HE'S GONNA BE SO DISAPPOINTED

[@OmegaChase1002]

To everyone about to comment about Super Paper Mario, this video is more of a jab towards Sticker Star and the games after it. Not Super. i like super paper mario, but i think it should have been an in-between game that would later transition to a true paper mario 3. kinda like how kingdom hearts chain of memories was the 2nd kingdom hearts game, but it actually transitions into the REAL kingdom hearts 2.

[@Jay_Jay_Guy]

Jesus man, I have no idea how Sticker was SO BAD it tricked everyone into thinking Super was good. Super was the death of the (hopefully reborn) Paper Mario series

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@Jay_Jay_Guy Excuse you? I liked Super since way before Sticker Star was even a thing.

[@Jay_Jay_Guy]

@@OmegaChase1002 That's fine and good, but Super definitely got the "Zelda" treatment of a wave of disapproval from fans at launch, followed by quieter, but often larger, wave of approval after the launch of its successor. The difference is that unlike many Zelda games, Super's disapproval was very warranted IMO (along with all the other sequels) For the record, I think Super is a terrible sequel, but had potential to be a good spinoff. Unfortunately it doesn't move past "potential" for me personally.

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@Jay_Jay_Guy I was not one of those people who disapproved of it at launch.

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

@@Jay_Jay_Guy Sticker Star wasn't a bad game, it was just different and made it unique which how Color Splash and Origami King became good games.

[@JCBro-yg8vd]

Super is the closest Luigi will *EVER* be to having his own Paper game.

[@kirbo4252]

It's sucks that it's not only the closest but you unlock him when you're 7/8 done with the main game

[@GunSpyEnthusiast]

we have plot for Paper Luigi: The Marvelous Compass already. we have the engine ported to a system that has been selling like hot cakes. It's only a matter of time before we get to see Paper Luigi cross dress firsthand. Prepare.

[@Metahunt638]

@@kirbo4252now imagine a paper Kirby game

[@Manavine]

Super's good with the right expectations. Thousand Year Door sets up different expectations.

[@OmegaChase1002]

this video is about sticker star, not super

[@mredbadger]

Glad I played Super first tbh. I could enjoy the story without missing TTYD’s better gameplay

[@SolEmeralds18]

Maybe he should just take a look at Super Paper Mario, just for the story...but otherwise let him live with the first two.

[@OmegaChase1002]

super was a good game, i love it a lot. but its not exactly a sequel, gameplay-wise.

[@SolEmeralds18]

@@OmegaChase1002 yeah, that's why I would recommend he play it without thinking it's a sequel. The fact that there was NEVER a full on proper sequel to the classic two is painful.

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@SolEmeralds18 its not paper mario 3, its paper mario 2.5

[@ajg_711]

@@OmegaChase1002 I see what you did there ;)

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@ajg_711 im not even making jokes, im being genuine. i accept it as a paper mario game, and i love super paper mario, but it feels like an in-between game that should have led up to a true paper mario 3. like what KH chain of memories was for KH1 and KH2.

[@xxsegaxx]

Paper Luigi when?:(

[@Twilit_Gamer]

All I'm saying is that we need visual adaptations of the stories he left in his diary in 64 and the ones he told us about in TTYD

[@GavGamePad]

Plot twist, he experienced Fire Emblem and Paper Mario on NSO, therefore he will never experience the whiplash of TTYD to SPM.

[@OmegaChase1002]

SPM was fine, it was sticker star where everything fell apart

[@danielmoncrief4997]

I actually want to see a Paper Luigi game. Paper Luigi The Marvelous Compass.

[@OmegaChase1002]

YES PLEASE

[@gregman642]

I have a feeling that would be DLC. But I could definitely see them calling a bundle of them Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door + Paper Luigi: The Marvelous Compass (or Paper Mario: TTYD + Paper Luigi: TMC)

[@SmashEdits_YT]

How isnt that the best idea for a DLC? Nintendo, listen to this guy!

[@TheDerpyDolphin]

It’s been 20 years and that Toad is still waiting for a proper sequel

[@OmegaChase1002]

that toad grew up to be us

[@EEVEE_fan16]

This is either Nintendo saying that there will be a paper luigi game or them showing us the middle finger

[@suroguner]

if they are, joke's on them with how sales have been going. I almost suspect this game will outsell Origami King.

