Hawaiian and Alaska Merger, New Order Coming & United Airlines News

EgyptAir wants to grow its passenger aircraft fleet upwards to 125 units by 2030 to meet growth and increase its global presence. Meanwhile, Hawaiian Airlines and Alaska Airlines are preparing for their upcoming merger by launching an application to the US DOT regarding routes. Lastly, United Airlines has provided updates for its future for the remainder of 2024 with fleet and operations at the forefront of its forecast.
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[@coyotegrad-collectables]

Congratulations on 9 years DJ!

[@VelvetCondoms]

I think Hawaiian joining Alaska makes sense. For the last 40 years, the aviation sector has been dominated by 4 airlines in the US: Delta, United, American, and Southwest. The most reliable methods of survival are teaming up with one of the big 4, Merging smaller airlines to combat a larger enemy, and having unique routes. Hawaiian has tried having unique routes, but this was ultimately not viable due to the nature of the Hawaiian economy. Hawaiian has teamed up with Delta for a long time, but Delta has never invested in the relationship and now Southwest is encroaching on Hawaiian's historic territory. Merging is the only option left.

[@lotusupra]

💯💯 youre one of the few people on here who actually knows what they're talking about

[@melbournechugging2999]

At United we guarantee our wheels won't come off 👍

[@tommercer3226]

At Alaska, we'll guarantee our doors won't fly off!

[@aviation_sean9839]

The USA needs more airlines, not fewer.

[@NeilMacedo]

Thanks for the news updates DJ. It would be interesting to see if the merger of Hawaiian & Alaska Airlines go ahead

[@byeager9345]

The United regional jet you pictured, the Bombardier CRJ700, isn’t a 50 passenger jet. It’s actually a 70 passenger, in 3 classes (6 first class, 16 economy plus, and 48 regular economy). I don’t know what the future holds for this plane. They are, like every other airline in the country, increasing the number of Embraer 175s in the regional fleet.

[@user-mc7bh9yg9k]

“Alascker Airlines”. Lol

[@747forever9]

Thanks Dj!!

[@sportsMike87]

Alaska and JetBlue makes more sense to me.

[@mtascp05]

Separate Boeing and Airbus fleets for their mainline aircraft. Living in SF, I always wonder if JetBlue would've done better buying Virgin instead of Alaska.

[@JeffyShyChannel]

How? JetBlue is heavily committed to the east coast.

[@MelissaWong-yb6jx]

Now Alaska wants Hawaiian Airlines

[@peterelgood1656]

@whenlizardsfly (see below) could not agree more. Virgin America and now Hawaiian - what has this done to competition in the West Coast market - nothing good. Bad merger.

[@steventravels4035]

Well, if the Alaska and Hawaiian merger goes through, expect that Hawaiian is going to go through the same changes that Alaska is going through today to make themselves more like AA. I’m kinda hoping it does not go through because of that

[@jwil4286]

More like AA in what way? I’ve flown AA and AS this year. I prefer AS for a few different reasons, including (but not limited to) the food, the onboard aesthetic (rather subjective I know), the loyalty program (distance-based instead of revenue-based [yes I know you can earn AS miles on AA flights and vice versa]), and the greater domestic lounge access (much less arbitrary than AA, with better standard lounges and access [using Admirals Clubs for the comparison, as Flagship lounges are relatively much rarer]).

[@joeppg]

United will buy Alaska and Hawaiian

[@steventravels4035]

@@joeppg I don’t know about that but, I wouldn’t be surprised if they do. Would be kinda cool to have them more on the west coast in Seattle, Portland and LAX

[@jwil4286]

@joeppg how on EARTH would they get that approved? the feds still have buyer's remorse over creating the Big Three/Big Four. this is why they came down on JetBlue so hard recently, both in its deal with AA as well as its attempt to buy Spirit. the only reason the Alaska/Hawaiian merger has a (pretty decent) shot at going through is that 1) they're not the Big Four, 2) they're not known for forcing other airlines to lower prices (like Spirit was), and 3) they have a total of 12 overlapping routes (with only two of them being duopolies), making any legal challenge rather difficult (especially when those two routes can see some competition with some divestitures).

[@dmcr9525]

@@joeppgThat would never be allowed.

