Have They Ruined Hyrox in the UK? or is it Evolving?

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Update: This video was obviously born from frustration. The numbers and percentages were gathered after various conversations with Hyrox Head judges, volunteers, affiliated gym owners and officials. If Hyrox think them inaccurate I would love the chance to correct them if provided with the official numbers direct. Transparency is important in situations like this. If the numbers are provided I will re-record this entire video and reflect on those updated figures very closely :) - Email is in bio ;)
I remain a positive contributing member of the Hyrox community... albeit a little frustrated :)
A dive into how Hyrox went from readily available tickets 3 years ago to now when tickets seem almost impossible to get hold of. It seems you cant get as much as a sniff if you are not affiliated with a gym. The frustrations of the out of date un fit for purpose advanced ticket buying is killing any chance of competing. So yes I made a video about it!
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@Solonomad-vz9uv 8 ай бұрын

If HYROX aren't going to add MANCHESTER, BIRMINGHAM and GLASGOW as events twice a year, then they need to add 2/3 more events throughout the UK. CARDIFF, LIVERPOOL, LEEDS, NEWCASTLE, BRISTOL should all be options.

@preidie 8 ай бұрын

Definitely need more in Scotland.

@stagelighteyes 8 ай бұрын

We were hoping to go to Spain in October and thought we had plenty of time to get tickets! We had to learn the hard way. Glad we didn’t make any travel plans yet. We thought 6 months was plenty of time!

@joannegalvin6025 8 ай бұрын

Completely agree, more venues needed with more back to back events 😊

@cazbruce79 8 ай бұрын

Totally agree! They need to severely cap the number of tickets for affiliated gyms (by percentage of members maybe?) or just offer a discounted rate instead. Plus more UK events would help spread out the demand. E.g. Aberdeen P&J live would be an excellent venue

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

I would love to know if each gym has a cap, i mean what might stop one gym buying 200 tickets. Id love to see the full stats. I suspect they are unable to provide them though, they can barely answer emails lol

@firehorseweddingphotograph3995 8 ай бұрын

Happening with Europe events also. Last year, in my experience anyway, you could book with literally weeks to go but this year, 6 months out, sold out and waiting lists. And the wait list for Paris has some kind of bug 😏

@rowalong 8 ай бұрын

The solution is PFT's. Those people who have seen it in a magazine and want to do it because it's the "Next big thing" - they can do a PFT to scratch that itch, and then they'll either fall in love with it - be satisfied, or - they're realise how tough it is!

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

You know as well as I do they've all but given up on them.

@leejohnson9739 8 ай бұрын

Well said totally agree. I was lucky the released an extra day for nec and managed tonget a ticket. Would definitely love if they did some in the south west

@pt9554 8 ай бұрын

Hi Martin, totally agree I tried and failed to get into Birmingham and Manchester fortunately my friend refereed at Manchester and got a free slot which he agreed to do doubles with me so I got in… but when you consider the time, effort, travel etc to referee it’s very expensive and when you work is difficult to justify. I actually sent an email to Spartan asking when they would bring Deka fit to the UK as this is a similar event and would be competition to Hyrox and I think would be good to swap and change between the two competitions.. no reply as yet!,

@joannadiaz3823 8 ай бұрын

I remember years ago when Spartan had one of their people at, i believe, the (first?) NYC event. Shortly after, Deka was born. The same way Spartan took over obstacle racing, they're doing with fitness racing by creating numerous opportunities across numerous locations and tickets are accessible. The knockoff is going to dominate US fitness racing. Hyrox entry is still nowhere near as bad here in the US, but NYC sold out well in advance. There's a high demand for the event that's only held a few times in the US, and most primarily on the other side of the country. I don't see how the demand doesn't make it possible to host more 2-day events. I'm seeing the rise in Hyrox affiliate gyms, but none within an hour drive from me. With all those gyms pushing their members to sign up for the only race in this area, it won't be long before we reach that point. Affiliate codes need to be capped.

@stjohns7884 8 ай бұрын

Simple economics would suggest they will hike the price till they hit the tipping point where demand falls and manage it this way (and make more profit on their bottom line). Would make sense for them to add extra days and maintain pricing but I think they’ll probably do a bit of both.

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

Also competition will continue to develop in the background. Hope the bubble doesn't burst like it did with Tough mudder. Its all changed so much in just 3 years

@stjohns7884 8 ай бұрын

@@martin-boyce Spartan Deka for one is lurking in the background. Can’t imagine they aren’t going to throw their weight behind that in the UK to gain market share.

@garybrewer1 8 ай бұрын

Well having just discovered hyrox events recently and hoping to do my first event at some point in the near future this development is quite disappointing. More events around the country would be a good thing especially in the North.

@Moretto5 8 ай бұрын

There’s an incredible amount of entitlement within the hyrox community. The events are incredibly popular now and there is a limit to how many people can compete. People want to get a ticket and have other people miss out to just get to the venue and then complain it’s too busy. It is a very popular sport but it is relatively young as well. People in the UK are very lucky with the amount of events which are put on that they don’t have to travel too far for. Just go abroad if you really want to do it, it doesn’t cost a fortune.

