HE CALLED OUT EVERYONE

[@00wilsone]

But yea, what Shizzy said in the video could be applied to most communities in general. And he threw a huge ass rock at the hornets nest. It is what it is

[@micah459]

This is such a dumb argument. Shizzy never once said other people don't do it but the video is specifically about Vtubers so he's bringing up his gripes with them. You seriously want him to bring up every single community?

[@samuraiprime5044]

@@micah459 It's not an argument. OP is saying the topics and examples made in the video "can be applied" to most, if not, all communities. I assume they didn't point it out to "bring up every single community" but to show that Shizzy shouldn't get the amount of backlash he's getting (although we all know which communities won't stand for it, hence the hornets nest metaphor) since his comments generally works for ANY community.

[@00wilsone]

@@samuraiprime5044 thank you for having comprehension skills🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@samuraiprime5044]

@@00wilsone comprehension skills and common sense is a beautiful combo 🙏

[@MDG-mykys]

​@@micah459Idk, I don't see the point in asking only part of a group to change.

[@Ruzumakii]

I gotta say that as a person whose personal friends with a lot of vtubers, many of em don't really play up the character thing. large percent of them just stream as themselves with a anime skin. I'm not gonna speak for all of em tho. I just disagree with the whole parasocial relationships with vtubers being an okay thing. Its like Ludwig said he's not our friend.

[@Ballsexpuncher]

same same. i am friends or well- in a server of this black vtuber i watch who frequently just vibes on her discord server, and she is a black vtuber. But she don't care about her race nor make it a part of her identity. Point being that regardless of gender, sexuality or race, you should enjoy the vtuber you watch for who they are as a person and not just because of the color of their skin. Even she agrees with that, who is friends with other black vtubers who i have spoken to on occasions whenever a VC goes on and are very kind and humble people. Also, i agree with you 100% about the parasocial thing. idk where that stimga comes from since the many vtubers i watch are very vocal about not liking parasocial relationships. Unless maybe you are referring to JP vtubers.

[@SuperTurboPOP]

yeah, i think there are levels to it its fine to lean on someones content as a form of support/well needed good energy but thinking they’re your friend/there for you specifically is a very dangerous game to play

[@GSEleven]

Omni sounded like a Hollywood hiring manager at one point in this video, he was saying "You got it! You showing it off a little, you sound jealous." Hood Olympian clearly in his prime.

[@chefvideogame]

He doesn’t have the worst editing. It’s extremely tame compared to some non vtubers.

[@findot777]

.... watch video before comment

[@chefvideogame]

@@findot777It could be way worse.

[@SaltedBonez]

​@@findot777 this definitely isn't the worst I've seen. Pretty funny

[@findot777]

@@chefvideogame Yea but in the video, Omni said it growed on him.

[@findot777]

@@SaltedBonez yea I agree?

[@STAYINGUPFOREVER]

This video dropped at the perfect time because I needed something to listen to while I draw 🙏

[@LJXrot]

SAMEEEE

[@RebxrnV2]

You’ve read my mind fr

[@butastur7708]

AH SAME AHAHAHA

[@drez180]

Literally doing the same thing atm 😂

[@chriss.249]

What yall drawin?

[@blairfujin]

So, about the girl around 50 minutes in... she was trying to say that the guy next to her sounds black (he's not but if I remember correctly, he said he grew up in mostly black neighbourhood) without saying he sounds black and... went about it probably the worst way. The guy told her right away (or rather as soon as the shock of the shit she said left him) that this was very much not ok, she apologised and then when people were saying that she did nothing wrong, it's alright, the whole babying vtuber thing, she told them off and admitted that she fucked up. As far as I know, she hasn't repeated anything like that since then

[@00wilsone]

I dont want to gatekeep terms in our community, but sometimes it feels like we have to. Once it gets out of the community it was birthed in, people overuse it and run it into the ground. They end up using it in ways that dont even make sense sometimes, like the "gyat" example. Even for words not in the community look what they did to "gaslight".

[@micah459]

Facts. Every time black people create something, other races want to hop on it only because it's trendy. They don't even bother trying to understand the context or lore of the term. They just add it to their natural day vocabulary. It reminds me of when white people were crip walking on tiktok

[@Amirifiz]

Kills me everytime someone says "gyat" like that. Who tf told that man gyat is an acronym

[@Omegeddon]

​@@Amirifizwhite ppl LMAO

[@magnolt]

gyat just hurts cause it was literally an inside joke of 2020 yourrage streams and I was there when it was created and it was funny and seeing it become what is today is just tough mad disappointing

[@Churrros]

​@@AmirifizI'm pretty sure that one was at least satire

[@joheras9330]

This is basicallly tantamount to pokeing a hornets nest to see if the hive is alive and oooo boy was it sure as hell alive...

[@AyoSteven.Official]

Maybe the community should actually be funny instead of thinking that brainrotted content is okay. Being racist and shit like that ain't funny. Shizzy told no lies

[@jeremymartin7403]

Lmao genuinely I don’t think the vtuber wrong being a black anime fan I definitely don’t feel welcomed in the fandom with definite racism and bad people I mostly just like what I like and ignore the fandom lol

[@erboch7124]

Thats in part ehat he's criticizing tho

[@jeremymartin7403]

@@erboch7124 ? I know I agree

[@maxfun383]

Okay to address some of the comments about the doxing. In the Vtuber space any real life photos of Vtubers is considered a dox because of how dangerous it is. Even if they had a prior time as a rl streamer. This is especially true for Corporate Vtubers because they have a wider audience and they have to separate from their other online personas cause they can lose their job if they don’t. Recently we had some Vtubers do some live performances and because of that she was followed home. That is how bad parasocial the space is. The trolling is also a big problem as well. It’s a reason ppl keep saying “kick the hornet’s nest” because the way he went about it brought out more racist than it needed to be. He’s was just stirring the pot in the way that would harm black vts in the long run. The only other problem I have is that to my knowledge most of the vtubers he used as examples had already apologized and been better. Hell a lot of them I’ve seen calling out racist or if they get some work from someone racist, they would fire them and stop using their work. That’s all I got to say, stay safe y’all.

