He Lied About Everything

[@kanesanders157]

I got called a poser by a guy who doesn't even like music? Damn

[@b-boycastertroy]

Can we refer to Fakes Liars and Posers as "Finns" or "a Finn" now. And just immortalize him in the history books? 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@kalka1l]

@@b-boycastertroyPlenty of decent Finns that don’t deserve the slander. I propose they be called musicmisic.

[@PxNxWxGxW]

They walk among us and breathe our air.

[@b-boycastertroy]

@kalka1l it's like Karens that aren't actual Karens catching strays. I feel you but maybe for just a year or two? 😆✌️

[@IvyKilla]

Don't worry he was projecting

[@ФонФон-й7о]

Bald-on-Bald Violence

[@GuilhermeSouza-tp6kf]

this comment is not getting the love it deserves

[@saassuus9220]

friendly fire

[@Dracula_sb]

Goated comment 😂

[@Nick-Stewbreeze]

😢

[@Dracula_sb]

Bro's username is in phyrexian too lol

[@aguamoose]

This reads as a cope to me. He started out talking about things he genuinely enjoyed, drifted in to making Wikipedia style slop, slowly grew to hate himself and the content, now he's at "well actually I never enjoyed music in the first place and you're all stupid for liking it"

[@goregrindisthebestgenre]

Absolutely. He doesn’t look happy at all.

[@joaorufino4952]

Fucking exactly

[@DildoDaggins69]

100%, this is how it comes across to me. I'm the same age as Finn, and like him I grew up in my local hardcore scene etc, and in the last decade or so, several guys I grew up playing in bands with who slogged away in creative industries for years and have now "grown up", started working in advertising or I.T., and they're now spewing the whole "I hate music, music sucks, waste of my f-ing life etc" to anyone who'll listen, and I think it's essentially the black-and-white-thinking mode they've adopted for self-justification.

[@DiestroCorleone]

This.

[@fkknsikk]

@@DildoDaggins69 A former friend of mine was on an "I never liked music" arc right up until his divorce. This is a guy who used to start dance parties with strangers at stop lights back in the day. You hate to see it.

[@vladtepes1047]

Finn has mad "divorced guy" energy

[@demitasse22]

THANK YOU

[@sydlawson3181]

I feel so vindicated in violently hating him for thevpast decade. Dude just seemed fake af.

[@Hiei999]

Dude, yes this is pretty spot on. I have a feeling it was an ultimatum. His wife was like, "look youtube or our relationship." Which is way more lame, so he has to play this off like the "cool guy" he is.

[@nobodyxxxxxxxx]

Daaaamn people still watch this channel?

[@doomusrlc]

I believe he actually is, as I think he's in his 2nd marriage now lol

[@4tado]

This is like moving away and leaving a letter to your best friends saying "I never liked you guys anyway"

[@lordvlygar2963]

This is exactly what it is. He obviously loves music, but is acting like an ass in that interview so people no longer bother him.

[@floatingdisembodiedhead8975]

@@lordvlygar2963 tbf he's always been an ass though when he talks about music he doesn't enjoy.

[@lordvlygar2963]

@@floatingdisembodiedhead8975 That is true. I attribute that to being part of his act while marketing his channel. It's the drama and wrong information that got the views. Going through most of his comments, people were there to correct things he got factually wrong. I must admit, I've fallen for that engagement tactic myself on other channels and on Facebook.

[@xyklapse]

@@lordvlygar2963 But now he's garnered a group of haters & trolls who'll never leave him alone.

[@lordvlygar2963]

@@xyklapse Give it two weeks.

[@majorisker]

This is just creepy tbh. How soulless do you have to be to fake a passion for years and then immediately turn around and degrade the very people that helped get you that success. The comment about how musicians are dumb for not being rich was just sad. Bro can’t comprehend someone doing something for any reason other than money.

[@hedonistjones]

Marketing expert moment.

[@monotypical_]

He’s using this as a facade. Because he has a wife he met when she was 18 and he was in his 30s. They’re calling him out for it and this is why he really quit the internet

[@JackieLombardi]

Ive been making music for over 10 years and it's obviously never going to go anywhere but I still upload because I love making music more than pretty much anything else. It makes me genuinely happy and feel good to create. Hearing his attitude towards music makes me sick because there's so many people in music (from commentators to artists) that feel exactly like him but haven't gone mask off about it.

[@Tabako-san]

You've never met someone who throughout all their life experience, through all the events in the world around them, in art, in science, in technology- they decided that their number one passion in life was marketing? This is what an unfortunate amount of business and marketing graduates end up like, the only measure for success is about making a lot of money and "making it big", whatever that takes.

[@whooked]

he obviously had passion for it you guys are so gullible

[@RenegadeY]

Moral of the story: don't trust marketing majors

[@yunglynda1326]

yup👏🏽

[@blackbearcj5819]

or business

[@jordanswan1822]

damn i guess i gotta unsubscribe from atrioc now

[@mj.l]

correct

[@elponchex]

It was pretty easy to notice that guy is lame.

[@banukaii]

For a marketting major he forgot that you shouldnt burn bridges! Outing himself as disingenuous wasn't the best approach brand-wise 🤡

[@DirtyBrain]

"I played 1000+ hours of this video game and it's absolute garbage" type behavior

[@lolplokagah1512]

diff argument I have over 1000 hours in destiny and that shit is ass lmao

[@egrytznr8893]

@@lolplokagah1512 lmao. priorities.

[@desireeeeam]

This

[@Andy_77799]

There's a good reason to that cause. Typically those games fall off with no new content or, new bad content and p2w aspects, so the dedicated community of the game starts hating it as they want a good experience as that game could have big potential. And given the playtime, the players always have a bit of hope for the better so it almost always ends up in disappointment and hatred towards the game. But this is viable mostly for games that aren't super competitive cause these are generally viewed as trash by anyone, even more so if you play it to such degree

[@KuraBinges]

LMMFAOOOO SAME FUCK DESTINY ​@@lolplokagah1512

[@TrillHanks]

Grifting as a music enjoyer is wild

[@VuotoPneumaNN]

And weird

[@billhicks8]

Not liking music is quite weird (I've met such people), _faking it_ is outright lizard man behaviour

[@ubahfly5409]

A job is a job. Do you love your work? Is your heart & passion also your career? How many ppl can even say that anyway ? This shit is hilarious 😂

[@dinguscollective1872]

@@ubahfly5409Thats dumb. There’s a difference between maintaining an appearance to keep a job you need and grifting your viewers by pretending to know what you are talking about.

[@youtubeuserdan4017]

Having an office job that you aren't exactly crazy about isn't the same as actively pretending to have a hobby that you don't actually enjoy for money. ​What makes it even weirder is that there are much better ways to make money from content creation anyways, the guy just seems like he's faking being a fake. @@ubahfly5409

[@okaytrees3829]

"Hit his financial goals" but can't afford a decent internet connection 💀

[@ObscuraDeCapra]

Like most LinkedIn jackoffs, he's probably broke AF without a grift.

[@Zebedee777]

Rich people don’t spend their time on ‘LinkedIn’ 😂

[@ThomasWake-k9j]

@@okaytrees3829 that guy is rich af. Broke to him is having to sell his fourth air bnb house

[@mmmuck]

He might have sold his channel

[@floatingdisembodiedhead8975]

@@okaytrees3829 he's the frugal type of rich person lol he's really stingy

[@AaronTebache]

What a bum. I find it so ironic that the space he placed himself, at it’s core, is extremely anti-capitalistic. So for him to make disrespectful comments towards musicians not making as much money as someone working on LinkedIn comes off so nasty. Weirdo ass dude. I understand everyone has different motives for whatever space/career they land in, but this just has so many levels of irony to it. I can’t.

[@synus1337]

not only that but hes made that point in his videos before and its like oh so ur just aware that ur a scumbag and fine with it

[@pauliePwalnuts]

Nobody in the music industry is anti-capitalistic imo. They may pretend to be while trying to make it though.

[@Vinsanity09]

You sound like you're a young person, likely under 25, so I'll give you grace but music the extremely captilistic its almost as free market as it gets.

