I didn't either until I got a set. It too me a minute to figure out how to mount them lol... seems like it should be obvious but it wasn't to me at first.

No drilling with the wheels/tires I ran (Choons). Just make sure you use thread locker on all threads and you should be good to go. I have a video on a different set (with not offset) on how to install them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/anumiGZ5eMimsLs

@@BriansRCStuff right on thanks buddy. As always, I appreciate the knowledge. You and Britt have got the best channels on KZbin as far as I'm concerned. Always look forward to your upload buddy

Thank you!

Thank you! The thing is a ripper!!! I hope to get 64-65 mph next time out running a larger LIPO.

lol, how did it catch on fire? A crash or just pulling a crazy amount of amps?

@@BriansRCStuff carbon fiber frame cut into the leads.

@@ayitsyaboi 😳

Yes I did. Was it you that told me to? I was worried after a viewer said that I should run them so I added them (after drilling them out).

@@roadstar499 the thunder is night and day better than the 2997 a at 50 miles an hour. much more stable. It’s pretty much better and every way, except I worry about its durability.

@@roadstar499 absolutely cards are the way to go! But… At least it’s doable without one 😎

Do you have a link to it?

Its on Amazon with all the other laegendary...watched reviews i think its same car just truggy body..many you tube reviews also..

@@roadstar499 is it a 50a ESC and come with a 2s 5000 mah LIPO?

Well, I’m glad she is home! What would you want to do to it?

@@BriansRCStuff wheel spacers to make it more stable ' different tires and maybe a clear body so that I can paint it the way I want to make it like no other looks ! But at this time I can't afford and of it ! 😢

@@timmy4539 If you search up on Ali Express, you can get new customer deals. They have hex extenders for 99cents shipped! You probably only want 15mm extenders on that little truck. 4pcs Aluminum RC Car 12mm Hex Wheel Hub Drive Adaptor 15/20/25mm Extension Combiner Coupler for 1/10 RC Crawler Axial SCX10 D90 You can get banned if you do it too many times but I have used many different email addresses and got the new customer deal over and over again to my same address. You could find a set of tires this way too!

@BriansRCStuff lol you're sneaky, my friend !!

@@timmy4539 I am on a pretty tight budget too! My channel helps support my hobby. Just remember to use thread locker. : )

You could but I would go with a larger LIPO. A 1,500 mAh is really undersized for the Thunder. Though, the Thunder's motor gets hot pretty quickly on 3s so you will likely have to let it cool down every 5 min or so... so a small LIPO wouldn't a major handicap as you could just change it when it is cooling (a cooling fan and heat sink is a good idea to minimize the heat). If you want a great LIPO, I would get this one. a.co/d/hay2iXT It is on sale for $37 which is a great price for such a high performance LIPO. It does have a EC5 plug on it though so if you can't solder/don't have someone to do it for you, that could be an issue.

I thank you for this information it’s really helpful iam new to this hobby and I don’t really know that much but iam trying to learn this stuff , and I don’t know anyone that can solder , I’m happy with it out the box just want it a little faster that’s it , just bought this to have fun you know . So I’m guessing mah means for like the time it lasts and the higher the of number with C is faster right ?

The Arrma? Nice!

That sounds really odd. I am glad nothing bad happened. I am sorry I don't have a good idea as to what happened but I would charge it up again when you can be next to it as it is charging and see what happens. If it charges up normally, might as well try it out and see how it run.

@@BriansRCStuff Yeah, that's my plan, but it's a little spooky how basically nobody tested what happens at these voltages XD

@@STPromosMusic I agree!

I think it helps for sure.... and this 60A ESC never seems to run hot with this fairly light car.... it just gets up and goes! Smooth and fast... love it!

@@BriansRCStuff Awesome!