[@dannyfenton1688]

“The way he went about it brought out more racists than it needed to be” doesn’t sound right to me. His point was that racism was there and needed to change and then a bunch of people made racist comments to him for holding certain vtubers accountable? They just proved his point. I didn’t mess with some of the comments Omni was making either. To me it came off as “that’s just the way it is in this space”. Again proving Shizzy’s point of that needing to change.

[@maxfun383]

@@dannyfenton1688 Because it’s Twitter. He was baiting them on the worst platform with the dregs of society is on. Ppl not even in the community would just come in with the excuse to be racist to make it seem like the community as a whole is a problem when there no the majority. It’s the same with the whole nerd space with Twitter cause racist, sexist, and homophobic ppl all come out strive on Twitter. I’ve seen it many times where some people who are not with the group to do some fuck shit like Matt Rifle, idk spell this idiot last name, and the gaming and anime scene. When he said these things are just for pedos and little kids. He doesn’t even like it. He was just using us to be racist

[@maxfun383]

@@dannyfenton1688 did you get my other comment

[@dannyfenton1688]

@maxfun383 I’m not sure what you’re talking about unless you’re referring to the doxxing point. I don’t watch vtubers and I wouldn’t have known who that vtuber who got “doxxed” was without the fans telling me. Plus I was told that her face reveal was public to. Even if that’s breaking an unwritten rule it doesn’t give people the right to respond with racism.

[@maxfun383]

@@dannyfenton1688 no I made a comment earlier but it got deleted for some reason. I pretty much said Twitter is the worst place on the internet. It’s full of racist ppl no matter what, him egging them on just made it worse, and we have ppl who not even part of the community coming in just to make racist comments. Like what Matt Rilfe did when the localizers stuff went down when on record saying he thinks anime is for esptain ppl.

[@SoraIndigo]

I think the bigger issue with racism isn't if it exists in the vtuber community or not, but how much of it is accepted with little to no consequences. I'm not saying just because someone says the N word or parrots a word in another language that sounds similar to it when they hear the N word in a game or song that they need to be shot on the spot, instead they should be educated and that responsibility is on their fans and fellow vtubers, because more than likely these vtubers are likely ignorant to the context and the history of the word if their origin is from a country that doesn't teach these kind of things in school, which is where most people learn the history.

[@KM-jk4cv]

The main thing I hated about this B.S drama is that everyone was saying "Look at the Quote-RT's and you'll see racist ones EVERYWHERE".. out of the first 50 RT's I saw, there were 2 racist ones. Sadly, there were 4 accounts I found that were SPAMMING the shit out of replying to people with racist shit.

[@SolitaryLark]

The few real racist folk are always HYPER motivated.

[@thisninja11]

the comments under the tweet had a lot of racism

[@SolitaryLark]

@@thisninja11 and alot of people pissed for legitimate reasons.

[@dizzy_degenerate]

It was mostly in replies to the tweets, not the quote retweets

[@thisninja11]

@@SolitaryLark pissed about racism in the vtuber community and how they let shit slide for their comfort? I agree.

[@Ferg926]

we aren't gate keeping things like gyatt majority of us just want y'all to use it right and not spread misinformation about them. Like don't not go to Urban dictionary to learn about Urban lingo because at this point the people behind it have never been around urban people. It's like using duo lingo to learn a language. It's not gonna be accurate compared to learning from the native speaker of said language.

[@Saincisco]

You're not wrong when you say that the para social game is part of the Vtuber sphere. While you can make up for amazing content , if you target the consumer that wants to be para social for their own fun with a Vtuber you have possibly much more of a chance of making an impact, and faster. I have told people that I am going to make some elaborate stream ideas, they get 90% less engament than me doing an ara ara type of post. And it kinda sucks homie! Lol I just wanted to be creative. But one is giving me income, and the other one isn't.

[@XxTPHXKonanxX]

Subscribed! very mature points I see here! want to see more!

[@AyoSteven.Official]

The problem with parasocial interactions is people take it too far. There is a such thing as an unhealthy parasocial relationship. At the end of the day you can like and support them, but the moment you think they are your actual gf or some close family friend that you know PERSONALLY, that's when it becomes a problem and needs to be checked. There's nothing wrong with a sibling like attachment, but once it goes past that, it's a no-no zone

[@johnninnin]

Not going to lie. I love the editing

[@MrSunDragon]

2:44 lmfao outta context sounds funny af

[@natsumekhun4596]

You made me laugh so much throughout this, great reaction vid and you both had great points honestly.

[@BlooKurby]

I think both Omni and Shizzy have truthful points, but there's a way to go about it rather than bringing in more hate. awful Vtubers and content creators should be held responsible for their literal crimes, I feel there are better means to bringing attention to that then bringing aggression towards a community with general criticism and rather focusing on what matters and how to construct a better space for others in the Vtuber community. give P.O.C Vtubers more access to better assets respectable and suited for them along with recognition (hell, support idie Vtubers in that case since that's where you'll find more diverse crowds and actual people), Ban and exile PDFs permanently from the Vtubing space, establish healthier forms of boundaries and communications between streamers and chat (definitely the hardest one since the internet has a tendency to not listen more often than not, rather than fix the problem at hand. that or leading to a completely different subject to argue about which has no effect on the bigger problems. it's immediate ad hominem if you're not focusing enough on specific individuals being awful or having an unhealthy chat or not taking in the bigger picture of the situation where not all things apply to a generalized comminity.)

[@shadowthief19]

they havent listened to asking nicely. and we should have to ask nicely to not be called slurs or for pdfs to fuck off. boohoo shizzy was aggressive on how he called out racists and slimeballs. they dont deserve civility.