[@SuperRadAttack]

@@Vinsanity09Communists are either just dumb or 12, capitalism is when cellphone, capitalism good = free market, capitalism bad = coporatocracy. Anything else you'd like to enlighten that young man about?

[@ole86]

He is trying to be the villain here. Having done it only for the money is a lie. He could not handle negative feedback and this is his fu all moment

[@BackJack450]

I think this is the real answer

[@floatingdisembodiedhead8975]

@@ole86 yup, that's what I thought too. He doesn't have to tattoo himself and interview people if he didn't actually have a love for the scene. He might lose interest now but he obviously has enough of a passion for it to choose it in the first place. I feel like he's just salty that the fan base doesn't appreciate the same music as him, which I get honestly. It can get frustrating to not have that bond over something you're passionate about. But this guy's always seems like he would be a petty person if you don't cosign everything that he loves. It's ironic how he can't take it aswell as he can dish it when it comes to talking shit about bands and genres.

[@flori4551]

He is trying to divert attention from the allegations that he was 30 and that his wife was a minor when they met. If you google his name + controversy most posts will be about this batshit crazy interview and all the reactions to it.

[@poisonxxxxangel]

Absolutely, this 100% read as cope to me

[@galaxychar]

@@flori4551 Omg?

[@Setashi]

"Focusing on LinkedIn" is fucking hilarious.

[@danny.nedelk0]

Didn't you know corporate conservatism is the new punk.

[@sunraddin]

haha yeah wtf

[@wingoshack]

that truly breaks my brain

[@tommypospa]

that convinces me he's fed up :D

[@davismorgan99]

There’s literally nothing more depressing than trading out your thriving channel to “focus on LinkedIn”😂😂😂

[@ManWithStroller]

I don't buy any of this. He likes music. Something happened and his feelings got hurt. Now hes pretending like it was all a big fake out.

[@JjsWorld77]

Could see it. But something still feels off

[@GANONdork123]

People found out he was in his 30s and his now wife was under 18 when they got together.

[@skreebadeeb69]

I saw he got ripped for dating young girls in his mid to late 30s

[@vinceguglielmi7253]

Yeah. He was making music related “content” for 20 years before PRMBA. I think his idea for the channel was to pivot into a more niche music marketing space, but he got caught up chasing views and what did well for him was making videos out of Wikipedia pages. Even before PRMBA you could tell he had a fair amount of contempt/disdain for certain elements of the music community, but this dude was also writing 700 word articles about assfactor 4, you don’t do that if you “don’t care about music”. I think as his channel got further away from what he initially wanted it to be, the contempt for those elements he didn’t like grew and he stopped nurturing his passion for music altogether. Plus he’s always been a fairly hyperbolic person. This feels like listening to someone going through a bad breakup.

[@dingdongism]

Fascinating hypothesis. I guess we'll only really know if he comes out and tells us more. I would be interested in hearing it, if it's true.

[@KrisGoodner]

The negativity absolutely got to him and he’s trying to pretend like it didn’t. He’s been a poser his whole life. But he finally realizes that whining only makes it worse. So he just gives up like a coward

[@MortonCammar]

This is a dumbass comment, I agree the negativity probably got to him and that's why he's saying it. But this poser shit is so cringe, like we aren't on myspace.

[@Glaedr11]

If he is not lying this is truly psychopathic levels of commitment to faking something so convincingly

[@JohnathanJannenga69]

It's kinda gross and weird if it's true

[@xXRichieDaggerXx]

Even if he is lying, it's totally psychotic. I never really thought twice about this guy either way, good or bad. But now I know he just completely sucks.

[@copsarebastards]

yeah that's the mind blowing part. I never really got into him but dude had a youtube channel, a podcast, etc. Just build your brand around something you actually like you fucking freak like wtf lmao

[@Father-of-Xerxes]

@@xXRichieDaggerXxI don’t think he’s lying per se - I think this is very unfortunate behavior but from my handful of interactions with him I think he takes comments on his content too seriously and he eventually got fed up with the hateful bs and is lashing out. It’s unfortunate and he should do better but I don’t think it’s as black and white as that

[@GoodMorningBeautiful4]

It would be better if he lied and said nothing. The levels of psychopathy would be even more badass. For him to tell the truth required honesty, cringe.

[@PaulOrtiz]

"Musicians are a lost cause" Yeah there are people who make more money than musicians...doing pointless, soulless jobs that don't really enrich anyones' lives or create anything lasting or meaningful. Musicians know music isn't lucrative (unless you're particularly fortunate or able to monetise your skills in ways beyond just recording and performing). But a world without art and passion would be....a world full of Finns. No thanks.

[@VivaSepulchre]

Well said

[@Lloyd2VD]

Yeah - That final take showed some true colours... Imagine doing stuff like music and not using your reach and influence to bullshit other or rip them of for your own enrichment. I mean wtf....

[@matty6878]

i get what hes saying. the industry itself is cancer. no big, fun acts that you can depend on to keep being creative and exploring the art for years. just flavor of the season and that gets aside for the next warm body - and its not even good music. the industry itself is full of finns.

[@strayiggytv]

​@@matty6878true but the end product still inspires creativity.

[@fluffskunk]

We're already there.

[@thefunkphenom11]

I love how his wikipedia page now lists one of his occupations as "grifter" LMAO.

[@Pollypole]

I just looked up his wikipedia page... I'm cracking up!

[@MetalGildarts]

Wait for real???

[@yanstein8464]

​@@MetalGildarts for real 😂 it's still up

[@brianmeen2158]

The term grifter is so overused at this point

[@_trissypoo]

@@brianmeen2158accurate for this situation though.

[@danny9405]

There’s legitimately no way he’s telling the truth. There are things that can’t be googled. There’s a lot more profitable niche’s to pretend to be into. He’s trolling.

[@brandonsutton3750]

My thoughts exactly.

[@Hiei999]

I have a feeling it was an ultimatum. His wife was like, "look youtube or our relationship." Which is way more lame, so he has to play this off like the "cool guy" he is.

[@thehurrytheharm]

I have no insight into Finn one way or the other and no horse in the race even if I did but he was also Sergeant D from Stuff You Will Hate

[@heyitszach89]

There’s pics of him at shows that he’s out up before unless he had them photoshopped which would make him certifiably criminally insane.

[@ole86]

feels like a ragequit

[@heavenly2k]

I'm glad he's quitting, we dont need him and he doesnt need us. There are thousands of creators who actually care about what they do.

[@davidsoux]

Finn was so pretentious and acted like he knew about some of the music he talked about but you can tell that he studied the band the night before.

[@digbydark9313]

Dude crapped on my favorite bands for years and turns out he probably never even listened to it.

[@willneilson]

I knew that something was up when he said that he didn't like SOAD 😂

[@Idellphany]

This..

[@darko1295]

Tangential, but there was a time when i watched his videos fairly often and him speaking with authority on all kinds of music always seemed fishy to me. If you were to take Finn at his word, back in high school, he was into and involved in EVERY music scene and apparently knows and used to listen to every random underground death/thrash/groove/punk/hardcore band out there in the 90s. That shit never lined up to me

[@fraziocolucciio9213]

​@@willneilsonwhich is insane, cause SOAD has fans in sooooo many generes throughout metal and punk

[@IzunaSlap]

He said he didn't like Fugazi, yet he calls himself punk rock

[@gmitch1978]

I’m actually kind of offended at his disdain for musicians. He is a passionless individual if he can’t understand why someone would choose art over money. He must be miserable. And boring.

[@king_vision4085]

Because people need money to survive and buy essentials dunce

[@tim.noonan]

That’s why he had to groom a minor to find a wife

[@GmGrayfox]

His whole vibe was pretentiousness and misery. Good riddance, he’s pale like that bc he has no soul.

[@tim.noonan]

@@king_vision4085 A person can do that without being a leech. Maybe you’re not capable of that, you don’t seem very bright.

[@GarryLarryBarry]

​@@king_vision4085Art over excessive money.

[@TheErikjsm]

this is a flirting with a girl then instantly saying you were hacked type moment but its music

[@seanwestbrook2071]

He got out of working a job he hates by… working a job he hates. What a masterful gambit

[@talktalktalktalktalk]

He found more profitable boots to lick.

