He Killed Someone For A Free Breakfast

[@theburnfactory8599]

Why did I think this said “breastfed killer”. I disappointed myself.

[@kelseycain3469]

I thought he killed for a free "basket" so...

[@gLobbZ]

Dyslexics unite!!

[@noushakitty4174]

I read that too 😂 at the beginning😂

[@gaymer42069]

Homelander

[@_Kuma_]

You’re right that there’s a big difference between “I wish (that person) would die/I could kill (that person)” and having a plan. That’s a huge leap. One is said in anger as a passing thing (still not okay), but not meant to be taken as a direct threat on someone’s life… Much like with taking your own life, there’s a difference between “I don’t want to live anymore/I want to die” and having a thorough plan of how, when, where, etc. It’s sooo sad that this and so many other cases could’ve been prevented if only someone picked up on all of the obvious cues.

[@killjoyprose6802]

Is intent a new concept in China?

[@storymaster21]

Humans are fragile but sturdy beings though, generally, you do not need a "plan" (as per the phrase one is asked about and uses) to end the life of yourself.

[@haruphobia]

sociopaths and psychopaths. I have ASPD (The "sociopathic disorder") I have emotions but like people who bottle emotions, they aren't present like normal and feel numbed, I have a lack of empathy for others and tend to not feel saddened or bothered by normal things because I just don't care, not even for myself tbh. I use to be very blunt and would say super rude opinions out loud or have bursts of anger over small stupid things because I never thought when people said they were offended that they meant it, to me I considered them "sensitive" just because I myself didn't feel bothered. I express emotions but do not feel them nearly as much because they are distant and foggy. It is hard to explain from my own view, the emotions are there, but extremely distant. I was really manipulative because of my ability to express emotions and not be bothered by the cause of my actions, I use to lie and steal a lot just to get my way and befriended people if I wanted something from them, getting extremely angry at them if things didnt go my way and having tantrums, and to me for the longest time that was just normal. (this was before therapy, I would say, Therapy helped me see I was wrong) I have no remorse for what I did, but I know not to do it now and corrected. I do not know much about psychopaths, but there is a saying that separates the two; Sociopaths are hotheaded, and blunt. Psychopaths are "cold-hearted", calm, and calculating.

[@jayjonesrgaming]

Antisocial Personality Disorder is the formal terminology for sociopathy

[@mountainaccident2001]

exactly. there arent any real differences between a psychopath and a sociopath besides social context bc theyre both words for the same disorder. i wish pig would stop perpetuating this.

[@psyphersky]

Dude was stupidly close to getting away with it at the drowning route, imagine that! He would've had tons of people vouching that 'he's a nice guy he'd _never_ do that!', plus when he claims he attempted to save her that would've reaffirmed everyone else's statements. Jeebus man...

[@kenny42069]

"Psychopathy" isn't something with a very solid definition, and can refer to a wide variety of people on the anti-social personality spectrum. You're absolutely correct in saying there's a lot of grey area. Though most are characterized by traits like a shallow affect, they don't all have a compulsion to kill necessarily. Many are high-functioning and nonviolent. They COULD kill someone and potentially feel nothing at all, but many won't because they have some cognitive understanding of the consequences of doing so. Some are charismatic and charming, others are bumbling criminals who are quickly arrested because they couldn't conceive the consequences of the crimes their lack of conscience would cause. In addition, they're not all emotionless robots either, it's not something that is set in stone. Some may feel certain emotions albeit to a much lesser degree. Biology is rarely absolute, and the human mind is a lot more complex than the outdated definitions used to describe anti-social people. It should also be noted that "psychopathy" isn't actually a proper medical term used by any organization. That terminlogy is mostly just used on TV and movies.

[@carnuatus]

The whole "emotionless" thing is a misnomer, because even for those who don't feel a deep breadth of emotion, especially those who become criminals... Many of them have deep, deep rage.

[@hagelslag9312]

@@carnuatus Yeah I always understood they're not devoid of emotion themselves, they just lack the empathy to care about anyone but themselves on an emotional level? But they can still be angry or sad.

[@kenzie4217]

Sociopathy is hella vague. It could refer to a mass murderer, but it could also easily apply to the average capitalist.

[@TheReluctantVlogger]

It has become very irritating for me to hear people continually speculate about why serial killers/psychopaths do what they do. There are many questions we’ll never have answers to, and this is absolutely one of them. It’s an inevitable part of the human condition and there isn’t any way to truly understand, in any meaningful sense, what motivates those actions.

[@DreadnoughtHvor]

It's not entirely true to say psychopathy isn't used by anyone. Psychiatric and psychological organizations don't, it's still used in criminal justice settings and is an active field of research.

[@lemursteaks]

The proper term for both psychopathy and sociopathy is Antisocial Personality disorder, not whatever list that one person suggested.