[@Ballsexpuncher]

what crimes are you talking about bruh? edgy jokes? having fans do stuff thats out of their control????? you obviously don't know anything about the vtubing space at all. They are popular for a reason, and that's because they aren't narcissists. But...i'll just let the dislikes of TheGawd's video speak for themselves and you tell me who's really the one who's crazy here 😘

[@slenigirl88]

He's on his villain arc

[@TheeKing7]

You calling him Visecs was still hilarious. I call that a net positive LoL

[@minoibwoi14]

Are there too many demon vtubers? Yes. But they have nothing on the cat vtubers.

[@PRIESTPISTOLS]

Why is everyone in this comment section a huge crybaby about him being loud about it? People are going to be racist to him no matter how he came about it.

[@TheeKing7]

Six is hilarious but the part about them being good at nothing felt like nonsense. You have singers, artists, voice actors, pro gamers, and many more amongst the Vtubing community. They have talents and some are just great entertainers like Filian. Talent of definitely there

[@thisninja11]

"pro gamers"

[@Soloyri]

@@thisninja11 have you heard of esport?

[@magnolt]

if they had talent he wasn't talking to them

[@TheeKing7]

@@magnolt He spoke about them as a whole though.

[@TheeKing7]

@@thisninja11 I'm talking about like Esports.

[@Splatter5524]

I do agree that the things he said in the video was true but I also understand that the complaints he face are for the most part unavoidable due to presentation. -Saying it's the entire vtuber community (except like a few at the end) is generalizing and drags in people that didn't do anything. -His extreme aggression will be met with extreme aggression and he obviously knew it would so I think it's funny that he is saying it's going too far when that's what he wanted. -The mistakes that he fixed were egregious (and can be argued to be racist with the Japanese VTubers) possibly affecting them for no reason. -I bet he makes racist jokes himself against other races freely so it can be seen as hypocritical with his hatred of black jokes (the George Floyd joke was tame let's be honest here). -His two first apologies only angered more people while bringing up stuff that just doesn't work (Really old Demondice album while stretching to call something racist). -Finally, he never actually apologized, he practically said woops and fixed it like it never happened without actually holding himself accountable. Which is even more hypocritical. My biggest problem is the fact that most of what he said is true, but it's true to every community and acting like it's pretty much vtuber exclusive only makes it worse. Way less backlash would have happened if he was not insulting anyone who disagreed/questioned him every 30 seconds and those mistakes never existed (especially with such a serious topic.) EDIT: To clarify the second to last statement (I'm surprised how many people actually read this), I'm not saying you shouldn't talk about it at all. I'm saying you shouldn't act like the problems that exist generally everywhere makes it a major issue in the vtuber community. It become major issues when we go past the obvious problems that are everywhere, examples being youtube and CoryXKenshins video. With how general the problems are, it's hard to be like this is a problem that threatens the lives of every black person that walks into the space without getting a fake ID and fingerprint removals. In short: it's how you say it, not what you say.

[@Splatter5524]

I doubt many will read my essay, but it you do... I'm sorry for using up 1 minute of your lifespan

[@jinnizi]

the best way to deal with obvious issues in the community is completely ignore them and add to it to prove him more right, tooooootally agree (you people are a joke)

[@stark8363]

bro it just seems like ur on the side of the racists bro be fr

[@stark8363]

@@jinnizi yeah this guy is actually just stupid and hypocritical himself LMAO

[@ZolPsyko]

How do you politely point out racism and bigotry? Hes meeting them with the same energy and admitted to not taking the high road. Also, if it dont apply, let it fly. Dont sweat it on the long message. These things should be discussed.

[@illuminati3561]

Am I losing my mind or something? The topic of his video was "Everything wrong with Vtubers" The parts about race and racism had a small section in it in and was only called into question, when he used out of context clips Vtubers saying Japanese and Chinese words that sounded like the N word. He later admitted that was wrong, the other outrage came from him soft doxxing other vtubers. Had he not done that or atleast spoke about it in the correct manner i'd wager he would have much backlash. I'm black(i'll post a vid to prove it lol) and even I know he was tripping. Sure you don't have to like or even agree with them using the N word,dont but again your POINT will ALWAYS be lost if you GO ABOUT IT WRONG. Also Pulling the race card when you were called out for using out of context cliips and splicing together clips that made predominantely non english speaking vtubers look racist is wild, and well kinda racist just saying. 🤷 He admitted he thought it was funny and admitted it was wrong, so dont call me a liar and act like it didn't happen. TLDR; This only became a "black people" issue because he couldn't apologzie for his mistakes and which was the out of context clips and the soft doxxing. He also implied that its the entire vtube rscene and fans that allowed or was okay with racism which isn't true. Like Omni mentioned, he fucked up in some places, and thats why people are mad.

[@tokyonotghoul9066]

they did say it. They say it a lot then blame it on bad English or not knowing what it is.

[@rodolfotolentino5718]

That's his problem of him bringing a discussion. it's like putting shit on his cake rather than a cherry

[@NiohArcadia]

Shizzy is trying to apply standards you would have from the Rap and Hiphop community and representing yourself/culture is highly respected to the Vtuber. It doest really work but like he said he not the end all be all.

[@jesselockhart1230]

Funny thing is the one and only Hololiver that had Melanin and garnered quite a following, their talent had to graduate. o7 Sana

[@SolitaryLark]

For medical reasons but yeah

[@jdudbdjxb7687]

1:41:20 Totally agree, I think that just goes to show that those type of people don't actually care about victims. They WISH that someone got violated because to them, THEIR OWN feelings matter more

[@SolitaryLark]

50:00 shizzy really don’t even know what he’s talking about. People gave Enna shit forever for that joke.

