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Harstem

Harstem

Күн бұрын

In this video, Harstem showcases a unique and unexpected build order in a Starcraft II match. Despite initially appearing to follow a standard strategy, Harstem makes a series of unconventional choices that throw off his opponent and ultimately lead to victory. The video title poses the question of whether these tactics are overpowered or if the opponent simply played poorly, leaving it up to the viewer to decide. Whether you're a Starcraft II player looking for new ideas or just a fan of exciting matches, this video is sure to provide entertainment and maybe even a few tips for your own gameplay.
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@Tawnos_
@Tawnos_ Жыл бұрын
If you really want to confuse your opponent, just gg and leave the match the moment you're scouted. They may have scouted you, but they'll never see the gg coming.
@Lmaokekw975
@Lmaokekw975 Жыл бұрын
GGing to GM when ?
@phantomsea8987
@phantomsea8987 Жыл бұрын
This is a pro gamer move, I also didn't see this coming. GG mate
@TheGahta
@TheGahta Жыл бұрын
To know yourself is to know the enemy, to confuse yourself is winning the battle before you even knew there was one - Tsun Who
@PantoniStrikesBack
@PantoniStrikesBack Жыл бұрын
This comment is some serious shit. Loved it!
@huyxiun2085
@huyxiun2085 Жыл бұрын
The enemy is the part of you which sucks. - Sun Tzu ROFL, EZ - Harstem, playing off race against Sun Tzu, probably
@kw8295
@kw8295 Жыл бұрын
Sun Who? Hu or Hoo? 🤔
@TheGahta
@TheGahta Жыл бұрын
@@kw8295 yes
@samloan1829
@samloan1829 Жыл бұрын
I think you could reasonably replace winning with losing
@blueqion9488
@blueqion9488 Жыл бұрын
Do a Beating Grandmasters with stupid stuff where you can only play Mech as a Terran against Protoss to fulfill this mans dream
@TiredOwl464
@TiredOwl464 Жыл бұрын
Harstem would rather drink acid rather than play mech
@blueqion9488
@blueqion9488 Жыл бұрын
Yeah back when I played starcraft I also "purposefully" used bad build orders to "cunfuse" my enemy it's not like I just didn't look up build orders, no it was a strategie to confuse my enemy nice to see another mastermind strategist like me beeing featured on this channle.
@trumpwonBIGLY
@trumpwonBIGLY Жыл бұрын
I’m sure the players in silver are thankful that you arent there anymore confusing them
@Kilesfactor
@Kilesfactor Жыл бұрын
@@trumpwonBIGLY So glad I'm bronze, I don't want to get confusen
@Jordan-Ramses
@Jordan-Ramses Жыл бұрын
I use bad build orders. Every unit is imba. That checks out. Logic 10/10.
@TheSuperappelflap
@TheSuperappelflap Жыл бұрын
i mean you can laugh but i do this in csgo and solo queued to global elite by just doing whatever i thought my opponents would least expect. pro players in sc2 sometimes just build a roach warren or whatever so that when their opponent scouts they will defend against that and then suddenly 10 mutas kill all the workers in their main base. playing optimal but predictable is not optimal.
@bencheevers6693
@bencheevers6693 Жыл бұрын
Hamster's knowledge is always refreshing and I love reading those tips in the corners, you could put anything there and I'd read the whole thing, anyways the other issue with supply dropping, especially at your ramp is you can lose 16 supply in one pop and if that happens during defense you lose because you can't reinforce.
@nekrosis4431
@nekrosis4431 Жыл бұрын
A Canadian?
@bencheevers6693
@bencheevers6693 Жыл бұрын
@@nekrosis4431 I am why?
@nekrosis4431
@nekrosis4431 Жыл бұрын
@@bencheevers6693 no, not you. Hamster also put a card in the top right saying "A Canadian?" after Harstem said "who would apologize after the waiter spilled something on him". I found it quite funny
@bencheevers6693
@bencheevers6693 Жыл бұрын
@@nekrosis4431 Oh right, I remember now, also can confirm.
