HCC788 - 1987 DOMINATOR & AVALANCHE - Battle Force 2000 - G.I. Joe toy!

[@TheBoglin]

I love Avalanche's file card, that part about him hunting and skinning wild animals with just a knife, selling the furs, then using the money to put himself up in a motel is a hilarious series of events. I can just imagine the commanding officers talking about it over the phone like: "Where IS Costello? It's been a month, did he die out ther- he's alive? And he's WHERE?? How the hell did he get a motel room!? He sold furs from animals he killed and has been living the high life in a motel for the past 30 days? Get me Duke from G. I. Joe on the line, I think I have a place for that maniac..."

[@donaldthompson9938]

I think the reason they sold the action figures and vehicle separately was possibly that if kids didn't have the money to buy the vehicle they could a least get the action figure instead. Toys were going up in price in the late 80's.

[@mattdawg83686]

I never got any of the Battleforce 2000 stuff; primarily because the vehicles and figures were sold separately. However, I did think it was a clever concept at the time, and the commercial showing how they fit together to whoop ass further piqued my interest; hey, I was 14 in 1987! Great review, and I appreciate the collaboration with and the assist from Joefan82!

[@mikewilson858]

Giving it a second look, I like the vehicle. Along with the snow mobile aspect, that shell could be a way to make it amphibious. Adding skirts to tanks to make them float has come up time and again. Don’t know why future soldiers have to have silver accessories.

[@rtd1409]

I got my BF2000 figures in the two-packs at the time and I had none of the vehicles. I loved Avalanche and with the mic he was co pilot of my favorite Snow Cat! To me the snow theme was my favorite aspect and any new figures were enjoyed!

[@christianhafer9819]

The Artic figures and vehicles are my favorite too.

[@nyquist75]

that's hysterical how the tank opens up and a smaller tank comes out

[@HCC788]

Like a Russian nested doll! Maybe there's an even smaller tank inside that one!

[@nyquist75]

don't like the dominator? DEAL WITH IT as the second tank rolls out...

[@shermanvermin76]

I like *all six* of the late 1987 Battle Force 2000 figures - Avalanche, Blaster, Blocker, Dodger, Knockdown and Maverick (and the newest member, from 1989 - Dee-Jay).

[@80sfreak42]

What would you consider Recoil? Hes the driver on the box art of the pulverizer 2000

[@christianhafer9819]

I'll probably only get the Dominator and Avalanche from this line for the time being. I'm a huge fan of the artic Joe's, and vehicles, and Avalanche and the Dominator are the only ones I don't have yet.

[@christianhafer9819]

I have since gotten both.

[@johnwild8336]

I was long out of collecting by the time this figure/vehicle set came out. It's nice to see what way the action figure line progressed and your video does that well. I've always had a soft spot for the arctic vehicles because my jump on point was G.I. Joe Issue 11, Snow Job and the Battle Arctic Cat snowmobile. It seems to me Hasbro was upping it's game with this line, competing with all the gimmicky toy lines, so it's understandable that this toy is so different than the previous lines. Great work on your video and looking forward to future Battleforce 2000 shows.

[@HCC788]

Thank you! I'll try to make BF2000 month memorable.

[@agnethaladuff8559]

Very nice review of the Battleforce 2000 Dominator and Avalanche.

[@andrewandrew4568]

"2000" used to sound so futuristic. Now it is over 20 years ago.

[@brett8481]

HoodedCobraCommander788 +HoodedCobraCommander788 The firing of missiles out of a canon was utilized with MGM-51 Shillilagh which was designed to be fired out of the turret from the M60A2 "Starship" Patton version and the M551 Sheridan AR/AAV. It was a bit of a failure. From the blueprints, it appears the Dominator is using a similar missile in addition to standard tank rounds.

[@bartdman95]

I love Battle Force 2000. It broke my heart when I read on 1990 G.I.Joe trading card that the team was killed via Cobra firing squad.

[@HCC788]

Yep. They're pushing up daisies. All except Dodger.

