[HD] Chen Lu - 1998 Nagano Olympics - SP "Adiós Nonino"

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@will-kv4cw
@will-kv4cw 9 жыл бұрын
Such a wonderful performance! I am so obsessed with her poise, elegance, and pure beauty. I always think Lu Chen is the most artistic female skater ever. Look forward to seeing her free skate in Nagano. Thank you so much for uploading this beautiful program!
@junkaiyang9657
@junkaiyang9657 7 жыл бұрын
She was so underscored here....short and long both
@nipaipo36100
@nipaipo36100 4 жыл бұрын
the lutz was underotated, the spins were not difficult and the spiral sequence was not very difficult too. ok 4.9 and 5.1 were severe. but overall she deserved the marks she received on both programms. even on her long 1 of the 2 lutzes was underotated the flip was not well landed the 3 3 combo was not completed and same remark for the spins. i was not chocked by her marks and i was happy she was capable to get the podium.
@dbulc5171
@dbulc5171 4 жыл бұрын
@Gary Henzler Although Lulu is a beautiful skater, she didn't deserve higher than bronze at these games. Some even argue that Maria or Irina should've gotten the bronze. I think the correct 3 were on the podium.
@virginiamerlo7640
@virginiamerlo7640 2 ай бұрын
​@@nipaipo36100but the marks are way too low not to think theres someting wrong happening! Now, I'd like to know what you have to say about the 5.3 presentation mark from the Aussie judge. Lu's artisry was supreme and only rivaled by Michelle. A 5.3? Come on! Isnt it more than obvius the judges were setting up gold for Michelle? Same story as in 96 worlds. And before Michelle's fans crucify me let me tell you that I LOVE Michelle and that she is by far the skater that thrills me the most. But im trying to be objective here. I think Lu was underscored in 96 and in Nagano. In 96 she should've won. Its unbelievable she didnt. She skated a true work of art (yes, superior to Michelle's Salome, which was great). As of Nagano, Michelle had evolved so much and was at her peak of her abilities. Lyra Angelica is a diamond. She was THE BEST that night and I think she deserved to win. She didnt really need the"help" the corrupted judges gave her... that they gave her and that gave the other American who ultimately (and so unfairly) took the gold.
@dashoverton1963
@dashoverton1963 2 жыл бұрын
One of the few female skaters who actually skated with an artistic passion.
@TheFadingMan
@TheFadingMan 3 жыл бұрын
Always underscored but one of my all time favorite skaters.
@annadurkee8607
@annadurkee8607 5 жыл бұрын
wow after watching her skate I was shocked at how low her scores were.
@NIQ31
@NIQ31 Жыл бұрын
they were very high for such skating
@nipaipo36100
@nipaipo36100 8 жыл бұрын
4.9????? Looool. the austrialian judge has always been bad lol
@aarnemark
@aarnemark 4 жыл бұрын
I love this program: her style and attitude. She is special.
@rankfirst1
@rankfirst1 2 жыл бұрын
The best Adios Nonino program. Even now.
@Fentanest08
@Fentanest08 7 жыл бұрын
What an artistic music performance ! Also her costume really fits on the music well.Definitely Underscored ! She deserves more points.
@Demetri450
@Demetri450 3 жыл бұрын
Master class on how to interpret music while skating from beginning to end. Her & Kwan owned this Olympic. 👏
@abrahamlora329
@abrahamlora329 Жыл бұрын
2 of the 3 spins had issues, slow towards the end and the lutz looked noticeably UR so I can see the 4.9 but the judges weren’t consistently strict like this so in that perspective it’s uncalled for. I would’ve gone 5.2/5.8.. lipinski should’ve been behind this artistically at 5.7
@Kreatures100
@Kreatures100 4 жыл бұрын
Wow beautiful lady, sophisticated choreography and lyrically performed. Why was she so underscored. Can someone point out the flaws. Yes the Lay back leg position isn’t perfectly perpendicular to the ice and the under rotation on the lutz may have been a bit off but 4.9? Come on. Ridiculous. She is a former world champion!!!
@joseayala5642
@joseayala5642 6 жыл бұрын
She was always one of the best.
@ManuelPabloArnao
@ManuelPabloArnao 4 жыл бұрын
The Australian judge should have been immediately banned for life. Makes no sense.