@RomualdBrunet
@RomualdBrunet Жыл бұрын
Purerly numerical email adresses are actually extremelly common in China (well above half of the emails I'd say) I'm surprised you've never seen one
@suta7
@suta7 Жыл бұрын
18:30 those liberation zones are too perfectly placed for a human. This absolutely is an ai
@joshgoulash4889
@joshgoulash4889 Жыл бұрын
IceLin was actually decent after the first couple minutes. I think some Vikings for the Carriers would probably help. Also Hi-Sec, Neosteel, and a bunch of turrets.
@momom6197
@momom6197 Жыл бұрын
Hamster including the repair cost in the skirmish's costs is hella impressive!
@nnm711
@nnm711 Жыл бұрын
9:15 - 9:30 *Artosis has disliked that.*
@minimalgrammar1276
@minimalgrammar1276 Жыл бұрын
PepeLaugh
@balazsfenyes3880
@balazsfenyes3880 Жыл бұрын
But Artosis dislikes everything that's protoss.
@Sara_Feingold
@Sara_Feingold Жыл бұрын
Love hearing Harstem roast protoss players while roasting mech players XD
@OMIMreacts
@OMIMreacts Жыл бұрын
no no no, if you want to purposefully confuse your opponent, you play Bongcloud.
@randallfletcher497
@randallfletcher497 Жыл бұрын
ahhh a fellow person of culture, i see :)
@SharienGaming
@SharienGaming Жыл бұрын
and if you want to confuse everyone, you play double bongcloud
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs Жыл бұрын
A true man of culture!
@txopin
@txopin Жыл бұрын
I wonder if all this nonsense is some pro doing some challenge. Nowadays you cant take a step in the Ladder without facing Wild Pros killing us just for the likes. I can`t even imagine how the korean uThermal version must be.
@brimbrim5389
@brimbrim5389 Жыл бұрын
BGMWSS Idea: Do what this guy did, don't use a build order, just make some random stuff and hope it confuses the other guy.
@spairus4492
@spairus4492 Жыл бұрын
Wait, that's basically every other BGMWSS or Cheesiest man alive ever
@anderskjaer
@anderskjaer Жыл бұрын
@@spairus4492 Literally every episode he starts off with "I have a new build order..."
@ddenozor
@ddenozor Жыл бұрын
Or he can try to beat a Protoss with mech. That idea might be too stupid even for BGMWSS
@spairus4492
@spairus4492 Жыл бұрын
@@anderskjaerAnd he then proceeds to say that the build order is not an actual build order, but a general idea about bluffing with some weird building placement and scouting shenanigans
@danielglidewell
@danielglidewell Жыл бұрын
Lol ChatGPT wrote the description too.
@lelouchvibritannia7809
@lelouchvibritannia7809 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, about his email, it is possible the guy is Chinese. In China (This one🇨🇳) it is very common for people to have an email that consists of pure numbers. I’m not sure how it is for the other 🇹🇼, 🇰🇷 or any other Asian country so I only speak for 🇨🇳 when I say it doesn’t mean he’s an AI
@Jimmy-pp6fo
@Jimmy-pp6fo Жыл бұрын
Actually, Icelin is a video uploader in china, playing grandmaster terran
@narangood42
@narangood42 Жыл бұрын
I am a Terran player, just wanna tell this guy that Ghost will solve all those IMBA units.
@krisdabrowski5420
@krisdabrowski5420 Жыл бұрын
Slight counterpoint on the mule: Mule does get you 225 minerals faster, but a depot drop is a free 100 minerals, letting you stay in your main bases for minerals slightly longer. Granted, it's usually better to just get the 225 minerals faster, since that means you can make more stuff faster, and making more stuff faster is almost always better than outlasting the opponent.
