Making So Much Money We Break BTD6

[@catastrophme8101]

Hbomb summoning his inner player 3 to make this video

[@Hbomb]

Haha. I'm always in p3 mode

[@FroztYcle4737]

@@Hbomb’welcome, to the Bloons TD 6 Player 3 suit. Have a very, safe, day.’

[@TrevorD19]

Well, player 3 took player 1,2, and 4s tiles

[@legthieff]

@@Hbomb I have to report this video for spam because you’re spam requesting for money in the co-op game.

[@GaviLavee-xe7wk]

No, no, NOOOO flashback to inner agent 3 @splatoonfans

[@XxguaxinimxX.]

Every monkey in the game: We have infinity money! Paragons: No, we don't 😠

[@Hbomb]

Lmao

[@cyrixr]

Lmao

[@mihaadmohtisham7172]

Lmao

[@JarrettSison]

Lmao

[@filipbukowski5975]

Lmao

[@trinityy-7]

two's complement is simpler if you think of it as the first bit has a place value of negative 2^31, instead of the complicated bit inverting process

[@x_540]

I was about to comment this

[@PotatoBTD6]

​ @x_540 Then you both are wrong... Just kidding, you only got wrong the exponent (it's 31), the general idea is ok.

[@trinityy-7]

@@PotatoBTD6 shit ima edit it

[@x_540]

@@PotatoBTD6 oh yea, I forgot it (the exponent) starts at zero not one

[@all-starsilver1835]

The explanation Hbomb gave is also not entirely correct, in order to get the two's complement for a number you don't just need to flip all the bits, you also need to add 1 at the end

[@Plague_Crow]

I heckin love 32-bit integer overflow

[@sunbleachedangel]

unsigned*

[@trinityy-7]

@@sunbleachedangel signed*. unsigned goes to 0 when going over ~4 billion

[@raffel08108]

@@sunbleachedangelA signed 32-bit integer is in the range -2147483648 to 2147483647 and an unsigned 32-bit integer is in the range 0 to 4294967295, meaning this is in fact a signed integer as already said

[@Xioverze]

​@@sunbleachedangelonto nothing

[@sunbleachedangel]

@@trinityy-7 i knew I'd mix them up

[@eggsygetrekt5655]

The funniest thing hbomb said was "print money faster than the us government" inflation goes hard

[@archangels3697]

fr tho

[@_sofishticated_]

Blud really became player -3

[@ILostMyMainLol]

I just realized my original comment said that btd 6's pc money limit was 9,223,372,036,854,775,807, but said that only some of them are like that, and others are 2,147,483,647. I think there is a 64-bit version of the game with that first number, and the 32-bit version with the second.

[@firebolt1104]

9,22 Quintillion money would be too insane for the game to handle though. That ludicrous amount would probably break the game even more than the 32-Bit integer limit 😂🤔

[@Barely_Edited]

@@firebolt1104I don’t see how the high number would break the game, if you’ve got the bits for the number you’re good

[@archie-fu7jl]

But using 64 bit version of the game doesnt mean that every single variable is 64 bit. Declared variables do take memory and require more complicated computations, even tho if the number itself its not big enough. Sure this wouldnt probably break the game, but BTD6 is already hella unoptimised game, so i dont think that using cash as 64 bit int is reasonable, especially when in normal runs you would never break through this barrier

[@amgooss]

I think you can actually make up to 1.8e308(centillion/infinite) which is where money absolutely breaks,it says you have INF but you cant buy anything

[@ILostMyMainLol]

KZbin broke my notifications for this, so I will just say a few things 1. I wasn't sure if the 64-bit version would increase the limit or not, and it MIGHT do it, but I don't have the game on pc to check 2. The game storing the number as 64-bit probably won't affect the frame rate that much if it won't need it in regular use, and only allocate it when it gets close to surpassing the 32-bit limit (I don't do any programming so if there is a programmer that can fact check this, please tell me what the correct thing you can do is) 3. The guy here who said that it can go to something in the centillions or to infinite, that is only in modding and not in the base game

[@chasethompson3958]

(24 seconds) US Government: "Is that a challenge"???

[@lomein22h]

you know you can just put 0:24

[@Tommy_plays_games]

Rizzler

[@Timnrulez]

@@Tommy_plays_gamesbro

[@cyanidelover299]

0:24

[@Hbomb]

I think they'd beat me

[@Captain_3489]

5:40 Any of ypu guys seen those druids make a tree with their projectiles when the BAD comes close to them??