[@bartdman95]

Really? I didn't know that. I didn't have much access to G.I.Joe comics nor TV. I could only read and buy the comics once in a blue moon if they reach my 3rd world country on a store called BOOK SALE. And regarding episodes on TV, well, our house only had 1 TV set. And my Grand parents kept on watching a show called "Jan N' Marcia" With the same time slot. I only was able to watch a handful of episodes thanks to a neighbor who always recorded the episodes on Betamax. We had access to the toys despite not having much access to G.I.Joe media. The trading card where I read the death of the Battle Force 2000 team was on a bootleg card of Maverick. It was an Honor Hall card. (Correct me if I'm wrong) I still have it in my Bootleg card collection somewhere. Why was Dodger spared? Was he able to dodge the firing squad? :) Thanks for reading and replying sir. :) I hope to see you soon on a KZbin REWIND video in the future..

[@edwinsmith-jones6205]

If I didn't know better, design wise, I would of thought this guy belonged to Lanard's: The Corps line of action figures.

[@ExUSSailor]

The idea of launching a missile from a tank's main gun isn't without precedent. The 152mm gun on the M551 Sheridan was designed to fire the MGM-51 Shillelagh anti tank missile.

[@HCC788]

Cool!

[@boogerf3679]

When it came out of the shell it kinda looked like a US Army Paladin.Thanks for the review by the time these came out I was getting too old for G.I. joe toys. (still was readed the comic)

[@HCC788]

Thanks! I was still around G.I. Joe in 1987, but BF2000 puzzled me. I also read the comics for a while after giving up the toys.

[@cyberfrank-bx2nv]

I so agree with you with the overwhelming futuristic stuff. I bought all this gimmick, none of those vehicles looked good or realistic. as concept, I would have preferred no drivers and a lower price point, put driving as secondary specialty, that would have made army building easier. an apc with an armored cover instead of canvas would have been a much better idea than the 2000 mess. still, it s entertaining to watch what you hated most about it, it reminds me my own deception when I gathered the whole circus together. the dominator was way too small, put it against a mobat for a laugh, [or cry...] and the figs did nt look as a team in any shape or color... it looks like army vehicles that don t want to be in the army, or serve any realistic purpose. probably designed by playmobil....lol.

[@BenKurth]

Six full reviews... during the month of April?!? Mind. Blown. Rob Liefeld belt pocket reference!?! Mind double blown.

[@HCC788]

Mine, too!!

[@ralang999]

it looks like he has a pair of nunchuks strapped to his leg!

[@HCC788]

I agree. It looks like nunchuks. I don't know why he would have them, though.

[@ralang999]

makes me think of the twin Sais that the Ice Viper (Cobra Wolf driver) came with

[@soterioncoil2163]

Thanks for the review!

[@HCC788]

Thanks for watching!

[@soterioncoil2163]

You're welcome!

[@woofan25]

Joefan82, hcc788 - g.i. Joe KZbin shared universe continues to grow!

[@HCC788]

I really enjoy working with JoeFan. He's a good guy. He has really done me a solid with these previews.

[@kevharper7070]

I wasn't a big fan of the Battle Force 2000 figures except for Dodger who easily makes my top 5 Joes (because he looked like a marine from Aliens).

[@HCC788]

That seems to be the consensus: Dodger is everyone's favorite.

[@TroySmith25]

Kev Harper totally a knockoff or the Aliens Space Marines. Dodger was my favorite also.

[@KevinMayle1974]

Such a great idea for the month!

[@HCC788]

I hope people like the idea, because that's a lot of BF2000!

[@80sfreak42]

Great content...you covered all areas plus much more than I never knew ..thank you...I just got this today..complete but I need to add the gi joe logo sticker to the front end..

[@80sfreak42]

I also have avalanche...

[@ZedKaizoku]

I remember having Avalanche, Blocker and Dodger the only members of the battle force 2000 since found their design awesome along The Dominator but lost them while moving into a new house

[@HCC788]

Sorry your lost your toys that way. I suspect this is how must of my old stuff got lost. My parents moved and I think it got left behind.

[@ZedKaizoku]

HoodedCobraCommander788 yeah as kids we didn't value the toys most of time they get lost or forgotten at places while moving... But now as adults collector they bring us back to our childhood especially G.I.Joe, Batman, transformers, Ninja Turtles and Star wars to do our best to recollect them if its the vintage or modern design anyway can't wait for the next parts of Battle force 2000

[@80sfreak42]

@@ZedKaizokusame here...all my 80s toys...wish I had them still...