@doltBmB
@doltBmB Жыл бұрын
not getting mule doesn't actually cost anything, it just slows income, the 225 minerals will still be there, you'll just harvest them later as you say, depot drop is actually saving you 100 minerals, 100 minerals you don't have to spend at all depot drop also is instant, it gets you out of a supply block right away, whereas depots have a build time
@klarthkoken1925
@klarthkoken1925 Жыл бұрын
Supply depots also cost the time of the SCV building them, who isn't mining in that period. Clearly, Mules need a buff.
@PinnysVids
@PinnysVids Жыл бұрын
That's actually interesting. So.. to put some numbers to it: - Supply drop directly saves 100 minerals - And through saved build time also saves 21¹ minerals of build time + ~5 minerals of total travel time) Giving you a total of ~126 minerals saved ¹Using 1 mineral per second, taken from this chart on liquipedia: liquipedia.net/starcraft2/File:StarCraft_II_Zerg_Harvesting_Chart.jpg
@xakannax
@xakannax Жыл бұрын
Fwiw you really wouldnt stay in your base long enough to matter in the slightest because 100 minerals would be covered in less than 4s by your 16 workers, so while it is technically true that "you are generating extra minerals not found on map" you arent really delaying anything but your tech/units/buildings your moveout time to new bases wont really change. You'd be literally just putting yourself behind 120/130 minerals in the early game that you were supposed to have within the next 90s of you making the call for no reason which can snowball during early fights when you are missing/have delayed units/tech (at least when you lead with doing it multiple times instead of mules). In this game it basically guaranteed he had to turtle which put him further behind than just that tiny bit of opportunity mining lost
@hiei49
@hiei49 Жыл бұрын
By that logic you should only make 14 workers per base becuase it saves you 100 minerals. Supply drop were viable when terran turtled on 3 bases with 4 orbitals and they werent able to mine 40% of the map, so they use supply drop when they were about to mine out and when they get cap they use the orbitals for scans/ they try to take a base if their push didnt get the killing blow. But that was an early wol strat.
@Андрей-ю2р6л
@Андрей-ю2р6л Жыл бұрын
A game with mech has never been wonnen... won?.. has never been winnered at hight level (c) Harstem
@ddenozor
@ddenozor Жыл бұрын
In Terran's defense, It's interesting to see how a single Thor can take 1/3 hp of a muta ball with single shot but 10 Thors can't clear those little interceptors for entire fight.
@FreckleMcMur
@FreckleMcMur Жыл бұрын
His thors where in single target mode, switch them to AA rockets and all the interceptors will disappear.
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs Жыл бұрын
It's a micro thing I suppose. As Interceptors fly circles around their targets, they are pretty much magic boxing on their own ^^
@ntm4
@ntm4 Жыл бұрын
He wasn't targeting the intercepters. His Thors were shift clicked on the carriers. (At least in the first fight, maybe he changed tactics after and I didn't notice.)
@jumi9342
@jumi9342 Жыл бұрын
The second symbol on the Imbalance Report Form looks like a happy man with a top hat
@ctb3335
@ctb3335 Жыл бұрын
"Mech isn't viable" Counterpoint: big, well, mechs and big tanks are cool and that obviously makes them super powerful /j
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs Жыл бұрын
Enemy can't fight if he is busy running away scared! Illusion of power!
@maximk9964
@maximk9964 Жыл бұрын
In Silver League, I only won TvP with mech (especially when they throw mass stalker against well fortified tanks), but that's good to know, maybe next time I'll try bio, when I get Protos opponent. But my favourite opponent was someone who having seen my mass Viking army, decided to go for colossi.
@madumlao
@madumlao Жыл бұрын
"mech players are basically protoss players in disguise" omg i cant breathe
@Sworn973
@Sworn973 Жыл бұрын
10:30, That is a imbalance complain right there, can't play mech against toss
@wanderhillen2435
@wanderhillen2435 Жыл бұрын
Hey man leave the poor AIs alone. For sure it was impolite of chatGPT to give you a bad build order but you can't blame all AIs just because one of them was mean to you. This AI just wants to get better at the game, same as the rest of us. Now of course, they still suck (also same as the rest of us) but that's no reason to disparage them for not being born a human. In fact it's quite good for an AI, most never make it to diamond league.
