He's Back

[@animamaster]

The amount of people that are defending Dani Alves and saying that this is all a flase flag, and trying to blame the victim is a worrying sign for the future of our society

[@brendanrodgers9753]

HALA MADRID ❤❤❤

[@el_verav]

it's so sad how misogyny is so ingrained in football culture, you'd hope that the new generations would fight back against it, but just look at figures like Andrew Tate or fucking Joey Barton in yesterday's video and most often than not is young people defending and spouting their hateful ideas. it's depressing

[@ronel7836]

And then there people like you and the comment below that prove there people that are level headed, and sensible, its just the vocal minority bitching about it

[@JacquesduPlessis11]

Sadly, it is a big problem in football. Just look how many people support Greenwood too, and we have the recording of him being disgusting. Some people just are the worst.

[@Reaper_ginger]

@@JacquesduPlessis11the support for greenwood is disgusting. I’m a United fan and the amount of posts and comments about wanting him back at the club is ridiculous.

[@mortiphago]

man i love this side channel, seems like Z has endless stuff to talk about

[@brendanrodgers9753]

MLS SUCKS 😂😂

[@jamesbaurus5928]

​@@brendanrodgers9753my dude, can I have whatever you're smoking? You seem to be on one tonight

[@Topav05]

That big forehead ain't for nothing

[@futgamer811]

Did you know that those 150.000 euros were actually donated by Neymar? Alves got his money frozen by Spain's justice and then Neymar donated that 150 thousand euros to help his friend to get the minimum sentence

[@OrlovKruskayev]

Best part of the Ronaldinho story is that you don't need a passport to enter Paraguay from brazil, just your national registration document. No one knows what the fuck he was doing

[@gabsnandes7818]

Now that you mentioned that, it feels way more shady than it seemed

[@joaopiva1977]

Rumor has it that he wanted to be a champion in prison football as well lmao

[@OrlovKruskayev]

@@joaopiva1977 honestly wouldnt put it past the man

[@funky.bandit]

i wouldnt care if Zealand starts making videos in this channel about any topic at this point, these videos are great

[@JHRacer]

WE NEED SOME HISTORY DISCUSSION

[@GamerFlair]

If I understand this correctly. He was on the website, he was removed because of this situation and then his been added back. Only thing I can think of, is a bad website rollback. I find it plausable that Barcelona's website admin is as awful as thier general management and managed to accidently rollback the website changes.

[@brendanrodgers9753]

Nigeria

[@NJTRAF]

That would be my hope, that’s it’s an error, something went wrong and it’s been rolled back. It’s likely to be that, but if it wasn’t then it’s so stupid.

[@loduca16]

They never should have removed him in the first place. The criminal case and his awful behavior have nothing to do with his footballing career.

[@Jayumzzz]

​@@loduca16Seems pretty fair that your 'club legend' status gets revoked if it turns out that you're a rapist. Don't want your career affected? Keep kicking the ball and don't sexually assault people - easy. 🤷‍♂️

[@Battledongus]

He's still there though.

[@phrophetsamgames]

Barcelona: removes Dani Alves from their Legends site pending his court case* Me: Ah very smart to do that so they can reinstate him if he's found Not Guilty or don't reinstate him if he is Guilty. Barcelona: Reinstates Alves after he is found guilty* 💀

[@jamesbaurus5928]

Literally, the fricken dumbest club lately 😬

[@robiatimeap]

Anyone who has listened to the mason greenwood tapes is in no doubt of his guilt but he still gets to play football and live his life just because the girl dropped the charges and refused to take it further, and yes I'm well aware of why she did that.

[@MarcosGarcia-pj3pq]

can’t wait for Zealands video on the state of reffing in La Liga after that Real v Valencia game

[@casteri]

What's the most bewildering thing about this is that they added him back. While I wouldn't agree with it, I could see why they might not remove him before the conviction or even after with the reasoning of something like "well he was still a key player for a very long time during a very successful stint for the club regardless of what happens off the pitch". Again, I don't agree with it, but there's at least some reasoning there. But I cannot imagine why you would remove him from the legends list and then add him back after he's convicted in court. It's just completely nonsensical.