[@qwota4344]

Nah he’s right as well, people did give her some trouble over it but the vtuber community just dgaf when it comes to racism on black people(or straight up celebrate it). And I do remember how one if the biggest arguments for her case was that she didn’t know which goes further to show mfs don’t give a shit cause who came up with dumbass excuse?😭

[@AyoSteven.Official]

Maybe you just have terrible comprehension skills because if you actually understood it this comment wouldn't exist

[@LoganPerdomo]

Evil Rises when good men do nothing

[@Timidogbumplurker]

Yes deku and all might was absolutely parasocial- he made a child eat part of himself to be a hero and that said ability shattered him if what happened actually got out in real life we would have another Michael jackson

[@purelynickx]

yeah, i know shizzy from waay back, we was pretty tight. im pretty sure hes just clowning.The mans a Goof

[@deathserpent9747]

Get your mans bro. He dont know what he gettin himself into with these crazy ass lolicon mfers

[@paselitoru]

Tbh it just felt like since he knew he has no personality or talent as a V tuber he made his mark by making his race his whole persona and since he had nothing new to bring to the table he decided to go the controversial route. He may be a "goof" but he isn't clowning around. He wanted to get infamy since he isn't worth a shit.

[@SantrellMason]

@@paselitoru I feel like you never watch him before..

[@paselitoru]

@@SantrellMason First impressions are a son of a bitch. If you put your worst foot forward it makes people think you're garbage. If he wanted people to watch him then he shouldn't have made his first foray into the vtubing space being trash.

[@Sasukeluvzme13]

16:30 you might’ve been joking but in case you weren’t; 🗣️Not everyone wants to sell off their integrity but still want to enjoy certain spaces. It shouldn’t even be a normality… as I’ve grown up, it’s kinda weird it’s still and even more exaggerated in majority manga and anime with most targeting the younger generation, and this is coming from someone who loves a good rack.

[@jamalkeys36]

VI Secs thankfully exposed that whole smash thing, but still... it all leads back to Smash. A dark time.. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@MrLionBack]

The main message of the video is true and the amount of insults and slurs I've read these past few days are unjustfiable and appalling; this should be a medium that provides anyone a safe space to express themselves, as long someone is respectfull of others. I've had my qualms about his video, such as the initial clips which then got edited out or some jokes that didn't really land on me, but that's mostly personal preference lol. Disagreeing with something is fine; being a dick and spamming racist messages is not. I do agree that the points presented in the video pertain most of the internet culture or the "nerdy" space in general.

[@TheeKing7]

People really gotta stop making loli an age thing. Loli is a body type that many many Women have. My wife is an oppai loli LoL. I was perfectly fine being a lolicon until the Internet fucked it up by changing it from short and adorable to minors. I wouldn't feel comfortable making this msg rn if there weren't popular Vtubers speaking out about this too because everyone I know irl knows lolis aren't minors but in the Internet its completely the opposite. Hopefully people stop shaming men for liking a body type that many adult women have. I feel bad for the women that are built like that and in the Vtubing community sometimes.

[@MilkshakeLaughter]

I agree that women with more petite body types shouldn’t be ashamed for sure, but most of the lolicons we see on the internet aren’t going “I like cute and small women” they’re going “I like kids and kid like characters and it’s okay cuz they’re fictional” which technically it is okay since they’re fictional, but still extremely weird. I’ve seen multiple lolicons post images of actual children from anime and such sexualizing them and being generally weird😭🙏 which is why lolicons are deemed as weird asf. I love small cute women, they love children who they can freely sexualize cuz they don’t exist. Yk?

[@MilkshakeLaughter]

Should also mention they don’t just like characters who LOOK young, they like characters who look and ACT like children, making it weirder

[@FrootOG]

Idk man it’s just still very weird…Why have relations with someone who looks small like a child anyways? Just odd…

[@thisninja11]

Don't you think its fucking weird to call a grown adult woman a loli

[@FrootOG]

@@thisninja11Exactly, that’s like weird as shit.

[@AgentSephiroth]

Who cares if what he's talking about applies generally.... In this case, he is talking SPECIFICALLY to the Vtubers, not whatever everyone else wants to apply to the conversation. That's called deflecting and it's usually done by the people targeted not the spectators.... smh

[@__BlankStudios]

Would have been something if he himself wasn't contributing to the very issues he was pointing out. Also allegedly having history of making transphobic and homophobic comments and being friends with an alleged predator only makes all of what he said don't seem genuine at all.

[@Amirifiz]

So if you befriend someone and later you and everyone else finds out at the same time that they're a predator. Does that make you guilty by association?

[@IngeniousGhosts]

​@Amirifiz depends on how much "later" you find out they're a predator.

[@chozengaming8547]

Who's the predator?

[@GiornoGiovannaJJBA]

​​@@Amirifiz If you're a normal person and use common sense? Nope, that "logic" of guilt by association doesn't stand. But if, like in this case, dude digs 5-10 years old clips (and maybe even edits them out of context) to prove his point, then ppl calling him out by digging 5-10 year old info about him... An eye for an eye I guess.

[@IngeniousGhosts]

@@GiornoGiovannaJJBA I mean he set the rules of the fight he picked. What's worst is some of people who are finding these old clips and posts aren't editing them to make them seem bad. So in a way they come off better then he does.

[@tabley1873]

Visecs,, VI Seconds.... i shoulda known bro has been cooking since day one

[@Jimmy-xe5jd]

Damn he must’ve burned it then because HE AINT COOKING SHIT

[@KugoPlaysx]

@@Jimmy-xe5jdyou’re the problem 😂

[@chriss.249]

​@Jimmy-xe5jd If he burned it that means he over cooked it😂 How'd u botch that?

[@Jimmy-xe5jd]

@@chriss.249 sorry do I know you?

[@chriss.249]

@@Jimmy-xe5jd My bad, I left to get the milk Here u go🥛

[@retix1892]

Is his vtuber mod3l an inkling?

[@mjangelvortex]

Looks like his dreads are snakes, not tentacles. So seems more of a Medusa inspired monster.

[@sailor_mythra1323]

Bro as an Aussie the chicken one went way over my head for a sec. Could someone explain why southern blacks (or all blacks) stereotypically eat chicken???

[@mjangelvortex]

In America freed slaves started growing and making their own food. But a lot of white people in that time period didn't like that and would make things like political cartoons and minstrel shows (with white actors in blackface) depicting black people as dumb, lazy, and dangerous and a lot of those cartoons and shows would depict them with watermelon or fried chicken. And after a while, the stereotype just kinda stuck around.