@anarchosnowflakist786
@anarchosnowflakist786 Жыл бұрын
wait really ? most ais never make it to diamond league ?
@wanderhillen2435
@wanderhillen2435 Жыл бұрын
​@@anarchosnowflakist786 Well figured that since even most platinum players can beat the most difficult AI that comes with SC2, it stands to reason that such an AI would never get enough MMR to actually get to diamond. 🤔
@anarchosnowflakist786
@anarchosnowflakist786 Жыл бұрын
@@wanderhillen2435 oh you mean those AIs, I thought you were talking about things like alphastar or the things on the "AI server"
@Kortochtjock
@Kortochtjock Жыл бұрын
Was this after a night out? That shirt is unusually nice for the Cowboy.
@teosandev6116
@teosandev6116 Жыл бұрын
Its the terran adjutant herself. She's finally assumed direct control.
@mishazerg
@mishazerg Жыл бұрын
I love that description is written by AI.
@domacleod
@domacleod Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how you'd calculate this but, if you use supply drop, doesn't that technically help delay base exhaustion, since you use less minerals to build supply depots, and mules don't get 250 minerals out of thin air, but out of the mine-able ore? I know it probably doesn't help in most matchups, but I've seen a few draws / all map mined matches that you casted, and I figure that a few supply drops instead of mules might have helped a bit.
@adamnevraumont4027
@adamnevraumont4027 Жыл бұрын
Except the edge you'd gain by 150 minerals many minutes earlier (per drop) should swing the win more than 150 minerals in the end game. The inefficiency in the early game has to be simply insane for that to not be true.
@montypython5521
@montypython5521 Жыл бұрын
I forget what the build is, i want to say it was a thor rush, where it is more efficient to supply drop so you don't get supply blocked and get the thor out on time than to drop a mule
@adamnevraumont4027
@adamnevraumont4027 Жыл бұрын
@@montypython5521 yes, there are extreme corner cases! Also, in the 1v8 cheater AI games, money later is worth money now.
@kingpet
@kingpet Жыл бұрын
your first mistake is calling the minerals "ore"...
@crashtiansClips
@crashtiansClips Жыл бұрын
@@kingpet Your first mistake is not knowing the definition of Ore. "a naturally occurring solid material from which a metal or valuable >>mineral
@eclipseeffigy
@eclipseeffigy Жыл бұрын
That mech player kamikaze criticism as protoss was hilarious 😂
@Dexortes
@Dexortes Жыл бұрын
20:23 I scared my wife and cats by laughing so loud)))
@spairus4492
@spairus4492 Жыл бұрын
That protoss literally did negative micro for half the fights in the game, that's why IceLin got a 20+ minute game out of this
@peceed
@peceed Жыл бұрын
And imagine, that this IIIODIS is just a single step of neural network training :P
@maksymokolot4648
@maksymokolot4648 Жыл бұрын
In all actuality, a subpar build with terrible execution allowed this guy to hold so long against a Korean GM
@Markfr0mCanada
@Markfr0mCanada Жыл бұрын
You could sell all the diesel fuel out of your military vehicles for vodka money right before invading, and the enemy will be very confused by a 40 mile long stopped convoy, but you also have a 40 mile long stopped convoy. One more "confusion analogy" for you Harstem!
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 Жыл бұрын
Harstem: Mech never performed at highest level? Gumiho won GSL in 2017 playing Mech, even against Protoss (although they didn't make the finals). Yes I realize the game has changed a lot since then. Yes it is so extremely rare that I don't really have a point and will now shut up.
@soju69jinro
@soju69jinro Жыл бұрын
Kevin, think about it a bit more. mule is 225 right? but, how long does a supply depot take? how many minerals is that? plus you have -1 scv mining + travel time. if you get +2 building armor, that's not a bad deal either. You save space, you dont lose scv while upgrading depot. Much more benefits.
