to that in 1862 Leon Foucault calculated c. to be 298,000+/-500 with a staggering margin of error of -0.60% not in parts per million. Don't you see how we have crept up on the precise value for c. over time. The constants have not changed and they certainly haven't changed just because he says they have. You're right, I don't have the credibility to judge him nor do I have the higher education but I am more than capable enough to go back into the scientific literature and and see for myself what he has done. I suggest you do the same. People have agendas and for good examples of this you only need to look at the climate change debacle. Vested interests trying to stifle debate and sway public opinion. This man has no credibility in the mainstream scientific community with his weird and wacky ideas. I have given you the relevant information and in the spirit of fair play I suggest you look it up and confirm it for yourself. Once again to summarize. 1. We haven't always known the precise value of c. 2. The value of c. has taken over 300 years to get to the exact value of c. starting with Romer and Huygens back in 1675 and their figure was 220,000km/sec which is an astronomical -27% out. (why didn't your hero choose that one ?) 3. Methods of measurement have improved over the centuries. 4. This is how we learn. I understand that you don't like this information and choose to believe someone like Sheldrake who is a very good communicator but I urge you to take the time and check for yourself. See that people like him aren't giving you all the facts. Anyway, make of this what you choose, I have nothing further to say on the matter. Stay well and thanks for the discussion.

[@nikdoesstuff9338]

"But why be interested in science wh-" Because it makes me happy goddammit

[@equation2764]

😂😂😂 implausible argument, sorry. Only illogical arguments accepted here. Approach atheism on the next counter to spit your logix

[@dinamosflams]

and it makes me feel clever aswell! specially when I use those numbers and create hypotesis. It's fun!

[@paradigmbuster]

Issac Newton never left His faith because He knew the gravity of doing so.

[@AMikeStein]

Lol! I see what you did there. :)

[@xminteee300]

If you’re trying to imply that Newton was secretly an atheist you couldn’t be more wrong. Newton was heavily into alchemy and esoteric stuff, he wrote books about it. He was a devout Christian and there is absolutely no evidence to the contrary.

[@RizzRoss9001]

@@xminteee300 it's just a joke sir

[@thorpenator9148]

People were killed for going against common beliefs.

[@quantumskittles]

Beautiful..

[@TarquinMelnyk]

The idea that Christianity holds a trademark on “truth” is pretty feeble. They borrowed a concept and then tried to commodify it. If it belonged exclusively to them - everyone else would be hopeless at discovering anything.

[@augustus672]

Every religion claims it's truthfulness, some are more oppressive and poisonous to development of mind. Why exactly did you choose to bash Christianity?

[@equation2764]

@@augustus672 because that's what the VIDEO IS ALL ABOUT !!!!!

[@sneezystudios5856]

Christianity is the only religion bold enough to claim that God became human and died for our sins. There is no other religion that makes such claims. No concept was borrowed. Christianity is unique in that matter.

[@lukeioa4604]

@@sneezystudios5856 facts

[@nimishmagar5551]

@@sneezystudios5856 know you might be wrong even eastern religion hindus believe same that god takes form of human and enter material world and hinduism is even older than Christianity.

[@lulubeukes2296]

Storytime: I watched a video of Alex's on how to read more books. I liked his style of talking and formatting. I subscribed. I am an Athiests now.

[@albsol3478]

Well done

[@CraftyVegan]

The “education is fun” to “atheist” pipeline ⚛️

[@jounisuninen]

When listening to Alexis I get more and more confirmed that atheists don't really know what they are talking about. Max Planck: "There can never be any real opposition between science and religion; for the one is the complement of the other. Every serious and reflective person realizes, I think, that the religious element in his nature must be recognised and cultivated if all the powers of the human soul are to act together in perfect harmony. And indeed it is not an accident that the greatest thinkers of all ages were also deeply religious souls." The most remarkable scientists behind the birth of modern science such as Galileo Galilei, Robert Boyle, Michael Faraday, James Maxwell, Isaac Newton, Blaise Pascal and Louis Pasteur all believed in the genuine planning which can be observed in nature. Of Nobel Prize winners in science [data 1900-2000] 60% believe in God and most of that 60% are scientists. So it's rather illogical to set science and intelligent design against each other. It's a clearly artificial and non-functioning approach. Johannes Kepler breaks into enthusiasm at being the first to recognise the beauty of God's works. Thus the new way of thinking [science] has nothing to do with any turn away from religion. [Wilber, Quantum Questions, p.41]

[@dylanmeleady4712]

My man's beard grew faster than the universe expands

[@duderyandude9515]

Faster than the speed of light? Alex is truly the wizard his beard is trying to become.