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

I know what youre saying, everyone gets a bit selfcentric about this stuff, like toddlers with toys. lol Dividing the market into those who can get tickets (through affiliates) and those who have to scrap over it in queues or ballots is where the main beef is. What's interesting since releasing this video learning how many affiliate gyms also cannot get tickets....even through the early release. Either an invisible cap or through wide spread abuse of codes. Either way how can Hyrox sell this as a perk to gyms if it cannot be fully fulfilled. Lots of problems to solve

@AlexanderFaulkner-Clarke 8 ай бұрын

Yes!!! I’m a member of an affiliate gym and I STILL couldn’t get an entry on the early access link 🤣 Great that it has taken off so quickly in the UK but agree that the supply and demand is an issue…

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

Its quite clear they are selling this perk to gyms without able to fully fulfil it. Theres more members in affiliate gyms wanting tickets, than there are tickets.

@N01da 7 ай бұрын

We saw you at spartan yesterday!!

@martin-boyce 7 ай бұрын

Was I running or milling about :)

@kandamy1 8 ай бұрын

Hi Martin- I couldn't agree more- and bizarrely, it only seems to be a problem in the UK. I have taken part in six Hyrox events in the last year and the European tickets were always much easier to get hold of. The problem they are going to find is that you cannot patent a set of already existing exercises. Anyone can set up in competition with only the smallest differences and if they are able to run as slick an event at a similar price point but with easier access to tickets they will win out long term.

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

Do other countries run the gym affiliation in the same way, as in offer this free for all 48 hours on tickets bit?

@kandamy1 8 ай бұрын

@@martin-boyce I don't know- tickets are easy to get in Poland and Denmark but both of those countries only put on their first events in the last year. I also did Munich which I had no problem getting a ticket for. I have entered Valencia for November this year- no difficulty getting a ticket although Hyrox have now put on a second day for this event I think. I've entered the London ballot- initially it had the same problem of a massive queue and just as you got near the front it would refresh but they seem to have sorted that out now.

@kaprikornian1 8 ай бұрын

@@martin-boyce Aside from the UK, Spain is the biggest country in terms of attendance and I managed to buy a ticket both last year and this year to Valencia. They do sell out but not in a matter of hours so maybe there's some difference in terms of the free for all.

@kandamy1 8 ай бұрын

Okay, so beginning to do a little digging and I Googled Hyrox resale- I have added my name to a Facebook site for London tickets for resale. I suspected that there was some kind of market going on which means people are buying tickets that they have no intention of using in order to sell them on. I don't have a YT channel but if you want me to do some more digging and report back I will.

@dadbodvlogs 8 ай бұрын

Sucks to be fair, I was booked on in 2023 but had to pull up 2 weeks out due to injury. Have since been unable to get on an event anywhere near me.

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

It's completely not fit for purpose but it continues and Hyrox don't see it. They get their 12000 competitors no matter what they do

@ScottishJazzman 8 ай бұрын

I’d favour more events, but I appreciate the challenge is in finding suitable locations.

@benmurray1975 8 ай бұрын

There plenty of venues across all of the UK waiting for Hyrox to use them. Aberdeen has the P&J Centre which is more than capable of holding a northern Scotland event and I’m sure England has several large venues also. Not sure why Hyrox are taking so long to grab the market as there are other options that are following them and they will be growing quicker if Hyrox don’t do something.

@martinclennell3023 8 ай бұрын

I don't think the issue is really the abuse of affiliate links, although this is annoying. There are simply far more people that want to take part than there are places, the solution is more events, which means more sales and profit, win win! Anyway great video, comments to views ratio is looking impressive.

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

If nothing else it's been a catalyst for conversation. Even if it is a bit divisive.

@benmurray1975 8 ай бұрын

The business of Hyrox won’t mind who you are as long as they sell out, no matter how the ticket is sold, they’re the winners. After all, it’s a business and will most likely be sold to a global brand in due course who’ll take it to the next level.

@Solonomad-vz9uv 8 ай бұрын

I equally struggle to understand why we only have 3 English events and 4 in the UK. Spain and Germany typically hold upto 6/7 events a year with what seems like a smaller fanbase.

@veniuslawrence7746 8 ай бұрын

I believe because it stared in Germany

@Solonomad-vz9uv 8 ай бұрын

I started training for Hyrox in late 2021 with my first event at Manchester 2022. After not being able to get tickets for MAN 2024 due to them selling out within a week. I attempted to get tickets for BIRM 2024 and failed due to the affiliate link being exposed, now I more than likely won't be able to get a ticket for London EXCEL later this year. I find it incredibly frustrating and whilst HYROX are selling out. Fans who have been there since the first ever UK Events are being neglected. Hyrox UK is ran by a team of Young Adults and whilst the growth is fantastic to see, it could crash and burn if they continue to treat the Die Hard HYROX fans with no respect. A loyalty system should be in place for the upcoming UK events.

