HDZero Goggle vs Sky04x Analog Performance and Analysis

[@RyanQuellet]

Would you use Analog on HDZero Goggle? Is the upgrade in image quality worth it? Tell me what you think

[@Michael_D_show]

Yes, because the HDZ Goggles would replace my Skyzone Cobra X.

[@c47force15]

Ye of course, this is fantastic.

[@miguelbaldi]

Please, just let me buy it NOW! That's the only thing holding me to HDZero migration. Thanks for the diligent work you are doing with Carl!

[@FATSNAIL-FPV]

YES! was looking to maybe buy the Skyzone o4x v2 to replace my echine EV300o v1's.. guess I'll just move over the vrx now and be done. no 60fps dvr on the ev300o v1's but hey...

[@SunspotFPV]

Heck yeah. These are going to replace to dom hd3s.

[@edrone_]

This is a fantastic update Ryan 👏 The advantages of the deinterlacer far outweigh any negative cosmetic comments I have heard going around the module bay. I think this is awesome looks clean and refined for the way the module clicks in. Every video you make I am liking the goggles more and more! 🙌👍🤟🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@JonE5FPV]

geeez, i really want these for analog now.

[@sixtofive]

Since I started flying my older analog quads on the new goggles with the expansion module I can tell a much bigger difference in the picture quality between low and high quality analog cameras. The sharpness of the image and the dynamic range of the colors really is a big improvements on the high quality analog cameras.

[@BOTGRINDER]

This is the part im most excited about, the wifi board is a great idea too!

[@tonymorgan328]

Thanks for the great info and test you did here Ryan. The ability of putting the Rapid Fire module on the HDZero goggles is going to put me on the pre-order list.

[@MCsCreations]

I was thinking exactly about what you said in the end there. Those goggles can change FPV forever. HDZero built in, a much better analog video quality and perhaps even Walksnail VRX. DJI is going to be left behind, which would be really interesting to see happening. Anyway, stay safe there with your family, Ryan! 🖖😊

[@RyanQuellet]

It would be an interesting future. Dji appeals to consumers and the others appeal to hobbyists. I don't know if there is room in the hobby market for all of these options

[@stephenmutch4034]

The difference in image quality is impressive. Using my Skyzone 04X goggles in flight I have not noticed the vertical oscillation of the image with either analog or Shark Byte digital Vrx. Budget limitations however prohibit me from ditching my present goggles for marginal gains. There will always be a better system in a few months time, just like when you think you want to upgrade your computer.

[@bonfpv]

Thanks Ryan. This answers the exact question I had. I actually tried to get Andrew to relay this question to you before the event. I’m really eager to get my hands on these. Hopefully the issues will be resolved and I can be one of the first owners in Asia!

[@louisdutoit4919]

If you’re the first, I hope to be the second.

[@velkrofpv6654]

I am definitely getting these goggles when they come out. Thank you very much for keeping us all up to date with the progress. Super excited to get these just for Analog with HD zero eventually!!

[@rp479]

This information you bring is really good and very much appreciated. Thank you for what you do. If you were to polish up your editing and presenting style I feel like your channel would greatly increase in viewership.

[@Snakkerz003]

ABSOLUTELY 100% needs analog! I would not buy these new goggles without it. It would cost a small fortune to convert all my VTX to HdZero. I don't want to carry 2 set of goggles as I get things converted or if I have a crash and need to change the VTX in the field

[@pacospete4299]

I'm a noob to FPV and i took an interest in this hobby about the time some were bricking the Jumper T-Pro , THIS part of the RC hobby scares the hell out of some of those who built QUADS using KK2 fc . I have a list of which Goggles i'm considering to purchase soon . Last night i was considering DJI Goggles V2 because i would like the option of adding analog to whichever choice i make .... HDZero is still at the top of the list.... Many thanks and Good Luck !!!!

[@Olafaloofian]

The awesome support for analog is the #1 reason I'm hyped for these goggles! I want backwards compatibility with all my drones

[@skysailorfpv]

Thank you so much this is what I was waiting for looks great I fly HdZero and analog, so this was important to me

[@danielzawerton7023]

Great stuff !!!! Carl is the BEST. !!!!!!! Thank you for keeping us informed !!

[@CrawlersCampRc]

I'm really glad I didn't invest in anything else and had patience for this to come!! Super excited! Thank for these vids and so glad to hear analog is NOT DEAD!😁 P.s regular analog goggles better start dropping in price quickly!

