HEAD TO HEAD! Royal Enfield Interceptor VS BSA Goldstar! 650cc Super Middleweight Battle!

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Mr Darcy & The Ol' Man

Mr Darcy & The Ol' Man

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@patwalker9890
@patwalker9890 Жыл бұрын
Small detail, but the speedo and tach being 180 degrees from "normal" on the BSA is a charming touch.
@davidandrews2059
@davidandrews2059 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful guage cluster on the BSA
@tryarunm
@tryarunm Жыл бұрын
That's how all Brit bike speedometers - most made by Smiths - used to work. Easier to watch your speed when you are bent over, chin just above the tank filler cap, with the throttle wide open.
@Dave-in-France
@Dave-in-France Жыл бұрын
I definitely prefer the sound of the RE Interceptor, particularly on over run and when blipping to change down.
@JeremyHollier
@JeremyHollier Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that the Enfield has aftermarket silencers and an air filter mod. It's not standard 'off the shelf'.
@Dave-in-France
@Dave-in-France Жыл бұрын
@@JeremyHollier I get that Jeremy, but the BSA has a modified exhaust as well, apparently.
@dant9869
@dant9869 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremyHollier RE Interceptor starts at £6039 where BSA starts from £6500. Savings on RE will be enough for a set of aftermarket silencers
@JeremyHollier
@JeremyHollier Жыл бұрын
@@dant9869 It needs them as well, the standard ones on the RE look terrible to me😂 The sound is always going to be different, one is a single the other a twin. Exhaust note is always subjective, you pay your money and you take your choice. Having said that, who knows when you would actually receive a BSA!
@dant9869
@dant9869 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremyHollier I do like the sound of standard ones on my Interceptor, but I agree that they look a bit crap. I would like the BSA to do well as healthy competition is a good thing. Also more choice for riders who don't necessary want to spend 10k on a triumph or something similar.
@HippieBiker1369
@HippieBiker1369 Жыл бұрын
I really think the BSA looks better, and I would definitely consider buying one if it was available here in the States.
@michals1108
@michals1108 Жыл бұрын
I really think the RE looks better, and I would definitely consider buying one if it was available here in the UK. haha Im joking but I really think RE looks better,
@basedury
@basedury Жыл бұрын
i think the BSA looks more like the original, but the interceptor just looks like a super clean retro bike. i’ll probably go for the interceptor since i’m in the states too, and i like the black and red paint scheme.
@Metalguitarpete
@Metalguitarpete Жыл бұрын
All I can see is that radiator! It ruins the gold star
@martincvitkovich724
@martincvitkovich724 Жыл бұрын
@@Metalguitarpete Paint a rainbow on it and the libs will love it
@carloslitorja3324
@carloslitorja3324 Жыл бұрын
Keanu Reeves has one
@ludwigvonbuzzthoven
@ludwigvonbuzzthoven Жыл бұрын
The RE definitely looks and sounds better over all, but the tank on the BSA is an instant classic.
@markwilliamson2795
@markwilliamson2795 Жыл бұрын
Serious ? The welded lips on that tank are big enough to cause a high speed wobble....lol..take a look at the old ones...smooth...
@ruahinesrider
@ruahinesrider Жыл бұрын
R.E Glitter & Dust with chrome black & gold stripes magnificent & Mk 2 with chrome & red strip tanks look better than the BSA.So you can get a R.E with chrome tank & buy a Glitter & Dust tank on line if you prefer R.E but like the chrome tank of BSA. Pity all BSA engine casings aren't polished like the top model it cheapens the look & looks plastic. Also to many colours around engine casings on BSA too.
@simonwalker7957
@simonwalker7957 Жыл бұрын
Until you look closely, the chrome is diabolical. My Classic 350 bronze chrome is like a mirror but the BSA I looked at at my dealer was etched with a mesh of fine striations that makes it look like a steamed up mirror. To me the whole bike standing next to mine looks like a cheaper product but costs nearly double (I know it’s a bigger bike), very disappointing tbh. I wonder if the top model has a better finish but not seen anyone reviewing the Silver Line yet.
@bonjovi1354
@bonjovi1354 Жыл бұрын
to me bsa looks more better though the re was a little customised
@jlrutube1312
@jlrutube1312 Жыл бұрын
The wheels on the BSA look so much better than the RE ... but the engine on the RE is better looking.
@Zandaia
@Zandaia Жыл бұрын
The RE rides fantastically, threw away the stock slip-ons changing to custom shaved nearly 8kgs off the bike. Instantly nimbler, leans easier with a more muscular growl coming from the twins. In essence, the interceptor is sportier compared to the more laid back BSA. I love my interceptor to bits
@kilburncounty
@kilburncounty Жыл бұрын
You've done a great job capturing the sound! BSA looks and sounds great, but I'm keeping my Interceptor.
@GapBahnDirk
@GapBahnDirk Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! There are people who complain about the valve clearance check intervals on the RE with it's uncompicated air-cooled engine, but forget about the maintenance required on a water cooling system. A pump to maintain, potential rust in the lines, fluid change every four years. And yes, there is that radiator!