[@hopecat7466]

Super Paper Mario is alright.

[@MarioSonic46]

Considering that this line of dialogue is 20 years old, I'm pretty sure its just flavor text.

[@HuangLongGaming]

​@@surogunerthe game has indeed outsold origami king, with OK selling 109k copies and TTYD selling 113k copies in their first weeks

[@suroguner]

@@HuangLongGaming WOO HOO!

[@spiritrosewolf6377]

Oh the irony!

[@Glitchyy07]

If the next game in the series is also different like the last few games have been then this line is going to age poorly again

[@Alurith]

I was that guy on Miiverse asking for Paper Luigi, every day, during the year of luigi.

[@finalsurvivor1]

Super's great. Origami King is at least okay. We don't talk about the other two.

[@D4Nesquickster]

Color Splash Is enjoyable. Leave Sticker Star to Rot tbh, at least PMCS and PMTOK did their story better than Sticker Star

[@jeremyknight9980]

Color Splash was okay imo, it was the game that made me think most of Modern Paper Mario wasn't that bad.

[@AmalGum001]

Color Splash really isn’t that bad. It’s no Thousand Year Door, but it’s fine for what it is.

[@OmegaChase1002]

i like super paper mario, but i think it should have been an in-between game that would later transition to a true paper mario 3. kinda like how kingdom hearts chain of memories was the 2nd kingdom hearts game, but it actually transitions into the REAL kingdom hearts 2.

[@D4Nesquickster]

@@jeremyknight9980 and at least Huey was an upgrade for Mario’s Main Party member in PMCS.

[@astriverofstrengthandknowledge]

Thanks to the remake of TTYD, I have hope again for an actual Paper Mario 3. I think what boggled me the most in retrospect was how a lot of people dunked on Super way before Sticker Star even came out. I liked the game for its story especially, but felt it served perfectly as a transitional game before the next title (and Lord knows that shouldn’t have been Sticker Star).

[@BlueJourney2719]

I can't wait till he plays Sticker Star

[@chillandserve]

This toad is the entire TTYD fan base

[@specialeditiontactician6012]

I actually like Super Paper Mario, it's not bad just different. The bad ones start coming after that.

[@OmegaChase1002]

i like super paper mario, but i think it should have been an in-between game that would later transition to a true paper mario 3. kinda like how kingdom hearts chain of memories was the 2nd kingdom hearts game, but it actually transitions into the REAL kingdom hearts 2.

[@SagittariusAyy]

Super was GOATed. But as for a proper sequel to this game or a Paper Luigi game…Maybe if this remake/Updated Rerelease sells well enough, little Toad.

[@OmegaChase1002]

see pinned comment

[@SagittariusAyy]

@@OmegaChase1002 I know, I saw it, and I agree

[@svxd7369]

When this remake got announced, I was hoping that we would get to play a side story featuring Luigi and it would be called Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compas, based on Luigi's adventures during the events of Paper Mario TTYD.

[@Keeby219]

there is a paper luigi fan game being worked on if thats an consolation

[@OmegaChase1002]

WHERE?

[@Keeby219]

@@OmegaChase1002 saw a Twitter account for it called Paper Luigi: The Marvelous Compass The games still unfinished but I'm hoping gets worked on and we get a demo for it

[@Boedinator]

At least they’re aware, hopefully this means they’ll look into more Paper Mario games like this and the fact they said Paper Luigi hopefully we’ll get something if all goes well with the sales for the remake

[@Twilit_Gamer]

IIRC, this line was actually in the original on GameCube, but it's been slightly updated for this version so it wouldn't be a dated reference. With that in mind, Nintendo probably didn't put too much thought into his quote

[@Boedinator]

@@Twilit_Gamerhuh, sorta remember him saying that in the original but not really, I almost never talked to him beyond the fire emblem reference. I think I remember him mentioning one other game. Thanks for letting me know.

[@Termina2018]

Imagine if Paper Luigi was released as a sidemode with this remake 🤩

[@Dafiremeteor]

Hot take: I honestly feel like origami king kinda helped ttyds case for a remake since TOK had an investing story and kinda fun combat, sure its a bit different but it still resembels a bit of the original paper mario and I kinda have fun destroying the enemies, It kinda felt like an different version of ttyd in some way

[@sacripan4425]

In Sticker Star Luigi isn't even important, he just leave the screen like he doesn't want to be trapped in the game

[@OmegaChase1002]

as of the time im typing this comment im about 11+ hours into Mario & Luigi Paper Jam and I haven't even SEEN Paper Luigi anywhere...