[@waynepooley6950]

What units we usin?

[@mikeelliott886]

What beard? 😂

[@eila2635]

W o a h That snail is F A S T

[@Lamster66]

Guess his Oxford grant has run out so couldn't afford razor blades. And being a vegan couldn't even go for the cheaper option of putting milk on his chin and waiting for the cat to lick off his bum fluff!

[@PalnPWN]

YES! THE COMMENT SECTION IS ALL ABOUT THE BEARD! My prayers have been answered... wait...

[@mr.birdie1406]

Under rated 😂👌

[@edwardchilikawei]

It's been determined

[@theblazinsquid5478]

😂😂😂 as a Christian I approved this comment

[@holdencommodorehsv]

@@theblazinsquid5478 "as a Christian" lol please no .

[@theblazinsquid5478]

@@holdencommodorehsv you’re right as The Blazin’ Squid i approve 🤣🤣🤣

[@myyou2b]

Thank you for your advocacy. We need it desperately today.

[@bayekofsiwa5847]

Ayy Alex finally starts growing a beard. Glad I was part of this milestone!

[@lukemcdermott1901]

“The scientific method doesn’t care why you’re using it” - brilliant

[@sunset2.00]

Agree

[@everythingisvanityneverthe1834]

But Christians were the first that cared to use the scientific method. Nobody else had any reason to use it. The scientific method didn't just randomly pop into somebody's head.

[@juliamay8580]

@@everythingisvanityneverthe1834 Your first premise might be true (?). You second premise isn't true. Your third premise it's odd and vague.

[@everythingisvanityneverthe1834]

@@juliamay8580 I am sincerely interested to know why you think on a naturalistic worldview governed by survival of the fittest as the foundational principle anybody would conceive of the scientific method. Even Christianity had to evolve to the point where its foundational principles of cooperating with your enemy could flourish before the scientific method was established. Edited : only for the sake of typos

[@everythingisvanityneverthe1834]

@@juliamay8580 my third premise is not a premise 🙂. It is a messed up conclusion following from the first two. Please ignore it if you are interest in a serious discussion. Otherwise I will defend it to the death 😂

[@songbird7450]

"The world will come to an end no earlier than 2060" Five years ago I would have laughed about that, but judging by today's political atmosphere...

[@Hacman-rk3cr]

Only in America, the rest will live on !!

[@toyosioyejobi309]

Absolutely. We are nearing the peak of human civilization and the current political sphere explains this. I won't be suprised if everything ends this century

[@MrPeterschmit]

"The inventor who invented the car used to walk around everywhere " made me laugh hard Alex !

[@usualsuspect5173]

Or used horse back or carriages

[@twistamoneus]

Alex: a well put together, thoroughly thought out rebuttal to absurd claims Comments: Beard

[@HalTuberman]

"I myself wouldn't make such a grand statement that 'Science has Buried God'" Title of the video:

[@cade8986]

Lol

[@micah329]

Not really grand. God doesn't take much to bury.

[@dionysis_]

@@micah329 “God is dead” - Nietzsche, 1883 “Nietzsche is dead” - God, 1900 😛

[@victorliafook]

Congrats, you just discovered the click bait.

[@stueyapstuey4235]

@@micah329 Y'can't bury a non-existent (non) thing... er... or, something...

[@DISCO-munication]

Alex with beard!! I'm officially dead. 2021 has never looked better~

[@michaelstevens3618]

You need Jesus.

[@DISCO-munication]

@@michaelstevens3618 Ummm no, I don't need scumbags. He was a cynical and hypocritical character who is forever banished from my life.

[@williampower6167]

Been watching since the start gives a heart will ya and nice to see you’re still at it.

[@twistedbunny]

Been a while, i like the progress Alex's room gets as time goes by

[@gogo-su6hr]

Chad Alex with the beard is like Eren in Season 4.

[@JohnnyPlsCumMe]

You mean in attack on Titan, bro

[@JohnnyPlsCumMe]

My siblings are the fans of the fucking series and this is such a big thing in my FB news feed but I really fucking hate that many toxic fans are attacking MAPPA studio

[@bigzed7908]

@@JohnnyPlsCumMe they hate it because it's something new. I taught it was cool asf. About them hating it because it's something new? History repeating itself in front of our eyes. Not a big thing, but still.

