Hay drying system

June 1, 2021 - Collecting and storing grass at "Het Hengelman" organic dairy farm:
- Deutz-Fahr Agrotron M620 tractor with Strautmann Ambion 500 forage wagon.
- Stepa hay crane with gripper.
- Storage shed with Frigortec hay dryer.

[@WowCreativeUsername]

To offset some of the negativity from the armchair experts, that's a really neat gantry crane!

[@robertqueberg4612]

Some of these armchair experts are putting food on your table. It is a unique gantry crane. The complete barn, handling, and drying system are built to do one thing. I have made many square and round bales over the years. The thing that leaves me wondering, is where is the advantage to this. There must be some very lucrative contracts with deep pocketed horse people somewhere. I do not argue that the hay looks nice from the camera’s viewpoint. You need to pick it up and give it a smell, while you listen to the “crinkle”, to really know good hay.

[@user-pd3gt3tx5e]

@@robertqueberg4612 The armchair expert need to use an open mind instead of just writing it off. Not every farm is their farm and not every climate is either. Some places have a very short hay season with cold nights with lots of dew. Hay just doesn't dry that well. This system is used to finish the hay not go from green to dry. If you tried it you might like it 😄

[@lordofhowell7158]

Serious operation! Brilliant video 💪🏻 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@martingardener90]

Nice video Jeroen.

[@napsec9807]

I assume this is a very rainy region for this kind of operation to be worth

[@christvercant5169]

Eens mooi om te zien. 👍

[@JDrostAgricultureVideoNL]

Mooie video

[@nazzarenoceretti8025]

Bellissimo video 🙋‍♂️🌈💐💚

[@asgharalirajput9510]

Big like woe Very nice Video

[@Chisszaru]

It's actually quite efficient, and it doesn't cost that much. They don't need to buy a tedder or a baler, and they definitely don't need to buy a silo. All that actually costs more than a barn with a crane and gripper, so they do actually save both money and time. They don't need to buy silos, new machines, new equipment, or hire a contractor. It's quite efficient too, and because hay doesn't spoil, it's a lot better to store it this way. Baling it or storing it in a silo takes a lot of time, and it's not as easy to handle. Besides, it's a lot harder to store and handle bales, and it takes way too long to build a silo. Besides, they don't want to turn it into silage. If you store it under a large sheet of plastic, it will turn into silage. Silage and bales are actually harder to store, it takes a really long time, it's more work than you need it to be, and it isn't that efficient, so it's easier to do it this way.

[@dougdoesit3013]

What about the loss of leaves from that much handling, the larger storage area needed vs compact bales? And how much hay would a person have to sell or feed to make the minimum set up pay for itself? Awesome and innovative but would be hard to convince me it would net a profit.

[@rainbowboa100]

hmmm, we used to just let it lay for a couple of days!

[@martindonat3249]

i wonder , after the drying process , will you bail it , or do you store it in its fluffy form

[@VolmerFilm]

When it is dry, the hay will stay in this shed. The crane is also used to put the hay in the mixer feeder.

[@samspade4634]

Wow, there is nothing efficient about this process. It might make great feed, but it looks like it would triple the cost.

[@roush211]

They skip the tedding and baling... then dry large amounts at a time.. im not sure how it's inefficient

[@Chisszaru]

They don't tedd the grass, they basically take the grass right after it has been cut, snd then they store it. It's actually efficient as hell. They store huge amounts of hay that haven't been tedded, and let's it all dry up under one roof, without having tedded it

[@skipscherpbier2736]

Welk bedrijf is dit mooie video

[@oghuzkhan5117]

waar is dit goed voor?

[@germangracia9627]

What is the advantage because I don't see it. More work, maybe. A tell you. Why not dry on the field and make the balers in the same place.

