"Hazard" student pilot’s crash landing forces another student pilot to (almost) divert!

[@EchoKilo]

Silly me. I was under the impression that fluency in the English language was a requirement.

[@Flight_Follower]

Fluency in English? He was so nervous he couldn’t even talk properly!

[@jwest0402]

@@Flight_FollowerI don’t think we watched the same video. I heard one pilot speak English

[@whamo1966]

English proficiency not required if the flight school is getting enough cash.

[@JimBeshears]

We have a local airport that trains a lot of Chinese kids. Not making excuses for him, but when I soloed I was pretty nervous, and I worked with all the controllers at the Air Force base I was at. If they don't have a lot of practice with English they are going to have problems.

[@mrdan2898]

@@jwest0402 ?

[@davidcarr4464]

Why are these instructors letting students solo before they are ready... They should hold the instructors accountable! 🤦‍♂

[@calvinobrum1337]

Totally agree

[@Saml01]

Because they are all cut from the same cloth if you catch my drift.

[@shreddder999]

They will.

[@utley]

​@@Saml01 no, they are not.

[@OhioPalmTrees]

one word, money

[@whamo1966]

Is there ever any repercussions for the instructor and the flight school for releasing a menace into the air?

[@AV8T0R401]

Sum ting wong!!

[@kmonyt]

And his copilots wee too low, and holy fook.

[@davidcarr4464]

Wee too low...

[@Hoodedhorn]

@@davidcarr4464Ho Lee Fook…

[@gibbo9089]

Ho Li Fuk.

[@davidcarr4464]

@@AV8T0R401 Ding Bang Ow 🤣

[@calvinobrum1337]

Will the flight school be held responsible? Or will they just continue to make unprepared pilots go up there solo?

[@ahmadsamadzai8255]

Unfreaking believable. We're talking about the busiest airspace in SoCal. How on earth is this goof signed off for a solo there? That CFI is not a CFI if he/she is signing off on these idiots. At this point I think the 1st requirement needs to be an English competency exam before annnnyyyyuthing else.

[@SoloPilot6]

While it's true that SoCal airspace is busy even further out than it used to be, I really don't think that it's reached Oklahoma yet . . .

[@jimratichek2714]

@@SoloPilot6 Kinda funny, there is actually a Spartan aviation school in Riverside CA too, but they are a maint training operation. No Runway 1R/1L at Riverside CA either!

[@brucemurr]

Yeah, this is southwest of Tulsa, OK

[@Encryptedpilot]

its china companies plowing these students through

[@sliferxxxx]

Um this is Tulsa Oklahoma....

[@sharpe67]

Even a poor pilot eventually finds the ground.

[@AV8T0R401]

Did the Spartan CFI's actually teach them how to land or was this the 911 training program?

[@GWNorth-db8vn]

Seems like the way my old man taught me to swim by throwing me off the dock.

[@haydenbrown8421]

Like here in New Zealand the Airline Academy Flight school is just pumping Indian flight students through like it’s a chicken farm, every two weeks a new batch are let loose to cause havoc and consternation amongst other VFR pilots with poor comms and traffic alerts. It’s just to get there 200 hours up for a CPL and ATPL before they are let loose in right seat B737. No experience at all, meanwhile we put our lives at risk.

[@manifestgtr]

Some CFI is gonna have some splainin to do…

[@Dogfight2000]

Not really, as a check airman is not the CFIs responsibility to evaluate level 4 proficiency…

[@drn13355]

Felt like I was listening to "Deathwish".

[@Flight_Follower]

Terrible decision by the instructor for sending him solo

[@timduggan1461]

Late 1970s I was given an Iranian woman who wanted to learn. Her English wasn't too bad, but I swear there was NO WAY she was going to succeed, couldn't even understand how to taxi! Straight and level? Forget about it. I told her not to try anymore. We were Part 61, not 141. I do hope she didn't go somewhere else for "lessons"...

[@Flight_Follower]

Some people are just not meant to fly i guess

[@marks6663]

What shocks me is that someone can be just a kid with very few hours of experience and become a flight instructor to teach other kids. It's insane that the system works that way. Most people would be amazed to find out that often times the very first job a brand new pilot gets is a job to train other pilots. Lol

[@sacpilot]

The training process for CFI is quite extensive. They must earn the private pilot certificate, instrument rating, commercial certificate, then the CFI rating. If you make it that far, you're probably fairly proficient.

