HBX 2995a, 2996a, 2997a Fastest 3s Direct Fit LIPO?A Real Kick in the Pants for this Haiboxing Truck

[@whitmanft]

FYI.. the reason I got into rc cars was that I have 3 Grandsons, 5 and 6 yrs of age..I actually flew planes 20+ years ago but this little guys love rc cars..I'm retired and boy do these boys keep me feeling young again!! We're having a blast w/ the cars and I'm in the process of building a track for them (myself included!)anyhow thx for all the info Brian I've gotten quiet a bit info on you tube but your vids and information has been the best..im sure ill have more to ask of you ..!👍

[@BriansRCStuff]

That is awesome! I had an RC plane but I’m embarrassed to even show my video when I converted it to brushless and let’s just say it did not make it very far. :-) Video is on my Chanel! You are welcome. Thank you for the kind words. That is awesome. You’re gonna have a track! Sounds like a lot of fun. That HBX is going to fly… Literally.

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

Your right. For regular bashing around and normal play, this thing’s got plenty!

[@BriansRCStuff]

100%

[@MikeGray-ct6hb]

Bro you are very quickly becoming one of my favorite channels to watch. U got sum pretty dam cool content goin on man keep it up. Can't wait to see wut your Bandit is gonna do next

[@BriansRCStuff]

Thanks man, I really appreciate it! Comments like this make all the work editing videos worth it! I am really excited about that new ESC I got with the telemetry data! Great stuff! I am going to try to take it out this evening when the wind dies down. I have a beast of a 2s I am going to run and if conditions work out, I am going to do a pull in my strongest 3s LIPO! No tailwind today so I am curious what kind of speed I will see.

[@MikeGray-ct6hb]

@@BriansRCStuff Good luck brother! If u stick your tongue out just rite I bet u hit 101 lol.

[@BriansRCStuff]

@@MikeGray-ct6hb Thanks! You are the first to hear it... video will be out in a couple of days as I got a lot of content this afternoon.... but 102 mph!!! I can't recall if my tongue was out! : )

[@MikeGray-ct6hb]

@@BriansRCStuff haha!! Dude that is awesome!! Hell yea!! That is freaking impressive as hell man congrats!!

[@LyroLife]

That’s impressive

[@IowaBudgetRCBashers]

I love those batteries. I got 57mph out of my speed car with those tiny guys, and with the 1.5:1 gearing it kept burning up spur gears. Still looking for another option because I know I’ve got more in it on 3s

[@BriansRCStuff]

Oh you have a lot more left in it! It is amazing the little Urgenex LIPOs did as good as they did! I wish we were closer and could meet up. I would unload a fast 3s in you! Were you able to get down stronger spurs for it?

[@whitmanft]

im very pleased w/ the King Val 540 brushless 3300 motor..it goes fast enough and gets long run times w/ any 2s or the 3s battery(Urgenex 2200)and like I stated earlier, it does get that hot..its hard for it get hot enough for the themal fan to kick on...GREAT!!

[@whitmanft]

it DOES NOTget that hot..sry

[@BriansRCStuff]

@@whitmanft sounds like a great setup! What fan are you running?

[@whitmanft]

@@BriansRCStuff RC Motor Fan Radiator Aluminum Heat Sink Twin Cooling Fans Thermal Sensor for 1/10 RC Car 540/550 off Amazon..i tried to pst the link from Amazon but it wont paste..?

[@BriansRCStuff]

@@whitmanft thanks!

[@Hungrybird474]

I agree 100% , short of speed runs in a large parking lot , 40 mph is plenty fast , low 30 s even but it’s nice to have that extra power . One thing is for sure , the throttle rarely gets floored driving normally . 😂

[@Hungrybird474]

I almost got that pup after using an HBX 16980SA . It’s good as it comes with 2 s and 3s is an uncontrollable beast for inexperienced drivers . The smaller ones take some practice to get the steering and throttle down at high speeds so this larger version should have better handling based in size ? Thanks for sharing . HBX will have their own 3s batteries for the 16 size . I’m using a zee 50c 2200mAh , it fits , she rips . The chassis could use a steel plate underneath for durability imo .