Up on Ali Express they have a metal on for the MJX 1/16th scale truck that might fit and it is less that $10. But yeah, modifying the stock one can work. It is a bit tedious to do it.... but it worked well for me in the end! Yeah, turning down the punch is nice.... my MJX (clone) is really punchy and it makes it hard to drive. Worse than that is the fact it does not have dual rate and the steering is a challenge. Thank you man, I was so glad my effort wasn't wasted and it ran so good!

@@dcrc_adventures that is really fast! These are smaller than what you’re currently running right? Daddy, I like you, you had the 18t pinion, right? What LIPO are you running?

I think the pinion was 17t. Batteries are 2x ZopPower 1200mah 100c 3s Lipos run in parallel. Tyres are 1/10 buggy, and balloon like hell.

Awesome, great result, and on those Tyres!

Are the Zeee LIPOs really thin? Do you fit them in the stock LIPO tray or do you mount them on the chassis rail? I am going to try a 1,500 mAh CNHL next time but it doesn't fit very well (should be fast AF though).

@BriansRCStuff they are slightly longer than standard, so I have trimmed the servo mount and removed the rib in the chassis so they sit flat one on top of the other. I did run with one battery but found the increase in speed switching to the taller tyres was not as expected until the second battery was added.

Thanks man! Good to see you around! Wait until you see the video I get out within the next day… My 16th scale went even quicker !😮

@@BriansRCStuff I'll be getting back to my rc world soon. Have lots going on at the moment.

@@nwirc looking forward to it!

I appreciate your concern and you are not wrong that the motor will be stressed. Yes, its life may be short lived. That being said, your math is way off as you are forgetting to take into account 2 important factors. First is voltage sag. Running a spicy setup like this on a small 4s LIPO will mean a lot of voltage sag. The voltage of the LIPO will dip to around 3.5v per cell during a speedrun. 3.5 x 4 = 14V. 14 x 4,400 = 61,600 rpm. Now, that is faster than the motor would like to spin, but during a speedrun you are only at max rpm for a few seconds (about 5). But, there is a another factor you are not considering. Under load, the rpm will be lower than when you simply assume that the motor will spin at its full 4,400kv rating like it would not mounted in a car. Factor in the load on the motor, the rpm will be at roughly 50,000 rpms. I have tested MANY LIPOs on my channel and have an ESC with full telemetry data and have seen this over and over again. Also, I have run several budget 4s motors that are rated around 4,350 to 4,600kv on 4s for speedruns. Provided you only do 1 run at a time and let the motor cool down after each run, they have been fine after many 4s pulls. So again, while the motor would be stressed and it is not ideal, and the motor life will likely be shortened, it would not be spinning anywhere near 74,000 rpms and spinning near or even above 50,000 rpms does not mean the motor is going to "shatter into pieces".

@@BriansRCStuff thanks

It is a fun rig! I got mine up to 75 mph but is impossible to drive with the tires I am running. I managed a bit over 60 mph with the stock tires but is was scary lol. The stock motor has so much potential!

@@BriansRCStuff yeah, that's why I ended up going with it. From what I've gathered from your videos it's a good foundation to get back into the hobby with. Ain't no way I'd be keeping that thing on the road let alone straight at 60 lmao.

@@ayitsyaboi yeah, it is happiest 45 mph and below. I think you will find it pretty durable and it is a solid truck overall at the price for sure. I just found what is a better deal in the Laegendary Thunder.... it is cheaper, handles way better at speed, is easier to make fast, and 1/10th scale..... BUT.... it doesn't appear to be nearly as durable. I think it will be good for on road and light off road duty but nothing too crazy. It is worth checking out if you want a cheap 1/10th scale!

Thank you! Yeah, if you feel another similar video would be good for your channel have at it. It is tedious and not intuitive programming it for sure. I was running mine today again and 50% brake force is about perfect with the tall gearing I am running. With the stock gearing it may still be a little strong but much more manageable I would think.... it is just stupid strong on the stock 75% setting. You are most welcome and good luck! Thank you for the kind words. I would like to hear how you end up setting yours up.

Thank you! I know I will be revisiting this video when I forgot how to program it!

