Have Pagani Finally Made An Original Watch?

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Well, have they finally done it? Have they released a decent watch that isn;t a 1:1 copy of somethign else? Yes, I think they have. Perhaps a combination of a few different watches, but that's OK by me. Cheers, Jody

[@nickfowler515]

I think it's original enough. If it were a U.S. or Euro microbrand, we'd give it a pass when they tell us that "our watch is inspired by the classic chronographs of the past that we love so much." I think it looks nice, and I like that tight lug-to-lug.

[@guitarhamster102]

So stupid how white people get the pass for everything

[@Uniongamers]

Pagani isn't a micro brand. Pagani Design (The name isn't even original) watches are made in a Chinese mega factory to sell to customers who don't know about Chinese product cloning or don't care. This may be more 'original' like you say, but it still comes from a company that operates off the hard work of others in Europe and the U.S.

[@E9EXPO]

​@@Uniongamersas you're typing from your iPhone lol...

[@nvalley]

​@@Uniongamers they're made in the same contract factories producing microbrands watches

[@nigeljames3695]

I'm still waiting for the Pagani Eriboss to come out

[@leeheilong2937]

Pagani is very popular in Indonesia. People really like Pagani homages, it's not without reason that in Indonesia the average salary per person is 300 US dollars for one month, and in some cities it is sometimes less than that. For developing countries like Indonesia, Pagani Design really helps make people feel what it's like to wear a watch, of course at an affordable price. cheap for people in America does not mean cheap for the average person in Indonesia, because our currency is weak. At least homage watches are the answer to the feeling of wearing and owning a watch.

[@johnsrabe]

10:59 Absolutely yes. It’s clearly not a copy, for one. And for two, let’s face it, we’re really talking about variations on a theme when we’re talking about design on almost any watch. There are maybe 10% of watches out there, maybe less, that are a truly original ground-up design.

[@marcdaniels9079]

Good point. Same could be said with almost every product in existence too

[@darrenfry4695]

I agree, most people don't realize that the big brands steal the looks from other brands all the time .

[@painzy7]

This is finally the Bulova Lunar Pilot downsize we wanted😂❤

[@karlsenula9495]

Good on Seestern making the change - makes me think well of them for doing so.

[@BennyLlama]

This Pagani is dangerous. It's actually pretty nice, and it's not really a copy so I kind of want one

[@MTE1611]

Why are they dangerous? I assume cheap quality and sharp corners that can cut your wrist

[@BennyLlama]

@mte1611 it's dangerous because it's the first Pagani that I am considering buying. It's great value for money and looks fantastic. I imagine I won't be the only one tempted to buy their first Pagani

[@WH250398]

​@@MTE1611 No kidding, I own one. Really great watch, but I had to file off a sharp edge from a rivet in the bracelet. You're best off avoiding their steel bracelets.

[@hags2k]

Agreed. Been tempted by pagani many times but I’m not totally sold on design copies. This is something I really like and could buy and wear with none of the mixed feelings about wearing an homage piece.

[@MTE1611]

@@BennyLlama I'm don't getting it, what's the danger? The price compared to a Casio?

[@AlexanderB.]

OK...it's a mixture of Zodiac's case design with Tissot's dial and hands with the chrono pushers being their own contribution, their design if you will. But I like it, it looks way better on a nice strap.

[@KrazyShark]

Immediately thought about the Zodiac when I saw it cause I really wanted to get that one at some point but the Tissot one looks waaay more similar dial-wise but the case is definitely more Zodiac like. Honestly it looks great, lovely looking mix of the two :) And that price is just cherry on top.

[@brianmccord7387]

That explanation by Seestern is hilarious. "We called it original because it was originally produced by us." Well in that case, those Folexes are also originals.

[@chrispekel5709]

The Japanese used to have massive translation issues a few decades ago, the Chinese are just going through the same process I guess...Chinglish

[@brianmccord7387]

@@chrispekel5709 was it a translation error or a flimsy excuse?

[@chrispekel5709]

@@brianmccord7387 it would be a translation issue. I've tried to learn Vietnamese and my Vietnamese girlfriend laughs hysterically at some of the stuff I write. I have no idea why these Chinese companies don't pay someone with knowledge to check over their products, they want to save every single cent they can

[@chrispekel5709]

@@brianmccord7387 Folexes hahahah

[@kiwilonewolf]

I'm getting Lunar Pilot vibes... at a reasonable price!