[@frantisekleiterman2082]

TOP!🙂

[@nafolo2003]

Great video! I live in a very wet tropical country. I was just wondering whether your solar powered system could dry freshly chopped Napier grass with 85% humidity down to 15%. What would be the daily yield? I would very much be interested in the drying and solar energy elements (not so much in the crane). Could you please provide a contact email where I could reach for more information? Thank you

[@class185]

Why hay is not dried out in the field?

[@erik5757]

lots of bad weather maybe

[@sjefdeijkers1393]

Begrijp niet waarom je zo'n dure installatie aanschaft,terwijl de zon dikwijls gratis hooi maakt en anders kun je nog inwikkelen. In Oostenrijk is het een ander verhaal. Natuurlijk erg mooie schuur, erf is weer erg krap aangelegd, maar ieder zijn ding.

[@luuxdraijer3484]

Nou der komen welles jaren dat het geen hooi weer is en wikkelen is gwn net wat anders maar dit is denk vooral voor bvb luzerne want door schudden haal je de blaadjes der af en nou zit daar nou net de voeding in

[@briansindhaysilage2108]

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[@Kurteis]

In Island ein alter Hut

[@sajjadidrees9756]

hello, can you give us more information about the process. which energy is used and how it is dried faster. And how much is the costing to produce 1ton of hay by this process.

[@VolmerFilm]

Energy is used from solar panels. Air is pushed through the grass and it becomes hay. I don't know the costs of the process.

[@sajjadidrees9756]

@@VolmerFilm what is the daily capacity of drying? and how much time it requires for drying of one batch of hay. can you give me contact of concerned person so I can get more accurate information.

[@andrewjones-productions]

This seems to be a very expensive hay making system. Why not make silage? Silage contains far more nutrients and does not require fully drying the grass and does not require complicated infrastructure to be created. I would like to learn a little bit more about what environmental or logistical challenges (E.g. areas with extremely heavy rainfall etc.) this system solves and what cost benefits as well as benefits for the animals that this system provides.

[@jhunter-bm9hm]

Hey Andrew, This system is used for a variety of reasons. One possibility could be the production of raw milk for cheese making. Raw milk is not pasteurized and therefore bacteria could thrive in it. The two most dangerous types for cheese making are listeria and clostridia. Listeria is dangerous for humans, clostridia leads to gases building up in the cheese. Silage (moist /warm) is a perfect breeding space for these two types and since they are soil borne, hay is the only way to get rid of them. This system provides a safety net for short harvesting seasons and unstable weather. Considering that this farm is located pretty far north for the production of hay, the dryer provides best feed quality and reduces spoilage to a minimum. Another reason could be the production of high quality hay for sensitive animals like e.g. horses, who actually require a certain amount of hay per day to keep their digestive system going. The market for high quality hay in Europe is still a niche, but I actually know a couple farmers who generate their main income from hay. Hope I could help!

[@andrewjones-productions]

@@jhunter-bm9hm Thank you! I did think of horses as I know that they are more fussy (for want of a better word) than cattle and sheep which I grew up with (Welsh hill farm). The one thing I didn't think of was cheese production. That makes sense. Yes, the market for high quality hay in Europe is still niche as you say, but I imagine that places like thoroughbred horse stables, zoos with special dietary needs etc might be willing to pay the premium for this type of hay. Your reply was very helpful. It is always good to learn!

[@jhunter-bm9hm]

@@andrewjones-productions Oh, you better believe that. The market is actually growing. Down in Southern France, you can actually find special hay farms like in California or Arizona. Considering the Zoos: There is a nice german documentary about the guy, who supplies the Hamburg Zoo. He produces 4 or 5 different types for different animals. The elephants prefer the grass out of the drainage ditches. It's very coarse and contains plenty of reed.

[@VolmerFilm]

@@jhunter-bm9hm Thanks for the information!

[@phi9495]

@Andrew Jones Productions It is not as cost intensive as you think. In that big scale the costs are around of making silage. But: With good hay you can make a very better milk quality and so way better products. It is also healthier for the cows, than silage feeded. It is a niche, but in the alpine countrys (Austria, Switzerland) it is a big und growing market.