[@TheUnaBoomer]

Im pretty sure anything you do for work you will eventually hate.

[@Programentalist]

@@TheUnaBoomer Naaah. I've been in the same trade (IT) for over 25 years and seen some major changes but still like my job.

[@TheUnaBoomer]

@Programentalist oh that's sick. I've only done food and construction. Serious question: Do you think it and programming are going to have major job cuts from AI?

[@talktalktalktalktalk]

@@TheUnaBoomer Yes but not for people with 25 experience

[@TallgrassMeander]

A marketing guy was full of shit and did it for the money?! SHOCKED.

[@Shakethe5Dusts]

Second

[@LatinaCreamQueen]

James Somerton lol

[@elponchex]

This guy sucks, he hates dream theater even the 90s output.

[@Trepanation21]

He was into it for awhile, but he's definitely leaning into the "I did it for the money the _entire_ time, lululul" because he's salty.

[@Hopesfallout]

I know right? I saw like 5 of his vids 5 years ago and felt like clearly his perspective was one of a guy who doesn't care and looks at stuff from mostly a stats and numbers angle. Call it 'poser', 'fake' or 'cynical' - he was obviously detached from the start.

[@ScruFaceJeanOfficial]

At least there are culture vultures for things other than hip hop 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@-jaylouise-]

Love yer channel man

[@KL6Soup]

mckent gun kelly 😂

[@WEAREALLJUSTMEAT]

I mean yeah just look at blink 182 and the sex pistols.

[@islabee94]

🤣

[@danielg.w5733]

Always been lol.

[@cake_9510]

Finn literally never sat right with me as a person. I watched him a bit for about a week and then just ignored any videos that popped up in my feed. I really just felt like he was a poser, and I don't really use that term. I've been proven right.

[@DavidYrselfClean]

Austin not appreciating that Anthony mic’d his chest because he’s speaking from the heart

[@fantano]

damn you kinda cooked

[@wartygourd]

real shit, bars

[@elponchex]

​@@fantano Makes sense that he doesn't like music. The guy made videos talking about hating prog rock, then later explains he doesn't like music. Yep.

[@mjarrala]

Mr. Funatparties here - the mic’s capsule is pointed at Anthony’s mouth from a downward angle in order to mitigate plosives. RE20 often does get mistaken for a side address microphone!

[@jyjjy7]

Anthony has never even listened to MDBF

[@Chris24_]

Dude always came across that way, pretentious and disingenuous, and always found him insufferable.

[@Goated_ChrisBreezy]

This is borderline disgusting to his fans, completely used them for money, I understand that KZbin is a job but the fact this guy basically admitted he's been faking it this whole time is disgusting, I have so many disagreements with Fantano however I absolutely know for a fact this Melon head genuinely cares deeply for and loves music, imaging making a Spider-Man channel and then years later after making enough money just to say "guys I don't actually care about Spider-Man at all, I just done this for money"

[@mylesstevens4367]

The second video I ever saw from the dude he was complaining about a punk band leaning too woke. Never watched anything from him again because that attitude is just completely incompatible with all things punk.

[@millennial_falcon2240]

his long winded jokes were so incredibly tired.

[@Goated_ChrisBreezy]

​@@mylesstevens4367I still don't know what the word "Woke" means lmao

[@expsharevideogames]

@@Chris24_ 100%

[@gangofgreenhorns2672]

In order to get out of work this dude devised a scam where he did something he hated for hours a day, lol.

[@ubahfly5409]

😂😂😂😂😂 Helluva comment.

[@maudlinfaust]

Holy shit

[@MFBloosh]

The irony 😂

[@Jay-gf8tm]

That's business baby

[@NeonBeeCat]

The grass is greener on the other side.

[@NiRvAnA6890]

Ive been telling my friedns for years now that guy was a poseur because everything he said sounded like a wikipedia entry and he would always use genre specific words like "traditional skate punk" and "post hardcore punk"

[@dudeonthasopha]

To do this with punk of all genres is a heinous crime in itself.

[@DadsChannel-gx3zj]

I started watching him a lot.. his main channel stuff was always about understanding and accepting certain artists, even if he didn’t like them. It was positive and uplifting. Then you’d watch his live streams or go on his discord and he was so negative, so hateful of so many artists and people. I got a bad feeling a few weeks in and stopped completely. Trust the gut I guess.

[@Taydutt13]

Dude is fake that's why I never followed him

[@TheReluctantVlogger]

Yea. It does come across as a tremendous crime against a genre that isn’t super well liked or well known (especially these days) in the first place. “Back in my day” pretending to like punk was a quick way to be made fun of hard. Ian MacKay would despise this guy lol.

[@mikebate6719]

Tbh I don't really trust any person or business that brands themselves as "punk" anymore, as they usually turn out to be the furthest thing from punk. (e.g. Brewdog in the UK)

[@digdugsmug]

I didn't watch him for very long, but while I did he hardly ever talked about punk rock. It was mostly but metal and modern subgenres of music. More evidence of how fake it all was?

[@yasin6904]

"hit his financial goals" is a euphemism for "I'm not making as much money as i hoped i would and ive hit the ceiling".

[@JamieChorley]

In his case, he has money coming in elsewhere and is in a position to take it or leave it with KZbin

[@MrJosexph]

Exactly. There is no making "enough" money when you are making good money for these types of people.

[@xXRichieDaggerXx]

"Hit my financial goals" is an amazing distraction from "people started talking about how I started dating my girlfriend when she was in high school and I was in my 30s". Do the research! He started getting ratioed so he's trying to control the narrative.

[@greystrangr]

As a long time PRMBA hater i am so fucking glad to be proven correct about a man

[@thegoatfromiowa8948]

Fr I always couldn’t stand that guy

[@dclikemtndew]

My first exposure to him was in a podcast, and the way he talked about his approach to content creation at the time pretty much gave it away. No surprise at all.

[@Robertsmith3828]

He’s always been a simultaneously smug and blatant loser who doesn’t know what the F he is talking about.

[@matildatheoboldt2261]

I always thought he had some pretty wild takes and opinions but makes sense now

[@TimlerFX]

Yeah something always seemed off about him. Some of his opinions just seemed so out of touch and now it totally makes sense.

[@RdCrestdBreegull]

every time he expressed his hate for ska I knew something was off about him. if you don’t at least respect ska something is wrong with you. dude probably doesn’t even understand what ska is.

[@perciusmandate]

This is bizarre. The guy is clearly lying through his teeth. My best guess is his ego won't allow him to admit his channel failed, so he's invented this bizarre story where he only ever cared about the money and he didn't actually fail. What a sad, strange little man.

[@davidsoux]

I’ve been saying on the post-hardcore subreddit that this man is fake and pretentious but people kept giving me shit for it.

[@dennyfader7559]

and he has my pity. Farewell!

[@ashadeofnight]

His channel didn't fail it was very successful. I think he just got sick at making the same videos over and over. He had done videos on all sizeable bands and the biggest ones many times.

[@Kaiser-in2od]

​@@davidsouxUnfortunately that seems to be the case for most "alternative" music scenes these days... Anytime I say anything in the punk movement everyone hates me until it comes out I was actually right. Then they still never give me credit lolz. "Underground" scenes are toast since social media became so prevalent. Fuckin sux.

[@LoveMyUnusual]

​@@dennyfader7559 "Good riddance, ya looney!"

[@brandonhammill8048]

He ran a metal and hardcore satire site in 09….I can’t imagine he was faking an interest in music the entire time. This is so strange.

[@Mazzocchi]

I know it was a while ago, but it's amazing to me how nearly everyone has forgotten about StuffYouWillHate/SargentD, which is seemingly exactly what he wanted

[@brandongore711]

​@@Mazzocchihe definitely does not want anyone to remember Sargent D. Lot of things he said back then reflect poorly on him.

[@anacondasqueeze]

@@Mazzocchii think it’s weird how everyone forgot about it. He does actively want people to forget about it. He’s made comments about how he was in weird place and doesn’t like how it makes him look.

[@OnTheRun111]

STUFFYOUWILLHATE

[@pageperpage]

Faking something for decades aint something new in mental health disorders. If he has some iderlying personality disorder, IF, just saying, it's possible

[@thegoblonoid]

He's just in his Joker phase from coping with all negative feedback and allegations. It's like the guy who gets dumped and says "I never loved you anyway".