@stephenwandersonea1935
@stephenwandersonea1935 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the maintenance doesn't sound that bad. They seem to have a good warranty and if you get it from a decent dealership can probably just take it in during the three-year warranty period (I think it's 3 years anyways).
@jlrutube1312
@jlrutube1312 Жыл бұрын
I have a water cooled bike with 100,000 miles and I have never had to do anything to the pump. It's inside the motor and it takes 0 maintenance.
@NeilIves
@NeilIves Жыл бұрын
There may not be a pump. Thermosyphon works well.
@doughoffman9463
@doughoffman9463 Жыл бұрын
Is the valve clearance check and adjust as easy to do for yourself on the BSA as it is on the RE? Or is it a mandatory "take the bike to the dealer and wait and $pay$" situation?
@scotty_beast_rider
@scotty_beast_rider Жыл бұрын
Personally, I want to love the BSA but the Royal Enfield wins hands down for me. Great review 👍🏻
@johnbrandon9430
@johnbrandon9430 Жыл бұрын
Great review Mr Darcy, I had the same thoughts when test riding them, I was a little let down by the BSA as it had me out of the seat twice over a section of road I tested them on, the Enfield however, didn't, the other thing on the BSA was the clunky engine, the counter balance shafts stop vibration but not the clunk and It doesn't rev out like the Enfield, the rev limiter kicks in to soon. The Enfield has more top end power and speed and carves through corners with more verve. The Enfield for me. Keep up the great reviews.
@hiddenmortimer5189
@hiddenmortimer5189 Жыл бұрын
How tall are you? And what do you think of the legroom on both?
@johnbrandon9430
@johnbrandon9430 Жыл бұрын
@@hiddenmortimer5189 Hi, I'm 5'10" I found both have good leg room, the Enfield sits you a little more forward and the BSA more upright, both are comfortable.
@jaeger4966
@jaeger4966 Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling this one will get a (well deserved) fair amount of views!
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 Жыл бұрын
Looks wise I can't believe how good the royal enfield looks 😍
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 Жыл бұрын
The Royal Enfield would look a LOT better with bright aluminum or chrome wheels.
@gustavmeyrink_2.0
@gustavmeyrink_2.0 Жыл бұрын
I'd like the BSA fork on the Enfield!
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis Жыл бұрын
@@xtc2v Quality anodised rims have a very robust finish.
@sujitraul1097
@sujitraul1097 Жыл бұрын
@@geraldscott4302 and also with straight silencers
@shree397
@shree397 5 ай бұрын
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 not too long, classic 650 is coming up next.
@pauldavis8421
@pauldavis8421 Жыл бұрын
A good honest no nonsense review and very enjoyable ! Both good looking bikes, but i prefer the Interceptor ! i always look forward to your next review !
@Big_DT
@Big_DT Жыл бұрын
That Interceptor sounds awesome with those slip-ons!
@ReignitedDrifter
@ReignitedDrifter 6 ай бұрын
Those silencer are not legal mate
@Big_DT
@Big_DT 6 ай бұрын
@@ReignitedDrifter Not a problem in the US.
@ReignitedDrifter
@ReignitedDrifter 6 ай бұрын
@@Big_DT i am not sure about that.. But in most countries those modification are not street legal...
@Big_DT
@Big_DT 6 ай бұрын
@@ReignitedDrifter It's fine here in Texas, USA. We don't have emissions or DB level testing for motorcycle state inspections. In the US, many of our laws vary by state, so it may be illegal in other states, just not here in Texas.
@shree397
@shree397 5 ай бұрын
@@Big_DT The best things about the 650s is more are coming your way, classic 650 which is styled in a proper retro manner is coming this October to India, so maybe January will be the US launch date, then there is ultra retro Bullet 650. ROYAL ENFIELD IS ALSO IN THE MAKING OF A 750cc ENGINE DERIVED FROM THE SAME 650, BUT MAYBE IT WILL BE A MODERN TAKE AS IT WILL FIRST SIT IN HIMALAYAN FOR A MIDDLE WEIGHT ADV TOURER.
@andrerobertdrouin3642
@andrerobertdrouin3642 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the Royal Enfield although the mufflers should be more like the BSA . whay i like about the RE is the ease of working on it . Also the RE is more refined and smoother being a twin
@martincvitkovich724
@martincvitkovich724 Жыл бұрын
The BSA has a counterbalance to smooth the motor
@stiggy186
@stiggy186 Жыл бұрын
In a perfect world I'd have the Interceptor, Gold Star, and a W800 all in my garage. In the real world, I just have the Interceptor. Thanks for the excellent, honest, head-to-head comparison. Both bikes have a lot to offer, especially at the price.
@JP-yc1wp
@JP-yc1wp Жыл бұрын
That is not an honest comparison…
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan Жыл бұрын
@@JP-yc1wp Why do you think it’s not honest?
@mariogomes923
@mariogomes923 Жыл бұрын
RE service is worst, secondly RE dial are not perfect specialy fuel indicator, heating issue, foot pegs are not perfect, missing on led lights, crome gets rusted,to me RE is a junk, oil pilage from head, valve setting regular need to monitor, and so on.