[@ThirdEyeFPV]

Werdna is such a top guy and glad he’s helping with the testing. Had the pleasure of meeting and racing against him when he visited us at MMRC earlier in the year

[@RyanQuellet]

He's really fast. Especially for his short time in the sport

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

Excellent video, very informative. Looking forward to owning these......

[@Ed-Ed124]

I would use my rapidfire, definitely have too much analog stuff which I will use for many years to come.

[@JohnEFly]

the sharpness looks pretty good on the HDZero, but I would 100% prefer to fly the picture on the skyzone dvr. The contrast, and crushed blacks are a deal breaker. Hopefully that gets ironed out and the HDZero goggles would be a no brainer.

[@RyanQuellet]

Carl is tweaking it still. It is called false color

[@elxero2189]

I'm pretty sure you can adjust the color settings just like any other goggle though

[@JohnEFly]

@@elxero2189 in your display sure, but he's showing what the DVR recorded, which is referring to the image that then gets adjusted by the goggle. There is just some work to be done here. Not a big deal.

[@charlesjones5070]

Agreed. I thought the image on the 04x was way better. The Hdzero looks like it's been artificially sharpened (far too much), it might be a goggle setting rather than than the deinterlacing but overall I'd say the 04x image looks better, softer with more detail in the shadows and in the distance

[@dadog92]

I wonder if is possible to have a sort of buffer to add a scanline somewhere to stabilize the osd or to show the osd elements every other frame to avoid the wobble. either way great video and definitely an upgrade over the normal analog goggles. can't wait to buy one to use with analog

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

Yes that would be great!!

[@robertogden5239]

As I am a bad sighted FPV pilot (more than +2) does the diopter slide comparment a "fatshark"size or will HDZero sell there own ? as you are aware a good selling point foe Skyzone is there +6 to -6 range !

[@mikebergman1817]

Ah man.. I can’t wait. These are perfect IMO.

[@classics967]

I may buy these when they come out. Im a DJI Digital user st the moment but like the Micro size VTXs that HDzero allows for.

[@WindjumbieFPV]

I keep saying that I have not had a problem with analog and see everything as clear as I need to. Especially as we all carry an HD camera and don’t use the DVR footage anyway… If I was to go digital it would be HDZero as it’s very similar to analog but with the higher dpi quality.

[@AirKhanFPV]

Thanks for the test, but can you also do a test against the Orqa FPV.One Pilot? i switched from my sky04 v2 to the orqas, and in my opinion the image and the dvr is mutch better on the orqas, than it was on the sky04x v2. It would be nice to see how the orqas are comparing against the hdzero goggles analog interlacing.

[@RyanQuellet]

I haven't used Orqa's much. MadsTech has though and he found that the Sky04x was better quality optics for him. The Orqa DVR is deinterlaced a lot like the realtime deinterlacer in HDZero goggle. Note though that the realtime goggle video feed on Orqa's does not have deinterlacing

[@lixxfpv]

yayy analoooog in a digital goggle, the transition of analog to digital

[@seewell8168]

The image colour and detail look better in the Skyzones with less bleed which surprises me.

[@vernelfpv]

can't wait until HDZERO goggle is available for consumers

[@itsallsobothersome4537]

More vertical resolution is a nice way of saying "actual analog vertical resolution" because the Skyzone Sky04x renders fields as frames, with only half of the vertical resolution that two combined fields would give (as you correctly pointed out later in the video). Also, very cool comparison. HDZero Goggles perform really, really well, although if you pause at 6:13 for example, the tree on the left looks actually more detailed in the Skyzone image. I wonder if this is a result of the DVR compression having a hard time with the "punchier" colors and higher contrast.

[@taco0077]

I guess you are one of the few youtubers with a good color correction in his videos!!!!

[@mrmagoo600]

Hey Ryan, took the leap of faith after sitting on the fence for over a year. Just purchased HDZ goggles, nano 90 kit for a fresh build and analogue module for my existing quads. Current goggles HDO2s with rapid fire. When using the rapid for with HDZ goggles the lower third of the screen is jittery horizontal lines with black dashes on the very edges, unify Evo VTX. Any ideas or any links that might help? Any advise would be awesome. Thank you

[@Camilookb]

Sick, can't wait to buy it.

[@StuntDoubleFPV]

Would these goggles still offer a better analog picture for a 1.3g signal on a 5.8g repeater??

[@Kmart_FPV]

Looks great!