@mikes7823
@mikes7823 3 жыл бұрын
She was undermarked by all the judges in my opinion. Must have been leaving room for Tara's 'flutz'.
@theprinceoftides6836
@theprinceoftides6836 2 жыл бұрын
And U R surprised it's an Australian judge ?,,. LoL. They have a history of not liking Asians, especially Chinese. Lulu was never gonna get a fair score from that judge, pure and simple.
@ladymay30
@ladymay30 3 жыл бұрын
Such an elegant skater...
@pueraeternus111
@pueraeternus111 6 жыл бұрын
Her triple lutz looked a little under-rotated. But kudos to her being on the correct edge, and for skating this masterpiece.
@Digizzzzs
@Digizzzzs 6 жыл бұрын
Tress Braga it's not under rotated. I thought too but check starting point of her lutz and landing point as well.
@jeungrioppa5937
@jeungrioppa5937 5 жыл бұрын
Jaeden Norris you’re right, it’s actually downgraded.
@dbulc5171
@dbulc5171 5 жыл бұрын
Back then they were very lenient with under rotations. But it seems like they nailed her, based on the scores.
@Buckyroid
@Buckyroid 5 жыл бұрын
It's slightly under because she doesn't get into a tight position until halfway into the jump. But I'd much prefer it over Tara's.
@jf2602
@jf2602 4 жыл бұрын
It should be a 0.2 deduction on under-rotated jumps. The 4.9 and 5.1 were outrageous
@sungjinkim486
@sungjinkim486 8 жыл бұрын
첸루 정말 매력적인 스케이터다 sp에서 리핀스키나 콴보다 잘 했다고 생각한다 lipinski and kwan's lutz jump looks like flutz. Her artistic merit should've been much higher. She is so attractive. At least sp, in my point of veiw,chen is better than two American girls.
@annecohen8927
@annecohen8927 4 жыл бұрын
Lipinski's part Polish and Michelle Kwan's parents emigrated to the US from China.
@funky_tooth
@funky_tooth 3 жыл бұрын
Anne Cohen wtf is your point
@BaddiePurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@BaddiePurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 3 жыл бұрын
@@annecohen8927 and? That literally has nothing to do with the original comment?
@kyleli9977
@kyleli9977 4 жыл бұрын
Dear lord that Aus judge must call 911 for his eyes.
@theprinceoftides6836
@theprinceoftides6836 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, truth or his brain.
@GaryWh-js5vk
@GaryWh-js5vk 7 жыл бұрын
Wow perfect.
@joyceyang1550
@joyceyang1550 2 жыл бұрын
She is the top figure skater in China until now
@mikeg8375
@mikeg8375 4 жыл бұрын
There may have been some slight technical glitches with the quarter turn short on the Lutz Landing and the traveling spin at the end...and at times it was a tad slow... but it was overall a lovely performance with first-rate presentation. I think she was ranked correctly after the short, but I don't understand what the judges from Australia, Hungary and France were thinking...
@stephenlaughlin9323
@stephenlaughlin9323 2 жыл бұрын
Someone else was probably doing the thinking for them ;)
@mikeg8375
@mikeg8375 5 ай бұрын
​@stephenlaughlin9323 yeah and the French judge had her 3rd because they obviously put Bonaly ahead of this which isnt surprising.
@rickowen.k3725
@rickowen.k3725 6 жыл бұрын
Lu chen TES 4.9~5.1??????????? because Tara is flutz ! ! But Tara TES 5.7~5.8 HAHAHAHA
@oceanle
@oceanle 3 жыл бұрын
98 Olympics sparked a passion in skating in Japan.
@dallastexas5770
@dallastexas5770 6 жыл бұрын
The lutz looked a little under rotated which is probably why the 4.9 was given. She also skated early in the short program given her not qualifying for the free skate at the 1997 World Championships. Artistry still the best I have ever seen in the past 26 years I’ve been obsessed with the sport.
@Digizzzzs
@Digizzzzs 6 жыл бұрын
Dallas Texas It's not under rotated, she landed it right into a quarter
@jarenmorris4621
@jarenmorris4621 2 ай бұрын
Actually - the best short! Who hits a mark better than she. 10s across!
@louislocke
@louislocke 4 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous presentation and the marks were absolutely atrocious, but thank god she ended up in 4th. Can't say I am too displeased with that given what she had been through.