[@JohnnyPlsCumMe]

@@bigzed7908 even though, many ppl never knew what is happening behind in the Anime industry, many animators are been underpaid, Im not that engaged in watching anime but I listen to their op. Yep those idiots who are go batshit on the animations are just watching it in illegal websites

[@afrid7440]

Lmao true

[@SawtoothWaves]

he's so proud of that segue, i love it

[@JudgeDredd010]

It was pretty smooth 😂

[@GardenNomme]

I've found them, the only person on the planet that knows the difference between "segue" and "segway"

[@tragic6162]

Yo wassup sawtooth

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

I'll have to look up that term.

[@Emiliapocalypse]

@@GardenNomme fear not, they’re definitely not the only one who knows the difference

[@Wifgargfhaurh]

Current science cannot bury religion, and vice versa. I will begin by defining what i will refer to as an "information barrier". An information barrier is a metaphorical or physical barrier that prevents us from coming to any solid conclusions. One such information barrier is history. We have a knowledge of history, but that knowledge is ultimately limited. On the other hand, we have a limited knowledge of religious lore. For example, we have fragments of the Gospel of Judas, but not the entire thing. Our limited knowledge of science, history, and religious lore prevents us from coming to provable conclusions. So, next time you hear an atheist say "Science disproves God", you know they are stupid due to the Dunning-Kreuger effect. The inverse is true for religious people; we cannot prove the existence of our gods, but some of us claim we can. All of this stems from a problem of human ignorance. Eventually, if these information barriers are broken, we may be able to disprove or prove God. But until then, stop acting like you know everything.

[@molecularsamm7899]

Love your work and your mind. Really hope I randomly bump into you in an Oxford pub someday to have a long chat over a drink

[@georgejessup7938]

Dr Banistan's arguments are also just a bit insulting to every non Christian scientist as well

[@jen204]

I believe it's worse than that... he is essentially saying that everyone who does science is, in fact, an unwitting Christian.

[@everythingisvanityneverthe1834]

Since when has serious philosophers and scientists ever cared about what is insulting? Atheism would not have lead to a system of searching for abstract law and order in the universe - period. The best it could come up with is applied science like engineering advancing at a slow pace of trial and error while competing with your enemies for survival of the fittest. If atheism was the dominant way of thought we'd still be trapped in the bronze age. Just deal with it? Edited for typos.

[@georgejessup7938]

Just deal with it? Your arrogance is astounding. From what is basically a thought experiment you have completely dismissed the idea that evolution can produce emotion and wonder. Humans aren't good at dealing with big numbers, that's a general fact. I've heard constant arguments about evolution which reduce humans down to basic machines just because there is no god. When in reality you are talking about a much more complex process that took billions of years. You're twisting the facts to suit your arguement. Fact: humans are inquisitive beings that search for meaning and produce abstract concepts. Random made up fact: this is impossible without a divine creator. Ergo rubbish conclusion

[@xlubu411x]

@@jen204 I would recommend Tom Holland's book "Dominion". The claim is more than just that scientists are unwitting Christians, the claim is that everyone who believes in Secularism is an unwitting Christian.

[@lenroddis5933]

@@everythingisvanityneverthe1834 "Atheism would not have lead (sic) to a system of searching for abstract law and order in the universe - period" on what basis do you make that assertion?

[@lars3603]

"For example: is my facial hair more important than someone starving?" Well I guess that's the answer, Alex decided not to shave for charity, obviously, duh.

[@CosmicSkeptic]

Hahahaha

[@ninadkalmegh]

​@@CosmicSkeptic I have knowledge over god

[@tomp8632]

Would be dope to see you have a convo with God is grey. The rebuttals are dope, but i really like watching you sitting down and having more firnedly chats with reasonable peeps with differing perspectives (the kalam convo for instance).

[@m4641]

Dang it. Everything sounds better when one properly uses the word "whilst". Truly like this channel and content even though I happen to disagree on many topics.

[@GrassesOn97]

Intellectuals: hmm, yes, a well-cited and reasoned argument against the idea that one needs to be a Christian to use Science The comment section: he-he-he-he, funny science man with a beard

[@ADeeSHUPA]

@@vvv4889 uP

[@tballs6077]

Hahahahaha lab coats don't know anything. Legends in their own mind's. Create life from nothing and you will be closest to God in all power and wisdom. But you can't.. hahahha

[@wayfa13]

@@tballs6077 ?

[@fnfmdjfj9569]

@@wayfa13 pretty self explanatory

[@falsexgrindx378]

You got it backwards.

[@HassanRadwan133]

As always, beautifully articulated.

[@fabiology6439]

Brother may I ask why you left Islam? I'm a Shia Muslim but I like to get the perspectives of different people on why they do such things.