[@luismasanchez9367]

At first glance, It reminded me to the blue 43mm. lunar pilot

[@OBH123]

I think they’ve given us the Bulova Lunar Pilot, in the case size we wanted. Different colours, yes, but her similar case, pushers, bracelet. I like it.

[@yosefkashani9470]

Came here to say this.

[@AbdulRWatches]

Pagani is starting to use the edit button with the usual copy and paste one. Thank you Jody for the video 👍🏽

[@DummyDummy-vg3fx]

If you ever want to time anything, the chronograph subregister is quite unusable, but it is indeed a good looking watch !

[@theeverydaywatch]

I can’t be the only one who sees this and thinks that this is what the current quartz version of the bulova lunar pilot should be? It’s not far off, just a slight case re-shape, change of pushers, full black dial and you’re pretty much there!

[@rodpanhard]

I'd like to add the Orient Neo 70 as a watch that looks a lot like this Pagani.

[@cunawarit]

This is an original really :) We are at a stage where most watches take an inspiration from others, this is more original than many watches from big brands.

[@Razor_Burn]

Congratulations to them for trying something different as the dimensions and dial are nice so thanks for sharing Jody.

[@admarrero]

It has a kind of Bulova Lunar Pilot vibe to it. More reason for them to release an even smaller version.

[@johnsrabe]

I still think it’s silly to say “Design” on the watch. It’s like “Porsche Design.” Yes, Porsche, I’m aware that a watch is not a car. Thank you for pointing that out. Just say “Pagani” and get six letters off the dial.

[@wingi7722]

There's also some similarity to the Bulova Lunar Pilot. But yeah they can get away with saying that it's sort of original I guess

[@jamesblonde2271]

What a bargain, didn't know I had a "chrono beater" slot in my watchbox, I do now😂

[@JusttheWatch]

I... I like it! But the 24 hour subdial shouldn't have an orange hand. The orange accents should be used to differentiate the chronograph functions from the timekeeping functions.

[@seranadesongs]

Yep Jody, wasn't expecting really good lume, and I wasn't disappointed 😅

[@joshrunkee]

Reminds me of a smaller version of the custom Breitling that Sean Connery used in Thunderball.

[@SW-by9ob]

Definite Bulova Lunar Pilot Mini vibes, right down to the chrono pushers.

[@SteveFWatches]

Pagani giving half links was not on my bingo card for 2024. Let’s hope more brands do it especially those with integrated bracelets

[@Adrian_3006]

That's very cool Jody. So many watches in various categories now that it's hard to design something that doesn't have overtones of others. Great effort Pagani!!

[@elzafir]

It's an homage (not a clone) of the Seiko Chronograph SSB425 (similar case shape, same tricompax color combination, same bezel placement), with a bit of the Tissot 1973 colors sprinkled in.

[@simonredman4805]

No, not the same case shape.

[@elzafir]

​@@simonredman4805there are differences in homages. It's not a clone.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

Seiko has a normal pilot case. This is a classic '70s style cushion case. See for example the Heuer Carrera 1153, or the Seamaster 045.016.

[@khackett7]

Btwn this and the pd1761, this is a bit of brilliant “homaging” on Paganis part. They both are effectively the quartz alternatives, with far more appealing dimensions to their automatic counterparts.

[@watchalot919]

else Better than a Seiko at a fraction of the price. Amazing VFM. Definitely original in my opinion, especially as all watches have some sort of resemblance to something else

[@stuarts1974]

Not all speed masters look like the moon watch. There’s no way they’ve done an original design. It’s gonna be a one for one of something that’s out there and my money is on something from the Omega Speedmaster range late 60s thru 70s.

[@ace73pq]

With its dial and pushers, it reminds me the Junghans 1972 Chronoscope quartz...

[@paulblakey4589]

Great video Jody. Lunar Pilot inspired I’d say but different enough not to be a copy. Pity about the Lume but something’s got to suffer at that price. Great looking watch though. I’ve ordered a blue bracelet version from Amazon £89 approx. Thank you Jody

[@bigfromagemovies]

It’s really nice but surely a shrunken Bulova Lunar Pilot? Looks nice and good value though eh?