[@aldown]

what are the "allegations"?

[@thegoblonoid]

@ that he groomed his wife when he was like in his 30s. Not saying it happened, it's just a rumor afaik.

[@solearesoul]

Exactly

[@thegoblonoid]

@@aldown That he groomed his wife. Allegedly. Not sure how much proof there is for this.

[@willowwisp4307]

Allegations?

[@clinerollins]

Finn always has the most inconsistent takes ever and you can never keep a good track record with him. He literally moved states when he was 18 because a lot of his favorite bands played there. His statement is definitely a reaction from the burnout of having to make essays about butt rock all the time and the bag not meeting the expectations anymore. Don’t take his words literally, he says shit depending on what his mood is that day.

[@rottingpages]

Why would anyone hire a marketing consultant who just voluntarily threw his brand and all of his social media appeal in the trash? That's the opposite of good marketing.

[@nielsB_FPV]

depression and burnout

[@supermarx]

@@nielsB_FPV Nah, he just got everything he could out of the people people he was exploiting and now he wants to rub it in their faces.

[@norinko7224]

​@@supermarx Throughout the entire time he was openly saying he hates making videos about 2000s rock and wanted to do other videos but noone was perceptive of that so it's obvious why he burnt out and doesn't like the old fans anymore

[@fugue7938]

This is what I was thinking? He wants to go into 'consulting' but actively ruined his reputation in this space. I wouldn't hire him lmao

[@kylegonewild]

@@norinko7224 Saying "I want to do other videos" but never doing those "other videos" demonstrates either cowardice or that it's just about the money.

[@infinitepossibility]

I unfollowed Finn a couple of years ago because he reeked of cynicism. But those comments about musicians are a different level, he's really telling on himself as terminally jaded and blinded by money.

[@mj.l]

sounds like cope to me. community hates him so he claims "i never even liked the music - it was all for money"

[@infinitepossibility]

@@mj.l I hope you're right, for his sake

[@Kwalk1989]

This comment is exactly how I feel, unsubbed from him years ago.

[@HarryBuddhaPalm]

I put him on my Do Not Recommend list a few months ago. His videos always felt like he was just reading a wikipeida page (which he was) and he struck me as an epic, judgemental prick (which he is).

[@murrayisarobot]

It was his taking sponsorship money from shitty gambling companies that did it for me. He was openly a hypocrite and he didn't care.

[@drgabi18]

Can't wait for Finn to post "If you're homeless just buy a house" on his LinkedIn

[@revivedfears]

It's literally as easy as that! Poor? Get money!!!

[@javierganzarain4559]

Yup, he's your average reagan neoliberal

[@davidb4935]

Isn't he a turbo libertarian? I'm taking the over on if he has already posted that kinda thing 😂

[@TheseBitchesWantNikes]

​@davidb4935 I'm not a libertarian at all but idk man, I think a lot of libertarians would even be like...wtf man.

[@revivedfears]

@@davidb4935 his missus tried to be the Asian Candice Owens but failed miserably. If that tells you anything about his political opinions.

[@Indymetal89]

Poser red flag was up from the beginning. You call yourself the Punk Rock MBA and you talk about every genre BUT Punk.

[@MostPretentiousMusicNerd-ux3ln]

I subscribed to his channel because I was just getting into punk. Got disappointed and checked out lol

[@nickmontanabass]

For real. The guy sounded a bit overrated when he was recommended to my account. I watched a couple of videos, but I had a feeling something was off about this guy, especially when he calls himself punk rock in his name, but pretty much never does talk about punk rock.

[@balkanscenekid]

The punk rock psyopp

[@kodiekulp]

😂

[@lvbboi9]

New band name.

[@DobriDG]

chakah tvoq komentar

[@futuristic.handgun]

Haha, this is great. 😂

[@vazurro_world]

lmao

[@goregrindisthebestgenre]

Insane cope on his part. Imagine being covered in band tattoos and saying “Musicians are a lost cause”.

[@supermarx]

It was always part of the grift.

[@ImpendingRiot83]

Like imagine saying this when you’re burning your own reputation to the ground by going “Hey yeah I was a colossal piece of inhuman trash this entire time and I loathe the human race and its creations” and having the nerve to call anyone else a lost cause.

[@nathanieledwards7150]

This needs more likes. Because THIS is possibly the most valid point.

[@pausebreakreviews]

@@supermarx Plenty of far easier and more lucrative grifts that don't require tattoos.

[@stephenrobinson8244]

I think he is lying to see who bites 😂

[@natos4unlife]

Calling musicians who aren't good at monetizing their art worthless is perhaps the most soulless bullshit I've heard in quite some time. Maybe somebody should tell him that seeing a person's value only measured in dollar dollar bills is the sort of thing that lead up to some recent violence

[@brianmattei7134]

Yeah like he isn't punk at all lol

[@uberboomer8670]

​@brianmattei7134 beat me to it, it's literally the most non-punk thing imaginable, from "the punk rock MBA"

[@nil_nux556]

dude, maximum agreement. these days an artist's talent depends on their sales. there was once a time when if someone sold a lot of records that was proof that they were no good (to a certain extent). in a medium where uniqueness and originality is king, having mass appeal should be an indicator that they're dropping the ball. of course there are exceptions but strictly judging an artist by how popular they are to an audience of normies is backwards as fuck.

[@ideitbawxproductions1880]

Hmm... what "recent violence" are you referring to? Maybe I need to catch up on the news

[@anthonyrowland9072]

@@brianmattei7134 It's ok to make money at your art and live a comfortable life. Alt culture can be an anchor on your life. It's not a vow of poverty. It's not "selling out"...

[@JenCool42069]

him platforming blaire white was so disappointing… being transphobic is not punk

[@LilView]

do you mean de-platforming

[@michaelkennedy2888]

Anyone whose passion is money has no true self.

[@HiIIzRelliking]

money is just a manifestation of power. no-one is passionate about power, only desperate for it

[@ابراهيم_محمد_الازهر]

Mr beast

[@revivedfears]

Thing is Finn did always say he secretly wanted to be a yuppie. Even as a kid when he supposedly did actually like the music he talked about. This is all something to save face cos his channel is done. He might have made those specific vids for money but to say he never liked any music is nonsense.

[@kylegonewild]

@@ابراهيم_محمد_الازهر"His passion isn't money. His passion is being "the biggest KZbinr Also why the fuck does replying to you right-justify all my fucking text and screw up the formatting wtf KZbin this shit doesn't happen when I respond to chinese usernames.

[@oklahomacityradiowaves5462]

You’re right, (((They))) have no true self

[@davidfirth]

I enjoyed his high production value coverage of bands from genres that are often overlooked by snooty critics, but something didn't feel right regarding his "personal taste" takes that found their way into every video. I just put it down to classic engagement bait, which it almost certainly was, but I always had this feeling of "did you actually even listen to that album/band?". He'd routinely dismiss some of the most important bands in every scene leaving me always thinking "how can a fan of that scene NOT like THAT band?". It was purposeful and makes a lot of sense now that he didn't like any of it.

[@RatchetSly]

It certainly explains a lot, aye. I think I watched... three? of his videos, ages ago, and got the feeling that he was either a contrarian or ragebaiting with a lot of his personal opinions that I saw. From how standoffish he was in these interview clips, it seems the answer is "both".

[@LaurenOliviArt]

Oh hey Salad Fingers !!! ❤😊

[@LucyAyler]

Hey David love your work. Yeah, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if there are more people just like him throughout the music industry. In fact, I’m very certain that many music executives don’t like the music they’re making and have ulterior motives for pursuing it (albeit money, power, or even sex trafficking like we saw with Harvey Weinstein types)

[@TBonifide]

I knew something wasn’t connecting there. I guess it’s easy to throw out contrarian takes if you have literally no interest in what you’re talking about lol. Love your Sock videos by the way!

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

David Firth wow. Awesome seeing you here, what metal/punk genres do you listen to?

[@the_Googie]

breaking: music reviewer turns out to not have ears: "i cant hear shit"

[@blarghblargh]

okay time for me to stop scrolling. that was the dopamine hit I needed.