[@areebhasan4510]

@@fabiology6439 He has a well-made video that shows why he left. Check out his channel.

[@fabiology6439]

@@areebhasan4510 To be honest don't blame him for leaving "Islam" but I just wish he looked deeper into it and had discovered the path of Ahlulbayt a.s. (household/progeny of prophet Mohammed s.a.w.s.), they are full of knowledge, wisdom and divinity, as Mohammed s.a.w.s. said "I'm the the city of knowledge and Ali is it's gateway." Ali a.s. is the first out of the 14 members of the Ahlulbayt a.s. and the first succesor of Mohammed s.a.w.s. (from the 12 total) which only a minority of Muslims follow (10-15%). To be frank with you the main reason why he left was probably because of the hadith books Sunni (majority) Muslims have, they are the definition of psychotic and show the Quran in a dark manner when it's full of light. Anyways if you have any question feel free to ask, and may God s.w.t. show his mercy upon him, you, me and all his lost/struggling/questioning creations.

[@fabiology6439]

@bil pro Don't think you understand that some words have more than one definition, as divinity does. Also when did I use Allah s.w.t.'s attributes for someone else?

[@itsanewday5219]

@bil pro if i have to choose any god going out of atheism thats surely not allah.Your allah is not morally good and you also know that.

[@spocksvulcanbrain]

Alex, you gave the example of Darwin adding "by the Creator" in his 2nd edition to appease the Christians. That is EXACTLY what happened to our US Declaration of Independence when it says "...endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights." This passage was added to appease the Christians who wouldn't ratify it unless it had God in it. Being that the founders wanted this to be a secular nation and no mention of God, this was the compromise they came up with. Basically, they were forced to include it even though they didn't believe it was the right thing.

[@patricksharp1063]

As a retired Science Lecturer and teacher, it is science that studies Nature, but to Spinoza, God and Nature are one. "Deus Sim Narura" and it is my understanding of organic chemistry that confirms it

[@binilgn5941]

Title: “Science has buried God” Alex: “I myself wouldn’t make such a grand statement that science has buried God”

[@jeannedarc7533]

Religion = Pile of Gordon Ramsay's shit lmao

[@VictorGuterres-kl9im]

@@jeannedarc7533 Edgy

[@abhayraj4189]

@@jeannedarc7533 Actually Religions are not bs, Certain ideas in Religion are backward, which shouldnt be supported, But as long as the religious people correct these ideas over time as we change, It would have been great The thought of A world with A Supreme power that takes care of us(whether true or not), Is comforting for some and They should be free to choose that, There isnt anything wrong with being religious if you want to but shouldnt be forced to believe either if you dont want to

[@mysty1353]

@@abhayraj4189 The problem is religious people believe that their ideas must be correct since they came from God.

[@Annibals]

Says an atheist to a Christian

[@goddamnfaith6607]

primary reasons to watch Alex: 1- accent 2-facial hair 3-content

[@universecreator988]

Those are secondary. The primary reason is: 1- Articulate and coherent 2- Debunks religious claims with 1-

[@angelamaryquitecontrary4609]

It's a perfectly normal, educated English accent! He sounds a little like my husband. Well, not the content, obvs.

[@GeetardHD]

Hahaha I did not see that transition to ad coming, that was great.

[@TheOpenCouchPodcast]

The only time Alex ever laughs or chuckles is on them commercial breaks 😂

[@TunaTheMiner]

I'm your age and have been watching you for many years. I like how you've progressively become more sophisticated and nuanced.

[@agathajohannbuenorosa175]

Man, that appears to be like a classical CosmicSkeptic video, reminds me of the old days

[@jamesgale7429]

Did this dude get his doctorate out of a cereal packet? Alex goes far too easy on him

[@samazing8658]

I laughed really hard that "F**k you" was the churches response. 🤣

[@20july1944]

What church replied that way? I'd like to see that for myself.

[@rvosta2450]

@@20july1944 Um... It was a joke.

[@20july1944]

@@rvosta2450 On a different thread with 173 posts, you claimed that energy bends space-time just like matter does. For convenience I'll respond here. I deny that -- what is your example of energy bending space time?

[@rvosta2450]

@@20july1944 Huh? On what post was this?

[@rvosta2450]

@@20july1944 although, light bends around the Sun, as we can see stars light from behind it, which is caused by the mass + energy of the sun warping light.

