KLM B738 VEERS OFF THE RUNWAY | Hydraulic Issues on Takeoff

[@VASAviation]

APOLOGIES! 5:55 CAPTION CORRECTION FOR KLM58K: "Yeah, we have the APU running and we have shut down the engines"

[@eternalfizzer]

LOL! Thanks - I was wondering at that one ;-)

[@2DogsVlogs]

Only other correction is the pilot said 4 Tonnes of fuel not 4 tons. He said kilometres so its metric not imperial. I'm just a little picky, but only tons is now used in the USA. Everyone else is pretty much metric these days.

[@trulybtd5396]

@@2DogsVlogs 4 metric tons, then? It would be impressive if you heard the difference between tonnes and tons from a non native english speaker You use tons in metric all the time. It is 1000kgs. Or the mass of 1m3 of water.

[@NoWonderDragon]

@@trulybtd5396 ...but not the mass of 1 m3 of fuel (which is more like 850 kg) hehe

[@MrTuts4life]

@@trulybtd5396if the fuel is measured in T, then it’s tonnes, otherwise it’s LBs or KGs.

[@Henoik]

As a Norwegian, "erm.." is engrained into our vocabulary. That being said - this is a small airport, at this time of day he's likely alone in the tower, so he has to juggle coordination with the airplane, fire & rescue, airport ops, the busses, and everyone else on the ground, as well as the approach controller, to ensure other aircraft aren't coming in for landing etc. He did a fantastic job.

[@soiiv_]

ermmm, errmmm, you sure?? eermrrmr

[@sharimina3304]

The “erm” or “uh” in Norwegian drive me nuts when I moved there back in ‘99. I rather surprised that it is so pronounced in the English as well since most Norwegians speak English exceptionally well and often with a more native British or American accent. Controllers at both Torp and Gardermoen both had strong Norwegian accents and a lot of the “erm”.

[@trulybtd5396]

​@@soiiv_in norwegian "erm" means "I'm still talking"

[@soiiv_]

@ 👍

[@Henoik]

@@trulybtd5396 It's kinda like the stereotypical pilot over the PA "Uhhhh..."

[@Vtarngpb]

Man it’s been a hell of a week in commercial aviation… 😬

[@mcmuffin-z5v]

what a sad way to close out the year :c

[@DavidWsTrainVideos]

It was a hell of a day yesterday, in addition to this and the Juju air crash (RIP to those lost), there was also a Air Canada express plane that suffered a gear collapse in Halifax

[@NicolaW72]

Indeed. Really a horrible Christmas week and a terrifying way to finish a year.

[@NicolaW72]

@@mcmuffin-z5v Indeed.😪

[@tommychan3884]

More like a week of hell.

[@computerjantje]

exceptional great job by the ATC tower man. He was there all alone doing EVERYTHING. VERY VERY good job. My deepest respect.

[@thehighwayman78]

Yessir, I wholeheartedly agree! And probably constantly switching between Norwegian for ground ops coordination and English for KLM.

[@nicojones4272]

This is usually how it goes - Me: *halfway through reading an article about an aviation incident* "Huh, I wonder if-" KZbin notification: *VASAviation has uploaded* Bro, do you even sleep? Cheers Victor

[@gatolibero8329]

I was thinking the same. Like, how the heck does he get these so fast. 😅

[@benbookworm]

there's flight trackers out there that will notify you anytime an aircraft declares an emergency. Then go searching for the radio data.

[@Meisha-san]

same 🙃

[@nicojones4272]

@@benbookworm yeah FR24 and LiveATC are good to me but there's nothing like the full breakdown with map overlay, photos and all the other editing wizardry. Plus the comment section in this community is always fantastic

[@vinching926]

That's my reaction after hearing the Jeju Air crash... "Maybe VASaviation could upload a new clip with CVR recordings soon to show enthusiasts even the officials what the problem was"

[@Boodieman72]

Must have been a super loud bang if they can hear it in the tower.

[@WarHawkAU24]

Typically, during a foggy session, it's extremely quiet from the Tower's perspective. If you can't see the aircraft, you listen closer than normal to determine position. Anything out of the ordinary stands out. I've had a few blown tires from the tower and it is LOUD!

[@elpatl74]

Best guess tire blew apart on take off while in retraction, or a massive brake failure which compromised most of the hydraulic system. The veering was most likely due to reduced control due to blown tire, or said failed brake on that side. Just a guess.