@dhawan177
@dhawan177 4 ай бұрын
​@@mariogomes923Damn
@SilverIndian
@SilverIndian Жыл бұрын
Valves adjustment Enfeild 12.000 BSA 47.000
@HippieBiker1369
@HippieBiker1369 Жыл бұрын
That's a game changer!
@mrmoon1482
@mrmoon1482 18 күн бұрын
@@HippieBiker1369BSA shims Enfield Tappets 🙂
@michaelabernathy7013
@michaelabernathy7013 Жыл бұрын
Nice review Darcy! Do hope your Dad is healing well. Hard for me to be objective as an INT 650 owner. Here are my thoughts: 1) BSA liquid cooling. Like has been already mentioned in other comments, there is complication and extra maintenance. Bike water pumps generally separate the engine oil and coolant by a seal or o-ring. They are known to fail with age. Plus 1 for the Interceptor. 2) Low slung pea shooter exhaust can is great looking. The rest of the exhaust and shield looks awful. 3) Tank looks excellent on the BSA and that Highland Green color is my favorite. 4) Interceptor seat comfort is often a complaint. Other reviews have stated the BSA seat is more comfy. 5) BSA? Where are they? After stating that the Goldstar was to be produced in the UK nothing more has been said. So, what did Mahindra do? Take the small number of display models, cut down the exhaust shield and 2 years later make a few available for testing all the while pushing for deposits? Smells a bit fishy to me. 6) The BSA has genuine Brembo brakes which the MCN review showed shorter stopping distance. Of course, they had to kill 'Elvis' to do it. 7) RE's new lineup is proving to be reliable. Not perfect, but positive. They are establishing more Dealer arrangements. Parts are reasonably available and RE accessories are reasonably priced. What about BSA? 8) Handling is supposedly better on the Interceptor. With the brilliant Harris designed frame/chassis does that come as a surprise? 9) And finally. Sorry for the novel. I would rather have easy valve lash screw and lock nut adjusters than bucket and shim type no matter how much more often the RE's require.
@siddharthakvr5154
@siddharthakvr5154 Жыл бұрын
I live in India and I haven't even seen a goldstar on the streets yet. Not much publicity was put into BSA tbh
@himangshumahanta5398
@himangshumahanta5398 Жыл бұрын
@@siddharthakvr5154 Because the BSA is not sold in India.
@siddharthakvr5154
@siddharthakvr5154 Жыл бұрын
@@himangshumahanta5398 that's fucking stupid man....why not!
@amalbabz
@amalbabz Жыл бұрын
@Siddhartha KVR man ...bsa is not yet launched in india...hopefully it will launch in india on coming year
@kasperkjrsgaard1447
@kasperkjrsgaard1447 9 ай бұрын
After 16 years and 100.000 miles the waterpump on my bike stil works without any problems. Nothing except fluids have been changed.
@mochi9059
@mochi9059 Жыл бұрын
Video everyone needed. It's so hard to choose between thise two.
@pauljohnson4948
@pauljohnson4948 Жыл бұрын
The BSA needs to come with a center stand.
@davidandrews2059
@davidandrews2059 Жыл бұрын
Sad, but thats exactly what will make people choose the RE over the BSA. A lot of small things, but especially with that center stand, it adds up in the RE's favor
@NeilIves
@NeilIves Жыл бұрын
Yes, no centre stand is a PITA!
@rishavganguly1687
@rishavganguly1687 3 ай бұрын
the goldstar has been officially launched in India just a couple of days ago and here the centre stand can be purchased as an additional accessory
@michaelgwynne8553
@michaelgwynne8553 Жыл бұрын
Just love the looks of the Enfield, toured Spain last year on my Enfield and the engine was great.
@midhungopan9270
@midhungopan9270 6 ай бұрын
They co engineerd with triumph to build that engine and it is evident on the quality
@stephensalt6787
@stephensalt6787 Жыл бұрын
The BSA looks best from the offside, the Enfield looks great from either side, single versus twin will mostly come down to personal preference I suspect. Good review.
@giorgisyr1
@giorgisyr1 Жыл бұрын
I may sound odd but I would definitely buy the BSA looks with a RE engine.
@black8art
@black8art Жыл бұрын
What impressed me most about the Interceptor, over the BSA was the potential for CUSTOMISING, built-in! It is such a good bike out of the box, just like the Goldstar, BUT, it was designed to accept an infinite variety of customisation, and performance parts, allowing you to, for a VERY reasonable price, build the bike to your own specs! The BSA is a tribute to an existing and ICONIC machine, and would feel "wrong" if you started messing with what BSA delivered! As such, the Royal Enfield DESERVES every accolade it has garnered so far, and probably is due many more in the future! The BSA will appeal to a LOT of nostalgia fans, seeking the feeling of a modern bike with classic looks. I would also like to own both, but I don't have a shed, let alone the garage space to keep them.
@NeilIves
@NeilIves Жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing me the first ride without the baffle in the silencer. 👍 They both sound like real motorbikes.
@normhardy
@normhardy Жыл бұрын
To me, the BSA looks better. But the RE is good looking and likely has a more durable engine.