[@missvoorhees7964]

actually no,apd is a spectrum. the correct terms to differentiate ARE psycho/socio paths as the terms are psycho/socio pathy. don't speak on things you don't get,you're reaching and its sad tbh.

[@lemursteaks]

@@missvoorhees7964 no I’m right, Google the DSM term for psychopathy and it’ll say antisocial personality disorder. You’re right, it is a spectrum, but psychopathy and sociopathy are in that spectrum. Also what a needlessly rude and unkind comment, wow.

[@zeallust8542]

@@missvoorhees7964 Those terms are literally not used in any medical or psychiatric setting. Maybe you should know what youre talking about before telling other people to know what theyre talking about

[@joseyhopkinson9214]

At least she got to say goodbye and I love you to her mother. So many don’t get that chance let alone to apologize for anything they’ve done.

[@BloodMarket]

Pig asking if a chatter has ever been strangled sounded way more threatening than he probably meant... Or maybe he meant it that way lmao. Either way it caught me off guard. "....Have you ever been strangled?"

[@afinch1608]

When I had a bad breakup with a friend at that age, they made all of our mutual friends ignore me completely. They were my best friend then suddenly pretended like I didn't exist at all, it made me feel terrible.

[@_Kuma_]

I’m sorry that that happened to you, but at least then you knew who were your real friends. Hope you’re doing better now!

[@missvoorhees7964]

its a form of isolation. they want you to have nobody so you'd have nobody to turn to. they will often spread rumours,they'll always twist the truth,it's what abusers do. you're better off out of that situation

[@missvoorhees7964]

@@_Kuma_ the friends were manipulated against them,it's not the friends fault,it's how they were conditioned to be

[@Sneezieanus]

Psychopathy is not always the murderer violence etc, it is valid to down talk psycho and socio paths in this light, but the actual medical definition of the mental illness is not nearly as bad as its stigma. I feel like that was what was trying to be explained. Diagnosed with psychopathy if it wasn’t obvious. I do love pig and all the videos, no hate or malcontent from me.

[@proffesorspiderlastname5654]

Yeah, isn't it that alot of people are medically psychopaths (more than you would think) but not all of them end up with the murderous tendencies.

[@Sneezieanus]

@@proffesorspiderlastname5654 Yeah I think so, but I’m not an expert so don’t @ me. I know there are a lot of cases in which the tendencies get misconstrued as evil or harmful. Don’t get me wrong violent intrusive thoughts are there at times but both psycho/socio are born from trauma, as well as genetics and issues with the environment in which they grew up, and I think both are blanket terms at times. I know I get overwhelmed by emotions frequently, a lot of people w the diagnosis do as well, kind of debunking the idea that both are emotionless and cold, seeking to kill those that have wronged them or just in general. idk. It’s the same with most mental illnesses; depression meaning always suicidal or self harming, attention seeking, bipolar associated with being crazy, OCD only meaning people like to make sure things are clean, the list goes on. Many with the diagnosis are also very passionate and hurt themselves emotionally when hurt or deceived by people close to them (friends, family, significant other, etc), and they don’t turn to hurting them in return. A lot of these psychopathic kill or violent types are an outlier.

[@thealarm7057]

Yea. I've had this when I told people I have PDD-NOS and they're uneducated.

[@maximillian1109]

In my mind a functioning psycopath is more or less like any other person, its just that they don’t experience their emotions physically or impulsively as others do. Does not even mean they can’t for example love, its just that the love has a different shape and is based off of other things. This could be totally wrong though, I am absolutely no expert! So correct any missunderstandings if you wish!XD

[@jborrego2406]

It was obvious who else defends them

[@Coastal_Cruzer]

This whole documentary just feels like they're trying to romanticize the whole situation like it wasn't highly abusive

[@TheGrossDemon]

No no no, you dont get to say you're unaware of someones murder plans when theyve openly been telling you about it. That's just fucking stupid. They need to be arrested for knowing any not doing shit, then making a bet about it!

[@proffesorspiderlastname5654]

I'd say they should have some responsibility but if someone told you they were going to murder someone you thought they were close with you would probably just think they were joking.

[@kutaoizumi4189]

@@proffesorspiderlastname5654 Yeah, let's also not forget that they were teenagers and maybe not as fucked as this guy, they probably couldn't believe it themselves as far as we know and didn't think much of it. Especially considering the positive reputation he had among them. Sometimes people hear or witness things that are fucked up but don't know how to react or what to do when it involves someone they are friends with or look up to. That's ten time magnified when you're very young and don't have the experience and maturity to deal with such problems. So I don't feel as angry towards the other boys for not reporting it.

[@PistenDeer]

@@proffesorspiderlastname5654 Yeah obviously. Except not when they constantly bring up specific plans for the murder over and over again. That's not normal teenage talk.