[@YevOnegin]

Their next plan is about respecting opposition. They're apparently adding a "rivals we respect" section for the likes of Zidane and such. Robinho is going to be the first name on the list, apparently.

[@guguy00]

So much for "Més que un club" Seriously. I get just celebrating Dani Alves' achievements on the club website but Zea is right. Just put in an asterisk on his bio and mention his fucking rape conviction or something. It's not that hard.

[@brendanrodgers9753]

Mes que un Rapist. UEFALONA Criminals strike again 😂😂 hala MADRID

[@brendanrodgers9753]

Shut up hala madrid

[@guguy00]

​@@brendanrodgers9753You are aware I'm against Barca and not Real in this one right?

[@brendanrodgers9753]

@guguy00 oh okay my bad 😁 apologies my friend 👍 fuck Barcelona and David luiz

[@thesalesman131]

As a Barca fan what Alves did was wrong. You cannot call someone a "legend" if they're a horrible person

[@nophone9311]

The only reason I can think why they would add him back on is because Barcelona signed a contract and is now legally required to have him on the website.

[@29Florian05]

I'm not even surprised that they readded him. This club makes so many strange things in the last years

[@brendanrodgers9753]

UEFALona loves protecting criminals lol, 😂😂😂 Nigeria

[@A15Iron]

7:58 😂 you said doo doo 💩

[@akunwanneprosper7016]

Doo Doo 😂 😂 😂

[@shalmeneseriii]

Just got my tickets to StupidityCon 2024! So excited to attend the panel on sensible transfers by Todd Bohely. Anyone else going?

[@LordWay]

"more than a club" this goes in the face of this imo

[@doraemon402]

He should be on the list because he is, in fact, one of the greatest players in the history of the club. That said, he is also a criminal and a pos but that does not, in any way, mean he is not one of the best players in Barça's history. He shouldn't have been taken off the list. I totally get why putting him back on would be angering.

[@simoto8526]

looking forward for the next fm video

[@pattamon9432]

are you trying to say the N-Word without actually saying the N-Word? That is...... pathetic on so many level@@brendanrodgers9753

[@PunnyPanther]

Fancy a run Zealand?

[@jirimatejka7394]

waiting for the Zealandism on the Real v Valencia game

[@akunwanneprosper7016]

Done

[@TheDjclockwise]

Im convinced spanish clubs don't know what optics are😂

[@shuraamano]

Convict FC

[@EnigmaSwiss]

I love you Zealand

[@robertkisakye675]

His conviction does not charge the fact that he played football and that he was good at it. His being a legend is based on football reasons, not personal character. He is a legend, that does not make him free.. he is in prison. With your analogy, it means a person that goes to prison should just stop breathing. Let's not pretend that life didn't happen before his conviction.

[@LuCii-chan]

Barca don’t have any kind of saving grace anymore. Really sad.

[@alehlete830]

he is stil la legend though for barca there is that nba player known as greaetst and he absued his wife

[@dusty2399]

Your commentary style gives me vibes of moist critical

[@Legend-zo9bc]

Well this is Barca, is anyone that surprised?

[@andrewleah1983]

Imagine actually being convicted of rape and still being allowed to play football whereas someone only charged with it has to move countries.

[@queenzoroark]

Robinho be like:

[@thesalesman131]

As a Barca fan he should not be regarded as a legend. Hes a horrible person and anyone defending him is a horrible person

[@PasOdMater]

Are we now pro deleting history?

[@Michelle_Wellbeck]

How do you qualify for being Barcelona legend?