@phils2180
@phils2180 Жыл бұрын
I think the Beeza just has it on the full "Classic" look, the RE is more of a classic/modern mix with the lights and suspension etc. I reckon the gold anodised rear shocks on the RE are trying to mimic Ohlins units, hardly necessary IMO. Single vs Twin, similar power maybe but completely different feel, just choose which you prefer. You hit on an important point with the current supply and delivery issues. That coupled with the RE now being a well known and proven marque could swing many a potential BSA buyer's decision.
@martincvitkovich724
@martincvitkovich724 Жыл бұрын
Those BSA motors have been around for decades. I forget what company makes them, but they competed in flat track here in the states
@MrJpb2000
@MrJpb2000 Жыл бұрын
Great video but really down to personal choice…easy decision for me, the Interceptor without hesitation. 👊😎👍
@mariogomes923
@mariogomes923 Жыл бұрын
I love the BSA over the interceptor, on long run I think BSA will last for many years in my garage than interceptor.
@2wheeledwillie395
@2wheeledwillie395 Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 Interceptor all day long for me (I've got one!) but I really hope the BSA is a success
@garyseaton4619
@garyseaton4619 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Been looking at the RE for quite a while. Love everything about it. BSA is such a classic bike and it looks spectacular. I've never ridden a single. This is a difficult choice. The upgraded intake and exhaust for this RE really works for me. Upgrade the intake and put some better rear shocks on the BSA. How would they compare then? I like the look of the BSA a little better but the look of the engine on the RE is exceptionally nice. I'd love to get both! Both would still be cheaper than any Harley...
@davegeraghty2187
@davegeraghty2187 Жыл бұрын
Singles are great, the original BSA long stroke thumpers feel like the torque is on a rubber band that cushions you briefly before ramping up in power at crazy low revs. This BSA doesn't sound like it would behave that way and is a modern single underneath. Still lots of fun and loads of low end torque. The RE twins would just be more versatile, less strain at higher motorway speeds. If it was only one bike I owned it probably wouldn't be a single but if I had two the second would more than likely be a single :)
@eldritchshiner
@eldritchshiner Жыл бұрын
Get one! I totally love mine. I have those same S&S pipes and and the DNA air filter/box.
@tryarunm
@tryarunm Жыл бұрын
Never ridden a single? Over 99.99% of people here in India have never ridden anything with more than one cylinder. You ought to test ride the Bullet 350 and the BSA. Singles have their own charm and, because they seem so much more vulnerable, much easier to feel protective about and to fall in love with.
@tryarunm
@tryarunm Жыл бұрын
If you can get to ride a classic Brit single you will experience the effect of the heavy flywheel; the rhythm never breaks, not even when you go too slow in any gear, and the bike will then accelerate smoothly without any jerkiness. Our grand daddies who rode them were truly pampered.
@meAK2403
@meAK2403 Жыл бұрын
The twins sounds amazing, listen to both using an earphone and the RE sounds amazing.. RE all the way.. Nice video.. The rubber spring on the RE shock absorber are added so there is no dirt that enters the exhaust.. 👍
@richardgitz2264
@richardgitz2264 Жыл бұрын
Nice job Mr. Darcy. I'm all in on the BSA if it ever gets to the States. I'd be keener on the Enfield if the maintenance schedule was equal to the BSA. We're lucky we have a choice of such nice bikes.
@ashokkumar-tm9gp
@ashokkumar-tm9gp 4 ай бұрын
Am from India ,yesterday I was done bsa test at gujarat ,low end perfomance was goods to handle in city easily, but highway compare to RE, perfomance was not upto the level
@marcheighton6436
@marcheighton6436 Жыл бұрын
The RE just looks more balanced and stylish I must declare I own one so I am biased but each looks good in its own way 🌲
@joedudz
@joedudz Жыл бұрын
Test rode the Interceptor. Wasn't expecting massive performance obviously but it didn't have much character. Saw both side by side yesterday. Not much between them but the top of the range BSA tipped it on looks. Radiator was not an issue in the flesh If the single cylinder engine has more character then that's the one I'd go for.
@ianhughesroyalenfield
@ianhughesroyalenfield Жыл бұрын
Great head to head comparison. As an Interceptor owner since 2020, I am bound to be slightly biased, but when I test rode the BSA, as much as I tried not to compare the two, I found it difficult to do so. In my opinion, the Interceptor looks better in all aspects. I am not overly keen on the instrumentation on the BSA, as classically styled as it is, and the idiot lights are hard to see at a glance due to being located at the top of the headlight. I prefer the power delivery from the Interceptor, the suspension on the Interceptor is a bit harsh out of the crate compared to the BSA, but I fitted a pair of inexpensive preload spacers at the front which worked a treat, and YSS Goldtop shocks on the rear which are just fantastic once dialled in. I found the rear shocks on the BSA to be a tad soft. The Interceptor has a far sportier feel, with the BSA feeling a more laid back, almost cruiser ish. I hope to take the BSA out again in the spring, as when I rode it, the temp was -3 (I think), and the roads were wet and greasy, not ideal conditions. In my review, I do state that I wouldn’t exchange either my Interceptor or Classic 350 for a BSA, and I stand by that. Thanks for putting this comparison up, I appreciate how much time it takes to put this together. Cheers
@stephenwandersonea1935
@stephenwandersonea1935 Жыл бұрын
You like the Classic 350 better too. Makes me think I maybe should get one of those.