[@sacripan4425]

@@OmegaChase1002Can I tell you if he appear or no?

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@sacripan4425 lemme get back to you on that...

[@TheFawfulExpressMustardO-cx6mw]

He's gonna have an aneurysm trying to comprehend the storyline...

[@BadringerGronger]

Toad throw the Wiimote at his tv, when he realizes that Super Paper wasn’t an RPG, or maybe Toad died before he see the series being butchered.

[@OmegaChase1002]

Super was still an RPG. An action RPG. STICKER STAR is where the series fell apart.

[@beta_unknow3050]

What confused me is in one of his dialogue, he mention Paper Mario 2. Tho like Paper Luigi, this game doesn't exist.

[@vittosphonecollection57289]

Does this imply that Paper Mario games exist in his universe and are based on the actual adventures like in Sonic?

[@OmegaChase1002]

i would assume so

[@vittosphonecollection57289]

@@OmegaChase1002 Interesting. I mean, Mario does thank you for playing his games at the end of their credits and also he screams the titles when turning them on, which means "he knows he's recording lines for a videogame" (with a bit of fantasy, or maybe 8!)

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@vittosphonecollection57289 Maybe those Lakitus from Mario 64 documented more than just 64. Then the games are based on the footage. Though the kid is playing TTYD before Mario's own TTYD adventure is finished.

[@vittosphonecollection57289]

@@OmegaChase1002 That is a cool theory! And maybe the Toad kid thing is just a joke then and it's not canon...

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@vittosphonecollection57289 It could be semi-canon. Nintendo rarely thinks about story details, sadly. that's kinda how we got to Sticker Star.

[@Ray_Cathode]

I actually think they've been getting better with TOK, I see it as a huge step in the right direction for Paper Mario along with the TTYD remake. *BUT*, they're not exactly the same games. If they were separate I think they would (kind of) work.

[@OmegaChase1002]

they should just go back to making games like 64 and ttyd

[@Ray_Cathode]

@@OmegaChase1002 I think they're gonna. The sales for TYYD were really good at launch - like, _really_ good. I would be shocked if they didn't make a Paper Mario 7 that's just like TTYD and 64.

[@Ray_Cathode]

And I hope they do I really hope they do I love TTYD Nintendo please I'm begging on my knees

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@Ray_Cathode nintendo just now finding out that listening to fans results in more sales

[@frithprey]

If he played this game, do you think he met himself? Do you think, a infinite loop of him meeting himself, having met himself?

[@OmegaChase1002]

thats assuming our version of ttyd is the exact same as the one he's playing.

[@Bobb11881]

Super Paper Mario is kind of both.

[@OmegaChase1002]

i like super paper mario, but i think it should have been an in-between game that would later transition to a true paper mario 3. kinda like how kingdom hearts chain of memories was the 2nd kingdom hearts game, but it actually transitions into the REAL kingdom hearts 2.

[@dry4smash946]

@@OmegaChase1002heres the thing, super paper mario WAS actually a gamecube game but they changed it to a wii title (possibly because of gamecube’s failure maybe?) which actually makes so much sense

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@dry4smash946 that still doesnt explain the gameplay change. if you ask me, too many early wii games forced the wiimote gimmick on the player.

[@dry4smash946]

@@OmegaChase1002 maybe they decided to go with a different genre because they already had a rpg paper mario on the console they are releasing on but then they changed to the wii due to some reasons?

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@dry4smash946 The occasional game that's different is fine, but when we go 20 years without a true Paper Mario game it becomes a problem.

[@jvts8916]

If you talk to him later, he's somehow managed to play Paper Luigi

[@sidneyhuckabee3598]

Sly confirmation of paper Luigi

[@koisandz]

am I the only person who actually liked sticker star as a kid 😭

[@koisandz]

note that it’s the first paper Mario game I ever played , I wasn’t around when the original gameplay style was implemented, so I didn’t play paper Mario, ttyd, or super paper Mario. Hearing about the old gameplay style made me like it less, and now I wanna play the ttyd remake rlly bad because it seems so much more fun

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@koisandz no rudeness intended, but it being your first one was probably the sole reason you liked it.