@henningbreede6428
@henningbreede6428 Жыл бұрын
Someone that either plays on low level or doesn't even play the game thinks he figured out the game better than every pro player. It's like 30 minerals in mining time lost, like the fuck is that argument. "Saving space" is also not an actual concern, in fact walling/having depots for vision is a positive.
@courageousmelon5654
@courageousmelon5654 Жыл бұрын
2:40 it isn't that uncommon for Asian people to use numbers as their e-mail adress, simply because non English alphabet characters aren't supported for mail addresses.
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 Жыл бұрын
American military doctrine: the enemy can't predict us if we don't even know what we're doing. It baffled the nazis in WW2, because we were so chaotic.
@angamaitesangahyando685
@angamaitesangahyando685 Жыл бұрын
If real-world examples are allowed, then I'd suggest the drunken monk fighting style, Darth Jar Jar Binks, and Putin. - Adûnâi
@iangallacher6608
@iangallacher6608 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact - it was the alphastar employees typing gg when it played on the ladder, not the bot itself
@AlexMcMeeken
@AlexMcMeeken 9 ай бұрын
The judges should have judged the doctor drawing because he could be a quack!
@shanedog007
@shanedog007 Жыл бұрын
Captain that shirt is pimpin. . . I like it :D
@jfabiovieira
@jfabiovieira Жыл бұрын
When people don't say GG.. When people say GG.. "most of the bots says that..." :D
@wherethetatosat
@wherethetatosat Жыл бұрын
I need a full length video that is just Harstem's analogies.
@Ariautoace
@Ariautoace Жыл бұрын
Handsome Harstem is 25% of the screen. Got to love it.
@wolfclaw3812
@wolfclaw3812 Жыл бұрын
IceLin(real) is a Chinese grandmaster Terran + streamer. He isn't massively popular, but he does have a really aggressive playstyle.
@LostMekkaSoft
@LostMekkaSoft Жыл бұрын
if you drop 10 supply depot hats in a game that goes to a split map scenario where every base is mined out and resources lost is dead even, your bank will have 1k minerals more than your opponent. maybe he played for the ultra lategame? 😅
@lorenzogazzola328
@lorenzogazzola328 Жыл бұрын
Does interfirence Matrix istantly stops the interceptors if used on a carrier?
@henningbreede6428
@henningbreede6428 Жыл бұрын
They retreat back into the carrier
@mrpotato8985
@mrpotato8985 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mr Harstem. If mech is incapable of beating toss army no matter what, does it mean that mech is not balanced properly?
@sevenpolar3483
@sevenpolar3483 Жыл бұрын
generally Starcraft is isn't balanced so that every unit is viable in every matchup, it is balanced around every strategy having a counter strategy that beats it.
@mrpotato8985
@mrpotato8985 Жыл бұрын
@@sevenpolar3483 well, yeah, that's true. It just wierd that toss can play ground or air, zerg can go muta or roaches but terran alway should go bio
@sevenpolar3483
@sevenpolar3483 Жыл бұрын
Terran don't have a mechanic like creep or recall or shield batteries that make it easier for them to defend at home, they rely on keeping pressure on opponents, scanning for information and controlling the game. Mech is simply too slow to do that. Mech units are not bad though, Liberators, Thors and Helbats are all good units with uses, in fact Mech units trade better than bio units in almost every matchup, but without Marines, (Marauders) and Medivacs, you cannot punish an opponent putting their army out of position to attack you. So mech plays a supporting role, but if they didn't Terran would lose its unique playstyle, because they are suppose to be the Anvil to the bio Hammer.
@sevenpolar3483
@sevenpolar3483 Жыл бұрын
if you think Marine Medivacs beat 99% of all compositions, you should go on a KZbin series I know called "is is Imba or do I suck?"
@mrpotato8985
@mrpotato8985 Жыл бұрын
@@sevenpolar3483 but they are. Have you seen any pro terrans play? There are a lot of videos of guys getting gm with marines only.