[@speeeding]

Cool design. I'd actually buy this one, It looks just like a C-Shape case Heuer Chronograph from the 70's. So to me it's more of an homage than an original.

[@neildcosta5932]

Jody, I think the overall design is quite close to Bulova's Lunar Pilot Archive Series, where as the printed dial indices, minute graduation and sub-dials is Tissot 1973. Definitely not an original design in the true sense of the word. But as you said, a great looking watch and value for money!

[@drdesign6886]

You could play that game at the end with almost every single watch released nowadays. And you’d find lookalikes - across every price point and brand.

[@96kyh]

Yes, so true. It's just that we ('watch enthusiasts') tend to give the bigger brands a pass and today, look at the Chinese brands with negativity.

[@kunalmoharil6358]

Its certainly a copy of TISSOT HERITAGE 1973 (T124.427.16.031.01)

[@rickiecheese36]

Is any watch an original design? All watches take design cues from others that have gone before. This is probably the best Pagani so far. It's definitely on my list.

[@htschmerdtz4465]

Kind of midway between a classic Omega Seamaster chrono 176 and a Bulova Lunar Pilot, but I think it is distinctive enough not to be an homage of anything.

[@MichaelG1986]

The first Pagani Design I actually like. It would look really good on a rally style strap.

[@robertsymes462]

This was my first thought ! Black rally strap with white stitching would look perfect

[@ragnarone5409]

This watch is a stap monster

[@VolkerHett]

That's about 98% of what I want and don't underestimate the 24 hour dial! After a week or two without the chance of seeing daylight you might need to know if it's midnight or noon and if you have to resync your rtty encryption system (oops am I allowed to talk about that some 30 years later? )

[@terryloh8583]

Nice find! I love Pagani... but I'd call this one a near homage to the 1970s Certina DS-2 Chronolympic. As I don't have $2K-$4K for the Certina, this looks like a great alternative!

[@gori277]

Hmmm… pushers are different, case size is definitely different, even dial arrangement and lack of date window is different… let’s face it, there’s only so much one can try and be original when it comes to chronographs and this is a pretty good effort.

[@JollyRoger1969]

I'm really liking it but I wish they had an option for a blank dial like steel dive does or maybe just their shield logo.

[@luke.perkin.inventor]

This is lovely! Surprisingly no comparison to bulova lunar pilot? One of my few regrets is my red and white pagani 1701 moon watch, I thought it'd be playful, but it just doesn't tickle me, looks cheesy. The pushers are clunky, the sapphire just isn't that nice. This looks like a better option.

[@saevans63]

I can see the similarity especially the chrono pushers

[@luke.perkin.inventor]

@@saevans63 Indeed. It looks so neat and wearable too. The bulova is huge, a real monster. I don't think I'd ever wear it, even though I love the idea of 262khz from a horology perspective.

[@saevans63]

@@luke.perkin.inventor I have the Bulova. It is a large watch but it does wear well on my wrist.

[@ahha6304]

I was gonna say "Bulova Lunar Pilot"

[@RavenWindrunner]

I think that looks great, it caught my eye a little while ago but kind of forgot about it. Looks like I'm getting a third Pagani Design Chrono (the vintage patek with a salmon and brown dial, and the white and red moonswatch inspired one)

[@startrek100176]

Apart from the pushers it’s a near exact copy of a Bulova Lunar Pilot. I am wondering if they will ever make anything original.

[@fergiet18]

Good looking watch I must admit. For the price it's a steal.👍

[@jerryjensen6430]

I have been checking that one out for a few weeks. Was waiting for a good Ali sale. However I may need to save for one of those new Erebus watches.

[@MisterE495]

I’m surprised you didn’t compare it to the Bulova moon watch.

[@Happyfacehotwheels]

I just found my next pagani. That thing looks great. I have the daytona, and the speedy look like. The Pagani speedy is the best watch they made so far, but this one looks to be a good contender.

[@TomasWatchReviews]

looks nice, got blue on the way

[@suheilkaspar8885]

Maybe Bulova Lunar Pilot

[@Hard_7_Iron]

That’s a fine looking watch! Bang for your buck is TOP NOTHCH. 🎉

[@Celebmacil]

Good looking watch, but I just ordered a different chronograph from Pagani, their PD-YS008 with the rose gold case and coffee dial. Oh well, there's always another sale for later, I suppose!