@JarenMorris21
@JarenMorris21 8 жыл бұрын
all these years later, I would have still liked Michelle to have won this event (seeing what she did after, glad that didn't happen) but would have put Lu in first after the short for artistry alone here. She was hands down the best artistically in the short. ...and the long really. who didn't cry when she finished??? Michelle didn't skate to her music in either program here but it was still better technically to Tara whose jumps, save for the 3L3L, barely left the ice and spins, Michele's were more difficult. I don't think Tara was ever artistic, she just figured out how to place her hands nicely. Michelle was a better skater in 95 than Tara in 98. Go figure!!! so here we are! I trust that all ladies are happy today and thankful for their contributions!! Skating was so much more fun then!!
@morlavader5454
@morlavader5454 7 жыл бұрын
Get real, the short program is about technical elements first and foremost and even the artistry in this program, while good, is rather bland for her standards and much less than Kwan's historic short program and probably even less than Maria's short program. Considering the weak technical elements, very poorly done double axel, 3 awful spins especialy the combination spin and flying spin, and simple footwork sequence, and small triple flutz combo, and she was extremely lucky to be 4th in the short and get some required elements as high as 5.4 and 5.6. The U.S judge imparticular must have been snorting some strong shit to give marks that high. The 4.6 for required elements was probably closer to an accurate mark, no major mistake but atleast half her elements were mediocre to weak in quality, and the artistry while good was below most of her other programs too.
@Boymanjusri
@Boymanjusri 3 жыл бұрын
@@morlavader5454 small triple Lutz combination? Are you blind? I like Michele but despise Kwan Bot like you. Get your ass out of here!
@xuezhang9944
@xuezhang9944 2 жыл бұрын
So underscored.
@Generictwink
@Generictwink 8 жыл бұрын
5.3 for presentation my ass.
@rickowen.k3725
@rickowen.k3725 5 жыл бұрын
PCS 1.Chen lu Or Kwan / 2. Kwan Or Chen lu / 3~4.Tara or Maria / 5. Irina
@RomErte
@RomErte 5 жыл бұрын
Maria - 4? haha!
@TaiChiGhost
@TaiChiGhost 2 жыл бұрын
She is a world class beauty, and a brilliant skater. I am here on KZbin looking for that performance she did years ago where her skating routine looked so much like the Chinese Martial Art, Pa-Kua. She skated a circle, did a spin, skated the other way on the circle, and did another spin. She would hold different postures (dynamically, of course) as she skated on the circle. I wish I could find it.
@connor9588
@connor9588 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing performance. Chen won the first-ever Olympic medal in figure skating for China. Very well done!
@vincent_zq
@vincent_zq 3 жыл бұрын
she also did in 1994 Olympics.😂
@dlnnyc64
@dlnnyc64 11 ай бұрын
Sandra Bezic choreographed this if I’m not mistaken. So many wonderful moments in this section. This arrangement of Adios is so elegant.
@michaeljj43
@michaeljj43 Жыл бұрын
4.9????????? are those judges crazy????
@sukeme-4630
@sukeme-4630 6 жыл бұрын
美しい!!
@russianblue5297
@russianblue5297 11 ай бұрын
Her legs are very nice. It is art in that sense as well.
@pjchj3599
@pjchj3599 6 жыл бұрын
I don't feel she is better artistic than the other legend BUT I feel she is one of the fastest female skater
@クジラブリ大根
@クジラブリ大根 4 жыл бұрын
トリプルルッツがやや回転不足であることや、滑走順が早かった事から 点が抑えられている印象です。 それを考慮しても4.9や5.1は考えられないぐらい低い点数だと思います。 所作が美しく姿勢もきれいで、さすが元世界女王の演技でした。
@NIQ31
@NIQ31 Жыл бұрын
The American judge wanted to protect the American skaters from Butyrskaya thinking that Chen was going to be bad in the free skate and not able to overtake Kwan or Lipinsky
@nipaipo36100
@nipaipo36100 2 жыл бұрын
5.5 and 5.8
@suzuki7872
@suzuki7872 5 жыл бұрын
最初のルッツが 回転不足かどうかで評価が分かれてますね
@pattysmith5957
@pattysmith5957 11 ай бұрын
Magnifisant!