[@GJGBTL231]

Once again a very informative video 👍👍👍 But once again now word about the big issue that has really happened in the airline industry since Friday I just don’t understand why you ignore this big events 😮😮😮

[@videlpineda9328]

Without the merger; Hawaiian won’t last much longer. It’s been losing lots of money for years now.

[@user-yc2oz8kc5k]

If AS and HA merge you know B6 will hit the roof. They may also try the same move, keeping B6 and NK as separate companies. The US Govt. may also wait until after Nov. to decide this request.

[@dmcr9525]

The thing is, AS, HA have a much better chance seeing as they really do not compete with each other and are in a different situation because of their networks.

[@jaxx-_-123]

In the case of B6 and NK, that would have been eliminating an untra low carrier. AS/HA are much more complementary to each other.

[@benjamindover4033]

Mergers almost never add to competition. Big lie accepted way too often.

[@sdstang01]

I would believe it if both AS and HI had many overlapping routes. They don’t! They each fly unique routes with very few of those that do overlap. The fact that their routes don’t overlap gives them a huge advantage at competing with the big 3.

[@user-yc2oz8kc5k]

UA is retiring its A320s as they reach 30 years of age. They have already retired 12.

[@JefftheJett13]

UA a321 replacing the 757

[@jfmezei]

The huge cost and complexities of merger will bring advantages that could be obtained with code sharing. The international authorities can't be moved until Hawaian is actually integrated. Consider Continental buying United. For a few years, despite shared livery, the 2 airlines retained separate certificates, and a CO crew had to fly on CO aircraft. There are issues with training, procedures, maintenances, ETOPS ratings etc that atre different between airlines and not so simple to unify. So if Alaska has authority to fly Honolulu-Tokyo instead of Hawaian, then it is Alaska that will need to operate the flight using Alaska metal. (Though they may be able to wet lease/subcontract with Hawaian to opetate it on behalf of Alaska but it would be branded Alaska airlines). (Until the 2 operating certificates are merged fully). This is one reason IAG chose to keep its acquisitions separate. The only winners in Alaska/Hawaian will be the bankers who take a good % of transation in fees. Ad they are likely the ones driving this.

[@hungo7720]

The intricacy of such merger can greatly hinder the operation of both airlines.

[@damnimloomin]

Even if the brand says Hawaiian or Alaska on the side of the plane, the CEO has already stated in numerous interviews that the flight attendant and pilots unions are going to merge meaning it’s going to be one airline pretending to be two for regulatory approval. I hate that you ignore this major factor. This merger is still terrible for consumers, And they will be one unified airline, but pretending to be two different brands.

[@erauprcwa]

It's not terrible for consumers because it is an expansion of both airline's route network. Hawaiian fails because they don't have a domestic route network. Alaska wants to grow into the international market, but cannot organically. So combine the two airlines and you have a massive airline with expansion into places other airlines do not

[@dmcr9525]

@@damnimloomin Whats to pretend??? 2 different brands, one owner. This wont be the first. Its been going on in Europe for decades now.

[@PalmSpringsKev]

I hope the merger doesn’t go thru. Alaska took over Virgin America and lost its way

[@Perich29]

Alaska made a big mistake of getting rid of the Airbus A321 Neo for the piles of junk Boeing 737 Max 9. never fly Alaska.

[@orange8067]

​@Perich29 they only had like 10 a321Neos, which just added extra, unnecessary training fees to the airline + you may aswell call the a320Neo junk if your gonna call the MAX junk, they are equally as efficient.

[@erauprcwa]

@@Perich29 The Max is doing well in the Alaska fleet. The Airbus in the VX fleet had a horrible lease agreement and costs Alaska Airlines more money to operate them. They were also limited in their route network and couldn't do the entire operations of Alaska Airlines making them pointless airplanes.

[@stevesmoneypit6137]

@@Perich29No they just got rid of junk! 🤷‍♂️

[@Milkinporsche]

​@Perich29 you make it sound like alaskia has 150 a321neos

[@bravoninetyseven]

What is "Alasker"?

[@charlesbayer5200]

Just how he pronounces Alaska

[@dennisfenton9733]

Please...an alternative to UAL to hawaii....

[@JL-gd3iy]

no doubt the airbuses will be phased out if the merger goes through

[@johndwilson6111]

Unlikely with the bigger backlog of Boeing aircraft.