[@hendoskelly4933]

He always makes the best analogies

[@JohnnyPlsCumMe]

Ppl then: That drawer tho Ppl now: That beard tho

[@joshuachong6620]

Why does this channel exist

[@kazzajaxon7566]

Well I never would have thought that a channel like this existed, I'm certainly intrigued.

[@tolkiendil4806]

He's attractive tho

[@Summer-uq1vr]

But the beard tho.. Also relate to your account name on a spiritual level lmao

[@JohnnyPlsCumMe]

@@joshuachong6620 Because I exist... Diba?

[@badgerlife9541]

Your videos are getting better and better 👏👏👏

[@marianomazzieri6560]

8:20 I feel a little bit ashamed that I came to know that paragraph by listening to Nightwish

[@joshiano6983]

You have buried my animal products😂

[@joshuasteib7792]

Cosmic Skeptic is also a very good musician - you are,too! Great Piano skills! How about a duet?

[@ArnoldTohtFan]

Animals don't have metacognition as we humans do, so we must resist the temptation to anthropomorphise them so much. Nobody wants animals to suffer, but if they can be farmed on a small, sustainable scale and in a natural environment without enduring any gratuitous suffering, I don't see a problem with it. There are methods of slaughter which are more like euthanasia than conventional slaughter, most of them devised by Temple Grandin. The animals are exposed to a gas that sends them to sleep, they are rendered insensible to pain, and are killed in their sleep. It's as close as we're ever going to get to killing without a breach of ethics. Veganism is also highly impractical. It has left many people nutrition deficient and they have become very ill, and for a fussy eater like me, veganism simply isn't an option. Autistic people will never tolerate being forced to consume foods they detest. In conclusion, I believe a radical reduction in the human population would be a sufficient measure to make farming and consumption of animal products morally tolerable. Obviously this reduction should exclusively target the bloated, superfluous populations of the third world.

[@archingsunsettlingsaturn81]

@@ArnoldTohtFan no one said that anyone had to eat foods that the detest. You don’t bananas? Strawberry’s? Ice Cream? No fruits you like? Don’t like cereal? Pasta? Quinoa?

[@ArnoldTohtFan]

@@archingsunsettlingsaturn81 You need to work on your writing skills, buddy. If we lived under the tyranny of veganism, we would indeed be forced to consume foods that we do not like and are not evolutionarily adapted to consume.

[@vaurien3694]

@@ArnoldTohtFan If an animal is slaughtered against its will without a necessity, it's immoral. "It's as close as we're ever going to get to killing without a breach of ethics." As close as. Still not there. Still immoral. What do you think about killing dogs, cats or humans this way? Is it acceptable? "It has left many people nutrition deficient and they have become very ill" Educate yourself beforehand and make sure to get some bloodwork done once a year, and you'll be fine. "Autistic people will never tolerate being forced to consume foods they detest." So who "forced" you to eat food you detest? "In conclusion, I believe a radical reduction in the human population would be a sufficient measure to make farming and consumption of animal products morally tolerable. Obviously this reduction should exclusively target the bloated, superfluous populations of the third world." Now I'm thinking you're a troll and I'm not even commenting on this last part. Wtf.

[@user-yn5sk5ru5g]

Why do i value truth as an atheist? When you cross the road, do you care about the truth if there is or isnt a truck coming? The truth matters

[@secretjanus]

If you care about truth, I’m currently dancing in your closet

[@rodolfocamilo4325]

The house analogy was mental! Good one

[@linneahansen8896]

Alex- makes great content with nuanced, informative arguments The entire comments section- ooo beard

[@alastorlapid2365]

Because, ooo beard

[@CraftyVegan]

@@alastorlapid2365 beard ^_^

[@Bradslifestyle]

Always a pleasure listening to you. Wonderful video as usual.

[@limitlessspaceexploration7587]

Every time he says “science” his beard grows

[@Victor-kt6qn]

It is known.

[@danielwaever]

As well as any time he says any other word

[@digdug3758]

He says science like 6x a minute

[@flying_spaghettimonster]

The words he says are no relation to the growth of his beard. I should know, I created his beard.

[@patricksarama4963]

It is the way

[@definitivamenteno-malo7919]

The problem with sugarcoating that religion and science don't contradict, is that... it isn't the case, since most religions do have statements about how reality works, and DO contradict reality itself. "Science doesn't contradict religion" but it does contradict that lighting volts aren't from Zeus, Ba'al nor Yahweh. "Science doesn't contradict religion", but it does contradict all creationist myths. "Science doesn't contradict religion" but it does contradict all religious cosmology.