[@xsm0l]

I literally saw one of my high school friends choke another for only a few seconds and she literally passed out and didn't come back till like a minute. I couldn't imagine how incapacitated she was after him trying to strangle her, there's absolutely no way she could've ran, even if she wasnt passed out

[@Rubyvipr]

Having a good enough connection with your child is key.. I know all to well of not having anyone to talk to and the trapped feeling you mentioned along with embarrassment

[@Convicted_Melon]

Sociopaths are typically made through environmental factors like trauma or stunted emotional growth. Contrary to popular belief they do have a sense of guilt and conscience/empathy, but they don't typically inhibit their antisocial behavior as much as they should. Much of their behavior is impulsive and erratic rather than manipulative or conniving. Lying is common but it's mainly to rationalize their own actions when caught out rather than to be coersive. Psychopathy is the genetic one, and have no ability to feel empathy or guilt. They're also very consistent in their anti-social behavior and are prone to manipulating people. Psychopaths are the ones who feign emotion and will maticulously plan their lives entirely around using people to further their ambitions. Psychopaths are rarely violent but when they are they try their best to hide it until they know it they won't get caught. Many serial killers are psychopaths.

[@lilmeows8787]

32:35 I can agree that being strangled makes you weak enough to stay still. Especially if you already have a breathing condition. I was in a bad relationship a while ago, my ex used to choke me when she was angry because she said it helped her calm down (don't ask, I was manipulated by her a lot just cause I wanted her to be happy.). But one day she took it too far, did it for too long and I ended up being rushed to the hospital... I had a severe panic attack, an asthma attack and she misplaced some of the cartilage in my throat that, to this day, still pops out of place. 😐

[@atleastimnotginger]

i don't know about psychopathy but sociopaths/people with aspd can feel love to people and can open up to others. it's not automatically about controlling/convincing others, but of course this stuff happens often with people who have aspd and they usually only have a couple of exceptions. they can experience emotion and love and all tho. (i might have some wrong info in here, if that's the case, just correct me)

[@missvoorhees7964]

also,if anyone is wondering why he would tell people she was pregnant and force her to lie about it,its most likely its so she would be 'off limits'. if she's carrying his supposed child then she's HIS possession,HE owned her,HE has that power over her. even if not true its still his way of claiming HER as HIS. it may sound like a stupid lie to most people but it would be why he'd say it. he saw himself as her owner and once he was done with her,he'd move onto another 'supply' but until then even if not with him he'd still want that ownership because how dare she see any of his flaws or cracks,how dare anyone see him as not good enough to keep a woman,so he needs to take control of the situation to save face. grandiosity.

[@theokemp9451]

to preface this I'm a fan and like your videos you bring up psychopaths and sociopaths a lot but its very clear your only understanding of them is purely their fictional representations. The Stranger is a fiction book and not a good reference point for any meaningful guidance into a psychopaths mind. Psychopaths make great surgeons because they can endure the high-stake situations of heart surgeries etc. without becoming stressed and thus more inclined to make errors. They have no provable inclination for murder certainly not to any degree higher than the average person. most murderers are NOT psychopaths. also narcissisms is common among psychopaths but theres a billion who arent. and murder= psychopath is a really problematic point to make over and over again.

[@drockomoush]

Ive been in a simulator situation. My ex girlfriend kept throwing me away but keeping me close, using me and then telling people i was a SA-ed her and her friends. Telling people we where broken up so she could cheat and then crying about me calling her out tell me I was in the wrong for trying to rake away her freedoms and shit. Didnt realize how bad it was until after high school. 6 years waisted tied to a psychopath.

[@TheGrossDemon]

Yup, nothing more boys will be boys than talking about killing your ex gf. Can people stop being ignorant by choice!? Certain jokes should never be made, I dont care how stupid you choose to be in the moment, joking about killing someone is ALWAYS a red flag! At this point might as well arrest everyone that heard about his plan as an accomplice

[@marcusgerald2409]

I Really like pig 🐷. I devour his content. But I do not like gamer chair psychiatrist

[@Indhel9957]

To oversimplify it: sociopathy is a diagnosis/mental illness. Psychopathy is people with a mental illness that are violent or dangerous. Least that's how my psych teacher in high-school described them. Psychopaths cannot hide their "crazy" while sociopaths evolve and adapt to those around them, but could be just as dangerous as a psychopath.

[@smartistnerd366]

My psyche teacher said the opposite lmao

[@sugargay6713]

i believe the point wasn’t to defend the killer obviously no one cares about them but the point is you shouldn’t use those words for those people who haven’t killed anyone because just because they don’t feel any feelings doesn’t mean they’re more likely to become a murderer that’s just a myth and while obviously they don’t feel anything so it won’t affect them some people can acknowledge that a person by not doing that is being kind to them and still appreciate it so yeah

[@sugargay6713]

i don’t know everything on this but as far as i’m aware

[@carnuatus]

@@sugargay6713 most people on the aspd spectrum do have feelings, just not like neurotupicals.