@electricitybomb
@electricitybomb Жыл бұрын
Its not even the mech issue. Its diamond, but it definitely takes more to use mech than bio vs toss
@DavidFlrczk
@DavidFlrczk Жыл бұрын
A machine making more machines
@JJ-qo7th
@JJ-qo7th Жыл бұрын
"Each unit is imbalanced, just like this game." ...y'know. Y'knooooooow...they are. All of them. Everywhere, every unit, every race, all imbalanced--and somehow that actually leads to balance in its own weird, beautiful way. On top of that, it just makes everything more interesting.
@Llama_charmer
@Llama_charmer Жыл бұрын
If everyone is super, then nobody is
@noxszerofoxs2769
@noxszerofoxs2769 Жыл бұрын
Hoily shit his mic is finally LOUD!!~ YESSSSS Bless the gods! starcraft 2 patch in 2023 and Kevin fix's his low gain on his mic time to buy lotto tickets
@jwmmitch
@jwmmitch Жыл бұрын
Wait, didn't you just agree with imbalance if Protoss is essentially a hard counter to mech?
@OldSpaghettifactory89
@OldSpaghettifactory89 Жыл бұрын
Mech seems to be inbalanced if its literally unviable, as harstem states
@alistairbolden6340
@alistairbolden6340 11 ай бұрын
Its true the bio should be nerfed as its got a extreamly high win rate over protoss and the mech should be buffed a lot to make it viable. SC2 is not a very well balanced game at all.
@OldSpaghettifactory89
@OldSpaghettifactory89 11 ай бұрын
@@alistairbolden6340 what? No, that's an insanely bad idea. Heavily nerfing bio, the core of every terran army l, with no rhyme or reason would break just about all terran matchups. And any buff to mech to try and make it viable vs protoss would likely make it to vs zerg, where its already super strong. I mean, that was the goal of the cyclone rework. It failed, mostly BECAUSE making it viable against toss made it broken vs zerg, so it ended up in its mostly useless state. And factory units have plenty of places in terran armies depending on the toss composition. Also like, pure mech sucks as a playstyle let's not encourage it. This was meant as a bit of humör about something being weak being technically imba not actually saying this should be looked at. PvT is currently sitting at around 49% which is about as balanced as it gets, anyways.
@candidate3512
@candidate3512 Жыл бұрын
Confuse yourself, confuse your enemy- Evil Lee
@ryfors
@ryfors Жыл бұрын
Nice camera side switch Hamster
@StormflameMW
@StormflameMW Жыл бұрын
Harstem forgot Game of Thrones Season 8. A total surprise, everything unexpected, especially unexpected how bad it is.
@PavlosPapageorgiou
@PavlosPapageorgiou Жыл бұрын
Are you saying Protoss is imba vs mech?
@fangzheng2967
@fangzheng2967 Жыл бұрын
ICELIN used to play on the CN server. I think that's why his MMR is lower on the KR server.
@rayzhang3425
@rayzhang3425 Жыл бұрын
That’s a sick video description lol
@yuntaozhao5693
@yuntaozhao5693 Жыл бұрын
I'm 99.99% sure that iceLin is the chinese streamer "Ice爱司令". And he does play both terran and protoss :D
@tronzidestrudo7445
@tronzidestrudo7445 Жыл бұрын
Preffering Mules over supply drop is such a normal thing to do, but you got me thinking - didn't we forget to account for the supply depot you still have to build? (250 mule minerals -125 building depot vs. 125 saved for dropping a depot) I get there are different advantages for building a new depot, e.g. not loosing 16 supply whn enemy destroys it. But regarding net minerals it should be somewhat equal. No? Where is my mistake? Pls help.
@Name-ru1kt
@Name-ru1kt Жыл бұрын
Pros use supply drops themselves. Like maru for example incorporates it into his build order. Like one benefit you don’t need to wait construction time so if your build order is very tight the instant supply is better
@williamzimrin1011
@williamzimrin1011 Жыл бұрын
You are double counting the depot. Mules get 225 minerals, and then you spend 100 minerals on a depot, resulting in 125 minerals and a new depot. With supply drop, you do the drop and end up with a new depot-equivalent, but you miss out on the 125 extra minerals.