[@riofpv]

this thing is interesting, in this way I can use all my old models with a single viewer, with the same antennas, great

[@int3fpv]

Exciting stuff Ryan, looks awesome. I did one of the popular hdzero vs analog vs dji penetration test videos on KZbin, but it probably surprises most people I still mostly fly analog (and hdzero for toothpicks) as I prefer the consistency of feel. Can definitely tell there is a difference in quality in the dvr you’ve showed here! What is the fov like of analog in the Hdz goggle in 4:3 compared to the 04x?

[@joaovictorf.carvalho458]

What analog module os this? And what analog module os cheap and reliable?

[@SmudgeFPV]

why are you always test your product on race pilot? could you test on bando/ concrete with freestyle pilot? curious about penetration

[@le_ti_lik]

Would love to see the same video but with any of the orqa goggles instead of the skyzones.

[@jkwilson35]

What are the steps for recording analog. For some reason it will not record . Do you turn goggles on first or the quade for it to record. I also have it on auto record?

[@Flumphinator]

Sooo I’m brand new to this, and I already bought a pair of 04xs. I wanted the HDZero goggles but I didn’t want to wait that long for them. I was planning on upgrading to an HDZero VRX down the road. Will I lose out on a lot of these features?

[@keithplayspc]

Can you disable the deinterlacing? Perrsonally find the shimmer it creates a bit distracting, just wondering if the option is there to toggle it.

[@ridewithandrei]

adding a walksnail vrx via hdmi would affect the response time ?

[@slackerinmotion]

The part about the analog video that bothers me the most is the flashes. If the HDZero goggles can get rid of those flashes, then it's already a WIN for me. Fully support it.

[@FATSNAIL-FPV]

Guess i'll keep flying analog then! but on the HD0 goggles when they finaly are availble lol. my Echine EV300O get's to live on woohoo! WHEN ARE THEY AVAILEBLE IN EUROP!?!??!! I've got a 6" or maybe 7" HDZero quad to build! winter is coming and now all we got is rain! time to build!

[@CalleyyyC]

Very cool for a digital goggle to at least provide an option, better yet an improved input for analog!

[@Dosclic98FPV]

I would like to see a test where you fly into the foliage to see if there is some real benefits to the improved resolution. Great goggles though!

[@rctrix9063]

Great job, proprietary technology islands are a scourge.

[@jaysonrees738]

I'd say it's worth it to migrate. The Sky04X is a decent goggle, but it has a fair share of issues that randomly pop up that they don't appear to be super interested in working out. Some of them even arise after they say they fixed them. Besides, the current VRX has its own issues that the new unit appears to fix.

[@joemck1235]

I really hope the box goggles have all these features that's the only type I can use

[@anthonyfpvminiquad1728]

Wow!

[@user-eq2ug7in7b]

Is that the v2 or v3 steadyview on the skyzone?

[@sunsetpark_fpv]

Wow that was a great update! I love the clean connection that the analog bay makes to the goggles. Any possibility of a button tab lock/release to not allow the analog module to be pulled out by accident? (Yes, I yanked out my RF module by accident once - I know I'm a spaz)

[@madladdan]

Why does the Hdzero goggle have less breakup with Analog?

[@xfOL.]

"Input voltage: 7V-21V (2S-5S)" is this true?

[@spartan3299]

An important view would be seeing scragle, twigs ect.

[@janbroz9878]

What cameras are you using? For analog and for HDZero? Thx ;-)

[@Purusotaman]

When is the goggles be available in market

[@QueDoubleU]

Which analog camera are you using in this video?

[@modquad18]

IMO, this is the holy grail if you fly fast. Any idea when these goggles will be available?

[@spartan3299]

Would a new analog module that has this greater vert res be possible?

[@crash_lander]

Hey Dude!! Still waiting for the Modified Thumb bro video!! When will you send it for us!?

[@crash_lander]

Yeah Crap, keep waiting, I’ll be there when your 1000yrs old scamster.

[@johndaniels3889]

When will these goggles be available

[@aphinion]

HDZ just made the best analog goggle available... not it looks even closer to HDZ XD I like that you guys go through with it though and it makes it so much easier to switch for analog latency-sensible guys as you just can use the same goggles and gadually switch or selectively add HDZ where it fits most... probably what I'd do... Great work guys. I'm really curious how this one will turn out.

[@shaneintegra]

Dang that looks good! Will HDzero goggles have a DIY option where we can print the case and assemble it or will it just buy a pre-assembled unit?