[@bunkyyy]

Im not even gonna lie, what are we mad about?? Everything he said is a valid opinion, the reaction to this got me side-eyeing the vtuber community even more because they did exactly what he says they do in his video. I dont even like vtubing but i will def give him a follow/support, he seems like a genuine guy

[@mikeguy6069]

Well the jp vtubers aren't ever gonna change since most of them are protected by the corporate veil, and also can't speak English. So no big enough stink will ever reach their noses (it's sad, but that's the reality). I think the video has a good message. And, although the delivery will make people want to counter with aggression, Shizzy said what most people are thinking. Racism exists in every corner of the internet (one way or another), but you can tell he wants the vtuber community to be better than that.

[@AceUkiyo-YoutubeisBuggy]

Nah he actually wants people to look away from his friendships with other pe d os and abusing his girlfriend.

[@JTVega]

There is somethings I will agree with him on, there are somethings I will disagree with him. What he said It's a reflection of what anyone goes through on the internet he got upset with how the internet treats him and others. I did watch the orginal video he deleted the part of Amelia Watson face reveal clip which they accused him of doxxing which I don't see a address to her house.

[@SolitaryLark]

Whether it’s doxx or not he’s been here three years he KNOWS you don’t fucking show faces like that.

[@R1versEnd]

he isnt jelly, he just respects himself more then to sell himself for sexual intentions not everyone likes that

[@Chococodile]

Trojan War started to prove who had the better baddies

[@_Brillo]

I didn't know this channel existed! Thanks!!

[@ZoopLord]

I love you Omni but so much of this video felt like you projecting or saying "yea its bad but we all know its bad so there's nothing we can do" and that just doesn't sit right with me

[@OmniAfterDark]

okay

[@marlinmurrell620]

25:10 Among Us?!

[@onlycompetentscoot]

Now that I've seen the video. I agree with Omni that his complaints about Vtubers are the same everywhere. Because it's adjacent to the anime fanbase it'll share issues. Because they are still streamers, of course it'll have the same issues. There was nothing wrong with what Shizzy was calling out. However, he seemed more than happy to kick the hornet's nest. Did he deserve what he's getting? Probably not, but what the fuck did he expect? Forget vtubing, how has he been a content creator for so long and not know most of these places are like? Also, why is it always Mori Calliope catching these strays?

[@Sasukeluvzme13]

So just because the complaints are the same, doesn’t mean he shouldn’t talk about them? Just seems like a lot of people trying to downplay the facts in this video to help sustain the reputation of your favorites in your head because if you really believed what he was saying to be true, you’d have to reevaluate your own morals. Mori caught stays because she thinks she has to be “male, black, or hood enough” to be in a rap space… amongst other things… It scares me we aren’t as accepting as we wanna act a lot of times about people who look different.

[@onlycompetentscoot]

​@@Sasukeluvzme13 Shizzy has the right to voice his complaints and how he wants to do it. I don't think it's wrong to do so. I even think that even if the video was more serious he would still be unfortunately harrassed so much. I don't downplay the issues myself, but seeing people do it is usually because they saw or heard second-hand small snippets of the video and took Shizzy's jokes as an attack on their character as vtuber fans. I'm an anime fan first, so I've already made peace with the fact that I enjoy a hobby made for and by Japanese audiences first.

[@esosaodiase4482]

@@Sasukeluvzme13I don’t think he’s saying he shouldn’t talk about them but I think everyone and their mother would’ve not had an issue if he represented the issue without just saying vtubers do it. Because that’s misleading as to what the actual issue is, if dude knows it happens in all other communities that should have been brought up instead of not at all? He didn’t portray his point in a proper light and whether it be intentionally or not he absolutely made the video in a way that demonizes just the vtuber community for things that exist in quite literally every community -_-. It’s not like vtubers do it more , in fact I’d be willing to wager it happens significantly less in this community than in other communities. Everyone is just confused as to why he just addressed Vtubing in general. It doesn’t come off right….

[@gravity1175]

Oh shit I used to listen to his music

[@Cherryblossom-ink]

His not wrong in a lot of ways based on what he says his not wrong 🤔

[@Tomcatfromtheswamp]

1:02:18 after what we learned about his ex his statement here makes a lot of sense

[@madamebunbun3479]

Honestly it seems like he's roasting not only the community but himself in return because he's probably done nearly all the things that he discusses no surprise twitter got salty tho When you laugh at his comment about too many demons but you look at your vtube model and its too a demon ☠😂

[@FearlessFighterAkida]

My whole thing is that you can talk about and critizie the community for a bunch of stuff. But as someone who wasn't familiar with him, he came in swinging on random people and firing random shots. His video came in like he wanted to just stir the pot, talk shit and get attention fo himself while using an issue that can be considered a genuine issue within the community. As a black vtuber myself who doesn't know him, he just made himself look like a snake who doesn't care who he pisses off or whatever to get attention for himself and then when he gets the smoke he ordered keeps stirring the pot and acting like he isn't playing a part of it.

[@Sasukeluvzme13]

Like he said; you can say anything but he isn’t a liar. I also don’t know what you mean by “snake.” A snake implies someone who hangs around fake like they enjoy something and then turn on that idea. He has been this way and just seems to be very outspoken about the normalized problems in the VTUBER industry. Everyone who cares talks about it but he is the only one to do it with such aggression but he never lied about how he felt. He just never made such a video about said opinions til now.