@ianhughesroyalenfield
@ianhughesroyalenfield Жыл бұрын
@@stephenwandersonea1935 obviously the 350 is down on power, but it’s a lovely ride providing acceleration and 65+ mph isn’t important to you. The laid back attitude is perfect for slow A & B roads. Plus, wherever you stop, people of a certain age just come up and chat. No doubt they would with the BSA too though.
@pradippradhan5014
@pradippradhan5014 Жыл бұрын
Which one is feel good, joy to ride ? Basically im not a speed freak person. I just want to enjoy the ride. So Interceptor 650 or classic350 ? Regard.
@ianhughesroyalenfield
@ianhughesroyalenfield Жыл бұрын
@@pradippradhan5014 without wanting to self promote on someone else's channel, if you tap on my symbol, I do ride vids on both, and talk about them a great deal. At the end of the day, it's down to personal choice, as to whichever feels right to you. Both the 650 and 350 are great at what they do. If speed is never an issue then the 350 will be fine. If however, you want to let rip occasionally, then the 650. Hope this helps.
@chrisbolton5461
@chrisbolton5461 Жыл бұрын
Great video with a really honest take on both bikes. Love the stationary back drop.
@peterthomas7203
@peterthomas7203 Жыл бұрын
I thought from the first release that the Interceptor is a lovely bike but looked 'heavy'. Seeing it alongside the BSA, it looks more so. I still love it though, as you say, they just have different characteristics on a similar theme. I wish I could afford both but can't even buy one! 😕 Thanks for another great review.
@cousinjack2841
@cousinjack2841 Жыл бұрын
That was a really good comparison, one of the most comprehensive I've seen. I love both of 'em; nothing for it but one for each boot methinks. Subscribed.
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Welcome aboard 👍🏼👍🏼
@mikecartlidge5355
@mikecartlidge5355 Жыл бұрын
The verdict of these test rides was a good one in the fact it boils down to which bike you prefer the most. The big thing in all this is that India has opened up the retro market up even wider and with Royal Enfield's new range of bikes the world is your oyster. As far as the saving of the name Norton I do hope that as well as the top of the range machines they design a more affordable machine for the guy on the street, just as back in the early days the Norton International was out of most riders price range but there were plenty of more affordable models to chose from with the Norton name on the tank.
@marcusthompson4931
@marcusthompson4931 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the balanced view of the two bikes When it comes to parting with cash to buy one I think BSA have a long way to go to build some trust in the re established brand A mate of mine is still looking forward to getting the bike he put a deposit down a long while ago I see a lot of the RE dealers taking on BSA but with little evidence of brand support like stock I ride a Himalayan after years away Next investment will be an Interceptor Guzzi V7 or an old R Nine T
@sudeepmore1525
@sudeepmore1525 4 ай бұрын
While the Royal Enfield 650cc parallel twin engine is a buttery smooth unit, not sure what to expect from the single cylinder 650cc Goldstar. The BSA Goldstar seems 20 to 25 thousand rupees overpriced in India!
@atharvanaik3729
@atharvanaik3729 4 ай бұрын
Just amazed by the looks of BSA Goldster 650 it gust looks categorically stunning......waiting for its launch in India
@motorbikerscosmeticcompany1594
@motorbikerscosmeticcompany1594 Жыл бұрын
First proper head to head review I've seen, well done for that. I think the RE looks and sounds better whereas the BSA is essentially a jawa. That said the BSA is a rotax lump so super reliable (jawa are very reliable despite popular belief) and wont need touching, unlike the RE which has silly valve servicing requirements. Annoyingly the rotax is said to be capable of 90 bhp but restricted due to jawa frame shocks etc, but this may be possible to liberate. Given the choice I'd probably go BSA for the proven rotax engine and I love the feel of a big single. Looking forward to the review of the Meteor, it's the first RE I've sat on that feels big enough. I definitely trust your opinion compared to other reviews. Sorry for the essay.
@FoxArcher
@FoxArcher Жыл бұрын
I have sat on both the interceptor and the super meteor. I am 6'4" and weirdly I felt more cramped on the meteor. I was hitting the tank emblems with my knees.
@onecookieboy
@onecookieboy Жыл бұрын
You should probably check out MCN and Nevsey's comparison test a couple of weeks ago, at least he comes to a conclusion instead of just sitting on the fence. This was just regurgitating what we already know. BTW, there is no way the BSA/Rotax can reliably make 90hp, perhaps a race engine that gets rebuilt every 100 hours of running but not an everyday road bike. For reference, the 2022 Honda crf450r makes around 50hp and needs a top end rebuild, new piston and rings every 150 hours, oil changes every 10 hours, majorly expensive to run.