[@ellcaa4220]

Mes que un club 🙃

[@t.c.4321]

This is Zealands 143rd video in two weeks on this channel

[@abhuyllongfellow4233]

Let me play devil's advocate here. Should a man be "erased from history" because of an evil deed? I mean... The man IS a Barcelona Legend. On the pitch. Wasn't he, until recently, the literal most "trophied" player of all time? Not trying to defend him or his conduct off the pitch whatsoever, but should a person's history be erased due to him commiting a crime unrelated to the reason why he's considered a Legend? As far as I know, he's not considered a legend for his morals, but his footbal. As an exercize: Suppose Cruyff kicked babies for sport, should he not be considered a legendary player? Pelé literally abandoned his own child. Should his plays be forgotten? Messi endorses an autoritarian regime that murders gay people (indirectly, but still does lend his image to it), isn't he the greatest of the millenium? Isn't Michel Platini one of the LEGENDS of midfield, despite all the corruption behind the scenes after retiring from the sport? Hell, the examples are nearly infinite. Criticize, condemn, chastise all you want... be my guest. But choosing to forget history is madness.

[@TheSoulDivided]

I see what you're saying, but I think there's a big difference between recognizing a player's accomplishments and celebrating a guy who is currently in prison for rape charges as one of the paragons of your team's history

[@mapas720]

Well you can look at what WWE has done over the last 20 years. They had an iconic wrestler like Chris Benoit who committed horrible crimes and was almost completely erased from history. They never talk about him, nor his accolades, even though he had quite a few. And it seems like they are following the same route with Vince McMahon who was president of the company and one of their faces for almost 40 years, and he hasn't even been declared guilty yet, but has a pending lawsuit and so many accusations with some awful stories to back them up. So no, you don't *have* to erase these people from history since what they have done is outside of their professional lives, in which they were clearly very good, but you can choose not to shine a spotlight on people who have actively damaged others through their actions.

[@andrewleah1983]

No but yes. No in the same why we don’t delete Hitler from the history books but yes in the same way he should lose his legendary status. He just happens to be a good right-back/wing-back to play for Barca but let’s leave it at that.

[@Ikatxu]

Barça removing Dani Alves from a section in their webpage, that nobody knew was there before this hit the news, will not erase Dani Alves from history. Barça are however erasing Alves' conviction from the version of history they are presenting on their site by omitting any mention of it in their profile that mainly praises Alves. Literally seems like choosing to forget history, since it had to be a concious decision to put him back up there. Very bad PR for the team at the very least

[@jamesbaurus5928]

​@@andrewleah1983Hitler being remembered in history books is in no way equivalent to a webpage a football team voluntarily puts out about its former players. His history isn't gone because he's not being spotlighted as a great of the club

[@canaldoloading]

Just a reminder that Neymar helped Daniel Alves by paying his bail...

[@sirTAFFvanBAS]

Absolute scumm human to rape, still a footballing legend. I have never understood why theese two are being put together all the time theese days as if athleetes are not young people who have alot of money and attention thrown at them before they develop a personality. Expecting people not to rape is a pretty reasonable expectation. Being a great human has nothing to do with football tho. I do not expect that from the athleetes i like but it is a big bonus. The man is still a legend in football his actions outside the football field reduce him as a human not as a footballer.

[@erikplotz183]

Apparently its really hard for some people to understand, that you can be very good and successful at something, while also doing very bad things outside of the thing, youre successful at. Doesnt mean, that one should be used to re evaluate the other. If he has committed the crime, than its only fair, that he gets punished. But not by people digging in his past and trying to erase everything he has achieved in his history. People are not just black or white. And we should be able to look at the good, as well the bad.

[@daviebananas1735]

“The good and the bad” lol. My dude, the “bad” is rape.

[@Msyfr]

Marsa??

[@iulian-mariustordea8359]

That is one thing that can go into young ppl minds saying that whatever you do, do one thing good, and it all goes away. Daniel Alves's name should not be mentioned anymore by ppl who always say oh we support fairplay, save the children, barcelona played unicef osr save the children whatever charity on their shirt. And I am a Barca fan since Ronaldinho, this has nothing to do with sportsmanship, nothing to do with humanity. Hate it.