[@koisandz]

@@OmegaChase1002 yes !! thats What i believe too , as i said looking at it now its not that good and i wish i fan play the old ones they look so much more fun

[@WeegeeAnimations]

I used to like sticker star, it was my first Paper Mario game as well 😂

[@Termina2018]

I enjoyed Sticker Star as a guilty pleasure. Color Splash was somehow worse gameplay-wise (everything else was a big improvement in terms of story, levels, music, etc...) Origami King was the best one since Super in 2007, lot of fun memories with this one.

[@jiyucy]

TTYD did not in fact ever get a sequel

[@Personalaccusage]

Notice how he isn’t excited for super paper Mario, as it’s to show super paper Mario is a bad game

[@OmegaChase1002]

no, sticker star is

[@Personalaccusage]

@@OmegaChase1002 yeah ik it’s an inside joke, just search “super paper Mario” on GIFs

[@Personalaccusage]

@@OmegaChase1002 plus for the record I fucking love SPM

[@SleepyOtter8806]

Not gotta lie i think the little toad almost got his paper luigi game, because luigi is playable in super paper mario. However super paper mario isn't a RPG so little toad has to switch up his gameplay style because of this Game is still awesome according to my childhood so i guess hes gotta like it, or not! Who knows!

[@elizabethhernandez1456]

Sorry kid, there won't be....

[@tommyleecrash8850]

Why everyone dislikes super paper mario? :(

[@OmegaChase1002]

i dont. did you not see the pinned comment?

[@AlexTheSuperNintendoGamer]

Very cool video, keep up the good work, my friend.

[@NunnyNugget]

PAPER MARIO & LUIGI Ik they did Mario & Luigi paper jam but this ain’t that this is PAPER MARIO & LUIGI

[@ApolloJustice-rs5ry]

Oh come on, i loved super :p

[@OmegaChase1002]

so do i. super is a valid game. here's the thing though. it's not paper mario 3. its paper mario 2.5. it feels like an in-between game that should have led up to a true paper mario 3. like what KH chain of memories was for KH1 and KH2. also the disappointment in this video was referring to sticker star, not super.

[@ApolloJustice-rs5ry]

@@OmegaChase1002 aw, I also liked Sticker Star :p I mean it had like... A lot of issues, but it was ok. I guess SPM had sort of different gameplay and such, but as a kid I never thought it was too different for some reason. Tbh I would love a paper Luigi game, that would be sick

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@ApolloJustice-rs5ry the only excuse i could ever possibly give sticker star is its a handheld. but then big HD console games started using IT'S style instead of TTYD and 64's. now sticker star cant be pardoned.

[@ApolloJustice-rs5ry]

@@OmegaChase1002 eh, good point I guess. At least Color Splash was ok and TOK was ok. Hopefully paper Mario will go in a different direction

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@ApolloJustice-rs5ry i havent played them so i cant say theyre good or bad. but as a paper mario game, they do NOT look like something id want. they look like sticker star, something i hate. i just want more games like 64 and ttyd. its been long enough. even sonic knows when to return to an older style people liked...

[@Octav2000]

It’s so weird that there are only two Paper Mario games

[@OmegaChase1002]

*3. super was fine.

[@gearscore349]

​@@OmegaChase1002*4

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@gearscore349 whats the 4th

[@gearscore349]

@@OmegaChase1002 Seeing your replies in other comments, I might as well just not bother arguing it. (It was TOK)

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@gearscore349 its ok if you like that game but to me, thats more of a side game than a true pm3

[@maddestmike5791]

Everything between Super Paper Mario and TTYD Remake is an embarrassment. -_-

[@Termina2018]

*The Origami King wants to know your location.*

[@gearscore349]

Origami King? Sure, the battle system's kinda meh, but everything else is great.

[@fawazdjabakatie1109]

How do we tell him😢😢😢😭😭😭

[@Megasergio92]

How do we tell him?

[@supleh5937]

Just ket him skip sticker star

[@THEARCTROOPER123]

Luigis o. His own adventure dering this game weres his explaining what hes doing dering the events TYD

[@patrickquinones2533]

We are all disappointed

[@tessmcgrath1443]

Unpopular opinion: sticker star, color splash, and origami king were okay.