@motorbikerscosmeticcompany1594
@motorbikerscosmeticcompany1594 Жыл бұрын
@@onecookieboy Seems a bit harsh. I think Darcy does a good job, v professional. I know he's not been road legal long but he seems more clued up than a lot of born again "reviewers". I'd trust his opinion to be unbiased and honest when compared to MCN's. The more reviews the better to form a real picture. I'm inclined to agree with you that it's unlikely a single like that would make 90hp but who knows, maybe at a push, at the crank? Until we get our hands on the bikes, we're all just regurgitating. As for the crf, yes it is after all..........Honda lol.
@onecookieboy
@onecookieboy Жыл бұрын
@@motorbikerscosmeticcompany1594 TBH I think the vast majority of YT reviewers, whether it's bikes or cars, are just trying to put out content and to get looks and likes because that's what gets them the $'s from YT. Because of this they are reluctant to say anything negative about a product because they might not get the opportunity to review other products from the suppliers. The MCN head to head on these two bikes was much more balanced and there was a clear preference for the RE.
@dry509
@dry509 Жыл бұрын
Please advise…does a single not need valve adjustments?
@Flyingscotsman3
@Flyingscotsman3 Жыл бұрын
Evening Darcy That Re has had a heap of ££££ put on it in extras. Crash bars,seat,exhausts just from what can be seen. Wonder how much in total cash wise?. Standard to standard, might have just been better. The bsa hasn't....had anything, from what I see. Good video though mate, hope your all good. Cooperb great dealer....and Ian a really sound bloke. Safe rides.....🏍🏁
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan Жыл бұрын
We get what we get sometimes. In an ideal world BSA and Enfield would send us 2 bikes, but in reality we turn up and make the best of what we’re presented with 👍🏼
@toddleyland1131
@toddleyland1131 Ай бұрын
I love this channel. And I love you decidedly came down on being undecided. I love my RE Interceptor, so easy to do, and now I’m thinking, I’d love a single BSA for the reasons you mentioned. I’m just not sure how to slip it by the Mrs. 😉
@nathanhenry.
@nathanhenry. Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on hitting 70 thousand subscribers
@andycochrane4131
@andycochrane4131 Жыл бұрын
BSA. That big thumper sounded great, and it’s such a beautiful looking machine. No idea if or when they’re coming to Australia. Take my money!!!
@Guvnarides-WI2020
@Guvnarides-WI2020 Жыл бұрын
The INT is on my Spring list as another stable addition...great review of two really sweet looking bikes! 👍🍻
@johnpflug1567
@johnpflug1567 Жыл бұрын
Great on-the-road videos and comparison! The BSA's styling is tops; the RE is a better overall bike at this point. Personally, I am waiting to see how the BSA fairs reliability wise, for an updated suspension, and for aftermarket accessories to become available. Also, there are rumours about new RE 650 models coming soon, namely a Continental GT with USD forks, mag wheels and tubeless tires, plus a 650 Classic. I now own an '06 Honda ST 1300 and an '06 Yamaha Roadliner S (1854 cc air cooled V-Twin). Will have to thin the herd a bit (including a car or two) in order to purchase a BSA and a Royal Enfield..........
@davidsy423
@davidsy423 Жыл бұрын
I do love the BSA’s Ive had two 125 batam, and 650 lighting but watching You Tube on the BSA’s and the royal Enfield I think the Royal Enfield is the better bargain in terms of looks, style, smoothness of acceleration, much nicer fittings as speed dials and controls, the exhaust sound was smooth, I would buy the Enfield and Im seriously thinking about it. Dave Hampshire
@skymegamarshal
@skymegamarshal Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Having driven the interceptor for a few thousand kilometres on all kinds of roads and seasons (except for snow), I can definitely agree that it is an excellent motorcycle, be it for touring or on the track. Plus you can customise it into whatever you want as there are a number of bolt on cafe racer and scrambler kits available for it in the market. And, you will never have trouble getting parts or finding a skilled mechanic for it. That said, it can be quite a hassle when you drive in a bumper to bumper traffic situation (you could perhaps make an omelette or a kebab over the engine given the heat when driving in traffic on a particularly hot day in southern India). One must also be cautious when riding them over gravel or off-road situations (but to be fair to these motorcycles, they are built for good roads, highways and tracks). However, in my humble opinion, the BSA looks much better and more put together. I also love the clocks (I e., gauges) on it and I am completely fine with it being a big single. Can't wait to ride one and see what it feels like. Hope they bring it to our markets soon.
@manucsharma
@manucsharma 7 күн бұрын
Visually the larger radiator in front sticks out more in Goldstar. Also larger looking disc brake makes spokes less visible.
@peterdejong6570
@peterdejong6570 11 ай бұрын
I've just bought the Interceptor 650 sunset-stripe model 2024. I love the looks and simplicity of the Interceptor. Most of my previous bikes were Triumph's , the last one was a 2009 Street Triple 675R.But i am getting older and don't want to ride like an hooligang on a hooligang bike what de Streety is.The Interceptor brings me back in time with lots of fun as I had on my Meriden Daytona 500 and T140.