[@davidwebb4904]

Luck nobody built a bloody concrete wall in the runoff area…

[@trilight3597]

From I saw that wall was apart of the localizer array.

[@boyuqiu2302]

Can't even find a single logical reason for that wall/mound to be built at that place... Who tf build their approach light on top of a wall/mound higher then the runway itself? So close to the runway as well.

[@davidwebb4904]

@ What a genius idea….

[@Tumleren]

It wasn't a concrete wall, it was an earthen embankment

[@RuchamaGrace]

@@Tumleren No it was a concrete wall. It was reinforced concrete. I just watched pilot blog's video about it here on youtube.

[@collin341]

Was waiting for this when the news broke ! Thanks VASAviation for the audio !

[@briarrose8154]

That power tower handler! He was so calm until they touched down & heard he was in the grass

[@Republic3D]

Yep. Torp Sandefjord is a very small airport, and he's likely never handled a situation like this other than in training. You can tell he was nervous, but he still did his job 100%.

[@subwolf7420]

@@Republic3D Torp isn't that small, and there has been incidents before. The next day more than 5,000 passengers got stuck because KLM blocked the runway. ENTO handles the low cost carriers like Ryanair and Wizzair, and the regional airline Wideroe. Up to 50 flights a day.

[@the_bottomfragger]

Good job from the KLM crew from what we can see at the moment. Very glad we didn't have another disaster.

[@KazKimura]

huh?

[@MrWiggenhammer]

​@@KazKimuralike south korea.where a plane ran off the runway and crashed. Dead people etc.

[@demi3115]

@@KazKimura A plane crashed in South Korea

[@ZombieSazza]

@@KazKimuraKazakhstan and South Korea had crashes, the emergency runway evacuation in Canada, it’s been a hell of a week

[@trulybtd5396]

Anyone else noticed how fast the first tower realized they had to reduce information to the pilots and gave temporary instructions before repeating the new frequency? Also, erm.. in norwegian means : I'm still talking. Torp is a small area air port. iirc the runway is in multiple municipalities. It just happen to have a long enough runway since it is/was used by the shitty "we will get you to the vicinity of were you are going air lines.

[@LB4FH]

I drove by the airport right after the emergency landing, I've never seen so many emergency vehicles heading in one direction before

[@johnhopkins4920]

Thank you for the upload, Victor.

[@chaseutter]

Always good to hear that there were no injuries

[@iemranjuffri4827]

The pilot is the epitome of calm and professionalism.

[@danielg9805]

Excellent calm professionalism well done crew and controllers.

[@NicolaW72]

Thank you very much for picking this Story up!👍 It is in fact the best one of which we heard this christmas week from the aviation industry, allthough it was scary enough.

[@mullvaden83]

VASAviation never sleeps. Read about accident in the news. KZbin upload already done. dude. well done! Thanks!.

[@decinabox]

Waiting for the Jeju Air Flight 2216 ATC conversation

[@A_JY-p2r]

In South Korea, it is uncommon to find real-time air traffic control (ATC) audio recordings posted on platforms like LiveATC. Unless an individual personally uploads such recordings to KZbin or other platforms, it is unlikely to access them. Specifically, in South Korea, recording ATC audio is not a widespread practice. Even in cases where LiveATC feeds were active in the past, the airport involved in accidents were often located in regions without feeders. It seems that creating an actual video with such content would take a considerable amount of time, and the likelihood of including authentic audio is very low. It is expected to take a long time before relevant authorities release a press statement regarding the incident, typically in text format only(accident report). Even in past accident cases, I am not aware of any instance where actual audio was made public. Known timeline (Local): 8:57 AM (0 minutes): The Muan International Airport control tower issues a bird strike warning to the Jeju Air accident aircraft as it approaches Runway 01 for landing. The aircraft’s ADS-B signal is lost on Flightradar24 around this time, likely due to the decreasing altitude. Its flight path also shows a slight rightward deviation before reaching the airport. 8:58 AM (+1 minute): The captain of the accident aircraft declares a distress signal, "Mayday," after the warning is issued. The initial landing attempt fails, and the aircraft initiates a go-around. 9:03 AM (+6 minutes): Following a suggestion from the control tower, the aircraft changes its approach direction to avoid residential areas and attempts an emergency belly landing on Runway 19. The landing gear does not deploy, and the aircraft is unable to sufficiently reduce speed. It collides with concrete structures and the localizer before crashing into the airport's perimeter fence. This results in an explosion and fire that destroys almost the entire aircraft except for the tail section.