[@protoman2260]

Galileo Galilei’s claims weren’t shot down by the church because “science bad God good”. Rather his claims were shot down for the same reason that we would currently shoot down modem day scientist’s claims. He couldn’t *prove* his scientific claims. Amazing that modern students of science would have in his day accepted Galileo’s view of the world in relation to the sun without proof and say “no totally bruh I feel ya”.

[@nietzschescodes]

"now this may sound implausible at first....and...well ya because it is" that was genius! funny and ultra-intelligent!

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

Not finished yet but excellent (as always) so far, and btw the audio quality is excellent and the facial hair looks good. Ok, back to the video now....

[@michaeldillon3113]

I would love to see Alex critique Vedanta , particularly as taught at the moment by someone like Swami Sarvapriyananda of the Vedanta Society ( plenty of his videos on KZbin ) . There is a general view in Vedanta that religion , like science , can be understood at various levels . You wouldn't teach particle physics to a child on their first day at school . Most of the people Alex seems to critique are at about the GCSE level of religious understanding . These Vedantins have a post PhD understanding of religion . So I personally would love be to see Alex have a discussion with Swami Sarvapriyananda in particular .

[@repentantrevenant9776]

I recommend that Alex checks out “History for Atheists” on the topic of the Galileo affair. He still seems to be feeding energy to a particular narrative that could use some nuance.

[@donaldanderson6578]

One more for the algorithm. Also, why nobody has commented on Alex's beard yet??

[@MrGodofcar]

You're blind

[@Emiliapocalypse]

It’s the only thing people will talk about

[@banishedbr]

what beard ? too short

[@MrGodofcar]

@@banishedbr A short beard is still a beard.

[@stambo1983]

@@MrGodofcar I would say it's more stubble

[@jeffin8029]

ALEX HAS OFFICIALLY BECOME A TRUE PHILOSOPHER

[@patricksarama4963]

*Achievement unlocked: philosopher beard*

[@christopherconkright1317]

I don't believe in god. I believe in science means. If science proved god I would believe but currently there is no proof for god so I don't believe.

[@SemiPerfectDark]

It's sad when you see a fully grown adult using unsound logic to pretend to prove the existence of mythological stories

[@attaxiaffxi7033]

Shave the beard off it's turning me gay

[@jamesmiller4184]

HEY!

[@PeruvianTreeProductions]

Welcome to the dark side. We have cookies.

[@attaxiaffxi7033]

@@PeruvianTreeProductions I think he needs another inch of length on it before I commit fully.

[@leebennett1821]

@@attaxiaffxi7033 another inch of length of what?

[@attaxiaffxi7033]

@@leebennett1821 👀

[@godkingathleticsllc4218]

With every video that you release, I become increasingly more impressed by your calm, cool, clear, and, precise intellect. Continue to inspire!

[@carsonianthegreat4672]

Belief that the son is subordinate to the father is not heretical and is part of trinitarianism. Newton was an Arian, which means he denied that the Son and the Father were homousias, or of the same substance (substance here not referring to physical materiality but rather the form and essence). Arianism professes that the Father and the Son are of different substances and denies the co-externality of the Son with the Father.

[@lifeisoverated81]

The video was great, but the transition was a work of art. :)

[@johnrobinson2228]

DAMN SON the beard really suits you!

[@gottabnic]

That is not a beard... that’s a small bit of stubble

[@wannabewitch369]

You inspired me to finally come out to my self as an atheist, and pushed me into researching and correct way of defending my statements and so much more... I am forever grateful ❤️

[@20july1944]

Witch: my favorite evidence we have a Creator God is cosmogony, thermodynamics and cosmogony. What is your favorite evidence for atheism?

[@enzoforgets9456]

@@20july1944 science and or not believing in a book made early on in human development as 100% fact, which as a christian even i dont believe everything in the bible

[@20july1944]

@@enzoforgets9456 OK, the question isn't anyone's opinion of the Bible. I'm a Christian and I'm here to defend theism as a step toward Christianity and I only argue from science and logic. So, we may be in accord.

[@enzoforgets9456]

@@20july1944 oh ok, my bad, seems i got a bit mixed up there!

[@ianreynolds8552]

We are limited by science and history ! In fact reality, only being conscious of what we know

[@Rico-Suave_]

Watched all of it thanks

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

Really like the facial hair, Alex. Your content is also 👌

[@mateokenyon3311]

Are you getting ready for a dollar shave club sponsorship?

[@FaiaHalo]

I love your honesty, intellect and all your content in general.

[@justStardust940]

Love the five o clock shadow on you!!!!!!!!

[@Sheeerperfection]

Damn, that was a smooth ad transition.