[@LeAFyromster]

@@Sasukeluvzme13 if you join an asian community, you dont go hating it for being asian. just like if asian people enjoy US hip hop, they dont hate it for being from black culture. he hating on the WHOLE industry for not being black enough even though it was made by Japan and IS in the same industry as anime. NERD CULTURE. him and his hateful toxicity is why nerds MADE the communiy what it is, to get away from thugs and asshole who hate them for being nerds. hip hop artists and the black community has gate keeped hip hop for generations and now this random small indie vtuber is throwing hate about like its a normal hip hop drama. this community is made up of nerds and anime lovers for a reason. he band wagoned Vtubing and now hates it for not Pandering to him and his skin color. ITS Vtubing. MAKE YOUR OWN MODEL. Make your community bigger. white people didnt promote hip hop but it got big, so why he hating on asian culture for being popular and throwing accusations around like he throwing pennies to bums. he just a rage baiting troll who thinks it is funny to hate everyone but cant take the heat. He called out people as pedo's when he had history with actual pedo's. grifters being grifters. a tourist in the community. token person who wanted to make money off of popular nerd culture but hate everyone in it.

[@micah459]

I mean he's coming with somewhat warranted energy. If your community is full of racists, I'm not pulling punches just to make you feel better. Also, Shizzy just naturally talks like that so he's just being himself. Lastly, you didn't say he was lying so 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@thedeed8740]

@@LeAFyromsterthat’s stupid as hell. Respect the culture obviously. But I don’t think Asian culture is being racist to black people and if that is the the culture then FUCK the culture. Your comment boils down to suck it up and let the community beat on you because they created the space. Also the nerdy community wasn’t made to keep “thugs” as you like to call us out. It was to bring people of all walks of life together to enjoy the geeky things that are produced and you don’t need to talk or look a certain way to be allowed to enjoy those things.

[@FearlessFighterAkida]

@@Sasukeluvzme13 By "a snake" I mean someone that basically uses drama to fuel their own career. In this case, I say that because it doesn't feel like he actually cares about racism within the community, he's just using it to bolster his own career as opposed to pointing out a genuine problem.

[@micah459]

I get that people don't like the meme editing but this is popular in the black youtube community so yall probably just consume much black comedic content. Also, Omni calling Shizzy jealous was kinda wild because he made valid points that many people have a problem with. That doesn't make us jealous. Lastly, Shizzy didn't even dox the Vtuber people keep mentioning because she's willing showed her own face publicly multiple times before.

[@nesmario123]

ack time to clear this up... it was a hololive member's previous life and apparently that is not a good thing in hololive's case. and vtuber corps are very unhappy with that sort of stuff.

[@micah459]

@@nesmario123 that's still not Doxxing because anyone can find her face by a simple Google search. Also, what the hell is a "previous life?"

[@whiten4635]

I got two things to say. 1. I watch a lot of blsck youtubers and commentator and it's true they do use meme editing and it ain't a problem most of the time. In Shizzy case the thing is that sometimes he uses the meme editing really well and it's pretty funny but other times it disrupts the follow of the video as you have to sit and watch a 3-10 second clip from a meme when your tryna listen to what shizzy has to say. I feel like a good example of black commentators that do meme editing well are people like kneecaps, cj dachamp and tommynfg. They meme edit but the meme it's self is silent and their commentary is still being played over the meme that is being shown. It's consistent and the flow of the video isn't lost. And even if they make the viewer watch a full meme clip, it's probably once or twice maybe three times. But in shizzy case his video filled with it and it slows down or disrupt the flow of his commentary 2. I think omni was mostly joking about the whole him being jealous. Omni was just poking fun at his commentary and stated he himself has a deep enough voice to do asmr and called him jealous whilst being playful about it

[@KingAwesomeOutputs]

Omni I'm working out to this video!

[@OmniAfterDark]

good work

[@Corrupted_Oberon.]

Can someone do me a tl:dr pls

[@dannyfenton1688]

I don’t watch vtubers but I didn’t hear Shizzy say anything wrong. What’s the problem again?

[@mwelite1706]

Basically he used out of context clips of japanese vtubers either saying japanese and chinese words that sound like the n word, faced doxxed a vtuber, and basically generalized the vtuber community as racist. (Now yes there are racist people in the community, but generalizing everyone is a good way to make enemies out of people willing to listen.)

[@dannyfenton1688]

@@mwelite1706 In his vids after the initial one he apologized for bringing the Japanese/chinese ones up. There's no excuse for the American ones. He got rid the vtubers real face but I was told that it was public information. That only seems to be an unwritten rule within the community. I don't watch vtubers and even I knew he wasn't talking about everybody; however the twitter responses proved his point. I get that his delivery was rough around the edges but of some of the fans truly cared about him generalizing then he shouldn't have gotten those racists responses back. It's a BAD look.

[@mwelite1706]

@@dannyfenton1688 here’s the thing: When you give inaccurate information intentionally at the start don’t be surprised when people disregard the video. For the western vtubers Kiara is European so she doesn’t have as much knowledge about the history and Filian gave an apology in their same videos and with Filian while the joke was distasteful it doesn’t mean you hate black people, if I made a joke about Bruce Lee it doesn’t mean I hate Asians. Also I had looked on his twitter and honestly I had only seen about 4 racist reply’s and it was in a tweet of someone archiving it, so I’m in doubt.

[@dannyfenton1688]

What inaccurate info was there at the start? I’m glad they apologized but I’m sure he didn’t make it a point in the vid just because it was only two vtubers who said some distasteful stuff. Even Omni and some other people responding to the vid agreed with him and said that it’s a problem within the community. Like he also said in the vid, most of the people who are forgiving the distasteful jokes aren’t black 🤷🏾‍♂️.I’m glad you didn’t see as many of the racist comments as he did but just because you saw only 4 replies doesn’t mean more doesn’t exist. A lot of them were probably sent through dm and that’s probably why you didn’t see everything.

[@dannyfenton1688]

Lastly there were people lying on him saying that Shizzy was a part of a smash scandal just because he was friends with some of the people before they were called out. All of this because he brought up some problems he had with the vtuber community? This is weirdo behavior.

[@Klaxynd]

I can say Shizzy is definitely NOT about that underage crowd. People are grasping at straws for anything and talking out their behind because they don’t like it when black people are loud. I guarantee you if it was a Caucasian putting out that same type of energy that Shizzy was, he would be hailed as a hero.