[@simon199418]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5O9nKNtppZsnJI

[@Vtarngpb]

@@simon199418 thank you for sharing! 🫡

[@opienick]

@@simon199418too soon man jesus

[@LilA-zl6tf]

@@A_JY-p2r The same plane did emergency landing last Friday. Edit: That seems to have been medical emergency considering a passenger.

[@gemeen_aapje]

"Just standby" "Yea we're not going anywhere mate"

[@akhilgahlawat]

This has been such a sad last week of 2024 for aviation. So many tragedies one after the other.. RIP to all departed souls 🙏

[@whittybeeRN]

I was thinking that too. Remember the first week wasn’t so hot either…

[@uzlonewolf]

Thankfully it appears no one was hurt in this one.

[@NicolaW72]

Indeed. It´s a horrible way of finishing this year.

[@larsmeijerink5471]

​@@uzlonewolfno one is injured. This was a pretty soft stop, just a bit bumpy. This is why you always keep your seatbelt fastened

[@gatolibero8329]

Gonna be busy today, Vas. 😢

[@NoWonderDragon]

Small update: They found some 'parts' of the plane on the runway in Oslo (where they took off).

[@after_midnight9592]

Everyone's on edge after that crash. They say the safest time to travel is right now, when everybody is extra caucious.

[@Henoik]

Bad weather at ENGM makes diverting to the takeoff alternate a great alternative here. Kudos to all crew onboard.

[@Asptuber]

What is a "takeoff alternative"?

[@Henoik]

@@Asptuber During bad weather, airlines typically plan for a takeoff alternate to return to in-case of a non-normal situation requiring immediate return, but the weather makes the departure aerodrome unsuitable for immediate return. TL;DR: An airport close-by the departure airport where they can divert in case of an issue.

[@Asptuber]

@@Henoik Thx. Makes sense, I'd just never thought of it.

[@N1120A]

​@@Asptuber sometimes, a departure alternate is required if conditions are below a certain minimums

[@Asptuber]

@@N1120A Thx - so this isn't something that is automatically always set/planned/nominated? Only when conditions are x or y? Thinking further: Since weather is such a big part of this, doesn't it get tricky? Because what is the point of a _departure_ alternate if it is too far away, but if it is close the chances are good that the weather will be as bad there as at the actual departure airport... (OK, if the actual dept is pretty small it makes sense to nominate somewhere with longer runways, better equipment etc as an alternate even if the weather is likely to be similar) But am I getting it right if I think that the main idea is to have somewhere reasonably close either already briefed or at least "charts close to hand"?

[@dpm-jt8rj]

@VASAviation I have always enjoyed your videos.

[@GodWasTaken76]

2024's aviation season finale is making me nervous.

[@NicolaW72]

Me, too.😪 It´s a horrible way of finishing this year.

[@larsmeijerink5471]

Its only going too get worse. A few high ranking pilots were warning about this in 2022 but nobody believed them. Sadly they were right and its only going too be worse

[@ehmha3641]

It started with that awful colision in Tokyo and ended with this horrific week :/

[@JanetJones4367]

the shaking in the ATC controller's voice. Must have been beyond terrifying.

[@eastwest1362]

Excellent handling from Torp tower. Controller was juggling everything in correct priorities - alone in the tower seemingly (and in English with the plane and probably Norwegian with the services).

[@paulwoodman5131]

Isn't there usually a system where the pilot and crew can radio with the emergency captains? that controller in the tower was outstanding. 🎉

[@vernatrudeedente2959]

Glad everyone was ok! I deal with norwegians often and the accents and intonations of ATC are still hilarious to me, especially the hesitation at 5:45 😂😂 it’s like they all sound exactly the same!

[@lindorini]

As a norwegian, I totally get it😂

[@markmaki4460]

At first i told myself the Norwegian controller sounded like he learned English from Canadians (lol), but now i wonder if some Canadian pronunciations are due to Norwegian immigrant influence (which occurred to me partly as one of my great grandfathers was one of many Norwegians who settled in Saskatchewan and other provinces early in last century).

[@Izmael1310]

Well clearly he wanted to ask qeustion but he did not know how to ask it under the stressful situation.