Yeah, the brakes are so much better on 50%. I know I will be revisiting the video in the future because no doubt I will forget how to do it lol

It really is! A lot of fun. I took out my 1/16th scale HBX truck today and it was even quicker and way more stable. I loved it!!! Just uploaded a video on it.

Thanks for taking the time to leave this comment, I appreciate it! I will be watching it again when I forget how to program that ESC (though it is coming out and a 150A 2s-6s ESC is going in. : )

@@BriansRCStuff dirty! Can't wait to see those uploads!!!

They are so bad! The first time I drove it on 3s I smashed the car on its roof! Just stupid! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!

@@BriansRCStuff I just changed my esc settings. Thanks for the info

@@MattysRCWorld happy it helped!

Those are sweet looking road wheels you installed...😊

@@roadstar499 Choons! 🤣

Thank you for the tips! It seems like a lot of folks really like the Red and Tacky!

@@BriansRCStuff no problem bro, another cool thing about that stuff is it doesn't stink like that gear oil smell that lots of greases have. Keep the amazing videos coming man, you do a great job.

For sure! I can't wait to shoehorn it into my HBX 16890A and get it a few mph faster (I think anyway).

Thanks!

Thank you! Yeah, I’m right with you! They are really hard to drive sometimes but a lot of fun and it’s nice to not need a giant stretch of payment to run them like you do with going 100+ miles an hour. Budget RC speed runs are fun for sure!

Thank you! My 2nd newest video had what the look like now in the intro.

@@eliflynn7282 🤣 did you see Amazon sells a three pack for $8. At least they did like a month ago when I ordered them. They might still still.

Here is where you can pick up a set on Amazon! Share Goo Hex Drivers: a.co/d/fw5w1JA

I am sure it will be happier on 2s long term. I turned the punch down on mine so it should be happier on 3s that it would have been otherwise but the drivetrain does not appear exactly overengineered to me so I am going to have to be cautious when doing 4s speedruns! Right out of the box with just a pinion change it went 58 mph (different/smaller tires) and on the stock tires it can go over 60mph with this setup (but they balloon too much so you have to bind them with fishing line - I couldn't be bothered. On 4s it should go over 70 mph with my current setup! If you need parts, search for the FTX Carnage as it is basically the same truck and you can sometimes find cheaper parts for it! Thanks for leaving a comment! I did a more in depth run video recently and you might enjoy that one too!

Thank you! This video has the set I used if you want to stay at 12mm hex. They are 15mm offset. You can get more of an offset but depending on the car you may not want more than 15 as at some point there will be a point of diminishing handling returns. For $10 these transformed my MJX 1/14 clone! kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3i2oqx_mbhlhsU

@BriansRCStuff Hey, bri, it says in the link that you sent me that the spacers are for a 1:10 th scale. Will they work on my Haiboxing 1:16th 10689A ??

@@timmy4539 yes, they will work in most RCs with 12mm hex wheels. I did have to drill out the wheels in my Jetwood to make them fit, however. It is in the video.

@@timmy4539 actually this video here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqbRh6Z4nLmYpK8si=CrTkUhZK8fzaCA7-

@@BriansRCStuff Thank you !

Mine has been solid! I wish they still worked with me… They are paranoid about getting busted by Amazon for what I don’t know… Partially probably because of the language barrier but the motor works great just the same😂

@@BriansRCStuff Hmm, now that you mention it.. the KingVal brand is kinda low key and I suspect they are just re-branded Surpass products. Either way, I'm happy as well! 😁

@@scaleworksRC I think you’re right!

I bet an 18t would be an ideal fit but I am glad i was just able to get a 19t in there (I didn't have an 18t on hand... I would have had to go all the way down to 16t if this didn't work). I am thinking 75mm tires are a little bigger than my AIMROCK tires but a little smaller than the stock tires that came on this truck (I am not sure they will handle 60 mph though). I hope to get it out this weekend to run it. Was your motor mount and everything basically the same? A smaller spur would be great! I haven't looked to hard yet (I looked pretty hard for my 2997A but did not find anything).