[@Ballsexpuncher]

No? they would be called out all the same. Remember Britany Venti?

[@TheeKing7]

Ngl, what you said to that petite woman was low-key messed up. You basically told her she likely looks like a teenage boy and should be sus of people attracted to her. I'm sure it wasn't intentional but it was harsh, very harsh in my opinion.

[@blargh3519]

he straight up doxed a person and tried to police people for speaking their own language it doesnt matter if hes doing a bit its snake behavior

[@mayleesaotomai]

He didn’t dox It was on KZbin for a YEAR

[@SpideyfanX]

Exactly! His opinions are invalid the moment he decided to dox Amelia.

[@utopes]

@@SpideyfanX The minute he decided to… post an image of a 2-word google search? 🥶

[@blargh3519]

@mayleesaotomai other people have done it so clearly it's fine obvs /s he's attaching a real persons face while blasting them for being racist on the internet what the fuck do you think is going to happen ? If she wanted to attach her face to ame she'd do it, just because it's easy to doxx someone doesn't make it OK. It was fucked and doxxing when it happened to kenji the idea it's any different now is dumb asf

[@MilkshakeLaughter]

@@mayleesaotomaiI found videos of her from 3 years ago actually, her face been up on yt for a MINUTE

[@wonderingjibril1210]

So let me get this straight the man calls out the v tuber community for being racist, and they attack him with racism and people are saying he poked the harness nest. What type of sense does that make if they are in fact a group of races and I'm not calling everyone in that community that but if the majority of them are attacking someone and using racial slurs to try to disprove his point or make him take down the video what the hell does that prove? This is just weird and I'm happy I never went into that community because that's horrible😮 hopefully more people call them out and work their nerve and pull them out their little comfortable zone of ignorance because that is wild.

[@SolitaryLark]

I mean some people did yeah but plenty are just attacking him(me) with how shit his points are.

[@TheLuigiufc]

Didnt he kick the hornets nest by doxxing a vtuber's face?

[@SolitaryLark]

@@TheLuigiufc that was the biggest issue people had (among many)

[@TheLuigiufc]

@@SolitaryLark That was mine as well. For 24 hours people were defending this dude and I didnt watch the video so O had no opinion on it. But after I did man I had so many problems with his points, and then I was like wasnt this dude on the smash cypher. Dude made it out like a diss track but nah nah it came from the top of the dome or written as a song

[@AwesomeFerret25]

​@@TheLuigiufcwhat problems did you have with his points?

[@zypher9690]

The amount of people trying their hardest to pin this dude for something as if it’ll invalidate any of the stuff he said that they never addressed. Deflection deflection deflection.

[@jamescordensnumber1simp209]

Shizzy better be scared the vtuber fandom might roll up with their hot pockets and mobility scooters.

[@jdudbdjxb7687]

They just might shit their pants from how mad they are

[@callibor3119]

The Gawd said “All of ya’ll been running away form your consequences, so I’m going to bring all of them right to you!” ゴゴゴゴゴゴ！ That is some straight up virtual John Wick, Matrix sh1t if I ever seen one.

[@Klaxynd]

1:55:20 CAP! That’s gotta be cap right? There’s no way that any online community as big as FF14 is going to be that nice. You weren’t called a single slur? Given a single inflammatory remark? Even after saying you only plan on staying one day? If that’s true, that proves two things: 1. God exists 2. God’s favorite MMO is FF14 Edit: never mind. I guess you got got.

[@pokehero77]

I dont like the video mainly because hes making such broad statements that apply to internet culture in its entirety and then say, “Its specifically an issue with vtubers.” Its just completely disingenuous and unproductive to the potential conversation, which just ends up making him look worse. And then theres the whole part about sex appeal and playing a character both of which are not nearly as common as he claims it to be. Its just blatantly false. Look up the most popular vtubers and just think, how many of them are seriously playing a character or seriously leaning into sex appeal. Theres some, but its not like theres a disproportionate amount when compared to regular streamers. Most of them are just people wearing skinsuits who act just like any other streamer.

[@retix1892]

We love you blackman

[@watrmelun9427]

Goku exists 😡

[@taipolar333]

damn, you really got noob groomed

[@SaturnSnapple]

Here’s the truth. Yes most of this can be applied to the internet generally. But it also applies to the vtuber community. And that’s the community he’s apart of. Wanting your community to be less racist and trying to make it better by calling it out is just good practice. Another thing on the Ame thing. I want to say this has me confused but honestly I think I get it. First off, the Ame N word discourse happened like 3 years ago and was VERY public. Like the video of her saying even back then had STUPID amounts of views, and we all kind of just decided personally how we each felt. So what I really think got people mad is, They didn’t know about the clip and are mad they got exposed to it, Or they’ve seen the clip and are mad it’s being brought back up So personal bias here, I’m black, and I also like Ame and watch her on and off casually. That being said, he didn’t dox her, and I think bringing her up in this context is totally valid. Even so he still took it out, which he honestly did not have to do. That makes me respect him even more.

[@Ty_Jac]

He lives in New York. It all makes sense now. Probably shouldn't take him too srsly.

[@Milla4life2]

As a Caucasian male it’s very corny to see non dark skin people using AAVE, but it’s also not my place to get mad at.

[@kainzor100]

Tbf I appear white but am mixed and grew up in the bronx and just talk like the ppl i grew up around but its kinda a case by case thing

[@Milla4life2]

@@kainzor100 100%

[@pianoteddybear]

1:22:39 Globie has a giraffe vtuber

[@starkatattack-5533]

Ion think he lied tho. Shizzy's video is pretty amusing. Lol Honestly, it'd be nice to see more vtubers with more melanin.

[@bungle_scrungle]

Shizzy's VTuber model is adorable and I love the inclusion of the Long Knuckles with the snakes 🐍

[@rinoiya]

14:44 did he know chat?

[@TheeKing7]

Ngl, what you said to that petite woman was low-key messed up.