[@racerxgundam]

not bad. not great. if i had this as a kid i would have def used it! i tend not to like snow vehicles but honestly....the lil mini tank concept is ok to me. even if u didnt have the full set...the external part had guns and could have made for a great make shift battle barracks/field cover for joes to shoot from!

[@HCC788]

Maybe you will like the completed Future Fortress! If so, I'll need to check with the Guinness people, because you may be the first!

[@cruizerdave]

I do remember the drivers and vehicles being sold separately and thinking it was a cheap ploy. Also, for some reason I have no memory of the Future Fortress.

[@HCC788]

Maybe after you see the completed fortress, you can decide if the gimmick would have appealed to you as a kid.

[@aerytful]

Nice shirt! Oh, and nice review.

[@HCC788]

Thanks! Oh, and Thanks! :)

[@aerytful]

HoodedCobraCommander788 You're welcome! Oh, and you're welcome! :) :) :)

[@mechaman7818]

11:55 Maybe they're sleeves full of copper discs like in Hammer's Slammers.

[@cruizerdave]

Six reviews in five weeks, that's good news. Otherwise I was gonna call you a slacker! Or not.BF2000's death in the comics was its best moment.

[@HCC788]

I don't know how I'm gonna pull this off!

[@cruizerdave]

We believe you Chrome Faced Cobra Commander! Oh wait, this is Hooded Cobra Commander... yeah, you can do it. Totally.

[@mgvillanmp478]

cool review man I was out of collecting when this team came out they looked interesting but I never got them

[@HCC788]

You'll have to let me know what you think of them after you have seen all of them.

[@mgvillanmp478]

HoodedCobraCommander788 ok I definitely will the fortress looks kind of cool

[@Pensive_Melancholy_]

@HoodedCobraCommander788 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE REVIEWS ABOUT THE DEFIANT AND THE MOBILE COMMAND CENTER BOTH FROM 1987. THANKS AND KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.

[@michaeljo1988913]

big ben ! big bear ! hope you to review these two "big" figures !

[@samfrito]

great review HCC. The BF 2K was kind of Hasbros undoing for me as a consumer. The military aesthetic was fading into the background and because of this and Cobra-la I was losing interest. A few years ago I collected all the BF vehicles and drivers and I am kind of happy with them. We can't curse Hasbro for trying something different.

[@HCC788]

Thanks, Sam!

[@mikesmith2718]

I hated bf2000 but I recently completed the figures and I can appreciate some of them I only have the pulverizer which was the last vehicle in the line but I want to see the fortress in detail it sucks they don't actually attach together but seeing it in a review may light a fire to start collecting the vehicles too nice review ready for next week

[@HCC788]

Thanks, Mike! I am interested in knowing what you think after we look at all of them.

[@matiowskyd2559]

will you also be covering DEJAY and his PULVERIZER tank? I know they came out after the main group but both the figure and the vehicle are marketed as part of the battleforce 2000 lineup. Since you are doing a battleforce 2000 month it would be incomplete if you didn't include them .

[@HCC788]

They'll have to get their reviews later. Six reviews in 5 weeks is the best I can do. I'm only human.

[@Tr0nzoid]

With the designs, angles, and clunky parts, Battle Force 2000 just didn't look like GI Joe toys.

[@davv1975]

Had to skip these when I was a kid...I dont know if it was the lack of accessories, or just found them boring. I guess thats why that got killed off so quick. HCC, if you have the Impel card set, please read the bios for these guys, itll give you a giggle. Each one states how they were totally obliterated and will never come back :)

[@HCC788]

I'll check it out. :)

[@mattlerch531]

at least the dominator isn't the silver mirage motorcycle, so it has that going for it.

[@HCC788]

It could always be worse!

[@knighthawk4328]

MaN, u even sound like Steve Buscemi!!!

[@delvis7842]

So they sold the vehicles separate from the driver? It was a futuristic line? Why not cross promote with Transformers and have the vehicles change into a robot? Didn't Hasbro sell Transformers too? Would have made more sense to sell them separate that way, and promote 2 toylines. I've been wrong before though!

[@Jaystation420]

The thing on his leg looks like nunchucks to me.

[@uhhuhhuh100]

Great review! I'm not a big Battle Force 2000 fan. I never liked any of the figures or vehicles.