@BriansRCStuff I just corrected my post , the wheels I used were 70mm diameter for the 50mph run. I did try some 85mm wheels, but it was very tricky to drive on those. But yeah I did exactly like you have done with the stock motor mount. I actually slotted the holes though. I have not tested but I think the MJX aftermarket adjustable motor mount may work too. There's really no room to go any bigger on the pinion , unless you start chopping the chassis and use a custom motor mount. It was just a bit of fun to be honest using parts I had laying around from other projects. I might have to give it another try on some slightly larger wheels! Good luck 👍

@@TheSpeedySpot Impressive stuff! Did yours also come with a 14t pinion stock? Yours sounds just like mine and sounds REALLY good! Fund little trucks.... I am going to try those AIMROCK tires as they are a channel "sponsor" and I bet it will get up in the mid 50s on them. I am going to have to run a bigger tire to go faster. I am kind of scared to run the stock tires but I will probably give them a go. Then I have some 104mm Arrma Hoons knock offs I may try lol. To hit 56.9 with the stock pinion I used 100 mm foam tires.

Yes stock pinion was a 13 or 14T on my FTX tracer.

@BriansRCStuff After our messages i went back out and did 60mph! Was pretty amusing seeing my tyres balloon and trying to control the car. So now I'm sure you'll get it, maybe slightly more too! Look forward to seeing your next video.

It is already lowered but it causes issues with the front suspension geometry. I don't think a gyro will work as the trucks is so slopy I think it will make the gyro go nuts. Thanks for the ideas though. I got it up to 75 mph in my newest video on the truck!

I have many different cars ..believe me unless that car is setup badly or linkage is a sloppy mess a gyro will make the car run a nice straight line. Off course it may be a bad servo,crappy road or the way you drive also...built my first rc car almost 40 years ago..

@@roadstar499 and these cars everything is a sloppy mess… I ran a gyro in my 16890a with limited success… So I guess I might as well try it in 2997a.😎

Sorry, what do you mean? Are you saying how do you connect it when it comes with a XT 60 connector? You could either purchase an adapter, which is not an ideal solution but will work. or solder on a Dean connector. Or you could solve her on XT 60 for your ESC if you prefer. If you do not know how to solder, maybe you have a friend that could help you or possibly your local hobby shop would do it for a small fee.

@@BriansRCStuff oh ok. I can solder.

@@BriansRCStuff just purchased the thunder it arrives Friday. Can't wait to try it out. Haven't had an RC truck since I was a kid. A lot has changed in 24 years

@@DON-JULIO-FISHING If you have any questions, I would be happy to try to help! I was in the same boat as you just a couple years ago and slowly started posting videos getting my vintage cars working again. If you are looking for a 3S battery, do not get the 1500 for your thunder. It is too small. If you need help picking an appropriate battery, just let me know! I tested the small battery in the thunder just because it is a stable platform that would put a relatively high load on it.

@@DON-JULIO-FISHING very good! Just make sure you get a larger 3s… 5000 to 6500 would be a good size. when you solder, make sure you do one wire at a time to avoid possibly damaging the battery the wires touch.😎

Sadly I only saw the 2s version with Deans. I solder on new connectors to mine (adaptors will get you by but if you are going for speedruns it is not a good idea as they add resistance and can melt if you go too crazy with the amp draw). What are you looking to run this LIPO in? I would recommend going with a much larger LIPO if it is in the Thunder but this LIPO would be excellent in a smaller RC truck.

@@BriansRCStuff well I've got a thunder coming back from Britt with an upgraded ESC that can run up to 4S. Just have to get a cooling fan for the motor. Do have an MJX hyper go H 16 BM and should have an upgraded sonic and a 2997A that I am purchasing from Britt.

I can't wait to see how that Thunder runs. It should be a ripper! Sounds like you are going all out!