[@HaLire]

i think you got caught by ragebait man

[@Chococodile]

Omni should make a rhino vtuber

[@keelansteele8138]

Why am I only just now finding out you have a second channel? I feel like I just won the lottery so many unwatched vids after being subbed to your main for years 😭

[@majormlbfan70]

Omni here wanna be a woman bruh pause Stop self reporting bro 22:01

[@OmniAfterDark]

g

[@chozengaming8547]

Oh shit I ain't know who the fuck Visecs was in the last video but it's the boy Shizzy. Lemme go sub

[@RipperRoo92]

Even though Visecs speaking facts. It's just these parasocial fans are super down-bad and insane.

[@ryanl6037]

y’all saying he’s on his villain arc but he’s a hero imo

[@xSoporific1]

Amazing video/reactions

[@SolitaryLark]

1:35:59 absolutely agree. Got some cool as folks I watch who are colored. No problem with black people. I got a problem with HIM and I don’t want him here.

[@AwesomeFerret25]

What's your problem with him?

[@SolitaryLark]

@@AwesomeFerret25 bro face doxx, uses Japanese not knowing shit as racism. Had tons of blatantly wrong info so either didn’t do his research or is a liar. Everyone called out Enna she apologized. He implied otherwise. Demondice he implied racist lyrics. Was literally her expressing her EXPERIENCE in the rap scene not her views. People didn’t take a little white girl serious. Tons of random other bullshit. Don’t do voices?!?! Why what’s the point of the model if you can’t play with it.

[@SolitaryLark]

@@AwesomeFerret25 typed big reply looks like it nuked. Don’t know if I’m gonna type all that again

[@lothar7596]

He's a content creator. makeing content off the haters.

[@raiHo15]

I'm backing this dude. He's not lying, man.

[@bluehornet632]

The other person has to be a LIVING BEING to be parasocial. Goku has never existed in reality. People have admired characters and fictional being like gods for centuries. Thats not the same as believing you know the ins and outs of peoples LIVES and believing you know what they will and wont do.

[@bitviper3430]

I have no clue who this guy is but he’s instantly earned my respect and a new viewer

[@g.fonseca6402]

He failed in most ways, called everyone in the community racist( far from being true) now people that came after that talk about racism in vtuber will be compared to him, and he deleted coments and tweets that just hurts his message even more, F hope someone better comes along to talk about this.

[@toku5397]

idk man when i see like 50 different people calling him a monkyy in the replies then rhat says a lot abt the community

[@NiadHGR]

​@SUPERMavicare you even in the loop? because if you reverse everything into its reverse version it would be closer to the truth

[@Dr.Duck22]

He definitely didn't call everyone racist lmfao

[@toku5397]

@SUPERMavic thats just literally untrue that nigga never been to mexico and he did defend himself in a vid published to his twit. He used to be friends with people before they were exposed for heinous shit but he cut them off. lots of ppl in the gaming space were friends with those ppl as well. Are all those other people groomers or are they only groomers when u dont like them.

[@toku5397]

@SUPERMavic nigga just got on here lying

[@ma.2089]

I’ve heard this guy called Sayu a child diddler and never apologized (unlike Kenji). So uhhh idk how I feel about him lol

[@AgentSephiroth]

doesnt matter how you feel about him. the world doesnt revolve around peoplesopinions of people on the internet. Instead of not knowing how to feel go touch grass, get a job something constructive ffs

[@zypher9690]

People didn’t like the way he delivered his message but people have tried the pacifist route and got chewed out. It’s only when someone came with the same energy that they started buckling and getting mad.

[@Goodboy-gd1wl]

Why does his video only targets the Vtuber community, the stuff that he said in the video could be applied to any community. The problem is that they're mad because he's trying to make the vtuber community look bad. And the things is every community has its bad batches.

[@Kabu642]

I mean him calling out the problems isn't what makes the community look bad people would just take it the same as other communities it's the sheer amount of people trying to deflect the problems in the community that is making it look really bad. It gives the impression that the behavior is something to be defended within the community rather than denounced.

[@Goodboy-gd1wl]

@@Kabu642 I get what you're saying but the video it doesn't sound like he's addressing problems in the community. He's making sound like the whole vtuber community are like the most evilest people in the world. Because of that video a lot of people are defending him adn they think that vtuber the vtuber community needs to be cancelled. He should make it more of a criticism video instead of a stand up routine.

[@Kabu642]

@Goodboy-gd1wl I don't get why he has to? It's not like he was just spreading lies for the sake of it and it seemed pretty clear that the video would have came and gone with mostly minimal impact possibly even seen mostly as a joke there's only so much 1 video can do without someone super influential behind it. But do you know who gave the video that influence? That credibility? The people typing out all those racist comments, the people defending those people saying he brought it on himself, the people constantly saying well every community is like that, and the people telling him how he should have addressed the situation so as to make the community look better. It's true alot of communities suffer from similar issues, even if not all in the same ways, but there's usually more people calling that out as well within the community and so far I've seen little to none of that from people who consider themselves part of that community so far just different degrees of deflection. To summarize it wasn't really the video but the response that's damaging the rep

[@Goodboy-gd1wl]

@@Kabu642 People are gonna respond because of the video because the video isn’t a criticism video it’s a rage bait stand up routine. And the fans aren’t inevitably gonna let it go because he has a decent following and those people are gonna get the wrong idea about vtuber community. Also the racist replies that the creator has been getting, that’s a example of the bad batch of the vtuber community. Real vtuber fans do not associate or condone that. I get the message that’s he’s trying to send but it’s all about how you deliver the message. It’s like seeing your friend gain weight and instead of saying “hey man I’m very concerned for your health”, you actually said “All that food you eat makes you a fatass, you’re starting a like a fatass motherf*cker”. And to tell you the truth some vtubers fans have got the message( you just gotta look hard enough on twitter) but the thing is a response will be inevitable.

[@retix1892]

Idk whats with that vtuber model but i agree what hes sayin Someone has to do it and that someone is him

[@allenwalker957]

Damn, this guy got a fan out of me, this shit was funny af 😂