[@hawkeye454]

Funny I just ordered this just before this video dropped lol

[@saevans63]

To my eye the case shape and chronograph chapter ring is reminiscent of an Omega chronograph 176.007 from the 1970s. However the chronograph pushers on the Pagani are more like a Bulova. Looks good though and worth considering at the right price.

[@MaartenAnna]

It makes me think of a Bulova lunar pilot in 39. But quite nice.

[@bobshoe1]

Are you planning to review the Pagani homage to Longines Zulu Time? Love the design.

[@williamthomas6106]

I love the PD1701. Yes, it's a speedy clone, but it's the most accurate watch I have. It even beats my Bulova Lunar Pilot.

[@P_Ezi]

Now wait a minute....It beats the Bulova in size, for sure, but the Bulova sweep and the Bulova heritage are something else.

[@williamthomas6106]

@@P_EziIt’s more accurate than my Lunar Pilot, as hard as that is to believe. That mecha-quartz movement is something else. As far as everything else goes, the lunar pilot beats it hands down. But to outperform the Lunar Pilot is saying something.

[@P_Ezi]

@@williamthomas6106 That's good to hear. I'm a big fan of old Bulova tuning forks, and I love the idea of the smooth sweep precisionist /UHF/262khz movements as it is at least reminiscent of the tuning fork sweep and accuracy. I just wish the LP had a smooth full time seconds hand and a bit smaller case. I do like the looks of this Pagani...

[@davidevans5571]

Bulova Lunar Pilot. As soon as you opened the box.

[@gregtolley3455]

I like it, I mean heavy Tissot 1973 vibes but still nice.

[@lonniesharp9109]

Try as I may, I simply cannot bring myself to like any case that reminds me of the Seiko Turtle. I irrationally hate it. That said, it's a beautiful dial and I'm glad Pagani are venturing out past their safe zone. 😎

[@jeremiahbachmann3901]

My wife got me a Pagani watch for Christmas. It was the correct watch, but had a black bezel where it should have been green. I returned it. I don't trust them enough to get another one.

[@cristianaviles6473]

😮

[@carlhatfield2941]

I ordered one of these with the blue face and band, and although overall I like the watch a lot, the blue is much darker than Pagani's pictures would suggest. The color is nearly black, it's so dark. I'll keep the watch because it's great looking, but I wanted a blue face, not the dark royal blue that I ended up getting. Just be aware that the Pagani pics are somewhat misleading.

[@SalvatoreDiazManrique]

White Is better....

[@HSalamista]

Hey, I get some Tissot wibes from it 😂, namely the Heritage 1973 Chronograph!

[@Hrethgir]

The dial screams TAG Heuer Carrera glassbox, what with the running seconds being a stealthy subdial (it's the panda version of the Skipper)and the tachymeter bezel being inside the crystal. It's almost like the Skipper and the Tissot you showed had a baby.

[@bouldervideonews]

Pagani Design's new chronograph resembles the vintage Bulova Lunar Pilot, Heuer Carrera, and many others with a tonneau case design. In 2021, a micro brand, Soldat, released Promessa, similar to this PD1782. At least, this PD chronograph is not a 1:1 copy but a true sense of homage inspired by the 1970s chronographs. I ordered one with a rally strap.

[@grahambawden4060]

It reminds me of the Omega Cushion Case chronographs of the 70's somewhat. Agree with your choice of colour, black on white always more readable than the darker dials. Nice watch for the money. Great video as always Jody, keep them coming.

[@NotoriousK_I_T]

I actually really like this one, but as i just bought the Seiko 'Seitona' Speedtimer SSC937P1 in the Gulf colours, i don't need another chronograph.

[@blacktoothstavros2606]

You can't go wrong with Gulf or Martini colours.

[@charleshughes1690]

Actually love it but very close to Bulova Lunar Pilot,

[@TheWobblyCameraGuy]

The face design is nicely executed and balanced 👍

[@birdytiger]

I've been pondering one of the pagani RM lookalikes because I don't have anything like it in my collection, but haven't seen many reviews from my trusted channels (probably because they have taste)

[@TheProco2020]

Almost bought this watch but didn’t due to brand name. Bought a Addisdive AD2037 as cheap, almost a panda dial and sterile dial. Not the same aesthetic and certainly not “original” but will mean I can rest some of my vintage watches and not worry about water or other damage. Now waiting for its delivery from China to see if I’ve bought a lemon. How about a review of this watch as KZbin doesn’t seem to have many.