[@Zoombeanie132]

Funniest thing I've read all day, thank you for that😂

[@HENRIVICTORIOUS1]

10/10

[@supershaw09]

Best comment

[@SeekTruth28]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@svilens.viktorov485]

The "Which band should I talk about next" polls he was doing make so much sense now.

[@witchx2005]

i call bullshit on him 'not liking music'. finn used to write a music blog in the early 2010s and name dropped super unknown local bands from my area and talked about things like he actually knew or had a connection to the poppunk, emo, and metalcore scenes.

[@doofwarrior9912]

He in the cia 😂😂😂

[@nobaitallkate]

it was a pretty good blog too!

[@harmzyz0682]

Yeah him saying something like “I lost my passion for music” instead of saying he never gave a shit seems more accurate. Idk maybe he is telling the full truth, but his past doesn’t really reflect that like you said

[@jph4889]

He’s absolutely kidding. I just don’t believe that he meant that sincerely.

[@Realoemo]

Yeah but he hasn’t worked on that blog in so many years, I’ve always seen him as a corny scumbag; I assume his early videos were genuine but he was clearly burnt out from KZbin even year or two into his career later.

[@noahporter4487]

Calls music fans “low vibration” people then proceeds to talk about how inauthentic of a person he is lol

[@Dragon-Believer]

I always had zero respect for Finn. But I believe he never liked music. Does anyone actually like punk rock? It's just a bunch of posers.

[@jjbenavidez6]

U LIED about ur music views U LIED about diversity U LIED about ur knowledge and ur past-tense, all is perjury

[@BOAYang]

You run to KZbin when you need a few dollars No, you not a colleague, you a fuckin' colonizer

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

(YOU LIED) (YOU LIED) (YOU LIED)

[@DigginThrough.MyOldMuscles.]

Peach reference? Or tool reference? 🤔

[@paythewave]

Or kendrick

[@Goated_ChrisBreezy]

Meet the Graham's was so awful, dude spent 2 minutes on a verse about a Daughter that doesn't exsist lol; awful track. Euphoria is so clear

[@MortonCammar]

This is literally the first time I have ever heard this. I'm into a lot of metal so I saw this guy's videos a lot. Genuinely crazy that he claims he never even liked music, he even had his own playlist he would plug filled with like metalcore, hardcore and death stuff. I just find it hard to believe, I'm sort of convinced he's just making it up to make himself more famous upon leaving KZbin or to get some sort of revenge or something. Either that or he's a phenomenal actor cause he did genuinely seem passionate about some of the stuff he covered, especially earlier on in his career (stuff like 2010s scenecore, hardcore and metalcore in general.) Maybe he's more referring to the stuff he talked about later that deviated from these genres. Cause I agree it's so unlikely he'd start his channel on a topic he hates.

[@nicktallfox5266]

Me: _*has no idea who Finn McKenty is_ Anthony: 'He has a background in marketing.' Me: *has James Somerton flashbacks

[@Collin_J]

Damnit now I have to watch the hbomberguy saga again

[@nicktallfox5266]

@Collin_J Hold on, I'll get the popcorn. Also, imma watch the Todd In The Shadows debunking of Somerton afterwards.

[@Akrostix]

I watch that monolith of a takedown video weekly

[@fireflybutton1939]

@@nicktallfox5266 it's basically a manditory double feature at this point

[@cmgoodell]

I'm glad others are seeing those parallels! Only this guy made his financial goals.

[@bichardrutler2926]

He always came across as a guy who was extremely jaded and bitter about his time in the underground music scene, which is not uncommon, but Finn seemed to harbor an extreme amount of ill will towards the scene and the people from the scene in general. His common refrain was always something like "look at these losers who spent so many years in the scene and never made a ton of money", as if he simply could not comprehend the idea that people would spend time and effort at something without the expectation of material gain.

[@alonedownthere47]

yeah he gave me the vibe of a guy who got bullied in the 90s and got made fun of by people he thought was cool, so once he turned 40 he wanted to act like this wise old head that could tell kids what was good and bad and also call them virgins and bully them for liking the wrong music. deeply depressing guy

[@jeffnicholas6342]

@@alonedownthere47he’s a capitalist trying to hangout with punk and hardcore kids. Punk and hardcore kids aren’t fans of capitalism

[@leebarbs7176]

Honestly as someone who spent time tour managing I've seen a ton of older cats who washed out of the scene/couldnt make it/etc make a 180 into hating everything to do with it (versus admitting to themselves they wanted a life in it & failed for whatever reason) Its definitely envy in a lot of those cases at its root, which sucks because there's no shame in either calling your run over or just trying again a different way... Or some big time artist slept with his wife lol

[@bernardi5919]

If you believe in "low vibration people" and "high vibration people" to begin with you have no right to call anyone smoothbrained, that's one of the most smoothbrained concepts in modern spirituality.

[@muscleandhate]

Deffo. Also us punks didn't want this guy with his conservative rubbish and his pretentious yet boring takes

[@Richard-d1y]

As terms they might not say much, but most of us understand. We've all been around cool, kind people, and we've all been around dicks. And you can feel the difference. Call it what you want, but it's real.

[@Passageofsky]

Especially with how soulless this guy is, low vibration person for sure lol

[@PedroGeaquinto]

Why do I (not American, never been in the states) think this spiritual good vibes psychopathy is a west coast thing? Am I right, do any of you feel like that? Is that at least a trope?

[@nwildcat]

​@@PedroGeaquintoit's become more widespread in the American cultural lingo these days

[@ryanbellegrave9777]

I haven't watched one of your videos in a very long time (6+ years) but I appreciate how far you've come. This is sad. I've spoken to Finn a few times and could always pick up on a bit of contempt under the surface but I'm also wrong about people all the time. We spoke about marketing and SEO so this aspect of the conversation was lacking. Great analysis.

[@storkksoundmedia7778]

Finn never struck me as “diy” or “punk” His “I’m better than you” attitude about people with substance use disorders, his hyper capitalistic way of viewing the world, judging “success” based on record sales. “gotta respect the numbers! Gotta respect the hustle” I have a lot of friends who are cops!”, “I have a lot of friends in the industry”, Talk about mutual aid or something if you’re so “diy” or “punk” That’s not even mentioning his wife

[@javierganzarain4559]

I know everything you said until his wife, what's up with her?

[@OGAshton]

I remember he had a video about minor threat (I think) where he was complaining that most punks at the time “blamed all their problems on society and the police”.

[@TallicaMan1986]

​@@javierganzarain4559nothing. It just people are still uncomfortable with 18 year olds and 30 year olds. Hooking up, which yeah makes sense, but its legal so yeah.

[@arthurr.r.lucasspublicdoma5621]

​@@javierganzarain4559apparently she was 18 and he was in his 30s when they got together.

[@KatzDawn]

The fact that he based his whole brand around punk but anytime he mentioned any vaguely political band would have to go on an aside about how he doesn't support their politics, always rubbed me the wrong way

[@breakingtherelapse]

Finn always came off disingenuous to me, especially when he kept pushing ads for garbage microtransaction videogames.

[@TenThumbsProductions]

I don’t believe he doesn’t like music. I don’t believe this. It feels more like extreme burnout than a genuine explanation.

[@brandonhammill8048]

Agreed. He was writing about music online for like 15 years. He essentially became a nu metal channel for the $, which he admitted to in some vids, but to be like “I was faking an interest in music period” seems so weird.

[@JeremyGBranch]

Same.

[@seanyoung9014]

He's a groomer and got outed. That's why he's really quitting.

[@PACKTdotSPACE]

I totally disagree. He always gave me grifter vibes. I don't think I ever made it through a whole video, even for bands I really was interested in.

[@fliproleluwu5602]

I agree, he showed passion for hardcore and a lot of bands the same way he talked about money. But man, money rotted his life and brain

[@superspak]

Great video, I had know about him in passing seeing memes on FB, but he always felt like a tool, probably partially his online persona and real life combined. Funny story is I never saw your channel until now, subbed. I randomly have been following the picture of you at the Death Grips concert everyday on FB 😅

[@Kazimi3r]

I feel bad for the interviewer. Dude basically said Finn was an inspiration of his to Finn's face and Finn was like, yeah man it was all fake trash and I hate it and don't even know anything about what I was talking about and I think people who watched me are stupid... Finn is literally the old head punk rocker who sold out. I always got a weird vibe from Finn but the fact that he just owned all of it and didn't care is CRAZY...