[@Republic3D]

@@markmaki4460 Yep tons of Norwegians in that area, as well as south of the border.

[@Normal_Boii]

December this year has been packed with air accidents...

[@NicolaW72]

Yes, and in a very scary way.

[@photovincent]

“can you confirm the negative?” “positive on the negative” (my brain said, though not the pilots…)

[@daviddanser8011]

Very calmly handles by crew and atc

[@jrf4234]

ATC voice seems like he is nervous!

[@swestuff]

Could be or it's just the Norwegian accent.

[@dotwallop544]

@@swestuff A mix I think! There was a lot going on, already a pan pan, he's also talking to the fire & rescue crew, and then the aircraft slid off the runway. Change of mindset in a matter of seconds!

[@elevat1on]

@@swestuff I am Norwegian. He is definitely nervous / anxious.

[@sixpackpilot]

I think it is mostly a side-effect of speaking Norwegian as first language...or maybe a bit chilly outside. .

[@imsvale]

Also Norwegian here. Agree he sounds shaken. I don't think he's seen much action of this nature at this small airport. ^^

[@blink882]

Pragmatism and professionalism on all sides, job well done by everyone.

[@paddyohenry6428]

5:55 Did he say "Right heading 310"?

[@VASAviation]

No

5:55 Vectoring for ramp? :) Unable!

[@jamiesuejeffery]

In the early part of the recording, it sounds like one of the pilots has an open microphone.

[@tech-test-break-fix]

big bang on takeoff is usually a blown main tire.

[@AeroGraphica]

" TWR, we are very sorry for the trouble, thank you for all the help, wish you a happy new year, seasons greetings " " No no , WE are sorry, we will aim to do better next time, all the best to you and family"

[@RogerMcjoggin]

So what caused the excursion if it appears that they maintained normal flight controls. The rudder is powered by two hydraulic systems, any issues with nose gear steering should default it to central position.

[@Izmael1310]

Anyone has some technical in-depth knowledge what could happen? WHy they could not control aircraft on the ground? To steer at high speed they use rudder, to steer at low speeds they use tiller for nose wheel. Do you think they lost hydralics of a rudder? Or they lost brakes or one of the brakes were jammed?

[@chrisschack9716]

Not in-depth, but the rudder is a primary flight control and they WOULD still have it. Nosewheel steering might have been disabled, and they DID veer to the right, into the wind.

[@EstorilEm]

Doesn’t make any sense to me, nose wheel steering is on A system, there’s an alternate nose wheel steering on B system. Rudder uses both primary systems and the third standby system. If they lost one of the primary systems, they would lose the thrust reverser deployment on that side. It’s definitely mentioned in the checklists, but in the chaos of things they may have missed it (or just forgot after touchdown and instinctively went full reverse on both engines.) Full TR on one side only would definitely pull a 737 off the runway. Also I’m not sure what the other engine would do if it was supposed to be full reverse but couldn’t deploy doors - I’m assuming it would just stay at idle thrust?

[@maniamuse1319]

It depends on which hydraulic system(s) were not working. The 737 has two main hydraulic systems (A and B) and a standby system. Not every function is controlled by every hydraulic system. Certain functions like nose wheel steering and normal braking are only controlled by one hydraulic system so it can lead to limited ground handling if that side of the hydraulic system is out of action.

[@mattmatt14]

There is obviously something that is missing and they will investigate on it… also from my side of view it is a pretty strange incident… but you know a slight human error especially in distress situation is pretty like to be happened. But we won’t know still everything will be figured out. Important thing is that everyone is safe. For all the rest there are the insurances companies that will not be happy :)

[@DanieljTAH]

I read in norwegian news that they think one of the tires exploded and pieces of the tire flew off and damaged hydraulic system etc.

[@GOLEMUK]

UPDATE on Jeju 737 SK fatal crash. ANOTHER Jeju airlines B737-800 experienced landing gear malfunction TODAY (30 Dec) and was forced to return after takeoff. SK Transport Ministry now preparing to announce special inspection of ALL (101) B737-800 aircraft operated by South Korean airlines. Source - Jen Moon journalist for DW News reporting from Muan.

[@SebastiaanStoop]

‪Any video on KL815 diverting back to Amsterdam due to hydraulic problems?‬

[@marlinweekley51]

Will be interesting to learn what the hydraulic problem was as I think those planes have three separate redundant systems 🤔 anyone know for sure?