[@markb1487]

Wow....I've no idea which country this is in..But guessing not the UK. 🤣

[@f.5382]

Germany

[@eppie1986]

@@f.5382 Netherlands

[@luuxdraijer3484]

@@f.5382 it,s the Nederlands i have been Here irl

[@willihormann9895]

Wäre Silo nicht viel einfacher und günstiger??

[@ramonluftgekuhltdx631]

Gibt immer noch Silofreie Vetriebe, für die herstellung von Käse

[@willihormann9895]

@@ramonluftgekuhltdx631 Danke für die Antwort daran hatte ich nicht gedacht.

[@robertambrose1168]

Look at the money they spent building that facility and the equipment the sun dries it for free

[@samkom33]

it depends where you live and if your LUCKY with the weather. I grew up in northern norway 50+ years ago spending most summers working om my sisters little sheep farm. raking gras by hand and putting it on string fences for drying. luckyly my sister had only around 30 sheep. most summers we got some dry hay in before the snow. but a few years she had to buy extra hay from somone with a DRYER, if it was a rainy summer without a few days without rain. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Hesjing.jpg/440px-Hesjing.jpg

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[@ANTON_ZHYKOV]

Да сеновал не плохой только смысл во всем этом не особо видно. Если нужно простои корм то силос и сенаж проще и выгоднее по кормовой ценности. Если витамины и микра и макро элементы нужны то установка по экспресс высушевынию. А так не два не полтора.

[@chrisk6156]

I thought it was going to be a horse operation for the rich not a dairy farm. Something doesn't add up here.

[@BRPFan]

Why not bale the hay?

[@VolmerFilm]

The grass is not dry enough to make bales without foil.

[@BRPFan]

@@VolmerFilm Why not wait till it is? Seems like a lot of extra work and expense is all.

[@JussiValkila]

@@BRPFan probably can't wait that much

[@samkom33]

@@BRPFan they probably dry most of the gras fully in the field IF the weather let them. and use the hay dryer just to be sure its realy dry all over. becouse most that have worked and lived on a farm, knows what happends to hay thats put to moist in to the barn.. eighter loose ore in a bale YOUR LUCKY IF IT ONLY HEATS A LITTLE AND SPOT MOLDS! It cind of sucks when it heats enough to catch fire and the whole barn burns to the ground.

[@kunoknollenbuddler2167]

Kleiner Tipp von mir: Gras mähen und flächig auf dem Feld ausbreiten. Ein paar Tage die Sonne drauf scheinen lassen, hin und wieder wenden. Ist der gewünschte Trocknungsgrad erreicht, Heu zu Schwaden zusammen rechen und bergen. DAS jedenfalls wäre ökologisch. Aber wir haben ja Gas ohne Ende. Also trocknet es ruhig gerne weiter in ner Trocknung. Bei aktuell knapp 40°C Außentemperatur und sage und schreibe 15 ltr Regen in den letzten 8 Wochen. Ich meine, is ja nicht so, als hätten wir ne Klimakatastrophe am Arsch.

[@georgwagner4438]

Du hast schon recht, mich würde dennoch interessieren wie groß der Unterschied zwischen verbranntem Gas und verbranntem Diesel für die extra Arbeitsschritte ist. Edit: So wie ich das verstanden habe läuft dass ganze auf eigener photovoltaik anlage auf dach

[@noelcahill6707]

At the cost of electrics there now back to using the sun

[@VolmerFilm]

There are sun panels on the roof of the shed 😉

[@longtran8744]

🤓💗💗💗

[@svens1331]

Da ist ja ein Dreck drin, ich würde mal nicht unter der Grasnarbe mähen

[@jimcox6687]

This seams expensive

[@ericteipen]

Looks to me like a ton of money spent for something that mother nature can do for free in the field.

[@timrobinson4058]

that looks like a waste of time to me