[@brendanrodgers9753]

Hala madrid

[@loduca16]

Literally nobody has said anything remotely like that.

[@regulark1071]

Its not pronounced “marsa” hard c sound

[@jamesbaurus5928]

Is this really the topic to be worried about pronunciation? Come on mate

[@Zealandism]

@@jamesbaurus5928 honestly I appreciated it, I didn't know

[@tdsm99]

Hatred of women is at an all time high in the 21st century. Football twitter will go right back to adoring and praising him when he gets out, just like what happened with greenwood.

[@brendanrodgers9753]

Nigeria

[@Reaper_ginger]

Exactly. You’ll have the people backing him now and yeah when he’s out in 5 years people will completely forget about his crime. The way people talk about Greenwood deserving another chance pisses me off. Football twitter and any post on IG about greenwood has so many people saying he’s innocent.

[@loduca16]

The pearl clutching here is nausea inducing. Being on a list of good footballers has literally nothing to do with a player’s post playing career.

[@jamesbaurus5928]

The f are you on about? Pearl clutching? He's a convicted rapists. Literally convicted, in a country where thats hard to be convicted of rape. Some things are more important than football

[@Ren_1090]

I mean technically this wasn’t his “post playing career” this incident happened when he still was an active player in Liga MX But the main point, I feel, is that players on that legends wall are being put out there as role models. And a convicted rapist should not be put in a position to be a role model for an aspiring soccer player

[@SamButler22]

They currently have a wing back who killed a woman

[@brendanrodgers9753]

Messi killed a woman? 😱😱😱I thought that dwarf was gayyyy haha 🤣🤣🤣hala MADRID

[@alinnegru2401]

dude he played for the club , now if he is a idiot in his personal life that dosent change the fact that he was a good player and helped barca win trophies

[@daviebananas1735]

Let’s just not celebrate rapists. No matter how good they were at football.

[@TheFergo911]

The fuck cares if he is on the list of legends on the Barcelona website. I mean I didn't even know a football club has such a page until I heard it on this video. I mean most football fans wouldn't even know. I can appreciate Dani Alves as a football player and how great of a player he was while at the same time understanding he did something horrendous. These two things exists and people who don't want any one of these things to be recognised are in need of help in figuring out how to be an adult.

[@brendanrodgers9753]

Dani Alves is terrible footballeger 😂😢

[@brendanrodgers9753]

Nigeria

[@zeo4481]

Was Platini a terrible player by being an as$ and scum outside his playing career? No?! Then nether is Dani Alves. Don't respect him. Don't condone anything he did. Doesn't change what he did as player.

[@Tonynotsoprano]

free Dani!! no proof! Visca barca!

[@tahahadada1936]

Celebrities get accused of rape all the time am no Barca fan just saying if you have money you are a target

[@brendanrodgers9753]

Nigeria + Dani LaLvez sucks😂

[@MrAdventure31]

also changed his story 4x times and had copious amount of evidence against him, but sure no rich person has ever raped ever

[@brendanrodgers9753]

​@@MrAdventure31facts my brother from another father, plus Hala Madrid 😂❤

[@VillaFanDan92]

He wasn't "accused". He was convicted.

[@Phill.__.]

Bro wasn’t accused, he lost in court and is sitting in prison for a crime he committed. Is that really so hard to understand?

[@0987654321porere]

Ronaldinho´s arrest is way more weird and funny than just being arrested bc of a fake passport 1st - he was travelling to paraguay and he didn´t need a passport to enter, His id would be enough ( allmost all south american borders are open to transit just with your national I.d.) 2nd - He was encarcerarted in paraguay and they had an football championship with the other prisioners and seemed like having fun while being there, bc he is world famous and loved everyone was friendly with him. you should make a video about him and what he has done in his retirement, he is one of the most random guys in the world, also one of my fav players of all time

[@Jean0987654321]

Mes que un club, my ass

[@demonicsquid7217]

"...and who can forget his terrifying raids on women's underwear..."