[@pocalipse.things]

"I don't see anything abnormal", except maybe that Boeing airliner in the middle of the grass

[@HeliCarse72]

Good thing it was marginal weather.. otherwise they would have had to contend with flight students buzzing around. Also, people are happy there was no "wall" but should be aware there is a drop off at end of this runway.. same result

[@UserDefaultEurope]

Of all the aviation disasters this week, here is one where the public can rely on a comprehensive and non-corrupt investigation. The results will increase safety for everyone flying in these last Boeings, unless of course someone has an anti-aircraft wall/launcher at their runway.

[@Xtariz]

Where the Norwegian flight in Molde that almost ran into the sea? 19.Dec

[@VASAviation]

Hopefully safe by this time

[@Xtariz]

@@VASAviation Any coms from the DY 430? It's also a Boeing 737-800

[@andmos1001]

crazy week for the norwegian flight

[@AFG.1]

two b737’s one E190 and one Q400, all in the month of december

[@Karenonflute]

And the last three all seem to be hydraulic issues??? I wish we had ATC for the DeHavilland.

[@Karenonflute]

And my wish was granted even before I asked! Thank you, VASAviation

[@AFG.1]

@@Karenonflute Yeah, right….

[@AFG.1]

Also, i meant TWO Q400’s. There was an overrun incident with a Philippine Airlines Express Q400, runway excursion too…

[@merukusan]

Do you have the Jeju Air incident as well

[@How-ToHacks]

Like 3-4 Aviation incidents in past 3 days. What’s happening? Busy holidays season?

[@MrCamcross]

5:58 If that subtitle was from the AI you were advertising last video, It needs a lot more work. I dont think crashed planes need to readback headings...

[@VASAviation]

My videos are all hand edited, not AI. It was just a copy paste issue with that caption. Apologies.

[@valeriebumblebee7607]

​@@VASAviationNo need to apologize! It's a typo. You upload high quality videos shortly after the incident, sometimes several a day! Nobody expects perfection, because it's not possible. Thank you for keeping us informed all year and the great work you are doing.

[@MrCamcross]

@VASAviation no need to apologise, I understand how easy it is to make mistakes like that, especially under time pressure.

[@justethical280]

Well, no flying around christmas days for me. Seems to be a hazardous time....lol

[@Matty12333]

What's going on with the 737?

[@Bohemian-Rhapsody]

All of the American pilots wondering what PAN PAN PAN means. 😅😅😅😂😂

[@gottagowork]

American pilots don't know what the international urgency signal is?

[@secondskins-nl]

Nice Since I'm Dutch I was already downloading the ATC conversations and ran a little audio denoiser over them, worked well. Was just still looking for the actual pan pan call.

[@goaliemedic37]

That echoing PAN PAN PAN call sounded like someone speaking in tongues.

[@ARetiredPirate]

😂 so true

[@gottagowork]

Emergency signal "Mayday" and urgency signal "Pan pan" is usually repeated three times.

[@babygrrlpc5057]

I cannot imagine how difficult it is to have to learn English used mostly only for your job and how stressful it must be to ensure you’re using correct words during emergencies. These folks did a fantastic job, in my opinion. Well done. KLM still has the best livery 😊❤

[@trulybtd5396]

We learn english in general, not only for our jobs.

[@thomasgrabkowski8283]

Well they’re Dutch and most Dutch speak fluent English anyways

[@peterthegreat996]

It’s interesting they are speaking English because the French , Italians , and Japanese don’t . And the way the ATC is communicating is way more. ,ummmm relaxed then in the US.

[@TommyRaines]

Americans don't speak English

[@trulybtd5396]

@@peterthegreat996 you mean consise and to the point? And why would they not be speaking english? First of all they always speak English, and second it is a norwegian tower speaking to a dutch plane.

[@raymarshall6721]

Aviation uses English as the default language, other nations use their native language with native pilots but that can cause major issues in situational awareness in airspace when dealing with airline traffic. Frankly they need to just hold everyone to the standard.

[@trulybtd5396]

@raymarshall6721 norwegian atc uses english for norwegian planes.

[@isag.7468]

With all the modern technology, why radio signals and communications are so crap?

[@trulybtd5396]

@@isag.7468 it is better in the plane and tower. The recordings are made by random recievers

[@TheDutchDinooo]

A KLM Boeing ‘738’?