[@marks6663]

@@sacpilot that means nothing. It means you filled in the blanks and passed the exams. Anyone can do that, as so many lousy pilots attest. But you have no experience. And you have not been around to have learned important lessons. You have not proved you are made from the right stuff, much less proved that you are good enough to teach others. By rights a CFI should be a job only given to the most experienced pilots. It should be the job you get at the end of your career, not at the beginning. But the economics of it flips that on its head.

[@sacpilot]

@@marks6663If you're upset, talk to your local congressman about changing the laws of Title 14 CFR parts 61 and 141. That's the law of the land, bro.

[@josiahhall2212]

Tell me you’ve never flown a plane and are talking out your ass without telling me

[@marks6663]

@@sacpilot Yes, and the reason why it is legal to do this is, like I said, economics. It is cheap. Like H1B visas. Also the law of the land. And that is both the problem and the reason why we have so many lousy pilots. Money corrupts any system. In medicine, newly minted medical doctors are trained and mentored by very experienced physicians. We don't let brand new physicians be the mentors of other brand new medical students.

[@brianbay3229]

Two pilots with heavy accents, one has already crashed and the other doesn't want directions.

[@SoloPilot6]

The other guy's doing just fine. Forget the accent, and you hear that he has it together. He knows where he's going, and doesn't want to take up resources needed for other pilots.

[@landen99]

Chinese accents.

[@brianbay3229]

@landen99 I kept it somewhat vague in case KZbin "community standards"...lol

[@pieterwasalreadytaken]

​@@SoloPilot6he thought he was cleared to land when atc told him he was able to come back to the field...

[@10thmt87]

Seinfeld Party of Four...

[@nightwaves3203]

Gravity is still the same settling anything thrown at it.

[@austinformedude]

I see this happening a lot lately. Always the same suspects.

[@cstacy]

English is (by international treaty and law) required of pilots in every country in the world. It is the official language for this, everywhere. In other countries, the controllers and pilots are ALLOWED to speak to each other in their native language. But they are REQUIRED to be able to communicate in English. Some CFI certificates (and also some schools' certificates) need to be revoked. I only had trouble understanding one of the pilots. The solo was saying he wanted to go around, but the controller was demanding full stop. The controller at that moment was wrong. If you're going by the transcriptions on screen, often they are wrong. or say "unintelligible" when they are perfectly understandable to me. (This happens on the similar competing KZbin channels as well. I don't think any of these are done by actual pilots.)

[@jayc4283]

these pilot mills are a disgrace

[@alexsze5455]

Im Asian and don’t even know what’s going on😂

[@Bluffrat361]

wtf airport is this so I know to avoid this airspace

[@Benny1581]

These radio calls are awful... how do you get to a solo if you can't read back with your call sign?

[@GlamorganManor]

Even worse if the only thing you can say is your call sign!

[@08turboSS]

Train the foreig tudents at home

[@scottpatterson4105]

Current society trend, be and do whatever you want with little or no effort. Free to be Me!

[@SM-vs4ro]

He only needs to fly good enough to highjack a plan.

[@rickyism1576]

The CFI should that put him in the air should be ineligible for a commercial license.

[@cstacy]

"The CFI should that put him in the air should be ineligible for a commercial license." Wow, you really don't know how this works. To be a CFI, you have to have a Commercial pilot certificate ("license") with an Instrument rating, and also trained and passed the difficult CFI "license". What I wonder though, is how otten a CFI certificate is suspended or revoked for this kind of thing.

[@mannyrivera6990]

This is the reason we have what we call today .....the FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION !!!

[@Seawizz203]

Like many other federal agencies lately, they have their issues.

[@thomasmckendry8566]

Cpt. Bang Ding Ow

[@jamesharber7820]

It is painfully obvious that two of the pilots “talking” on the radio are graduates of the buy-den/harrisons’ English As A Second Language class.

[@mrman7849]

Get ready for the Trump green cards attached to every diploma and H1-B visas to make it 100x worse.

[@87mini]

So your saying this will stop once tRump is in? And the lion will lie with the lamb....🤣

[@billfly2186]

Where is this goat track? And Spartan Aviation sucks.

[@sahakiap]

sounds like this guy is on a solo discovery flight.

[@josiahhall2212]

Ahhh yes why am I not surprised

[@boxterjeff]

Won hung lo

[@craig7350]

It looks like a great flight school, but being born in America and fluent in English likely disqualifies you as a potential student.

[@thomasmckendry8566]

Wi Tu Lo