[@OmegaChase1002]

Even if we made the argument that they were fine games on their own, the fact would remain that they are a huge departure from what made Paper Mario so beloved in the first place. That's going to cause division in the fandom no matter how ya slice it. Change is not a bad thing, but if they're gonna make the gameplay style so drastically different, it'd make more sense to just make it an entire new series instead of borrowing the name of something that it's clearly not even trying to be. Plus when the new style keeps getting new games and the old style doesn't, that's when we have a "Sonic the Hedgehog" type of situation on our hands. Like Paper Mario, the Sonic series has also refused to go back to a gameplay style everyone liked, and instead kept trying to appease game journalists and casuals with experimental styles that nobody asked for. Isn't Mario supposed to be "better" than Sonic? Not worse, or at least on the same level? If we got a more traditional Paper Mario game in between each game of the "Sticker Star trilogy", then the Sticker Star trilogy would be hated way less. Because in that scenario, the Sticker Star trilogy stuff would be supplementing the traditional style instead of just outright replacing it. And that's a fact.

[@tessmcgrath1443]

@@OmegaChase1002 Oh, I see your point, I wish they’d stick to the franchise’s tradition.

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@tessmcgrath1443 Of course I don't need every game to be the same. I actually LOVE Super Paper Mario. But I just don't wanna see a gameplay style we all collectively love just be abandoned either.

[@tessmcgrath1443]

@@OmegaChase1002 I see.

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@tessmcgrath1443 In fact, let's go further and use Devil May Cry as another example. That DMC reboot comes out after DMC4? Everyone hates it. People wanted a real 5. Then an actual DMC5 comes out. Now people enjoy the reboot, as well as enjoying 5, since the reboot is now supplementing the main series instead of replacing it. (Or, at least *I* enjoy the reboot now.)

[@skeletonhearts1837]

You've got a long way to go little buddy.

[@BigBoy257]

I mean, that kinda did happen?

[@OmegaChase1002]

Not really. i like super paper mario, but i think it should have been an in-between game that would later transition to a true paper mario 3. kinda like how kingdom hearts chain of memories was the 2nd kingdom hearts game, but it actually transitions into the REAL kingdom hearts 2. but no, instead we got the sticker star trilogy...

[@NikosMario]

Hey hey color splash and origami king were awesome haven't played sticker star

[@OmegaChase1002]

i hated sticker star. i passed on CS and OK because they looked like more sticker star and didnt have any actual characters.

[@NikosMario]

​​@@OmegaChase1002They did have characters they may have been all toads but they were still memorable just because they look like normal toads that doesn't mean they weren't characters.Also origami king is totally different from sticker star in almost every way so i don't think its fair to call the modern games as the ,"sticker star trilogy" because that's just not true

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@NikosMario a bob-omb and a wiggler barely a character

[@NikosMario]

​​​@@OmegaChase1002bobby in origami king was a character he had a story and an emotional sacrifice that struck with a lot of people I'm not saying you have to be one of them but I'm just saying that your oversimplifying his character by judging him by just his design and not his personality and his use in the story

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@NikosMario compare him to bombette or admiral bobbery.

[@havocadvent2]

Music’s great… what place is this?

[@OmegaChase1002]

Petalburg

[@havocadvent2]

Thank you…..

[@ElSersh01]

Sticker Star is a pretty cool game, not a paper Mario game tho.

[@OmegaChase1002]

I strongly disagree.

[@plushmakerfan8444]

Yah that’s what I thought to man

[@BobRod-mi8rq]

😯😯😯😯😯🦭🦭🦭🦭 That's me

[@Mijzelffan]

I have no idea why people who reply to this that SPM and Origami King were good actually play paper mario since they clearly don't play it for the gameplay

[@enderallygolem]

Alternatively they like their gameplay for what it is rather than just saying it isn't TTYD

[@Sickmmaner]

No there was no Paper Mario game after TTYD. No there was no Paper Mario game after TTYD. No there was no Paper Mario game after TTYD.

[@Samiho]

super was good

[@xxsegaxx]

Súper might have been Super Mario Bros on steroids but the rest of it was good

[@randomjar6934]

There was super, Color splash, and Origami king. They were all great.

[@linus6718]

Color Splash and Origami King were good bro

[@Sickmmaner]

@@linus6718 Damn I sent this two weeks ago? Now's probably a good time to mention that the only PM game I've ever played was Paper Mario 64. I haven't touched any of the other ones, and have been parroting what everyone else has been saying!