[@t10391]

United should order A319NEO to replace 737-700 and keep the A320S or buy A220-300 /320 NEO

[@dmcr9525]

@@t10391 Hardy any airline is interested in the A319neo. The 737 MAX and A220 are better options. Out of more than 10,000 neo's on order, the A319 has only garnered 67 orders to date.

[@redbaronahp]

I hope to see a new logo with both faces on the aircraft.

[@dmcr9525]

They are going to operate them as separate brands. We probably wont see more than a small "Alaska Group" logo of some type on the Hawaiian Jets. They will likely sell the A320 family jets.

[@quick65filly]

Hawaska Air.

[@ExpectinSomeADifferentAlias]

i hope the Hawaiian / Alaska merger gets shutdown. Virgin America was watered down and phased out. I also don't want the Hawaiian airlines look and feel to go away.

[@skinnybricks]

Oh it'll go away all right

[@supertrooper73]

To hell with United.

[@leezinke4351]

What gonna happen to A330/321neo after they merged??

[@jaxx-_-123]

AS always said they liked the 321 but the VX leases on theirs the worst leases ever.

[@leezinke4351]

@@jaxx-_-123 should have kept them..

[@Zackrajk]

Alaska promised all the same when it came to Virgin. Now look how that ended. We know how this will play out. Bye bye Pualani 😢

[@jaxx-_-123]

They never promised to keep Virgin around. Virgin named was leased and the planes were leased. It never made sense to keep paying Branson royalties forever.

[@Thunder_6278]

I see a slow disappearance of Hawaiian air, may take years.

[@aaltvandenham]

Congratulations Hawaiians and Alaskans. Now you can enjoy direct flights to snowy mountains and tropical beaches by A320neo or B737max. Whatever you like 😂

[@vuho2075]

Where is the synergy? Polar bears & palm trees. 2 regional players trying to get into the major leagues

[@Dinson001]

Once again, I do hope that Hawaiian and Alaska Airlines merge into the name of Hawaiian-Alaskan Airlines cause it just makes sense tbh. I wonder how the merger will deal with the 787 in their fleet when the merger happens.

[@ge0graphaly]

that would be cool, but i honestly doubt that would happen. imho, i think that hawaiian will remain for some flights between hawaii and the mainland, as well as all intra-island flights, while alaska will take all/most international routes.

[@redbaronahp]

H for Hawaiian, Ala for Alaska. Hala Air. 😂

[@jaxx-_-123]

@Dinson001 - That will never happen. Most likely large text “Hawaiian” with smaller text under that “by Alaska Airlines” on all the aircraft that retains the Hawaiian livery.

[@markdc1145]

Those new Hawaiian 787s will be the first to go. Just wait and see.

[@realadrieno]

Damn you Hawaiian airlines for trying to exist under the thumb of American Airlines. We lost another good one boys

[@codyslade5558]

Consolidation will lead to higher ticket prices but I see that it is needed.

[@user-nc4su8qc3o]

Saliax. Predeje. Polevny. Roby. Cigaski. Pijoc. Taga. Gyme. Poderym

[@RareVapoizer]

Hawaiian sucks, their flight attendents are so rude and snobby.

[@SWExplore]

Problem for me with United's Boeing purchases...I won't fly on any Boeing product.

[@jpdurr]

The word / name "Alaska" does not end with an "R". There is no R in it. When pronouncing it, there is no need to add an R to the end of the name.......

[@ojaaviation]

They need the a350s

[@stevesmoneypit6137]

Wrong

[@JefftheJett13]

UA is ordering them

[@ojaaviation]

@@JefftheJett13 United needs the a350 so bad, the lounge will be beautiful

[@ojaaviation]

@@JefftheJett13 United needs the a350s so bad the lounge will be good

[@JefftheJett13]

@@ojaaviation yes, supposedly they have like 35 on order United has the most wide body aircraft and am glad to see them utilizing airbus instead of strictly Boeing! The a220 is a great option too if they can phase out the 737-700 and 319

[@robyoungquist5803]

I hope the merger does NOT go through. You know what they did to Virgin America 🫤

[@erauprcwa]

What did they do to Virgin America? VX was gonna be bought by Delta or JetBlue. You think those two airlines would've kept the Virgin branding?

[@jaxx-_-123]

@@erauprcwanobody would have kept the VX branding because it was just leased from Brandon and nobody would keep paying those royalties forever.