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 Жыл бұрын
​@@Name-ru1kt Maru will only use it under specific circumstances with a hyper-aggressive build. Supply drop if its not needed is always a terrible idea for anyone below mid GM.
@SamGray
@SamGray Жыл бұрын
My strategy against Protoss is to hide in a barrel, like the wily fish.
@jerubaal101
@jerubaal101 Жыл бұрын
This man was built different.
@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK
@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK Жыл бұрын
Fighting up ~700 MMR is insane no matter what honestly. Also, as a lover of Terran Mech, I agree, mech clearly needs buffs. But that won't stop be from building thors because they're cool mechs
@doltBmB
@doltBmB Жыл бұрын
thor has already been pendulum nerfed, used to be much stronger
@Higurashika
@Higurashika Жыл бұрын
Look at the tips at the start of the game. Toss was 5.1k, terran 4.8.
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 Жыл бұрын
@Michael Lochlann You have it completely backwards - Thors used to be useless, as soon as Broods came out it was instant gg. Getting HIP cannons added with a bonus to Massive then +1 range in LotV was huge. DPS was massively buffed across the board as their firing rate was buffed. Its not Skytoss they have a problem with.
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 Жыл бұрын
Mech has just been buffed with the Cyclone. Not by much, but its the only Mech unit that can be buffed without breaking the game. Maybe Liberator or Viking by a tiny amount.
@DistrictTerra
@DistrictTerra Жыл бұрын
This was amazing because terran was kind of close to winning this as long as he would have pushed out better. Going Ravens for this word have been amazing to kill off the disruptors or carriers shutting them down.. How is this 4.5k on Korea just fucking turtleing with mech?
@disieh
@disieh Жыл бұрын
I might be wrong but as far as I know the way Korean language works is that it sounds utterly confusing if directly translated to English. I think the balance complain form is just a way too literal translation.
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that is a fair assessment. We would sound equally chaotic if we'd try to translate something like that to Korean ^^
@SrThanatos010
@SrThanatos010 Жыл бұрын
My analogies got so much better since I started watching Harstem.
@dlx7844
@dlx7844 Жыл бұрын
it's so funny that the complainee doesn't even suck that bad and almost made it work XD
@megadeth-1a885
@megadeth-1a885 Жыл бұрын
He moves like the campaign CPU on story difficulty
@SeanofAllTrades
@SeanofAllTrades Жыл бұрын
I pretty much just come here to listen to you shit on terran players. Thank you for making my day better.
@StormflameMW
@StormflameMW Жыл бұрын
Don't forget, he was a mech player. Someone plays mech to turtle in his base. Mech players are not allowed to move out until they max out and have at least 5 extra planetaries. And then wait another minute.
@Churpsy
@Churpsy Жыл бұрын
a canadian lmao, love the mini comments
@bkcirno
@bkcirno Жыл бұрын
It's not icelin himself,It's a kidding from his fans😂
@aloe7794
@aloe7794 Жыл бұрын
25:18 actually, he had too few libs in 4v4s, mass liberators absolutely shreds any other air army because of their splash damage stacking on top of one another the reason he build ravens was also bc anti armor missiles help libs absolutely shred the enemy air although the only thing why isn't this comp used in 1v1 at all is because it has the same weaknesses as mass corruptors - the opponent just builds two archons and wins the game
@Cheshire9k
@Cheshire9k Жыл бұрын
Doesnt mass Liberator beat mass Carrier because the small AOE destroys all the Interceptors?
@henningbreede6428
@henningbreede6428 Жыл бұрын
Not if the protoss takes proper fights.
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 Жыл бұрын
No because the AoE doesn't - this is not a team game where you can have most of the supply tied up in Libs.
@miza6
@miza6 Жыл бұрын
Question for all: does the supply count on the info bar display only the units on the field or units out + those in production?