[@jborrego2406]

Ok we will let all ppl that are psychopaths live next to u an ur family

[@enderactive5773]

When i heard the British accents, everything changed

[@jackmarshall3255]

This is sad and horrifying it can happen to anyone and happens to people all over the place. I wonder how beans on toast taste.

[@laineygrace9018]

It’s actually terrifying how similar he acts to my ex, I always had a sense that if I didn’t leave when I did and if I didn’t have the support system I had that I could have ended up like this, but watching this really enforces that sense

[@Gweem13]

What makes me depressed is that my half-sister was in a very similar situation to this girl. Kind, charismatic, funny, ambitious.. though, also the "rebelious" type due to her upbringing. When she was 18 she started dating this much older guy (mid-late 30s) who, a year later, after a relationship I know next to nothing about besides how he "treated her well" but wasnt liked by the family much, shot her and his entire family, and then himself But the best part? The photo one of the local news outlets chose of him was one of him smugly grinning and posing, dressed in a suit with a handgun in his hand. The same type of gun, if not THE SAME GUN he used. To this day, i still can't get over it.

[@battlexman4741]

what i learned from cases like this is people please teach your kids phycology

[@rivetsquid8887]

Sociopaths [people with antisocial personality disorder, your chat was right, those were reductive terms not used medically anymore] do have emotions. They're just centered on self and generally not very positive. I used to date one. She generally had a pretty good relative moral code, but her reasoning for things like that was real orange and blue. Didn't pan out because my own neurotype didn't meld well there, but I'm grateful to have gotten some insights into how her head worked.

[@tktalk6900]

dude just admit you don't know the difference between a sociopath and psychopath oml

[@xqzvz]

No one cares

[@tktalk6900]

@@xqzvz your mum cares

[@xqzvz]

@@tktalk6900 real mature

[@tktalk6900]

@@xqzvz your mum's real mature

[@xqzvz]

@@tktalk6900 ew British

[@ChibaBanana]

omg, i hate myself for thinking of this. "Tha breakfast is to die for"

[@calvintabor5734]

When I was younger I had a friend who murdered his grandparents. He posted something on Facebook like "praying for my family and I hope they catch whoever did this." I'm not sure if he's still in jail or not , this would have been 8 years ago or so

[@Chelaxim]

Being offended on the behalf of a psychopath is ironic. You're being offended for someone who is incapable of being offended.

[@WillButtlerYeets]

Actually no they are quite easily offended. They just dont care if YOU are offended. the only emotions they have are in relation to themselves. Psychopaths are sometimes even seen hugely empathetic to their own families, just not to anyone else's family whatsoever. It's a much weirder & muddier realm of psychology than many people realize. Most psychopaths actually have no urge to kill whatsoever as they get what they want through other, easier means via a Machiavellian path of least resistance. They still retain the other genetic traits gifted to them by their parents and every other quality a human could have will still be present-like a cowardly, compulsively lying psychopath who slides by via simply vocally slandering others or one who's a an outright brute and has a false sense of honor and machismo. Got a manager that lords over you at work? Statistically they are more likely than not to have slight psychopathic tendencies as overly competitive, powerful positions require some less-than-empathetic qualities.

[@MuseVT]

Fun fact about psychopathy is that they’re capable technically of feeling any emotion. There’s no single emotion that every single psychopath can’t feel. Most psychopaths do have a wide range of emotions they’re unable to feel, but that varies person to person. So for example if someone was a psychopathic narcissist, they’d feel a large sense of pride and ego and I’d imagine would easily be able to feel offended at any form of “disrespect” directed at them.

[@bushdidharambe4219]

They aren’t incapable of having/showing emotion yk that right? Nobody’s offended it’s just the fact that the disorders have so much stigma that causes the people with them to suffer more than they do alr. Sociopathy is born from trauma, I’m not sure how psychopathy is formed but I’m sure it’s similar.

[@RollerOfEyes]

😂 lmao imagine being a bait comment because you don't understand something, couldn't be me

[@MuseVT]

@@bushdidharambe4219 psychopathy is a disorder people are born with. The part of the brain that handles emotions is underdeveloped and under active, so it’s true that they can’t feel some emotions and struggle a bit to feel others, but those feelings vary person to person. The only feeling that almost all psychopaths can’t feel or struggle to feel is empathy. Psychopathy as we currently know of it is thought to be attributed to a lack of development in the ventromedial prefrontal cortex and the amygdala, along with lack of neurotransmitters connecting the 2 areas. Since one area is more responsible for the development of “the conscience” and the other is more responsible for social behaviors, a miscommunication between the 2 or all together lack of communication causes an extreme detachment from emotion, because the amygdala (emotions mentioned are examples) isn’t telling the conscience that something is wrong and the conscience isn’t telling the amygdala you should feel bad for something.