@murraymarshall5865
@murraymarshall5865 Жыл бұрын
I fitted a 2 into 1 exhaust saving around 12kg and a free flow air filter, these small changes have made a big difference to the performance, though it will never be a sports bike, it is though a joy to ride.
@colincoleman2536
@colincoleman2536 Жыл бұрын
BSA sounds better on your video than any other I've watched definitely sparked my interest in getting a test ride, well done for sharing.
@snoopycharlie8718
@snoopycharlie8718 4 ай бұрын
RE sounds amazing in the drive away clip 4:20
@stephenphillip5656
@stephenphillip5656 8 ай бұрын
I think you summed up the dilemma when you said that you got off *both* bikes with a smile on your face. I think it may just come down to brand loyalty. The Beezer does have a lot of catching up to do but it seems like a worthy challenger to the RE. Both are pitching at the "modern classic" market & don't forget Triumph's new 400 either. My garage could get a bit crowded...🙄
@jons78733
@jons78733 Жыл бұрын
I live here in the States and don’t know where one would go to even look at the Goldstar. The dealer network and parts distribution for Royal Enfield is ever-growing. The three-year warranty with RE is huge - not to mention the roadside assistance they offer. At this point I look at the BSA as a vapor bike. BSA needs some financial backing if they want to put even a dent in the Royal Enfield sales numbers.
@441rider
@441rider Жыл бұрын
They have enough customers in south east asia already, India has extremely wealthy people to pick up where the UK gave up.
@stanleyknife1967
@stanleyknife1967 Жыл бұрын
With those pipes and air box, the RE sounds brilliant, although the BSA does have a nice growl with the baffles out. Both look pretty good, but only time will tell how well the BSA stands up. Concerning the engines - that’s how the BSA engines looked form the late 40s early 50s! I think what you mean is the materials used and the finish makes the BSA engine look more modern.
@RE650NZGraeme
@RE650NZGraeme Жыл бұрын
I was very impressed with the recordings on the bikes - the exhaust sound coming through really clearly and fruity / throaty! Yes I prefer the sound of the twin more, and the burble on the over-run is a joy to hear! I need to get the S&S slip-ons too, and the Touring seat! I think the steeper raked forks on the RE give it an edge in the corners, a bit more flickable and quicker to drop in to a corner. It tracks a fair bit better than my old R1200RT, but that maybe suspension failing on the old heavy girl! Oh and no centre stand on the BSA, makes chain work, tyre air topping, and cleaning a lot harder without. Great review - I like the more compact nature of the RE 650 twin engine, and lots of polished aluminium - it does take a fair bit of work to keep shiny! Both pretty frugal on fuel, and both old school styling of the 60's. Graeme NZ
@sayanmandal1289
@sayanmandal1289 Жыл бұрын
The fact that both are own by Indian companies so they are Indian now . 😊
@niparts81
@niparts81 4 ай бұрын
My choice would be the Royal Enfield Interceptor in Sunset Strip color and black spoked rims. Excellent composition!
@64faffi
@64faffi Жыл бұрын
German magazine MOTORRAD recently did a 50.000 km long term test on the RE 650, and they tend to ride much harder than most owners will. Still, at the end of the test, the engine internals presented themselves virtually as new. Only the piston pins showed a little wear.
@ralfybaby
@ralfybaby Жыл бұрын
This is good info thx
@reubinthomas
@reubinthomas Жыл бұрын
Fortnine also did a test of engine oil between service intervals. Royal Enfield came up on top with little to no micro particles present in the oil.
@billy.g3597
@billy.g3597 Жыл бұрын
On paper these two bikes are so close together. What it boils down to is what flavour retro you prefer. The 60's retro look of the BSA or the 70's retro look of the RE. As for the sound, I prefer the urgent growl of the twin, to the raucous bellow of the single. In the end my choice, based on sight and sound, would be the RE (I can remember the 70's).....
@nashwilliams5852
@nashwilliams5852 Жыл бұрын
Good verbiage, and I agree in regards to the sound. I do think the BSA looks a bit better.
@simonhall5086
@simonhall5086 Жыл бұрын
Yes definitely, the 70s look of the interceptor for me👍, sounds amazing too.
@peterdavies4969
@peterdavies4969 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this review of 2 super machines. I’ve always been a fan of the original Gold Star and for that reason, I wish I liked it the most. But, if I had to choose, I think the sound and the more ‘muscley’ look of the RE just pips it. I’d be delighted to own either or preferably, both. Thanks for the vid. Top work!
@flatcapcaferacer
@flatcapcaferacer Жыл бұрын
Fairly done. Riders preferences on soft and wallowing or stiff and bumpy, water or aircooled, deep sound or a more edgy sound makes a difference. I expect riders will boil their choices down to the appearances. Personally I'd say a bit more money and buy the Triumph T100.
@tomkonig9670
@tomkonig9670 Жыл бұрын
For me the Interceptor looks a bit more adult.
@miguelangelmartinezmonuera3995
@miguelangelmartinezmonuera3995 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Im agree with you,for that reason I choose bsa.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
It’s a VERY close call! Juuuust the BSA for me, purely on the weight distribution being lower
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan Жыл бұрын
Fair enough! I really love them both, the sound the Royal Enfield makes is winning me over!