[@bibiinspades1953]

I saw that in Finn along time ago lol he was always a poser to me

[@hardlyworking_]

the oldhead gen-x punk rocker trope is so common these days, really makes you wonder what tf they thought punk rock was and how they completely missed the point

[@JakeRanney]

Absolutely psychopathic behavior

[@Blackmamba-ce3nb]

you need to be a legit psychopath to make that much content about something you don’t enjoy

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

burnout behaviour

[@farimer1232]

“If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.” -J.R.R. Tolkien

[@SM-nz9ff]

True if magic existed we wouldn't need money now would we. But we do need money

[@thomaslewis3170]

Lotr isn't like Harry Potter where u can just conjure up food. They still gotta farm bro. ​@@SM-nz9ff

[@cold_acorns1118]

@@SM-nz9ff bro what the fuck are you talking about

[@fullmetal929]

​@@SM-nz9ff Lmao, why do ppl do this thing where they intentionally misinterpret something just so they can get mad about the interpretation they made up?

[@SM-nz9ff]

@@fullmetal929 Then why are you so mad. Empty quotes are indeed empty and meaningless. And then you got outta fantasy land and went to work

[@JawrL95]

Especially in his second channel and twitch highlights he NO DOUBT has some interest in music. Especially Grunge and Hardcore history, he loves dirty old raw death metal and even released a slam EP. Praying for my dude I hope he’s doing good. Anyways I’m glad he’s focusing on fatherhood and being a family man, but something is off here.

[@CaptainKreepingDeath]

It's so weird to hear him claim to not care about music when he used to write for MetalSucks, he's covered in music related tattoos, is friends with a bunch of notable musicians, and made a whole parody grindcore album called "enpedestalment". He comes off now like a cynical crybaby that this content career didn't pan out how he wanted, so rather than just say that he's unhappy with the state of his channel he's acting like that kid who claims he didn't want to play anyway when he's losing Anyway, I was briefly a fan, and he had decent chemistry with Fat Mike from NOFX when they did some podcasts together, but I don't see this as a major loss all things considered

[@BlueBeetle1939]

I think you nailed it he's the classic "if you won't play by MY rules I'm taking my ball and going home" type dweeb. He's upset he's no longer seen as cool or influential

[@AddisonSandoval]

How do we know he was actually friends with notable musicians now? Can't trust anything he's ever said now.

[@valetudo90]

He's trolling, he clearly liked music, I would watch him streams, not his scripted videos, he knew a lot, he's just being a dick

[@HENRIVICTORIOUS1]

He's quitting cuz he's a creep.. this is a smokescreen

[@Elriuhilu]

On the other hand, many professional video game reviewers clearly don't care about or enjoy video games.

[@NopeNoperson]

That guy probably has far more skeletons in his closed than we initially thought. So, I guess he chose to "cancel" himself before he got cancelled. Burning bridges with his entire audience...kinda sus to me. 👀

[@dlwseattle]

I absolutely agree with that. I am an old man, and I have said this very thing about so many people throughout my life. Jay-Z just recently says he is innocent for one specific thing and person he is being accused by, but he has been paying people off and is surely guilty of so many more things than this one thing they may have gotten wrong - but he probably did that thing too. just because you get away with something doesn't make you innocent!

[@ifiwantyoutofeel]

Diddy

[@mattcook3801]

His missus is a RWNJ content creator, he can’t be bothered talking about any potentially lefty music anymore.

[@Meun]

@@mattcook3801 what is an RWNJ content creator? I assume RW is right wing but what is NJ?

[@bichardrutler2926]

the guy claimed to unironically listen to pornogrind. That alone should tell you enough about his character.

[@8thFurno]

Just when I thought I couldn't have any less respect for Finn McKenty, he drops this one on us. I always knew he was only in it for the money, but I still thought he (on some level) cared about the music he talked about, either because he listened to it when he was younger or it was what he started out making videos about. But to hear him just openly admitting that he never cared whatsoever is just the ultimate slap in the face to any credit I could have ever given him. I'll admit I used to like his videos, but I fell out of love with them after began to see just how bare bones, formulaic and lacking in substance they really were, with the only goal being money. Honestly I'm glad he quit, never wanna see him again. GOOD RIDDANCE!

[@BlueBeetle1939]

Part of it seems like sour grapes like clearly he at some point cared about punk and hardcore he didn't run stuffyoueillhate cause it payed well from my perspective it looks like he's upset he's no longer consider cool or an insider

[@dorianleakey]

​@@BlueBeetle1939he is lying now, trying to manage the conflict between different opinions he held in the past and now, his cognitive dissonance.

[@ubahfly5409]

This shit is hilarious 😂

[@cringeRick_Lamar]

Really feel this. You would never doubt the authenticity of creators like , say, Mic the Snare. IMO. IDK the propulsion of genuine passion for the content or art one exudes can be detected the same imperceptible way a dog can sense their owner's imminent petit mal seizure,

[@futuristic.handgun]

​@@BlueBeetle1939100%, you hit the nail on the head! This exactly what it is.

[@GlynDwr-d4h]

Even if he wasn't really jazzed about nu metal or whatever, FInn is smart and that came across on his videos, which made them fun and interesting to watch. I think his exit is hilarious and on brand. Also, if you've watched his channel long enough, you'll realize that he's trolling a bit. He's talked about his own history as a metal fan and that would be kind of hard to fake, so it's clear he really *is* is a music fan. I think he's just giving metal autists a much deserved middle finger. Also, the attempt to cancel him over the age gap with his wife is just pathetic. If that was a reason for him to quit, it's perfectly understandable. I don't blame him.

[@Poomayne]

As others who can read between the lines and know Finn’s history have pointed out, the “I don’t care about music and only did it for money” things is definitely cope and a lie 😂. This dude has metal and hardcore tattoos decades old and has been involved in the hardcore , punk and metal scene since the 90s writing zines, making a slam band, writing blogs and art work, friends with people in those bands and even did podcasts with them, got to private events with them etc. He’s definitely burnt out and bitter because he couldn’t make the music content he wanted for the money and views he wanted. Eventually creating the music nostalgia slop he hated making because it got the most engagement and that didn’t excite him wore him down.

[@constantly-confused5736]

Finn was always a "money"-guy. I stopped watching his videos when he kept going on about respecting bands that "made it big" and "got deals with major labels". I mean I don't hate bands that do these things, but i found it weird how Finn kept putting an emphasis on these things. Like... he respected bands mostly because of their commercial success and their music and their artistic vision and integrity was only secondary (if even that). ...I noticed these things years ago... the current development fits these observations. I mean if he never really cared about the music itself that would explain his focus on other aspects like a band's financial success. Edit: Finn was (for me) always an antithesis to the DIY-mentality of punk rock which I value very highly. That's why I didn't enjoy his content.

[@omfgcarpetmuncher]

100%

[@Battlebloodlust]

Seriously there's no way he's "just doing it for the money"

[@Poomayne]

@@constantly-confused5736 Lol, so dude spent the better part of 30 year of life heavily involved in the scene and even making music himself and you think it was all a ploy for money? Y’all can’t be this dense.

[@Matt-yj1lz]

​​​​​​​​@@PoomayneSure he liked some punk type bands when he was a kid but he said it himself multiple times. He hates it and he only likes pop music. But that's not even why I quit watching his stuff. It's because he always sht on people for music they liked and then preached people that did that were losers. He's a hypocrite.

[@SomeBlackGuy]

I didn't watch much of his content, but I find it hard to believe it was all JUST for money. There are easier ways to make money on this platform rather than compiling punk and rock content together while also interviewing band members. I mean, just become a right wing grifter and make videos on how every video game is gay and woke

[@thegreatgambeeno]

The people who grew up passionate about these genres of music are very nostalgic and like to rehash what they consider the glory days. He saw a spot to get in where many didn't try, and sadly his approach is actually antithetical to what punk and rock was supposed to be about. But people don't care about passion anymore, it's all about money and clout.