[@urlocaljelly]

I remember in high school, it had a preschool attached to it. Sometimes their teacher would walk with the kids through the high school halls. I remember I was walking and overheard two guys joke(??) about stabbing the literal toddlers and said other gross stuff. Anyways I told security and even though there’s plenty of cameras, those boys were never identified or punished.

[@AidanSpeak]

It's more the fact media portrays most killers as psychos but not all psychos are killers not all killers are psychos

[@ariannastemp9798]

Yeaahhhhhhh as someone who’s been strangled like you want to run, but your body is just so weak. Wild how important oxygen is to bodily functions

[@liandoaethend2403]

Strangled before, my head feels fuzzy, its hard to think fast at the situation

[@90sBlubber]

as a british person, i think i'll have beans on toast for lunch.

[@jukie8790]

my fav part was the beans on toast

[@crypto-1385]

Spooky time

[@nobodyinparticular1290]

I'd kill for some beans on toast.

[@insertcommaname1388]

We take those, any day of the week

[@karlhilton6641]

what a disgusting cash grab they produced off of this young woman's demise.

[@FilthTribeFTP]

Did this dude just watch "River's Edge" and go, "That! That's how I'm going to do it!" Even shows his friends and everything....... "I didn't need no gun.... I did mine with MY HANDS!!!...." , ".....She couldn't move...couldn't scream....I had TOTAL control!.......AND I FELT SO F*CKIN ALIVE!!!!!"

[@zillastudios8430]

Screen shine transition moment

[@rosenrot234]

That "Why did she just stay there and get hit with the rock?" guy clearly has no idea how easy a human can be temporarily knocked out if you get their airway. There's a clip of Hulk Hogan performing a choke hold on Richard Belzer. Just "night night" quick.

[@clarissejunqueira1994]

sociopaths can be made by abuse and those kind of things, but hey, everyone thinks about "i could kill that person" but making a plan and developing passion in it or doing it, it shows they have a lot that psychos have, they beeing or not, they have tendencies.

[@NikkigandCo]

This was horrid.. this isn’t something you hear of in the uk.. I’m Scottish, living in wales and this happened literally down the road from me and the kids were at the same high school that all 3 of mine attended.. it’s changed people around here but I’ll tell you something.. the school took NO accountability for the bullying that is still in every corner of that school. It’s a toxic environment. I encountered bullying in high school but nothing like what I’ve heard goes on in that school and they claim a “zero tolerance for bullying” at the school which is complete bs. Kids have unalived themselves at the school from it

[@VoltrenXytech]

the problem with psychology as of late is that the industry is shedding all the old terms and deliberately using broad reaching terms as to not step on toes... which ironically pisses off people that need to know the specifics, or in some case gets someone labeled as a danger to themselves and their surroundings because something like Psychopathic tendencies is slotted into the anti-social disorders category, so just being anxious in a crowd has you in the same pool as a man who strangles kittens for fun or the new "autism spectrum" that covers 95% of all mental disorders now.. everything from depression, to sudden explosive violent outbursts... we are literally coasting backwards and not really making any progress at all

[@sarah69420]

Lmao there is no new autism spectrum. Get off tiktok

[@zarifhasan4191]

No Mersault (the main character of the stranger) did give a reason to why he shot that guy. The sun was in his eyes.

[@cswaters85]

This was about 40mins from me. This was pure evil.

[@JewshPlays]

ninja 2.0 he wanted the reboot card

[@-.Jellyfish.-]

There's a difference between psychopaths and sociopaths: psychopaths aren't able to feel empathy nor stress which means that, as you mentioned, they can kill someone as if it was breakfast and they can pass lying detectors and stay calm while doing the most atrocious things (they are able to not arouse suspicion). Both sociopaths and psycho lack social skills but can pretend very well. The main difference is that psychos are born with that defective gene and sociopaths are raised into being socios to the point that they lose empathy but can still feel stress and very rarely love. Both are narcissistic which is why they feel as they are above everyone and every decision they make is to benefit them. So for example they befriend you to get something out of it and if you're not of use to them they can kill you in an instant( the socio will panic but not feel remorse) neither feel remorse nor guilt

[@-.Jellyfish.-]

Remember PSYCHOpaths have that psychopathy engrained in their psyche from birth. SOCIOpaths get like that through social interactions (abuse, neglect...)

[@zeallust8542]

Wow, a big ol paragraph of incorrect garbage

[@AnimosityIncarnate]

@@zeallust8542 Vague posting with no reiterating of their point is literally fucking useless. you might aswell have not commented a damn thing lmao

[@zeallust8542]

@Melon Sauce Okay, psychopathy and sociopathy are not accepted terms in psychology and havent been for a very long time. They are both derogatory terms for the same disorder.