[@Adam-mv4fw]

WE LEARNING COMPUTER SCIENCE WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ArmaanAdhikariNG]

My head hurts

[@Claydoyoyo]

@RomanKlayman-dz4bgfr

[@xomnionProgrammingAndChess]

@RomanKlayman-dz4bg unless we were being taught haskell or assembly

[@adammarkszobek655]

🤓

[@xomnionProgrammingAndChess]

@@adammarkszobek655 Oh shut up

[@invenblocker]

I had assumed the game would count money as a floating point number rather than an int, considering stuff like fractions of money from late round pops or Skimming in Half Cash. Surprised to see they actually use a 32-bit signed integer instead.

[@GreatFernicus]

I wonder if they have a separate value that tracks the decimal amount and then adds 1 to your money whenever the value goes above 1

[@lorrdy7640]

Using floating would be quite stupid

[@StepBaum]

Really cool video, especially the in depth explanation. You did a good job on it :)

[@Hbomb]

Thanks, I wasn't sure how in depth I should go!

[@StepBaum]

@@Hbomb np, keep up the good work :)

[@PandismLive]

I get that content creators don’t like using double money but if we’re just trying to see the maximum I don’t understand why not. Only really helps start the exponential farming a round or two earlier

[@H20ZTS]

Me: Afks for abit to eat lunch Player 3 while im gone:

[@Hbomb]

🤣

[@binarycat1237]

1:00 it's important to note that you can use more than 32 bits for integers, bloons just doesn't.

[@konradlorek3043]

I always think of Hbomb while pressing the H key to place banana farms

[@Hbomb]

[@joeflemo64]

@@Hbomb why don’t you change the accessibility in game to reduce lag

[@Minty7602]

3 months late but projectile size only helps bit rate, they don’t reduce lag

[@flameninja5016]

@@joeflemo64 what he said. what lags is the calcs in the bg for pops

[@bung_us7207]

ohhh!! so this is why player 3 never donates! the integer limit doesn’t let him

[@kendlemintjed7571]

another way to think about two's compliment is that the most significant bit, instead of representing 2^31 like normal, represents -2^31 making 10...0 represent 1×-2^31 + 0×2^30 + ... + 0×2^0 ≈ -2×10^9

[@Capybara_Vidz]

Tewtiy! Take notes on this! NO MODS😂

[@quorrexnoway9127]

Interesting video. Also love the 'Cult of the Lamb'-Music :D Maybe as a tipp for such videos: go to options then 'accessibility' and scale the FX all the way down. That way it won't melt your computer (or your eyes) and won't slow down as much.

[@Aaxolotl.]

even with infinite money, the paragons are still too expensive :sob:

[@Vortexbecauseyes]

Even the 0-0-0 Dart Monkey

[@Alifhamzyahnuhgroho]

Hbomb regularly realesing math itself within its brain

[@bluefake_or_smt]

1:08 what you described is the representation of negative numbers using sign bits. Integers in programming use so called two complements, where the most significant bit (first on left) is turned negative (in case of int32: from 2^32 to -(2^32)). The reason for this it that addition with two compliment numbers works out of the box like it would with only positive numbers, while you need much more complicated logic for sign bits. Sign bits also waste some space because you have both 0 and -0

[@TrevorD19]

Thanks for reaching the integer limit like I suggested. :)

[@SomeRand0mNerd]

Thank you “HBall” for making so much money that you actually go into debt.

[@cat-of-the-internet]

“print money faster than the us government” 💀💀

[@3dchomper]

7:25 , i tried this myself with mods and found out that if you push the paragon sloder backwards (pretty sure , it happend to me in game) il lets you put the negative amount, and basically guarantees a degree 100 paragon

[@Rehehehhehehe-x1t]

TO MUCH INFLATION YOU JUST HAVE REVIVED 8916725738918263666543573919273 DDTS

[@Shork_fn]

"Lets try to beat phayze without farming" my friend:

[@IOSALive]

Hbomb, I really enjoyed watching this, so I hit the like button!

