Normalize "Jon-Like" For Good Game Developers

[@YumYumStrudel]

Don't be Rod-Like, be Jon-Like 👍

[@Left4Coragem]

It's always nice to see interviews with the PoE guys. They know their shit better than anyone else.

[@niklazz7037]

I like where this is going. Jon-like... Poe-Like... Exile-like. Talk about stuff exploding in your face Rod.

[@hawg_tv]

bro its insane... the ENTIRE ARPG COMMUNITY is talking about it LUL and ripping on his ass.

[@niklazz7037]

@@hawg_tv he literally asked for it. PoE 2 Game reveal amazes 99% of viewers and gamers. Rod's logic: I think I should tweet something about it in a jelous and negative way so that I get all the praise for the hard work they've done. /Sarcasmon D4's future is bright with him on the wheel I tell ya...

[@Tehblood]

​@@hawg_tvto be fair, the arpg community has been "meme"ing diablo since before immortal

[@hawg_tv]

@ hell since d3 😂

[@AMabud-lv7hy]

Jonathan himself plays the game, and he often interacts with the players for mechanics-based questions and confusions, at least back in the days on both the subreddit and the forums. No wonder he'd actually know what ARPG fans really want.

[@gzayas08]

I was still rooting for D4 till the PoE2 preview and then that "Diablo-like" tweet dropped. It single-handedly told us exactly why the game sucks. They don't even understand that end game content is not the same as things to do when in the end game. Yes, one-shotting a boss 3000 times for zero drops is a thing to do, albeit lame. Let em burn.

[@JDarkona]

Even if Factorio is not your cup of tea, the developers are also legendary. I would like to normalize Wube-like for great devs as well.

[@Tehblood]

bit of controversy. but for the dev side of it, yeah

[@supremebuffalo6322]

title is a savage diss 😆 also, 2:30 cracked me up. good video

[@Uber_GoobTube]

We need to protect Jon at all costs. The way things are going, Diablo might only have one option left, and I'd bet they're taking quotes.

[@utmastuh]

diablo is part of blizzard who's part of activision who was bought out by microshaft. D4 also made a boat load of cash off their crappy game. I don't think selling the IP is in the cards, nor is diablo becoming D2 in the cards. They are not for the gamers or online audiences anymore, they are for the casual gamers now

[@Uber_GoobTube]

@utmastuh I'm referring to a hit-man, not a buy out

[@lazarjanos6549]

Someone needs to show Jonathan this video from 3:00 to the end, there is so much truth in those words!

[@itsATrappp]

I love this channel man...

[@hawg_tv]

ty man!

[@Envycc]

@@hawg_tv 100 dude you've inspired me to try make some funny content for poe and other games. I think its great what you've made. Firm handshake brother. i hope you get wayyyy more recognition. (i could see you in an Adam Sandler movie easy BTW). Keep it up brother.

[@seb4sti4n666]

The Lilith statute and all those region stuff you need to do in D4 so you have a character equal to someone else is what kill me in D4

[@vyktorzhuravlev8304]

Show to Jonathan our love - be as Jonathan like :))) Do not be as Bobby Kotick like, oh wait... :)))

[@TejasDudhaiya]

3:08 Thanks Bro, Your opinion on a good game developer, because I am a solo game developer and I am currently working on my first Indie game and I try my best to make a game that value of money, time and players have fun and enjoy playing my game.

[@hawg_tv]

Plz let me test it when you ready bro!!!

[@TejasDudhaiya]

@@hawg_tv OK Done 👍

[@DoctorStrange01]

Jon-like is crazy

[@SeRiOuS1675]

Jon-Like! 🎉

[@BeazyFaSho]

Truth

[@AjuntaPall316]

Straight up spitting facts.

[@nephram1702]

You need a shop with overpriced horses or armor, you need a mindnumbing crafting system,repetitive boss encounters, bad season mechanics, bad patches that get fixed with hot fixes and marketing product tieins.. pillars of a modern blizzard gane.

[@reneedewitt6021]

The campaign has to be good enough to want to redo, I’m pretty sure they have thought about that as well though. I can’t wait.

[@pmarnoze8321]

PERIOD

[@thomasschimmeyer8715]

Can someone please make a meme for Rod-like where it is his head on a dildo that jiggles as he talks? Please do this we all need it in our lives.

[@86TrapHouse]

I approve this message.

[@mattb6646]

Rogers-like, wilson-like

[@101wormwood]

diablo-like for anything that sucks is my favorite thing of 2024.

[@nirorit]

Did you come up with the 5 necessities yourself or is it something known? It’s spot on.

[@Entertained45]

After the first 20 seconds it is obvious why PoE is winning. Goals.

[@frostyiv1509]

Nah The GGG-like 🗿

[@86TrapHouse]

666-like

[@robskinnerinvesting]

This guy Jon is a genius.

[@mrtkone]

[@nameundefined4317]

Rod shoulda just deleted that tweet too late. Jon knows his shit if I was applying to work at game studios I'd work at GGG over blizzard hell I might even toss my resume over there. The sad thing about blizzard devs is they are so petty they will most likely put in code in future games if Hawg buys and streams and nerf his drops or ban him for any reason possible because they are petty dickheads.