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

Agree totally

@dougtucker9081 8 ай бұрын

also, unless fixed, Hyrox won't necessarily get the best athletes competing. there really should be a seeding or something; as you stated, one invested a huge amount of time in training alone.

@paulconetta2159 8 ай бұрын

Have kin da lost intrest in Hyrox now as have not been able able to get a ticket after doing my first one in Glasgow last year.....If you feel like there is no chance of getting one then why bother ...oh and £60 for an affiliate gym not up here in scotland chepest ive seen is £99 a month and thats for limited number of classes a week ...Im no super athlete just a 60 year old who loves exercise but it feels like unless you are in the know you are out ..

@MattWatson-qx5th 8 ай бұрын

I agree with what you are saying. You like to think the bubble will burst but I can’t see that happening. At least with the ballot it’s giving some fairness to it. I think they need to get rid of being able to sell on your ticket. I actually think that’s worse. I know you can get injured and that sucks but you should only be allowed to sell it back to hyrox and not to another person

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

Ballots have an adverse affect of encouraging people to sign up who don't intend to do it. Have a go types. Also ticket touts will take advantage.....it's all broken

@vdgadef 8 ай бұрын

Affiliate gyms - Every gym has its own individual code capped at a certain amount. Loyalty scheme for repeat customers to be given first choice of a ticket to next events similar to music festivals. First time competitors to enter the ballot for the remaining tickets.

@ianabercrombie5170 8 ай бұрын

This x1000

@jonathangilhespy1572 8 ай бұрын

Surprised to find out how few tickets are open to the general public. I think it will be interesting where HYROX will be in a few years. Are we at peak fad or is it going to stay this popular either way HYROX need a plan that keeps as many of it’s athletes happy and coming back before they lose interest and move into another sport.

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

This whole thing reminds me of Tough Mudder when it first launched, it was extremely popular in the early days, but as the years rocked on and competition caught up it eventually was their downfall

@johnmcilravey5521 8 ай бұрын

Have a volunteer code and signed in for the early access just to be told you’re too late 😡

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

Wow, at least Steroid Steve down at Macho fitness got his ticket, that's the main thing

@matthewplampton955 8 ай бұрын

Hyrox UK acting like a business rather than a developing sport. Creating demand for tickets fuels demand for gyms to sign up to affiliates which makes them easy money. Guess people need to remember the reality that this is a fitness brand, not a sport that truly cares about athlete/ sport development and welfare. It's also why we see over crowded tracks at UK events etc.

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

You're very right. They want to be perceived one way (sport for all) but In reality money is dictating every decision (business)

@matthewplampton955 8 ай бұрын

@@martin-boyce oh yer the sport for all thing is a joke. 120 plus ticket prices and you need to belong to a fancy affiliated gym to have a legitimate chance of getting in. Fast becoming one very elitest sport. Find it very amusing when people are against good for age spots saying that goes against this access for all ethos... Which is a total farce.

@samosimoncic5020 8 ай бұрын

Is it really problem in pro devision?

@martin-boyce 8 ай бұрын

All tickets, all divisions, all events

@kandamy1 8 ай бұрын

@@martin-boyce And also us over 60's don't have a pro division

@aunzz7 8 ай бұрын

Its time to have some criteria of who gets to be in line to sign up first for the pro divisions based on your past finishing times and if the person does meet the minimum required time, they get in front of the queue - for this division this seems like a reasonable and logical solution as in any sport you cant just walk in from a lower division league to a higher one by your own choice, you get selected by a manager of the team or qualify in an individual sport by the required score or time

@preidie 8 ай бұрын

This is a race for everyone not just the fastest pros.

@aunzz7 8 ай бұрын

@@preidie exactly, for everyone which is called the open division there are people who are sub 60 and sub 70 finishers and a lot of them wont be able to sign up for a pro race over some who finish the average or below average times

@preidie 8 ай бұрын

@@aunzz7the pro isn’t just about time is the weight etc too. If you want that type of thing then they need an elite separate but just because you’re a bit faster shouldn’t make you have more privileged to a spot.

@preidie 8 ай бұрын

@@aunzz7interestingly when the tickets go on sale it’s always ether pro that’s last after the open to be sold out hence people go into pro who would have been happy in open 💁🏼‍♀️

@aunzz7 8 ай бұрын

@@preidie I said it in my first comment before, there is not a single sport where you can walk in to a higher division, it is earned - thats the nature of competition If these UK tickets wouldnt get sold out like they are, its fine, anyone can try out the heavier weights, but with that it wont allow the pro division to have most of the highest performers competing therefore its lowering the standards and the quality of the race its either Hyrox start adding more venues and dates in the UK, standardise pro division entries or create something like an Elite Pro Division Open - Pro - Elite Pro (qualification) - Elite 15 (qualification)