[@franciscozaragoza7193]

Detroit Mint has been making one of these called the Caretta. Can you do a review comparison on that

[@574rz460v3]

Has anyone ever lume modded a pagani. I have several and have been tempted to give it a go. I’d have this in a heartbeat if only they would finish the job.

[@calin7up]

I see it more like The Bulova lunar pilot/Tissot baby 😊

[@davewelsby9737]

I thought this was a homage to the speedmaster mark ii just with rectangular pushers?

[@j3xk72r9]

Has some simularities to the Bulova Lunar Pilot?

[@st4ndaman]

Great watch and a great review. Push pins or screw pins on the bracelet?

[@simonredman4805]

Push pins.

[@andrejohnson6731]

Is Pagani stepping up their game? ❤

[@jonathanmelton640]

Looks an awful lot like the Lunar Pilot to me

[@williamdelmar3964]

Bulova Lunar Pilot influence?

[@bryangamara4950]

Aren’t the pushers quite similar to the Bulova Lunar Pilot?

[@owenlaprath4135]

I like it! I am just very puzzled, why everybody is not seeing something I see, and i is VERY obvious! This is clearly inspired by the Bulova Lunar Pilot! A bit smaller for sure, but compare the two. See it? WHY OH WHY does NO youtuber see this? The only differences are that the pushers a wee different, it has coloured eyes as if somebody punched it, and it is smaller, that is it! Otherwise, it is a very nice and attractive watch, and for average to smaller wirsts, this looks a heckuva lot more comfy than the chonky Bulova! The Seiko VK63 is also a very accurate calibre, as I can vouch for it with my Pagani "Newman's Own", which came complete with salad dressing and a pizza! ... (just kidding...). Anywho, this means, especially since Bulova apparently back-pedalled about the 10sec/year accuracy, because their Loonie has NO thermal compensation, the MUCH cheaper 80 or 90 dollar Pagani and its VK63 is nearly as accurate as the Bulova, that will cost between USD 379 and close to USD 800, depending which lettering you want on the face, and if you want a cardboard box with Moon memorabilia stuff in it! Pagani Loonie: under 90 bucks, compact, very pretty, proven calibre by Seiko Bulova Loonie: WAY over 400 bucks for most versions, the "collectible" memorial version at around 800, so about 9 or 10 times as much as the Pagani, a CHONKY bit of watch to wear, and after my personal failure rate of 3 out of 5 Citizen/Miyota calibres (just threw away 3 Miyota calibr watches in my box, but my dirty dozen Seiko quartz and automatics are still ticking after as much as 35 years!), my reaction in a store and on web store buttons to a Bulova/Citizen, is that of a stubborn donkey, that does NOT want to move!

[@Unlucky1776]

This is a homage of the lunar pilot no? Just slight different

[@stephenspain9167]

definitely the straps make it a winner

[@scottbeckett4190]

Perfect buy in November during the 11.11 Sale. I really like it but I’m off chronos for a while. Just not making the cut on the wrist time hierarchy. LOL. Great job Jody. Merci!

[@devynkumar1997]

Absolutely love this watch

[@simonosborne3047]

I have a few (seven) PDs, this may be an eighth - it's not too bad at all.

[@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm]

I was already in the process of ordering it before the end of the video… I have purchased several from the brand in the past, and one has even made it into my permanent collection. This may be the second! Thanks, Jody!

[@heliopijpe]

Very nice, I saw Bulova also has a few of these Panda Chrono - case models (The 98K112 Lunar Pilot )

[@batmansk6]

The blue looks killer. Might have to try one out at the next big sale

[@zivhl]

Great Transformers t shirt....where did you buy it?

[@AwkwardHorology]

My mind springs to zodiac and a little bit of Tag Heuer but I really like it! So this is what happens when Pagani’s toner runs out of ink 😂😎

[@Sid-ney]

For me, the case shape and pushers (excepting the left hand crown) looks most similar to the vintage Autavia re-issue from mid to late 2000’s. Reference CY2111. And that’s no bad thing, looks great especially at that price.

[@barrystephenson4365]

It’s a Bulova Lunar Pilot homage!!

[@michaellynady7271]

Not bad - sure the lume is 💩 lol