[@Ceburekas]

hawk ull be with 300k subs in 2 months :D

[@hawg_tv]

@@Ceburekas man thanks for the faith

[@Ilyak1986]

If only the tooling and tutorials to *make* games were better these days. Basically, it's like "look, nobody's ever gonna compete with Path of Exile for the audience that wants to sink 5000 hours into a game". But at the OTHER end of the spectrum, when its main competition is called "bad" and "dogshit", why does it still take a century of man hours to develop a minimum viable product ?8( I wonder when GenAI/LLMs will allow human beings to actually use English to write code, do level design, prototype ideas, etc. etc. etc.

[@zengrath]

Jon-like wont catch on, no one knows who jon is unless they follow him, even POE players. But i will start using POE like for all arpg's, especially diablo, lol

[@TrivialTax]

true

[@nikoder8790]

No holy class in a "diablo" game, and no diablo in a "diablo" game. The fact that anyone plays it is hilarious.

[@hawg_tv]

And on top of that, they made the light corrupt, and infighting

[@charlestreibley9904]

So Glad I passed on the Crap-ellence & Shit-tasitc effort that was the D4 "Expansion". I am officially done with Diablo,. Great Job you took at least $100 of Blizzard's money as new found profits. A few million more player like me and we can soon forget the Diablo like games and look forward to the POE like ARPG's as you have earned by you hard work. Great Job GG, this is how it is done!

[@kieranclarke4373]

You missed the 6th pillar here, Master Hawg. The reduction of all that balance nonsense by bringing a game to a state of single-class playability eighteen months after official release. And...read my lips: "Must have centipedes!"

[@abelgonzalez158]

Diablows

[@86TrapHouse]

666-Like

[@zengrath]

campaign skip could still be a thing on new alts in a same campaign. his explanation doesn't address that. Sure a new league you have to do campaign again, but why do you need to do campaign on each additional alt after that if we are all on the same playing field then? one of main reasons i stopped playing POE 1 is i didn't want to spend an entire weekend off getting past campaign again, and this is also why i don't make alts in POE 1, getting past campaign once is already too much. However if they made it so you only did it once per new league, i would be more then happy to play with alts. In POE 2 just because it's new, i likely will create at least 2, maybe 3 chars realistically for POE 2 and do campaign 3 times (6 if you include cruel), but in future leagues i likely will go back to only doing it once and making only one build, because i just can't be bothered doing campaign over and over, which sucks in a game that is mainly about end-game. I appreciate them not listening always to public and following their vision, but sometimes they are stubborn on things that could help their game.

[@musicmucker]

My guess is even though it isn't ideal for a lot of players, they have hit on something that minimizes burnout and keeps people hype to return and spend money league after league. I have been on one character per league for a couple years now and wish every time that alts could heist/delve from level 1 or even just start with all the waypoints my first char unlocked. But being completely honest, I don't think it would lead me to buying more packs than I already do.

[@coachmcguirk8277]

It isn't "normal" when someone goes above and beyond their expectations. You applaud and praise this type of behavior, but it shouldn't be expected. You should not fault a developer for not dedicating every waking second of their life to their game. Not every developer is working on a passion project that started in their friend's garage. I'm not sticking up for greedy corporations that abuse their customers but let's not exaggerate here, you just want to normalize a setting that is fair and reasonable. It reminds me of when developers were talking about Baldur's Gate 3 and how it shouldn't be the new standard for customer's expectations of quality, and gamers lashed out since they saw it from such a negative lens (lazy devs!). But in reality, those developers weren't really wrong, although I think they should've kept their insecurities to themselves. I imagine any indie developer who is struggling to compete would agree, which is basically all of them. But even bigger studios shouldn't be required to dump 10 years of their lives into a single product with the sole purpose of entertaining you. You occasionally get an extreme outlier - an amazing masterpiece that some kind strangers across the globe have poured their hearts and time into, but that is NOT normal. It should definitely be rewarded though!

[@bobhadababy4079]

Developers caring about the game they are making, should be normal. Developers who are passionate about games and care about what they are doing and the product they are creating, should not be considered above and beyond expectations. The view you are taking is the problem in media industry today.

[@coachmcguirk8277]

​@@bobhadababy4079 Most developers do care about their games though, and releasing a bad game doesn't mean they didn't. The major source of the problem has to do with greedy, out of touch upper management. So someone like Bobby Kotick - who openly admitted to disliking video games while managing a titan in the gaming industry. I sense a lot of entitlement among gamers, likely due to being spoiled all of our lives. You cannot expect an endless of supply of high quality and innovative sequels to your favorite childhood games - the original creators are likely long gone, along with the original company owners, and many other factors. The people working on those games are just doing their jobs, not everyone is working in their friend's garage putting everything on the line with a massive gamble that could fail horribly.

[@blabla868584]

Have a PoE 2 key from me -> MT6DV-RLBPZ-H7TPJ-CN65T

[@niklazz7037]

you probably shoudn't have publicly put this out. Just saying.

[@blabla868584]

@@niklazz7037 How come?

[@random8625]

Looks like it's already been taken by someone else. If you have any extra keys, I'd love to get one. Thanks!

[@hawg_tv]

we have 2 keys left to giveaway on stream, one drawing tonight at 9pm another tomorrow at 9pm

[@fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu9577]

This key sat here for 10 Minutes. And noone redeemed it?!?! I typed it in(for fun and because why not) and it worked? Thank you so much, kind stranger. I will keep your generous engery and post my key under some video after I buy my pack.