[@kenzie4217]

He looks like the douchy scott pilgrim from the inbetweeners

[@JustMe-cl6fj]

I had no idea of beans on toast was that good lol

[@Xisk77]

@0:35 NOT THE TEACHERS! ANYTHING BUT THE TEACHERS!

[@ShrekThaOGEE]

Why do all the murderers have non-selfies who tf takes pictures like that😂

[@sindragonbladehell305]

Kids are cruel Jack

[@hagelslag9312]

The comment how she ‘just hung around’ was so weird to me. As if she could just leave. At that age even mothers are scared of the strength of their teenage sons. How can we expect a little girl to just run off. Wtf.

[@toofried4917]

When the group chat gets leaked

[@TT-vq8zi]

Time to be depressed 😄

[@hankkingsley619]

I agree, Michael Cera dressed as Rambo doesn't look charismatic.

[@hankkingsley619]

On second thought, he looks more like Stuart from Mad TV. Anyways, the forensic lady saying how shocking it was for a 15-year-old to revel in the murder is kind of at odds with the fact that literally every other popular boy in the whole town also reveled in it, or at best, did the sociopathic "meh."

[@hankkingsley619]

In a world with 7 billion people and billions more that lived and died in modern times, I can understand the chances of a bunch of psycho-killers all coincidentally living in the same town and knowing each other is statistically possible however rare, like finding two shiny Pokémon in a row, but it feels like something else is at play, like lead in the towns drinking water, or a coach that touched all of those boys years back.

[@Phantomcuffs]

I don’t know. it seems to me that whenever people dismiss what someone is saying that’s just “teenage talk” or just “just talk” and no one knew what to think because he was just so likable. It just seems to me that all these people are just trying to save face. They don’t wanna look like a bunch of idiots that ignored someone blatantly talking about killing someone.

[@MrAsherDeist]

33:00 I've been strangled before. Someone used their studded leather straps around my neck (studs inward so they were pressing into my neck). Had the strength to break free and run like hell

[@Felahliir]

Were you a fifteen year old girl?

[@Rythen2]

This documentary is so dramatized it's awful.

[@willryan6523]

In defense of the friends... It's a definitive boy calling wolf scenario. He says he's gonna do it to her over and over and over and over again on end until they don't take it seriously at all because the seemingly obvious perception he's just whining and complaining. After all, he's *talking* about it forever, but as far as they know, he's not *doing* anything. Yeah, an adult would be concerned, but when kids in high school with no strong conception of what is and isn't normal behavior saw someone who had manipulated them so thoroughly and who they liked so well complaining, it was not hard for them to rationalize it as this cool, good guy they liked just being ridiculous. It genuinely isn't hard to see how they went from A to B.

[@carnuatus]

Sociopaths are definitely made. Like you said, it comes usually from lots of abuse, head trauma and emotional trauma at a young age. But like others here have said, it's a spectrum and psychopathy is on that spectrum.

[@NienNienNien]

How can people like this dude he looks like .....bag. the hair says it all

[@ΆγγελοςΜορίκης-ζ2ω]

16:23 why is he wearing a tie as a bandana lol

[@G.reviewz]

The yellow stuff might be nicotine from smoking i heard you can get it on your fingers but i dunno if you can get it on your mouth i dont smoke at all so i dunno

[@zhekazheka7874]

The main reason children become killers is how shit society is (and I’m not being ironic). With their young underdeveloped and inexperienced minds they see the garbage the world is and react violently

[@spiderlee5585]

Also "psychopath" and "sociopath" are not current terms at all. They're no longer used in the DSM and haven't been since the early 2000s, probably due to everyone calling killers by those terms and unintentionally or uncaringly associating not-at-all mentally ill murderers with people who have empathy disorders like ASPD and have done nothing wrong and as such treating kids and other people with these emotional disabilities badly out of assumption they'd become murderous. In the modern DSM such terms are not used, and "Anti-social Personality Disorder" is in fact the closest condition to what was in olden days lumped as "psychopath", and it is indeed not okay to just call anyone evil and fucked up by an olde timey mental illness term because that person was a sicko--it would be like calling anyone criminal with a learning problem the r-word and then backing up the use of the r-word by saying "well, it's a broad term! It's only if they do this terrible thing, then they deserve being called (slur)!", perhaps worse depending on what crime it was.

[@spiderlee5585]

It should also be said that trying to categorize all muderers into a mentally ill category to basically lump all people willing to kill as "crazies" has its roots in the Eugenics movement, made most popular in more recent history by the Third Reich of Nazi Germany.... So, not a great look to be declaring "all of those psychopaths are like this/they always do this!" if you don't know the seriousness of how pre-WWII people literally said such things about anyone mentally unwell and would try to lock up all sick folk in inhumane prisons, overcrowded to the point that innocent sick people were dying of worms, bedsores, and even worse, out of a belief they derserved it.