[@BriansRCStuff]

I have a modified 16890A that goes well over 50 mph and it is a HANDFULL. Yes, it is tricky to drive at speed and the 2997A is somewhat better (but far from good). When I was doing 60+ mph runs it was all over the place but it was fun as hell trying to control it! I have some great videos running it and hitting myself (and some near misses too lol). I didn't know HBX had 3s LIPOs. I bet the Zeee is at least as good and there are even higher performance ones out there for sure. I have 850 mAh 3s LIPOs (Tattu and LiperiAir) that perform as well as a 2,200 Ovonic in my 16890A (34 mph or so). If they high performance LIPOs were 2,200, they would no doubt be hitting more like 36 or 37. In my 2997A my slower 2,200 3s LIPOs hit low 40s and my fastest one (LiperiAir) hit 46 mph (and 47 on a different ESC)! I would love to see your 16890SA run!

[@whitmanft]

why cant you use different pinion gears 15T, 17T..ect...?

[@BriansRCStuff]

The mount only allows for two options… There’s no slider or anything to adjust. 🙂‍↕️

[@whitmanft]

@@BriansRCStuff any way to use the different pinion sizes?

[@whitmanft]

The 17 T seemed to line up good...?

[@BriansRCStuff]

@@whitmanft I believe if you flip the motor mount you can also run a 14t in addition to the stock 16t. Some people have said you can drill a slider hole in the motor mount and fit a few different options but that sounds pretty ghetto… I have not tried that.

[@BriansRCStuff]

@@whitmanft is that a question or a statement?😂 I have never tried, but I would be cautious because if it fits well for the 16 T, it should not also fit well for the 17. The mesh might be a little tight, but I can’t say for sure what you’re seeing. 😎

[@Androidnoobz420]

How fast did it go with the toyo tires proxes

[@BriansRCStuff]

@@Androidnoobz420 is that the stock tires? I had the stock tires into the low 60s but they ballooned too much to go faster.

[@PhantomShinobi]

Hey man, you got two motors listed as recommended for the 2997A, I think you had it linked on another video. Which one is the best motor to get? 3650-5400kv or 3665-2700kv? Thanks again for all the info on this RC!

[@BriansRCStuff]

Sorry about that. I used the 5400 and that works well on 2S and 3S is OK but you have to monitor the motor temperature because it can get pretty hot. Forget about 4s.😂 The 2700kv is too low (the stock motor is 3800kv so I would at least go into the 4000s but 5400 is pretty crazy if you are careful. On another note, I got the truck nearly as fast using two of the stock 2S batteries in series as I did three with the 5400 KV motor.

[@PhantomShinobi]

@@BriansRCStuff Thanks for the input, I need to order the motor and ESC, but before all that… I need a battery charger, this car came with some lame chargers. lol

[@BriansRCStuff]

@@PhantomShinobi you could get a connector to run the stock LIPOs in series and see how you like that if you want to save some cash. It will go 60 mph with the connector and a 4s capable ESC.😎. My ESC was like $40.

[@BriansRCStuff]

@@PhantomShinobi for $40 this is a solid charger. I did a review video on it. www.amazon.com/Ovonic-Mate1-Battery-Charger-100W/dp/B0B11S35B3/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2QKVOXAOR38AQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ZWSZHUBZclvXPyKqjJTyV9x5Rhh0P-M5PM7SpdP1hEh5xxqeJo01fUgBSoS8Fz_2TbdWcG_sUkVwtMPDZitORCAUCnaChwGbAbwpH7zELHc7r9pTT2xAWLaplh2XnHo1zkqUOygoFdcq_IEVUNBWZjUywtjBYttvFfoMk1rIOF4GbvFk3R8Py-3FWawtgZczUUK8GTqa-d3HrN3ArJcDTA.fgJBWhesj_oK55W1ntrHO9PhQoBG0lrxkRBkC3MMbs4&dib_tag=se&keywords=ovonic+charger&qid=1714770409&sprefix=ovonic+charger%2Caps%2C98&sr=8-4 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaK8mmCclK2Cjsksi=Jwcse5NACPnRJhUd

[@PhantomShinobi]

@@BriansRCStuff I remember seeing your video about running them two batteries together so I did order the cable. Don’t have the ESC yet so I’m waiting on that. Thanks for the charger recommendation! Do you think the isdt 608ac would be better? That’s the one I was gonna get. $20 more though.

[@PhantomShinobi]

One quick last question! I’m noticing a lot of damage under my truck, is there any type of third party protective plate I can use for this truck?

[@BriansRCStuff]

I haven’t seen one but I am not sure. I would check out the Facebook HBX group! 😎

[@PhantomShinobi]

@@BriansRCStuff Oh ok man, thanks a lot for all the help!