[@dogbotgod8499]

My man added +2 charisma with that beard

[@SUN-qp5xe]

An 18 minute video has been uploaded less than 5 minutes ago and there are already dislikes? Hear the man out for "god's" sake !

[@leyrua]

Excuse me, you are being very disrespectful of those of us with _pantheons._ It's "for _gods'_ sake". #joking

[@SUN-qp5xe]

@@leyrua lol

[@simonrogers2720]

The scientific method is the most sound method of discovering truths... the supernatural hypothesis will remain a hypothesis until it passes the scientific method.

[@KalebSDay]

That add transition was Linus Tech Tips level smooth, haha.

[@matteoforghieri]

Imagine being a grown ass man and being humiliated by a kid on youtube...it must hurt

[@LXWLESS]

Kid with a slight beard lol

[@universecreator988]

Dude is over 20. He is a prime adult

[@treeoflife7151]

Don't think it would be correct to refer Alex as kid but kids can know somethings better and be more open minded

[@oz7354]

appreciating alex’ graphic designer because these thumbnails have been looking crisppp. also nice beard👍🏾

[@mariaangelova8275]

Excellent video! 🙌👍

[@Cookie-ri9pz]

Thank you Alex for your educated views. You have made it to where I can debate better. I usually don't speak if I don't know the facts. 💚✌️

[@kevinmurray8302]

Also, great video man. I actually wanted to make a similar video, but you've done it better than I ever would have. So props to you too :)

[@JohnDoeSchmoe]

Bah, so tedious. I always kinda hope I'll hear a new argument, but _"scientists in the 15th to 19th century were all religious/Christian, therefore science must be based on religion"_ , please. I just can't anymore.

[@harshildeora1001]

Also, they undermine or forget the contributions done by ancient Indians, Chinese, Arabs, Greeks etc.

[@MartinAlix]

This video was a good debunking of that notion

[@christianglashoff263]

For everyone that needs to hear this please know that it's never too late to find God and reach your God given potential 🙏

[@enricochestri]

As a Christian Catholic believer, I think there should be no conflict between science and faith, and that they should be perfectly compatible. But dr. Bannister's ideas are completely out of this world! As far as Galileo Galilei is concerned, in one of his works he stated: la scienza dice come “vadia il cielo”, la fede dice come si “vadia al cielo”, which means: science tells us how heaven functions, faith tells us how you get to heaven. Note that in Italian cielo means both the skies (astronomy) and heaven (theology). So I think he was a strong believer. Thank you Alex, with that beard you're even more charming! Salutes from Italy, Galileo's homeland!

[@lucioh1575]

The beard suits you well.

[@ar-jv5fc]

damn i can’t believe you were like,, 17 when you first started making these videos. you’ve grown up so much. and nice beard

[@angelamaryquitecontrary4609]

He almost fills the hole in my life left by the loss of Christopher Hitchens. What a polymath, and such eloquence.

[@cbrad_edits]

In the church I used to go to, someone there was friends with or at least had worked with the guy you’re responding to. Small world.

[@OmniphonProductions]

Wow! The guy just jumps right in with the False Dichotomy (Christianity or Atheism...with NO other options) and rolls straight into an Argument from Authority (Great scientists of the past believed it; therefore it must be true.) It's so transparent to anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of Rhetoric. He utterly ignores the fact that Galileo (among others) narrowly avoided execution for heresy...and many others _didn't_ avoid it...as well as the fact that Newton's beliefs about the Bible would be considered downright ridiculous by most Christians (then and now). I do so love it when people cite the beliefs of great historical figures...in very broad terms...utterly unaware that the fine details of those very same scientists' lives utterly defeat their own argument. The danger is that platforms like KZbin don't have an algorithm that automatically plays counter-argument videos, so viewers often only get one side's propaganda. Then the idea that wanting to know the truth is an inherently Christian notion is...well...utterly lacking in philosophical self-awareness. Genesis Chapter 1, Verse 6 _demonstrably_ misidentifies the nature of both the _sky_ (a big, hard dome) and _outer space_ (a great expanse of water). Only _six verses in,_ the Bible is demonstrably NOT true. Moreover, his claims is willfully ignorant of the fact that a great many scientific discoveries...and the development of Scientific Method itself...are owed specifically to Muslim scientists (pre-13th Century). That's why the names of most stars are, in fact, Arabic, why the number system we use to this day (especially ZERO) is, in fact, Arabic, and why words like algebra and algorithm are...you guessed it...Arabic. I'm not saying Islam promoted the development of Science any more than Christianity did. In fact, both have an extensive and bloody history of suppressing it. I'm simply pointing out that attributing scientific exploration to ANY religious ideology is demonstrably false. As for why telling the truth is a good thing, he's presenting another Argument from Authority by assuming that there is no morality without God (specifically the Christian God...and more specifically the God of HIS specific BRAND of Christianity). On top of the Argument from Authority, the reason he believes God is the author of all morality is because it says so in the Bible, which is _either_ yet another Argument from Authority _or_ Begging the Question (How do you know the Bible is true OTHER THAN the Bible's own claim of such?). Either way, all of his arguments are examples of (literally) textbook Logical Fallacies. The ironic thing is that scientific methodology (which doesn't account for supernatural intervention of any kind) has generated the very technology he is using to deliver his ignorant, arrogant, self-righteous, misguided, and demonstrably false, "Science NEEDS Christianity," message. Thank you for taking time to share your critique. I hope you don't mind that my own analysis is somewhat lengthy. It's difficulty to properly address SO MANY wrong things without being a bit verbose.