[@zacharonivevo]

man this guys funny he should review movies

[@wither5673]

i always think its funny when people act surprised at kids being capable of being this fucked up. they are a person just like any one ells, and their brains are not fully developed, so there is even MORE risk for REALLY bad mental shit to get worse. and most of us have first hand experience of how cruel, un empathetic and spiteful children can be, i was not borne an introvert, i was taught to be one from my entire experience in school.

[@kingjaeher]

Psychopath and sociopath aren't terms used in psychology that differ from each other, go-figure.

[@MrCarlBackhausen]

On the topic of children being scary sometimes. You never mentioned the fact that adolescent brains aren´t fully developed yet, science has proven that our brains aren´t fully developed and stable until the age between 20-30. Or the fact that their body chemistry and brain chemistry is so unstable due to the transition between child to adult. They are basically on a high dose of steroids during their whole transition to young adults. That is why children and teenagers can be so unbelievably cruel and scary, especially boys. Boys usually develop late and become way more oddly affected by their hormones they develop as teenagers. That is why you can´t diagnos peoples actual psychological disorders until they are at least 18, like the psychiatrist mentioned. They need to wait and see how the person develops before they can make a correct diagnosis.

[@alatus_2519]

I gotta say that pig using those terms makes me uncomfortable. Psychopath and sociopath have been used towards people with aspd (and probably other personality disorders) which has created a huge stigma around personality disorders in general. No one is sympathizing with a killer, it's just that the use of outdated terms is... kinda weird. Not everyone that can't feel all range of emotions is a "psychopath" that will kill people, they most likely just need therapy and treatment

[@RileyTastic]

He never said that every psychopath is a killer, he said that most killers tend to be psychopaths/sociopaths. It's a broad term with a lot of grey area, but this dude clearly had a gigantic lack of understanding of emotion and empathy. Pretty psychotic

[@alatus_2519]

@@RileyTastic yeah, i know he didn't say that. Still, he uses outdated terms and that's what i wanted my main point to be. It's on me if it didn't come out that way, mbad

[@lovelightstarboy]

@@RileyTasticPsychotic is a bad term to use as well. Psychotic refers to someone who experiences psychosis…not lack of understanding emotions or empathy. It’s incredibly offensive to use terms you don’t understand and that have been used to insult those with psychosis. He didn’t say it, but he clearly is heavily stigmatizing ASPD by using sociopath and psychopath like this and constantly going on about how these people are so scary. Psychopath and sociopath are not even a real diagnosis. They are shorthand for Antisocial personality disorder. This reflects on the personality disorder incredibly horribly, and further adds to the idea that all antisocial pd people are like this. Stop defending clear ableism if you don’t understand what it’s like. I have ASPD and NPD. I have to deal with people saying this shit about me and people like me every day.

[@UnkownWonders]

​@@RileyTasticit was said before but psychotic literally has nothing to do at all with whatever evil shit that teen did. People who are in a medical term psychotic are just normal people who experience a psychoses like ptsd, anxiety, depression, etc.

[@SabrinaRina]

I think the issue is its become more slang for someone who harms others physically and/or emotionally due to a void in compassion. Its a matter of whether people who it applies to clinically want to reclaim the terms and have that flight, or create a new label. I mean, hysteria is now about chaos and panic, but hysteria was a clinical diagnosis mostly used on women, and even then it was an attack on them not being obediant than in a baligerant panic. I think because of that association people rarely discuss hysteria as a diagnosis to avoid the stigma.

[@storymaster21]

This video is like "Worlds most deadly kids", then starts with someone not even remotely a child. Teens and kids are VERY different beings, the age of a "kid" or "child" ends at 11, wherein you become "preteen", and at 13 you become a "teen". Teens are NOT kids they are legally only referred to as "minors".

[@ladydeath3463]

they are still children..... you're giving m.a.p vibes.

[@sarah69420]

Lmao I bet you think they can consent just bc they aren't kids in your mind. Teens are children.

[@hallbjornthefirebreather8376]

42 minutes into this video and they've only said 5 things and then just repeated those things over and over. *42 minutes in* "his plan was to lure her to the park, and that was last anyone would ever see her again" Yeah mate, we covered that 27 minutes ago. Let's move on, shall we?

[@harlanpendaz9694]

watch that one commenter was just a salty psychopath or whatever

[@clarissejunqueira1994]

hope you have that connection to your son ^^

[@Policy63]

Ok but what happened to the kid who bought him breakfast?

[@lucasdiazjr5679]

Why are we not hearing the friends getting in trouble especially the idiot who literally praised and made a wagering that poor girls life

[@CrystalWilliamsBrownArt]

Probably because they wanted them to testify. They likely decided it would be harder to prosecute a case against them and it was better to focus on the killer.