[@all-starsilver1835]

It's so strange that the money doesn't keep increasing from the negatives. You'd think gaining more money would increase the value of the lower bits, and that would make the number less negative, and yet it stays identical

[@drhofstadter]

PLEASE UPLOAD MORE VIDEOS, YOU’RE LITERALLY MY FAVE BTD KZbinR

[@Hbomb]

I'm trying

[@Vadim_213]

I love seeing how when enemies go close to pools, MILLIONS of projectiles attack them

[@socky85]

I did this with the ascended upgrades mod and with one banana farm I got to the integer limit and with the legend of the night I made it to round 1300

[@lalthlana2114]

Tewtiy watching this him like are you serious 😂😂

[@syndere6755]

Peak Player 3 gameplay is breaking the money counter. We funding High Finance with this one

[@baconwhopper]

0:28 NAW THE WAY HE CONFIDENTALLY SAID THAT GOT ME ROLLING

[@garfuffleduffle]

Man I bet it would have been nice for him to have made this video after they made multiple jungles bounty instantly use their ability together

[@Defnder_5]

"Print money faster that the us government" 💀💀💀

[@random_life287]

At the game over pop-up it says that you made 0ver 2.162 billion, so that pop-up i guess doesnt stop at 2,147,483,648. Maybe next tume see how much while seeing how far you can go then when you get out see how much you actually made.

[@BB-8Pop]

H-bomb is my new maths teacher 😅

[@daniellemcrae9996]

I was here at the 11th second of the video being uploaded

[@bedouinbullock1117]

I would kinda want to see the challenge without a glitch and see how much you can get in a regular game

[@greatnwgutters8655]

Why does this feel like a matpat episode

[@360NoSigma]

My dude making more money than in sandbox

[@samrajsingh2996]

hbomb turning into a god for a second

[@snaifhassnan6348]

1:04 Hbomb educational break?

[@Hbomb]

Haha. Had to let my Computer Engineering side out

[@unknownname3703]

YOO COMPUTER ENGINEERS UNITE

[@EllieFurCAN]

Player 3 taking notes right now

[@placeholder-j3i]

this guy is a better math teacher then my professors

[@pixelartkid7965]

Correction: That starting explanation was of signed integers. Unsigned integers swap out the first bit for another magnitude bit. Each bit is a power of 2 from 2^(0) to 2^(X).

[@Ulmenkind]

You probably won’t see this comment anymore, but a year ago was another glitch which gave you over 100^000000 with a thrive power just in round 2 in co-op mode. This is also how I got a way too high number of gifted money in co-op on my btd6 profile 😂

[@Rink-fu4vk]

Hbomb ready to make this: *informs into p3*

[@RyanNuno]

Average Sabre moment be like:

[@Thebiggestgordon]

I can't wait for this to become a speedrun category lol

[@Gamerrug]

Hbomb giving us a math lesson for no damn reason

[@JiajieWei-jg4hc]

7:57 … i think that’s a fake one because if everything adds up, there are 100.1% of people watching

[@赤烽火]

Rounding exists

[@Jasmine__135]

glad i finally got an answer to this

[@FestiveTPosingGalvanaAPB]

That number is a very oddly specific number 0:46

[@papplejuicetv]

it’s because of how 32-bit integer overflow works. Because the number of available options for the value hinges on binary, the maximum value is a power of 2. go over it and you’re wrapped around!

[@SkyyySi]

It's because 2^31 = 2147483648. The money is stored as a 32-bit signed integer, meaning that 31 bits are used for the actual value, with the final bit indicating whether it is positive or negative.

[@trinityy-7]

put 2^31-1 into a calculator

[@DragonTheOneDZA]

It's 2^32 - 1

[@SkyyySi]

@@DragonTheOneDZA It's actually 2^(32 - 1) but yes

[@rickypro4538]

Imagine putting all of the paragons on the same pool so you destroy absolutely anything

[@DragonfruitTheRainwing]

Hbomb I hear the cult of the lamb music it can never be hidden from me I always catch it

[@BananaBread_animalVr]

Bro, he’s summoning his inner player five that’s crazy

[@beartheperson]

The cult of the lamb music is very fitting

[@I_love_space.]

“Print money faster than the US government” and this is why this man is a btd6 youtuber.

[@JerryPotter500]

explains the reason behind the number for max cash in OSRS ty

[@AidanWR]

It's always interesting if games cap you at max or just don't expect you to get to max and let it overflow

[@Hbomb]

I agree. I don't blame NK for thinking no one would hit 2 billion dollars

[@bluenightrblx]

"...to print money faster than the us government" 💀

[@Carsen200]

He ain’t wrong

[@Grumbly-Grumble]

👍🏿

[@Daniel_Shao]

Mobile players trying this:

[@Justacorg1]

???

[@Not_SylviaFoxPlayz]

I Would but I don't wanna be flagged 😅

[@Theteir5bananafarm]

Don’t worry u only get flagged for hacking

[@LuxEternis]

@@Theteir5bananafarmand that’s wrong. You can get flagged for manually transporting (altho, why would you?), you can get flagged for using mods (even stuff that doesn’t affect gameplay like 8x speed) and you can get flagged for using a pirated client for the game. This shouldn’t ban you, but if you want to be extra careful, don’t do gamebreaking glitches like this 😅

[@Wonder368]

O_O

[@SemperSmirk]

this guy deserves way more subs then tewity

[@jackheart4814]

“I need to make 2 billion total and I have only ever made 3 billion. We need to double it!”