@mikeg4576
@mikeg4576 4 жыл бұрын
Presentation Mark should have been 5.7 at minimum
@piotrkusy5235
@piotrkusy5235 3 жыл бұрын
Could anyone explain SUCH low technical marks? Wow, im watching figure skatting since i was a kid when i fell in love with Michelle Kwans skatting but never seen such understated scores. Is there any story behind it?
@NIQ31
@NIQ31 Жыл бұрын
underrotated lutz and terrible spins
@dusdn3218
@dusdn3218 6 жыл бұрын
국적버프 제외하고 실력만으로 재채점했으면 쇼트 1위는 루첸에게 돌아가는 게 맞다.
@nipaipo36100
@nipaipo36100 4 жыл бұрын
ridiculous australian and hungarian judges...5.3 for presentation??big lol!
@김나은-p9i8i
@김나은-p9i8i 2 жыл бұрын
best!!!!!♡♡♡
@horsey8765
@horsey8765 2 жыл бұрын
Same music Karen Chen used to win USA silver in the 2022 Olympics
@nipaipo36100
@nipaipo36100 4 жыл бұрын
5.3 for artistry was pathetic
@mikelara2151
@mikelara2151 5 жыл бұрын
The lutz was under rotated
@dbulc5171
@dbulc5171 4 жыл бұрын
I think by today's standards, it might even be considered downgraded. But you can't beat her artistry.
@Boymanjusri
@Boymanjusri 3 жыл бұрын
Not all all. It’s within a quarter. She rotate always late.
@mikelara2151
@mikelara2151 3 жыл бұрын
@@Boymanjusri I’m curious if that’s why some of the judges really hit her hard on the first mark. She was NOT having it. Lol.
@Bnizzofashizzo
@Bnizzofashizzo 2 жыл бұрын
That last combination spin was... ghastly
@stephenquillen1479
@stephenquillen1479 Жыл бұрын
Everyone's upset with the Australian judge's marks, but the Hungarian judge placed Chen Lu even lower (and it's the ordinals that matter)!
@risktakerdaito
@risktakerdaito 9 жыл бұрын
a beautiful performance but technical point is low because of her 3Lz< and traveling spin.
@skatefan9495
@skatefan9495 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, the traveling spin was quite obvious. But 4.9? Where did that come from?
@sbe79
@sbe79 7 жыл бұрын
Besides the travelling combo spin, the other spins weren't quite in the same realm as many of the top ladies. They looked uncomfortable and you could tell she had a hard time keeping position. She was also surely downgraded on the base mark because of the Triple Toe. She was probably the last skater considered a serious contender that used the Toe Loop as their non-combination triple. Kwan, Lipinski, Butyrskaya, Slutskaya, Gusmeroli... everyone else that mattered did not use a Toe. By this point, everyone else had upgraded to Loop and Flip (except for Bonaly who was hanging on here by reputation alone). The SP had changed a lot since she had last won a title. I'd venture they also may have deducted for the "barely-there" spiral sequence. It was something a mediocre junior skater would do. She didn't hold any position for longer than a second. Not powerful, nor convincing. But, damn, did she know how to acknowledge portions of music. She didn't skate *over* music, she skated *to* it as an extension of the sound. I loved it, artistically. Technically? I wasn't mad about the 4.9 though I might have given her a 5.2 or 5.3... but, in no universe should it have been any higher. Artistically, it was a good 5.6 or 5.7... I didn't really "feel" that SHE felt the music, at least not in the way she did two years prior when she still a force.
@figureskatingvideos4644
@figureskatingvideos4644 4 жыл бұрын
sbe79 Michelle used the triple toe in the short...
@Boymanjusri
@Boymanjusri 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t be a parrot 🦜 that repeat lies from other! The Lutz was not under. It was within a quarter.
@Boymanjusri
@Boymanjusri 3 жыл бұрын
@@sbe79 such a liar. Kwan Did a triple toe too in the SP.
@bfitzy123
@bfitzy123 Жыл бұрын
Those marks were very unfair
@hotchata5292
@hotchata5292 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like that Australian.
@RajaSTAN-ke4xz
@RajaSTAN-ke4xz 3 жыл бұрын
Nicole bobek now needs to ask u
@adiosnonino4459
@adiosnonino4459 3 жыл бұрын
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