[@VASAviation]

Yes

[@strenne1]

Wann ist dieser vorfall ?😮

[@arjankleene]

Das war am 28.12.2024

[@AdorableAlphaUK]

5:52 HUH Tower says (KLM58K, Can you stop your engines?) the reply from KLM58K (Right heading 310, KLM58K)???????????????????????

[@Destroyer-20000]

Yeah that one is weird af.

[@nickdegroot2445]

Its no correct translation

[@VASAviation]

Wrong caption obviously.

[@artrandy]

Unfortunately, as far as civil aviation accidents are concerned, the year is ending like it begun..........

[@RachelF-i3h]

Bad week for the 738

[@ajayvnair3034]

What’s happening in aviation..!!

[@johnarnell4241]

Winter.

[@ultramagnushurts]

Winter and no real maintenance is being done.

[@jpzv_old]

​@@johnarnell4241 @ultramagnushurts I think he meant about the 737-800 in South Korea which crashed in a similar conditions (no landing gear and maybe with hydraulics issues)

[@ehmha3641]

Calm down

[@stevenaltaccount9476]

profit over people baby. In this case though, just winter. tech advancement aside flying a plane is still extremely difficult and accidents will happen.

[@Zan_YT]

Bro this is 5 crashes in a week. What is happening!?!

[@jeromeprins6164]

It didn't crash.

[@Zan_YT]

@jeromeprins6164 it's off the runway that's technically a crash.

[@ehmha3641]

​@Zan_YTnope

[@jeromeprins6164]

​@Zan_YTnope it's an excursion.

[@tilburg11]

Big bird strike or what?

[@craig7350]

So why did he drive off the runway?

[@Djekkie-gj7jz]

It is possible that the aircraft hit the grass with its right wheels and partially sank into it, causing it to turn to the right.

[@KolyanKolyanitch]

Hydraulics problem, it's possible they didn't have nose wheel steering.

[@Mooonsterman]

Weird to hear Norwegian dialect on this channel 😂

[@symulacjeMobile]

stop your engines?

[@ojjoooooo]

Why do almost all flight controllers sound like they are on beta blockers?

[@gcorriveau6864]

It is curious how the aircraft is lined up parallel to the taxiway. If he had lost directional control during the landing and gone off the side of the runway - it would usually not be at so much angle. A mystery to be solved. Thankfully no one was hurt so this was a highly successful outcome.

[@Djekkie-gj7jz]

It is possible that the aircraft hit the grass with its right wheels and partially sank into it, causing it to turn to the right.

[@mattmatt14]

For everyone saying it is a bad year for aviation … of course I share with everyone of you (I hope) big respect for all the victims and their families. But I continue to be sure that aviation is the safest means of transport possible, and year after year the data prove it. Unfortunately moving around with zero risk is not possible for now but I hope in the future it will become so.

[@NicolaW72]

It is really a scary way of finishing this year.

[@jayschafer1760]

As I always tell people who are afraid of flying, the most dangerous part of a commercial airline flight (on a plane with 30+ seats, and not in Africa or a war zone) is probably walking in the parking lot. The second most dangerous part is probably getting to/from the airport by car. The actual flight itself is insanely safe.

[@pal2011]

Waiting for Jeju Air video

[@sonnigundbelanglos]

Whats going on with this Boeing?

[@VASAviation]

What is going on?

[@Dilley_G45]

"Pompom pompom pompom 🎶 "

[@edwinmartin9120]

Another hydraulic?? failure on the runway??☠💀

[@HAPPY-SKYWALKER]

Why so many crash and accidents happens in this end of year...

[@NoWonderDragon]

So much more people traveling in December

[@AndreiTupolev]

Heavens, another one?

[@DunDun-e43]

It does seems that Holidays time are prone to accidents and aviation accident if we include last year's Japan airline crash. Maybe we also should look into it as a secondary avenue thing and have awarness

[@nickk6518]

You can't park there, mate!!!

[@hkr667]

Well apparently they can

[@piparalegal2019]

@hkr667 Since they needed to!