@hooah
@hooah Жыл бұрын
Those in prod too
@roarshack5879
@roarshack5879 Жыл бұрын
For terran it only counts the one actually building, not the ones in que same for protoss robo/stargates. Zergs eggs spawning count to supply as well. Otherwise you could go over 200/200 supply with ease.
@katsuthebun
@katsuthebun Жыл бұрын
units in production also counts
@miza6
@miza6 Жыл бұрын
@@hooah ty
@miza6
@miza6 Жыл бұрын
@Michael Lochlann ty
@solothon893
@solothon893 Жыл бұрын
But harstem, if he supply drops he can stay on a lower base count for longer because he doesn't mine out his bases as fast. I mean obviously it's still bad lol but that's one reason I thought of for why he might do this especially being a mech player.
@Kevkoss
@Kevkoss Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about, but saying that "mech sucks" and that "no one ever won on higher level with it against Protoss" kinda sounds like Protoss is IMBA ;)
@Blutwind
@Blutwind Жыл бұрын
Tbf the Starbucks comparision didn't realy work as i would argue Starbucks doesn't sell coffee to begin with
@johnnovak6386
@johnnovak6386 Жыл бұрын
A game at high level has never been "winnered"
@Marc-gu4dh
@Marc-gu4dh Жыл бұрын
my wife also has an email that's made up entirely of numbers. Did I accidentally marry an AI?!
@_unknown_guy
@_unknown_guy Жыл бұрын
You won all games with ChatGPT strats...
@hiei49
@hiei49 Жыл бұрын
I didnt knew Harstem does Brood War IodiS
@ErickGuanfantasticfears
@ErickGuanfantasticfears Жыл бұрын
Fighting mass thors at a lower level is actually not so easy.
@andreashalbfeld7671
@andreashalbfeld7671 Жыл бұрын
You're a content MACHINE!
@andrebrodbeck384
@andrebrodbeck384 Жыл бұрын
My first thought about his sentences that made no real sense was, that his english isn't that good and he used google for translation.
@janekjanek8242
@janekjanek8242 Жыл бұрын
OK HOW ABOUT THIS BGWSS CHALLANGE! You are ONLY allowed to attack, when all of your supplydepots have a supplydrop on them! Make this happen Mr Harstem!!(:
@Joffrerap
@Joffrerap Жыл бұрын
is it imba or does mech sucks?
@mindsight9732
@mindsight9732 9 ай бұрын
Nah broken english which is kinda surprising for south korea. He didn't include negatives well. He meant to say, Protess can't (be) play(ed) (against). It's actually different then bad AI english. you see it a lot comparing german to english, theres a archaic sentice structure in english that other languages get, but is backwards.
@Moonunitz
@Moonunitz Жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm being exposed. Decimal email address, appreciator of tanks and hellbats. Wish I knew how to work a Thor into an opener.
@0xc0ffee_
@0xc0ffee_ Жыл бұрын
In korea having only numbers in nicknames or emails is pretty common. And the sentences are weird because his english is probably not too good :)
@sycariummoonshine7134
@sycariummoonshine7134 Жыл бұрын
But is thor helbat liberator imba???
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs Жыл бұрын
Only if UThermal plays it from Bronze to GM
@SquintyGears
@SquintyGears Жыл бұрын
Actually a number of chinese and korean services that are similar to icloud give you an email address that is just numbers.
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 Жыл бұрын
Ok Now I Know How To Make An E-Mail Address To Confuse People
@lucius8675
@lucius8675 Жыл бұрын
This is the worst episode of "Beating Grand Masters with Stupid Stuff". Waiting till you and your opponent are maxed to take fights has to be the worst stupid strategy ever.
@Monotheist137
@Monotheist137 Жыл бұрын
these both compositions seems unbeatable to zerg
@sycariummoonshine7134
@sycariummoonshine7134 Жыл бұрын
Surely ghosts can snipe the disruptors even in this comp?
@electricitybomb
@electricitybomb Жыл бұрын
If only he made vikings instead of liberators
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