[@t0mda30]

i finally understand 2's compliment

[@jamesgamble4551]

Bro ya’lls times are insane. Ya’ll get to round 200 in like 30 minutes, but it took me 1 hour 11 minutes to get to round 276 with all paragons major farms and a VTSG and BMA (Bloon Master Alch)

[@SoundwaveDevastation]

“Its called the pool stacking glitch and we are gonna use it to print money faster than the US government.”

[@Benary-1]

2,147,483,647 is only the integer limit for java, other coding languages can and do have different limits.

[@FestVors]

Bloons not a java game Its limit for 32 bits

[@Benary-1]

Yes but for speed they use the same amount of bits as java. My point was just that 2,147,483,647 is only the integer limit for some languages, not all.

[@Benary-1]

They being NK.

[@T-P-M_405]

0:25 that caught me off guard

[@tupacsleftnut4995]

even if the US gov could have a pool of infinite monkeys that give them $2B, it still wouldn’t come close to paying off how much they owe in debt💀

[@RandomBloonStuff]

I thought that there would be no way to purchase anything since you have negative money, but it turns out you actually can place anything lol

[@Galaxxymeeps]

chicken pet:

[@Greenmonkegtag]

Monkey village monkey

[@AidenDrage-zs1lj]

Tewtiy found this out like 20 years ago

[@speev9550]

Shoutout to the thumbnail 👏🏼👏🏼

[@Matthew-e8y]

If you get 2.1 billion and then sell everything you can actually get it back into positive numbers

[@shibalienelite5247]

get as many tier 5 banana farms in a co op, with a bunch of farmers, then beg for money, easy way.

[@Benni_aka_Yoshi]

Faster than the US Government prints money 😂

[@Mycatsveaissocute]

I once tried to fix the issue and be a god dam programming god but I only re invented the thing

[@276З]

Player 3 be like:

[@patrasche2672]

video idea can you beat chimps with only tier 3 towers

[@crazybloon]

Probably

[@crazybloon]

Cross path allowed?

[@leonardhuynh6853]

An update on the glitch. It not as op now since it only give 10000 max but we can try to upgrade banana farm to brf and spam jungle bounty to give tons of money still

[@leonardhuynh6853]

And if possible boat farming as well

[@Asidders]

NinjaKiwi: Pls don't fix this

[@ElisAW]

"To print money faster than the US Government."

[@raffel08108]

Uhm ackchyually to be more specific it's a 32-bit signed integer 🤓☝

[@Hbomb]

Very true. lol

[@elreturner1227]

I hope ninja kiwi never fixes this bug

[@vladrusu1421]

if u account for the negative flip the most amount of money is -1

[@sandwich-plays]

Imagine this with soul bind 😂😂😂

[@itzjustkris7964]

Is the integer limit thing like a limit on computers? I don’t get why they can’t just make the number go on forever

[@TheGlaiveDominatrus]

That's one way to get my contribution to a project

[@LOL767LOL_gaming]

The money bugs when you reach the max. As far as I know this is not going to be patched as you can get it sometimes and not all the time.

[@lool8421]

there's nothing special in paragon slider being maxed out at just a few millions the slider is just a way to gain paragon power from money spent on towers without requiring you to spam those towers, but the slider has 95% efficiency and caps out at as much money as it would take you to get max paragon power for money spent without counting already placed towers so if you have to spend let's say 2.1m on max slider and you already spent 200k on towers, you actually have to spend 2m on towers (because the slider isn't fully efficient) and since you already got 200k in towers, putting more than 1.85m into the slider is just a waste of money since anything above is just overflow power which gets voided

[@germangamingbrothers.8191]

I got a question Hbom. Which monkey is the best one for Bloonarius?

[@Hbomb]

Probably the Goliath Doomship

[@germangamingbrothers.8191]

Thanks

[@AdvikVerma-zg4zz]

So it's the best paragon to spend 60 rounds getting the 60 totems

[@melonboi7330]

The *display value* is 4 bytes, you're still making money though.

[@TheDroneSquad-ze6jh]

Bro broke the integer limit

[@mr_pigman1013]

Breaking bloons

[@los-lobos]

Should’ve used Geraldo for rejuvenate potion