[@kevingraham3161]

Wonder how long it took you to come up with that boring drivel comment

[@rusty9959]

When it rains it pours 😢

[@reddyuda]

Nice

[@cbspock1701]

What is going on lately in the airline industry? Is this all poor maintenance

[@SDK-im8sl]

In the last six months: Aktau, Kazakhstan, E-190: Missile attack. Muan, S. Korea B-737: Bellied down way too far down the runway, overshot and hit wall at runway end instead of an EMAS or safety area. Landing gear did not extend, so maintenance could be a cause. Halifax, Canada, DHC-8: Landing gear collapse, so, yes, it could well be maintenance. Torp, Norway, B-737: Bang on takeoff, FOD or birds on runway, but maintenance could be a cause. Venhedo, Brazil, ATR-72: Probable icing. Bangkok, Thailand, CE-208: Cause not yet established. Antalia, Turkey, Su-S100: Engine fire on landing, FOD or birds on runway, but maintenance could be a cause. Vilius, Lithuania, B-737: Cause not yet formally established; pilot error is a leading candidate. Looks like a variety of causes, but 4 of 9 are possibly maintenance related.

[@Oyzatt]

@@SDK-im8sl i flown at least every year to my home country. 6 hour long haul flight. This makes me very nervous

[@habahabatsutsut2657]

Putin.

[@hugochan2821]

Worst plane to have hydraulic issue is b737. See what happen on the same day with jeju airlines b737.

[@DanFrederiksen]

A 737 by mere coincidence. Same as korean jeju

[@RobertMax-r3p]

737,800 seem to be having a rough patch. I think I give them a big miss for a while

[@MartinEkh]

is it just that i follow these topics more or does the 737 just have a lot of problems across all generations? on the other hand when i see a 737 in trouble i am not completely worried. when something happens to an a320 it seems more unusual and scary

[@shellyj7536]

Oddly enough when I was growing up the 737 was one of the best planes, even without all the new technology

[@raymarshall6721]

Airbus has just as many issues that spring up, they just aren't publicized as much nor are they prevalent in actual accidents right now. I remember when Airbus was in the spot Boeing is in now with public opinion (much like what happened to McDonnell Douglas) where people wouldn't want to get on one (and this was before KZbin and instant reporting). A320 into the trees at the airshow with fatalities because a fault in the fbw system that Airbus tried to cover up for over a year. A300 (think it was a 300 may have been a 310) that lost its entire vertical stabilizer shortly after 9/11 and crashed in NY. The A320 that has the emergency landing at LAX with the nose wheel turned 90 degrees and stuck in that position. Don't forget that contractor company everyone is attaching to Boeing who make parts (out of Kansas, can't remember their name) also supply parts to Airbus...

[@Xxxx-d4z]

CAMOTE PILOTS

[@fafileblond9202]

Serial law.

[@terriholliday8038]

Here is another one.

[@bardo0007]

Sounds like a very slow controller at Torp airport, maybe new or just very slow in the English language , they do not have a lot of traffic at this time of the day.

[@UnimatrixYoutube]

From what I've learned reading through the comments (which is always very educational to me), it's a small airport and he was probably manning the tower by himself so that's probably why.

[@trulybtd5396]

@@UnimatrixKZbin not only that, he is probably coordinating with civilian service providers for buses etc

[@Blast6926]

I hope US controllers get it together, we had SO MANY CLOSE CALLS IN 2024 for clearing two aircrafts take off at the same time

[@toadamine]

You're Fired!

[@isag.7468]

I firmly believe that less flights even if prices double should be reinstaured. Maybe Boeing would do their job of manufacturing aircrafts properly then. The pressure on airlines and airport staff is inhumane nowadays!

[@TheKayack1]

if it's Boein', i ain't goin' !

[@FoobarDesign]

I get the sentiment. but the 737s KLM uses for short hauls in Europe are very reliable and safe. I've flown on them as a passenger a lot for decades without any problem. Keep in mind there are dozens of flights with these planes every day the year round, so at some point something like this is going to happen.

[@pjotrtje0NL]

Tell me you don’t really know anything about aviation without telling me you don’t really know anything about aviation

[@augustomartins9516]

2024 a dark year for aviation

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

A dark year in all fields around the world

[@davidwebb4904]

@@iwaswrongabouteveryhthingjust wait until you find out about what they have planned for 2025

[@ehmha3641]

​@@iwaswrongabouteveryhthingcause and effect

[@JsausageandbunEaterWithoniOn]

@@davidwebb4904 No no… 😊

[@B1RD_DOG]

Accidents have gone down, you’re just paying attention now