[@lucasdiazjr5679]

@@CrystalWilliamsBrownArt tbh that's a good point,In all fairness tho being quiet and that wager was more accomplice like and seeing as how they could get in trouble it was sacrifice the main pawn time

[@Spirit-108]

some people are actually dumb

[@crystalnae3122]

Hey Pig, would i be canceled if I called someone *CRRRRRINGE*

[@dantomkins742]

You should react to some JCS style videos

[@smartistnerd366]

Psychopathy and Sociopathy are not derogatory terms, they're literally used formally wtf

[@hannibalspectre637]

Your English accent skewed a lil Australian but I’ll allow it, sincerely, a British

[@corruptiongamer4566]

Eyyo Call me carson at 11:07

[@SkulSmashre]

This kid should’ve just played Peoples Playground

[@guttergoodies674]

i love you, but you are so very wrong about sociopathy and psychopathy.

[@Jess_J01]

I'm British but not a fan of beans on toast. It's alright but not my thing😂😂

[@MrVisualHigh]

Careful, pretty sure that's considered high treason

[@shikitohno47]

Wow I didn't realize bro was a psychologist! Amazing !

[@yungspaceghostt4039]

The recreation weak they didn’t even put the headband on

[@mw7165]

A lack/complete absence of some type of empathy is common for ALL cluster B personality disorders, not just ASPD. I have one myself. I can understand the concept of cognitive empathy but putting it into practice is really difficult. My emotional empathy is higher/more active than your neurotypical person (or whatever bs you wanna call people without a PD). I have no problem with people seeing I’m not perfect and not liking me. I had an ex who seemed to likely have NPD (that he seemed to inherit from his mom) and was exactly like this kid- everyone (in public) loved him, no one really seemed to know much about him/couldn’t get as close to him as he would get to them, he seemed to have no weaknesses, literally expressed to me on more than one occasion that he thought he was god/Jesus, would brag about how he’s better than literally everyone else… But after being with this guy for nearly a decade, I saw that it was just a mask he wears. He’d get blackout drunk and sob uncontrollably in my lap, about how he hates himself and his family doesn’t actually love him, he hates them, they were just trying to get a daughter and he was the last son before that daughter, he doesn’t actually have any friends, he feels like no one really likes him or cares, and I was the only person who was consistently there for him, despite him being so horrible to me (which he was aware of but would deny the fact, while sober). He needed admiration from everyone and was constantly cheating, discarding, then hoovering and lovebombing me. It was awful… People usually get PDs because of a combo of genetics and a really shitty environment, growing up. It IS possible to develop a PD off of just genetics alone (despite the perfect environment, growing up), but people without the genetic predisposition won’t develop them, even if the environment they grow up in is horrible.

[@mw7165]

It’s all about control with people with NPD. They will absolutely make smear campaigns and send their people to harass you, if you try to rebel against their “authority”. I heard many a rumor about me, from him, that he’d vehemently deny was from him. I’ve heard of these types also showing up just outside of whatever restraining order line or not abiding by them at all. Also, revenge p*rn. Shit like this is why I worry about what my ex will do, since I’ve moved on, blocked him everywhere and was the only person to stand up to him/get away. Pretty sure he tried showing up at my apartment/made a false call to the cops and sent them to my apartment and has fucked with my car. I actually fear for my safety, knowing he may be lurking around. They like to play mind games. In their minds, this kind of shit is a slight. They could be horrible to you but if you retaliate or try to get away, in their minds, it’s like, “how DARE you try to leave ME? How DARE you try to move on and have a life?” It’s not uncommon for them to do horrible, disgusting things to get back at someone who they feel slighted them. I’ve heard of some male narcissists trying to get their victim pregnant and running off afterward, out of spite, or female narcissists getting pregnant to lock a man down, so he can’t leave without guilt. They’re truly vile creatures…

[@RollerOfEyes]

most of your comments here are ok and understandably upset about the misrepresented aspd people but... i saw some really sus ones down there as well dude 😢

[@bobbythompson6017]

How did they know everything that that happened between the murder and the girlfriend ? There really was not that much texting 14 15 years ago and I'm sure the gf forgot her old flip phone password or threw it away so they could have not gotten text between them it's all hearsay

[@CrystalWilliamsBrownArt]

Yes there was texting. I got my first cell phone in 2004 when I started college. Which is 18 years ago. I think you are confused about technology and timelines.

[@CrystalWilliamsBrownArt]

Also they arrested him close to when she was murdered. The text messages would have been added to the case file. Case files are generally open to the public. You can probably get this information yourself.

[@Zephyr616]

Environment is true. I'm much more zen nowadays, but the sheer amount of bullying I got in school for no reason at all would've turned me into a school shooter if guns were legal in the UK 😹 instead I just became a reclusive weeb with no social skills 👀