[@whitmanft]

i recently purchased the HXB 2995 ...it runs 18 mph w/ stock 550 motor and 1600 2s battery..so by switching to 2200 3s battery it would run 40+ mph..? sounds great..thx again for info

[@BriansRCStuff]

Sorry, no.😞 If you could adjust the gearing you might be able to get it to give 40 but that is not an option. As a result, you need a faster spinning motor to get those speeds. The 2997a has a brushless system capable of those speeds on 3S. If you try that on your motor it will quickly become a paper weight.

[@BriansRCStuff]

For around $50 you could get a nice setup that would do 40+ mph. If you want any more info, please let me know. Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! $12.46 | ZTW Beast SL 50A/60A ESC G2 Waterproof 2-3S with 6V/3A BEC 32-Bit Brushless Speed Controller for 1/10 RC Car RTR Truck Buggy a.aliexpress.com/_mLenINC

[@whitmanft]

​@@BriansRCStuff So the xteam 3650 brushless motor ..would that work w/ the 2995..and what about that w/ 2s or 3s?

[@BriansRCStuff]

@@whitmanft 36 in 3650 is the width in mm and 50 is the length. A 550 motor (usually used to described a brushed motor) is 36 mm in width and probably about 60mm long (maybe longer, you could measure to confirm). A 540 (usually used to described a brushed motor) is also 36mm in width but about 50 mm long. The 50 in 3650 is the length. So yes, a 3650 will fit in a truck that has a 550 motor. You could even fit a 3660 in there but I wouldn't as it will have a ton of torque (too much, even a 3650 will have a hell of a lot of torque and brushless motors make way more torque/power than brushed motors). Not to muddy the waters but you could consider a F540 motor (this is a brushless motor that is only 28mm internally but the outside diameter is 36mm and is the size motor that comes in the 2997A. The length of a F540 is 60mm. A F540 will have less torque than a 3650 motor and still have plenty of torque for your truck (it will not be as hard on the drivetrain as a motor with more torque). So a F540 may actually be a great way to go. The next thing you should consider is the kv rating of the motor. The higher the kv, the faster the motor spins but the more heat it will generate. The 2997a comes with a 3800kv motor which is a good speed for running on 2s and 3s and even 4s for a few quick speedruns (I got my 2997A up to 60 mph on the stock motor running the 2 stock 2s LIPOs in series). You could get a higher kv motor (I was running a 3650 5400kv in mine for a while and it was spicy) but not a good setup for 4s as it will spin too fast (mine failed violently as it got really freaking hot after a few 65 mph passes back to back). This setup is good for 60 mph on 3s but you need a 120A ESC for this setup as it draws a lot of amps! I have like 20 videos of my 2997a with various motors in it and it has gone as fast as 65 mph. If you ultimate goal is a good cheap setup that can go 40 mph on 3s, a F540 around 3500kv and a 50 or 60 amp ESC would be a great setup. If you want to go crazy, you could go with a more powerful motor and a 120A ESC.

[@BriansRCStuff]

@@whitmanft This could be a great cheap setup that should have a ESC that fits in the stock location (check measurements to make sure) and be able to get up to at least mid and maybe high 40s on 3s (you may need a cooling fan as it is a 4370 which is a pretty quick spinning motor but not crazy). While the 4370 may not overheat... if you want to have a combo that is less likely to overheat, get a motor around 3500 or 3800kv (the 2997a comes with a 3800kv F540 even though it says it is a 3650..... they list the wrong motor in the specs) and I don't think it will ever get crazy hot on 3s.

[@whitmanft]

Hobby Fans Waterproof S3650 3500KV Brushless Motor 3.175mm Shaft with Upgrade 60A ESC Electric Speed Controller Combo Set and Heatsink for 1/10 RC Car Truck ..this be good?

[@whitmanft]

off amazon

[@BriansRCStuff]

On paper that sounds like it would work well. It would probably be good for nearly 40 mph on 3S and not get too hot. It probably will not fit in the stock ESC location. How much is it?

[@BriansRCStuff]

@@whitmanft I’ve never used that brand so I am not sure how reliable it is but on paper it would work

[@whitmanft]

@@BriansRCStuff $53.99 for the kit

[@whitmanft]

received the brushed motor and esc today..what about the pinion gear ...use the stock one i have ..(how to remove ?)or what gear should I need?

[@franciscovazquez4589]

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