[@RyanQuellet]

Pre-assembled only. CAD files available to customize things to your liking

[@tikibear3332]

If I understand this correctly, you buy an expensive HDZero goggles which you can use for the HDZero feed, then buy an analog "Adapter" which will accept the analog signal feed from any of our existing analog VTXs. Is that Correct? Am I understanding this correctly?

[@smokehead5318]

Yes

[@MatCron]

Getting better...almost thinking to get another pair of goggles. 😁

[@johndeesfpv9289]

looks good to me , when can I get them ?

[@Loz348]

will there be colour options when it goes on sale?

[@Loz348]

im guessing this 👆 is a scam i dont win anything

[@vernelfpv]

the hdzero analog is clearly smoother

[@pofotiouzois]

Is it possible through the analog module to have audio output? thank you

[@RyanQuellet]

Yes

[@Mrfunkyfpv]

what is the starting price

[@Lowbattery_fpv]

The goggles are just amazing, it’s a shame that analog have ton of issues, and is pretty much unflyable. Random blackouts, pink stuffs, rolling screen….i’ve tried everything from firmwares to switching pal to ntsc but the issues are never ended. I bought a skyzone 04 x and now i can fly without fear…relaxed…

[@elxero2189]

Looking good

[@int3fpv]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWK9pXZ8fsd4acU A note on the 04x 'image moving up and down', on the 04x 60fps dvr you can see the image moving up and down as you describe in this video. However when I record the actual lens at a high frame rate with a gopro I see the opposite (see link above) - the image is stable and the osd is moving up and down each field. If you do an actual high frame rate recording of the screen itself you can see the difference from the 60fps dvr (which the entire image is moving up and down), unless I'm doing something wrong here ofc! thanks

[@nerdCopter]

+1👍 💪

[@iobawan]

Very interesting project! But to me doesn't look like an image quality that worth upgrade. Yes it is noticeable when you know where to watch but overall doesn't change much -- still crappy. For example when you said the fence shot is good to see the difference I saw none at first glance. Later -- yes, roof is smoother on the right. The other shot of roof and the wall with dumpsters -- yes you can see the difference. But you also see how horizontal parallel wood planks blend into a mess for both hdzero and skyzone. I mean hdzero analog better that regular analog crap but still crap on a big scale

[@user-yk1cw8im4h]

crap is relative, enough said

[@RCDUDEFPV]

Nice

[@Vespassassina]

you are going to sell a ton of these, one goggle to rule them all. Now if just somebody would come with an OSS DJI VRX implementation ...

[@torpedoLaw]

But can you beat DJI damn it! If so, take my money!!!!!!

[@baggszilla]

First!

[@abcdefbcdefg8352]

nr200p ftw

[@theworst9568]

Why would anyone want to go back to analog after using digital? Only positive analog has over digital is latency and that only matters in racing. For everything else Digital is superior in every way.

[@derrogers]

well, it's nice to have a good analog input. but nobody's will buy this goggles to fly analog. probably not the best idea to put too much effort into this feature... I really hope hardware wise the Google will be more perfomant than the vrx modules. for example the current vrx can't playback DVR files without stuttering. that's really annoying...

[@RyanQuellet]

The new goggle runs on a much faster ARM SOC with full Linux and h.265 DVR. It's a completely new system. Nothing wrong with making analog even better

[@derrogers]

@@RyanQuellet yeah. I just hope this time they get the basics right. I was really stuned when I realized to watch hdzero DVR without stuttering, I have to pop the sdcard, put it in an sdcard reader and watch it via vlc on my phone. it's a 250€ device, it shouldnt be that way.

[@Ivan_Pomidoroff]

Well... looks like this goggles is shit, thanks you.

[@hristiantodorov3923]

I still don't like analog ...

[@ifeetz7612]

Do you know if the new firmware has solved the rolling image picture with analogue?

[@RyanQuellet]

Yes (well, it does things differently). I made a video about this a few months ago

[@ifeetz7612]

@@RyanQuellet in your video I believe that you say some goggles still ended up looking worse with analogue module, right? And you say if we are "die hard analogue people, then hold off on the update, correct? I just want to know that my HD ZERO won't be ruined for analogue after the update, thanks.

[@RyanQuellet]

@ifeetz7612 the latest hdzero goggle firmware has the best analog stability I've seen yet. If using rapidfire, use mode 1 (default)