[@BKKRED2008]

"Why is it wrong to lie about your results?" I think that sentence summed this guy up.

[@cy-one]

I haven't reached that part, but if it's true... *facepalm* Reminds me one one AXP-caller being like "Knowledge doesn't matter"

[@artofthepossible7329]

@@cy-one “If someone proved to me that Christ is outside the truth and that in reality the truth were outside of Christ, then I should prefer to remain with Christ rather than with the truth.” To quote Dostoyevsky.

[@cy-one]

@@artofthepossible7329 So... "Who cares about what is true, imma continue following my religion even if it's factually wrong."

[@artofthepossible7329]

@@cy-one Pretty much. After all: "Without God, then all things are permitted." which is utterly terrifying for all maybe 3 people (who will find it exciting and glorious) since there is no "good" "evil" "absolute truth" anything "absolute" is made void! Any form of Western morality collapses... the concept of morality itself collapses. To quote Nietzsche: "In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point!" In that regard Dostoyevsky is far superior then this very channel.

[@samsaffron3916]

There needs to be a facial hair-warning. I was not prepared.

[@AmineRahmani_]

Science has nothing to do with belief. People who claim science has proven or disproven God simply don’t understand how it works.

[@timo4463]

those people also probably never were in a good school in germany only a singular school of our 3 (Haupt-, Realschule and Gymnasium) is teaching physics etc i had to go done to a RealSchool and people there were so stupid they knew nothign about anything they couldnt even speak or write in english and i really miss my old school they experiments were fun to do

[@BrianHartman]

It's kind of amazing just how much Dr. Bannister misses the mark. And it's not like he even picked a hard question to address. The way he phrased the question, he could've simply said, "Faith and science are two different realms that ask two different questions." And he could've legitimately said that science can't answer questions like "Where did the universe come from?", because anything outside of our universe is something we have no empirical data for. If there was a god involved in the creation of the universe, that only gets you to deism, but at least that leaves space for some kind of god, if you want to believe that.

[@ekinbekmezci8555]

Went to a Christian burial mass today and the priest spent 20 minutes explaining how the death of a 5 year old with heart failure was part of "Gods plan" come on

[@ekinbekmezci8555]

@lauri No, I dont.

[@not_elm0]

1:54 That pause tho. Alex is a natural comedian 😆

[@Jono98806]

If christianity was required for science, then how would you explain pre-modern science? Like, for example, Archimedes' discovery of his principle in ancient Greece or Al-Hazen's development of geometric optics during the Islamic Golden age? The now recognised founders of modern science like Galileo etc did not actually invent science, they mostly a tradition of scientific thinking that came before. Christianity did not even exist yet when the ancient Greeks invented science.

[@WyattCayer]

Digging the beard my guy! haha

[@SterrinsWildWorld]

I just looked it up in a 2008 edition of On the Origin of Species and it does mention "the Creator" in the last passage unfortunately....

[@mushfiqurrahman1107]

People: lets check out the new video by cosmic skeptic. Me: *BEARD!*

[@codegeek98]

15:36 I have actually seen this argument (moral injunction against lying forms itself in/from ANY epistemic field) in a fascinating essay: _Is Requires Ought_ on the blog "Unstable Ontology" by Jessica Taylor

[@robertmcclintock8701]

God was crying for years. It sounded like a squeaky wheel that sounded like a bird. It didn't make me feel mentally ill and was kind of comforting not being alone. I didn't think of suicide the whole time God was crying. That was probably it's purpose. He probably saved my life.