[@andreasvieregg6190]

He used to enjoy making videos about topics he liked, but when he ran out he made all the Wikipedia list videos he never wanted to make. The fact that there's a System of a Down video in the first place means the writing was on the wall

[@IrishMan7475]

His wife did that and she sucked at it lol

[@butHomeisNowhere___]

Yeah this seems like he's having some kind of episode or something. He made a video recently about Art and it came off as well thought and sincere... and none of it was just from Wikipedia. Idk, this is strange

[@CyberHangman]

I can't confirm this, but his behavior tells me he might be an industry plant. Far left and far right are offended that punk and metal even exist; they'll trash talk its content without watching or listening to it, if they can make money from it

[@thisismyCoolFace]

I kept expecting him to go into rightwing culture war content with the way he talked about any left leaning artists.

[@marckemper4902]

he might still do that

[@dedgrips]

oh he will. his wife already does.

[@michaelgeary9370]

oh dude will be on some podcasts soon for sure

[@larsland]

His wife had a right wing type channel that flopped

[@AxxmorbidfloristxxC]

Uh oh, Bad boy had conservative adjacent views. What the fvk does that have to do with anything? he has done shady enough sht to call him out on. You know people can be conservative and still be decent human beings right? God you yuppys are all the same. Only difference is you are larping as the counter culture.

[@robbiepayne8492]

He's lying...he couldn't handle it that he fell off and people weren't watching him anymore so this is him trying to take his ball and go home

[@Tacom4ster]

I remember when he talked about metal, and he sounded so whiny about it, that I questioned if he even like metal

[@BigOwl51]

Imagine throwing a tantrum because a random guy didn’t like your favorite metal album. Y’all are sad 😂

[@SixteenJacobsCreams]

@@BigOwl51 Eh? Who's throwing a tantrum?

[@dyrr836]

@@BigOwl51 Hi Finn

[@Purplepentapus_]

You're surprised that the guy who named his channel after punk rock wasn't into metal?...

[@zipzip8239]

@@Purplepentapus_ he was supposedly into hardcore which comes from metal and can be easily mistaken for metal by the average person. its not a stretch.

[@aml4]

I read his zine in the late 90's, I found it at a local record store because he had interviewed a local band from my city. 20+ years later I found his channel on youtube and realized it was the same guy! I always liked his videos because he came in the same scene as me at the same time (i.e. people born after 1980 and got into punk and hardcore). But he started to cover things that were less interesting to me. Once I asked him on Facebook why he discontinued a series of videos - responded that he liked doing them but they didn't get enough views. I wondered, why not just do things you love and get less views? Him saying he doesn't like music seems like he's just pissed and burned out. Its a bummer. I hope he finds peace.

[@777mxr]

This is real proof he's lying about never liking music.

[@CrabSully]

Yeah, I never understood why he considered every video had to be successful. I think it's okay to flop sometimes, as a content creator. It's better for your overall brand to bring sincerity to the channel. Fantano is a good example of this - his niche videos don't do huge numbers, but without them, he'd lose a bit of the magic of his channel.

[@BatDance666]

This is a real bummer, I enjoyed his content. I never watch music commentary and I've never come across someone similar.

[@uhhhmaeve]

As someone who was in his Discord for a while - I remember when his shift from when he was talking about stuff he was interested in that flopped (like videos about hyperpop and emo-rap) to “fuck it if people want the Wikipedia reciting I’m giving them that”, and after that it seems to have basically killed his interest in music at all, that’s what I think he was going for that said the Blaire White shit was criiiiiinge

[@morbideddie]

Yeah, that’s the vibe I get. He genuinely liked music and content creation, but the algorithm and audience wanted basic Wikipedia tier content so he catered to that because he has mouths to feed at the end of the day. And that isn’t a secret, he has discussed this for years now, so it isn’t really a revelation. Kinda sad because while he definitely had some controversial takes he always had different takes and a unique perspective based on his history.

[@mj.l]

@@morbideddie he sucks. easily replaced.

[@heter0flexual623]

@@morbideddie i think it's indirectly caused by nobody giving af abt what he made unless it was about nu metal

[@morbideddie]

@ I mean, yeah. The Wikipedia tier stuff that made him popular is easily replaceable by Wikipedia. We don’t need anyone to make those videos. But the humour of his stream videos and some of his genuinely deep genre knowledge and insights are hard to replace. Compare him to Nik Nocturnal. Can you imagine Finn not knowing what War metal is? Do you think Nic knows Abruptum or Havohej? I like Nik but we are talking about people on different levels there.

[@joaorufino4952]

That's exactly what I wanted to comment, it's that the audience that he decided to cater his content to eventually made him not care about music and just view it as a vehicle to monetization. Because he's marketing and history approach to his earlier work was really cool, honestly I have not looked up about music and artists the same way again, and appreciated those artists that became successful that I love more, it's a really sad fall from grace. Also Idk how you can make a Blair White interview and talk to her about politics when he also interviewed Connie Sgarbossa from SeeYouSpaceCowboy, every single political move lately as been a spit in the face on his more progressive content like his video about Racism in Metal and the calling out misogyny in Deathcore and Slam.

[@nicholasdonin1465]

Always enjoyed the content. I'll miss it. I thinklike most things, when passion becomes work, you lose that passion. And i think he was covering more music that he didn't like, that he resented it.

[@FDSignifire]

How you culture vulture your own people 😂

[@slimekuniva6348]

hes like akademiks unc

[@JuiceCampbell]

How do you pull the race card in every single thought you have?

[@mikeylikesit2675]

Uhh, the point is he *isnt* our people, he was just ‘tending for the loot, like a prostitute.

[@xDetroitMetalx]

I've watched many of his videos as a metal head and was even subscribed to him before. I've never considered him as anyone I'd actually like to hang out with. Unlike your content, which is well thought out and passionate, his content came off as edge lord poser shit to piss off the masses and generate uneeded drama. When folks called him out he'd bitch and complain that the "younger crowd" were all posers that didn't understand him. He's always been a hater, fuckem.

[@metalheadedtothemax]

​@@JuiceCampbell How do you captainsavethewhites every comment 😂

[@mattmurray07]

I always got the vibe that he was a "hustle culture" LinkedIn weirdo type. Dude would probably trade his wife in for Apple stock.

[@now-semen-up]

his 17 year old wife

[@dannydanumba]

I feel bad to anyone that donated to his streams. Bros a professional panhandler

[@zdoggzero6595]

He’s from the northwest, of course he’d sell his left ball for a quick buck if it came down to it

[@TrueTristan]

​@@zdoggzero6595what has that to do with the north west?

[@zdoggzero6595]

@@TrueTristan the sheer abundance of linkedin tech bros that have overtaken the region the last half decade

[@dpclerks09]

Jaded, Disenchanted, AND ungrateful? Shocker. You could tell he's dead behind the eyes in his videos. No sense of purpose in life, besides "get da bag bruh".

[@kylegonewild]

@@zogwort1522 That's not a purpose that's a goal. If I asked what your purpose was in life and you said "collect as many expensive cars as possible" you would rightly get a weird look and a follow-up question "what purpose does that goal serve?" People who are addicted to money are coping with something in their lives they are unhappy or insecure about. Nobody's purpose in life is to collect cats and when someone spends all their time collecting more and more cats we rightly point out it's a problem. Unfortunately money buys you power in our society so people who desperately wish they had more power handwave this specific addiction that is particularly destructive to society and the person's personality.

[@icaris78]

I feel like I was forced to listen to System of a Down because the industry machine was pushing them . I grew up in the 80s so we were acclimated to way better metal. Mba has no passion in his craft . Recording artists move like this too. To many people getting checks 💴 off the art 🖼️ who have zero passion for it imo .

[@IndianaBrad]

I knew he was a bit sus when he did a video about how Henry Rollins sholuld drop the loner schtick, as if Henry's personality was a marketing gimmick. Sometimes accusations are really confessions.

[@TwelveTwelveEightTwo]

His video on Henry Rollins went at Henry, ostensibly for being a loaner who preferred to do things on his own, something Henry never denies and is open about. That was a moment where I felt his mask slipped. I avoided his stuff after as it seemed disingenuous.