[@racerxgundam]

its a good thing that these guys never went up against destro's iron grenadiers!!!!! holy cow would these guys have gotten their asses handed to them

[@HCC788]

That's true. Would have been a slaughter. The Iron Grenadiers were no joke.

[@christianhafer9819]

@@HCC788 The Iron Grendiere's were the all "sub team" worth collecting. They're fantastic. Since there is only 7 Battle Force 2000 figures total, I believe, I might get them, and just Avalanche's vehicle. I don't need the fortress

[@TroySmith25]

I just watched a 24 minute commercial before this review. I sure hope you earned a lot of Google pennies for all that time.

[@HCC788]

Holy crimeny, Troy! You deserve some kind of medal!

[@travismiller4320]

Troy Smith man, you're lucky, I just had to answer a quick survey. Is it still the same pennies as the long commercials ?

[@HCC788]

TBH, I have no idea how they calculate the ad revenue. I have tried to figure it out, and it is voodoo. Some days there are more pennies than others, but there doesn't seem to be any pattern.

[@TroySmith25]

HoodedCobraCommander788 if it doesn't violate your contract with KZbin, let us know if you saw a noticeable difference in your ad revenue metrics.

[@Tr0nzoid]

That's why I jumped on KZbin Red as soon as I read about it. I couldn't stand commercials, even if they had the option to "skip ad" after five seconds.

[@davidsoriente6845]

I checked my Mayan cal-en-dar app and, wait a minute, uh oh...

[@HCC788]

Not good?

[@davidsoriente6845]

HoodedCobraCommander788 according to Mayan mathematics, which has always proven infallible, we have gone by the way of VCR recordings, tough break for us, looking forward to next weeks review, see you then!

[@walterwright8454]

The microphone looks like it is flipping someone off.

[@jakubbuszko3089]

I knew Vector & Mewerick vintage ... :(

[@HCC788]

We will see the Vector and Maverick soon!

[@jakubbuszko3089]

I think Hasbro has a problem with this sub team it was to simple as desing & not memorable like other or classical G.I Joe team ... I can tell many few nice stories about Rock Viper , Night Viper or a many Tiger Force sub team Bull Horn who was first guy in my team but Battle 2000 was to simple ..:(

[@fischgeist9664]

These would be more acceptable if they were packaged together. Separately, neither is very attractive. When this came out, I was not collecting GI Joe anymore (I drew the line at Crystal Ball), so I never had these toys. Could the cylinders on his left leg be flares or some kind of silly ammo cartridge for his weird gun? I can't make out the more pointy detail on top, so it's difficult to tell what Hasbro had in mind. And the way it's strapped to his leg seems less than ideal. Maybe it's special poaching/hillbilly gear.

[@HCC788]

I agree: packaging them together at least would have helped. Other commenters have said the device on the legs looks like nunchuks. That is kind of what it looks like, but I can't think of any reason he would have nunchuks!

[@fischgeist9664]

I did think nunchucks, too, but it's just too bizarre. I was trying to think of something more apt... but I guess Battleforce2000 is so cutting edge, they've sheared off rational thought! Thanks as always for the entertaining review.

[@christianhafer9819]

@@HCC788 He was a big TMNT fan, and Michelangelo was his favorite.

[@chesterobergthejesusfreak1039]

HCC could you review the Rolling Thunder

[@HCC788]

I would love to review the Rolling Thunder! I don't have one yet, but I will eventually pick one up.

[@chesterobergthejesusfreak1039]

Thankyou

[@christianhafer9819]

@@HCC788 I have one. Got one mostly complete for 52 dollars. It's now complete spending maybe 100 total. Tremendous deal. It's a gorgeous vehicle.

[@jameswtu]

instead of a knife it looks like nunchucks

[@HCC788]

I agree. It looks like nunchuks. But I don't know why he would have them.

[@bgddyphil]

HoodedCobraCommander788 cause late 80s and cause ninjas

[@breandan3280]

Yeah, I had this figure as a kid and always thought it was nunchucks

[@juggergrimm]

you need to fix your lighting, you make Trump look pale in this video.

[@HCC788]

There was one rule stated on this channel: regardless your beliefs, you may not insult others here. It is a very simple rule that you have violated. You will now be removed.

[@cowpuddles4851]

I liked the BF 2000 figures but those vehicles were garbage. Unless there’s a battle in the snow, the Dominator isn’t going. No Future Fortress for you!