[@CasaVipera]

EXACTLY THIS!

[@horzhrw]

Yeah, his criticism of Rollins seemed to boil down to "He doesn't have a wife and doesn't like modern edm, what an out-of-touch fogey," without reflecting on the fact that Rollins has addressed his personal life and preferences openly for years now.

[@bogscholar691]

Look, I know marketing and ultra-profit-focused people are often very empty, but good *grief* hearing him talk about music and musicians like that was so soulless that it actually surprised me. Art is one of the most essential and unique elements of human existence - I genuinely can’t imagine how a person can have such bizarre priorities and ideas about fulfillment and success. It makes me sad.

[@SavageGreywolf]

To complete a marketing degree you actually have to prove that your flesh burns when it comes into contact with holy water

[@mramisuzuki6962]

@@SavageGreywolfmarketing majors, architects, and theatre majors are the Holy Trinity of Corrosively Weird.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

@@SavageGreywolf Bill Hicks was ahead of the curve.

[@Lance1805]

I'm not buying it. He probably has gotten jaded from negative backlash, and he's trying to act apathetic.

[@caitlinelizabeth7808]

Guys like Finn are why I haven’t touched LinkedIn since 2012.

[@knownaigm]

This dude's "wealth of knowledge" always felt like "I read a wikipedia page" to me, especially when it came to topics I personally know about.

[@fuzzmosisr8601]

Real... It was pretty obvious and a lot of people could see it.

[@formless_dev]

It works because most people that watch his videos just want to have their opinions validated, not to learn anything or get a different perspective. They have very little knowledge about the subject, so even a 5 minute wiki skim is enough to convince them.

[@MayonnaiseOreo]

It 100% was just reading Wikipedia and skipping over important facts/context about bands. His AFI and Underoath videos made it super obvious he had no clue what he was talking about.

[@wide_awake]

Exactly

[@rixbyte7438]

Especially regarding metal.

[@neolbioldey]

Always saw Finn as a bit of a crybaby. He'd make fun of all the people that hated on him but when you say you disagree with him, he throws the same insults at you

[@HellSpartanZ]

Sounds just like fantano too 😂

[@neolbioldey]

@HellSpartanZ huh, I thought fantano was too big of a figure to interact with his fans

[@jeremycunningham7897]

Aaah at last! I wondered where Finn had gone. I quite liked his second channel particularly. Not sure I believe all this lex Luther stuff tho…. He went thru a phase of makin cringe vids with his wife a while back where u can see it’s her who’s very much in charge! He just shuffled around agreeing … Not that that matters but I’m unconvinced, not buying the big ‘gotcha’ KZbin scam plot. Am glad the mystery now solved tho cos that channel just disappeared overnight man! Many thanks for balanced info. Much Appreciated! :)

[@tyler6722]

Throwing it all away to be a LinkedIn influencer is insane 😂😂😂

[@LilAnnThrax]

This is the part that gets me. LinkedIn?! Really?

[@niRtywa_starcvnt]

Linkedin of all places.

[@evildungeonwizard]

fr i thought that was the website where you look for a job

[@avalinah]

It's funny cause it's mostly toxic positivity grifts out there 😂 and he says they're all making big money. Sure they are! Selling crypto courses!! 😂

[@terremoto6663]

LinkedIn bio: "I built a KZbin channel, it took years, I made some revenue, and than I destroyed all the work in one interview. I am available for children's parties now."

[@terribletimes902]

This guy is actually an NPC. Anyone who sees a creative endeavor as purely transactional cannot be trusted

[@marioargiropoulos7555]

He’s lying. Dude has been involved in the hardcore scene a long time going back a couple decades. Posting on message boards 15 years ago and being covered in band tats wasn’t part of some master plan to get rich. He’s just bitter, disillusioned, and burnt out. And sadly went with the childish “I never gave a shit anyway and you’re all dumb lol” defense.

[@daisywrabbit]

fun fact: Serj Tankian of System of a Down also studied marketing -wikipedia

[@gjwlsgh]

Dude made a software for jewelers and was pretty successful.

[@unforg1v3n]

List 3 more facts and you can replace Finn.

[@Metallizombie]

And they’ve been great at it. Much like rage, they pretend to be counter culture enemies of capitalism all the while making millions from expensive tickets and merch sales.

[@selanryn5849]

So did a couple members of Imagine Dragons.

[@TayTayMakesBeats]

"What a splendid pie! Pizza pizza pie. Every minute, every second, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy!"

[@Supreme-Mentalman]

He clearly is a music expert even if he doesn’t ‘enjoy’ making music about it.

[@ThatDudeinBlue]

I seriously couldn’t imagine being a content creator that long in a subject I didn’t give a damn about. Blows my mind. Sounds like a miserable time.

[@marioargiropoulos7555]

He’s lying. He’s just bitter and doesn’t want to show that criticism got to him.

[@chrisgonz19]

Funny to see you here lol!

[@sebastianbardon391]

The right wing grifters turned it into a quite profitable industry.

[@zoebella314]

​@@sebastianbardon391how, Finn was a Liberal, he said he supported Climate Change activism, and was a Vegan. Are you saying right wingers rage/hate watched him for several years?

[@sebastianbardon391]

@@zoebella314 I meant the likes of Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Stephen Crowder, etcetc.They don't care about trans athletes but get paid millions to cry and whine about it.

[@AragonTajes]

"i did it for the money and now i have money so i kit" is a good way to avoid the real question here: how old was ur wife when u meet her?

[@teethgrinder83]

I've seen a few comments like this now-whats it all about?

[@slartibartfast7921]

lol, yeah, that’s what I was thinking.

[@hitthegoat]

@@teethgrinder83they started dating when she was 18 and he was like 30 or some shit. There’s speculation that they had been talking well before she was 18

[@tvcoveredwalls429]

I never heard abt this, how old was she?

[@apmartini70]

Was that info from Ferris’s sister’s best friend’s cousin’s wedding photographer?

[@Christian-w5t7x]

In my opinion, Finn definitely cared about music - he stopped caring because he got jaded and burnt out, and in order to protect (or maybe purposely destroy?) his fragile ego/identity, he's fronting like he never cared in the interview. A few months ago, he uploaded a video (the title escapes me, but you can look it up) where he plainly admits to being completely creatively bankrupt & out of ideas, and is more or less asking his audience for their advice on where he should take things, which frankly, is an embarrassing & vulnerable position to be in for a channel of his stature. It's very evident in that video that he is extraordinarily disillusioned & unhappy with how his KZbin / content creation career panned out. I also remember him talking somewhere about being completely fed up with the negative/disrespectful comments, so that definitely added fuel to the fire. So keeping all of these details in mind, this interview he did where he purposely behaves standoffish & rude is - in my opinion - done on purpose as a form of masochistic self sabotage but also as an F you to his fanbase but also detractors, who he has just naturally grown to hate, because he ended up more or less failing at content creation. It's very clear to me that he is just extremely disappointed in himself, spiteful, and upset with how things have turned out with his KZbin career. Nothing in this interview he participated in, is genuine in my opinion. Like I said, it's all a big, calculated F you to seemingly anyone who's ever watched him. He hates KZbin, and I suppose by extension, hates all of his former viewers. I liked (some) of Finn's content, and like Anthony said, the guy was consistent and delivered decent content regularly (apart from cringey politics but in fairness to him, there are far worse & more aggravating political commentators on this site). Still, I don't know why Finn wants to completely destroy/tarnish his legacy. I guess his KZbin career really just made him that nihilistic and bitter.

[@supermarx]

He came into it to exploit people and he succeeded, this is his victory lap where he spits in the faces of anyone who ever engaged with his content.

[@UGLY-MONEY17]

Spot on

[@insertnamehere6227]

​@@supermarx Not really a victory lap if you're dejected, burnout, and miserable. A pity party sure, but "Lul I did something I hated for years and it mentally and emotionally drained me, but I made a lot of money (questionable) doing it!" Isn't really something worth congragulating.

[@KusanagiMotoko100]

I agree with you, this is just a fuck you to his former audience and a way of coping.

[@Johnny5eyes]

Summed him up 100% I reckon.

[@cttate]

Didn't make enough to fix that lag apparently