@duncancleverley6366
@duncancleverley6366 Жыл бұрын
Great review thank you.. both great bikes. I have yet to test the BSA myself… but my thoughts, for what they’re worth, are that just visually I don’t like the RE exhaust or piggyback shocks.. both would need replacing from day one. I couldn’t live with them.. whereas the BSA visually I absolutely could live with visually straight out of the crate. From your review it seems it’s a close call and that might just swing it for me.. enjoyed the video.. keep them coming!
@awesomeappleby5923
@awesomeappleby5923 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, but have already tested it and get a black gold star on march 1st
@ZaidAnsari-un5pu
@ZaidAnsari-un5pu 3 ай бұрын
I really love what classic legends did with the fuel tank cap
@praveene5921
@praveene5921 Жыл бұрын
One of the best bike reviewing Channel ever.
@stefanmaslaczyk1259
@stefanmaslaczyk1259 Жыл бұрын
Agree with your comments about the gold anodised rear shocks. Seems a strange choice for a retro bike. Surely RE could order them in black?
@user-jn7bq8wh1e
@user-jn7bq8wh1e 3 ай бұрын
🙏 Bro knows his audience 😊 Whichever bike u choose, customer is the winner Im glad RE and Mahindra aren't chasing the electric bandwagon...for the time being
@soshsiB
@soshsiB Жыл бұрын
Both bikes are nice. A test ride will help as you said, because everyone should find out if you are a single or twin engine type of person. Cheers and good look with selecting “your” dreambike 👍🏼
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy, I’ve actually already got my dream bike 😁
@dasko3
@dasko3 Жыл бұрын
Great video lads. I would go for the RE, but would be tempted to pick up a Kawasaki W800, they feel a bit lighter despite being heavier than the RE. Would love to see you guys review one of those.
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan Жыл бұрын
We’d love to but Kawasaki won’t play ball and they’ve axed the W800 in the uk too!
@thatguy1060
@thatguy1060 Жыл бұрын
I just they also offered a kickstarter only, which would save on weight and maybe cost, plus it's cool. My magneto 1976 Yamaha XT500 starts cold on 2 kicks without a battery.
@-old-school-motorcyclesltd
@-old-school-motorcyclesltd Жыл бұрын
Great video again Mr Darcy I love them both and would have both 😊😊 I’ve recently tested them both and I personally prefer the BSA but by a margin The BSA sounds a lot better with the baffle removed and sounds like one one my old BSA singles 😊😊 love it 😊😊 to add I preferred the gearbox also on the BSA and had no issues with the suspension when I tested the BSA 😊😊
@Angeloflight444
@Angeloflight444 Жыл бұрын
I realized it's very therapeutic for me to watch these clips of you riding them from a driver's perspective on top of the bike. For me personally this particular RE sounds better but like you said they are both good in their own way so it boils down to preference. Also if you change exhausts and stuff that can have a big impact on the sound of a bike doesn't it? Thank you and cheers! 👍👏
@Aarvind07
@Aarvind07 4 ай бұрын
Amazing video with deep information on both Indian machine, designed in UK🎉
@chrisdagnall8666
@chrisdagnall8666 Жыл бұрын
These are both really nice bikes and I think it’s difficult to pick between them. I have a RE Interceptor and Continental GT and was looking at changing the interceptor in the summer, the BSA is in the frame, however the RE Super Meteor complicates the decision. I do enjoy your videos.
@robertbrooks9687
@robertbrooks9687 Жыл бұрын
That Royal Enfield just looks & sounds gorgeous, that's the one for me!!
@lancerbiker5263
@lancerbiker5263 Жыл бұрын
Interceptor would look good next to my Meteor Fireball. Makes a great sound.
@CGCEifel
@CGCEifel Жыл бұрын
Usually i'm a RE fanboy talking visuals, but the BSA is awesome. The dead straight / triangular part of the frame beneath the little too fat seat always annoyed me on the interceptor. The BSA has some way more elegant lines and proportions overall out of the box. And the tank is simply to kneel down. Great comparison, thank you.
@Fusionaire
@Fusionaire Жыл бұрын
wow you just made me realize which part was always an eyesore on my neighbor's INT 650, that triangle always bothered me compared to the rest of the beauty, but it was kind of sub conscious but now that you have mentioned it, i know that triangle is definitely not proportionately beautiful with the rest of the bike.
@CGCEifel
@CGCEifel Жыл бұрын
@@Fusionaire If you look at the triangle and the frame underneath the seat, it looks like the math- root sign. Maybe that's what bothers me as a math genius 😂
@Fusionaire
@Fusionaire Жыл бұрын
@@CGCEifel is that not a good thing as a math genius?😃
@CGCEifel
@CGCEifel Жыл бұрын
@@Fusionaire 🤣
@Dreddingbath
@Dreddingbath Жыл бұрын
Great review… difficult choice but which one? RE edges it, BSA doesn’t quite deliver on the promise, a bit too much plastic close up.
@jimmarshall807
@jimmarshall807 Жыл бұрын
The Enfield was on my short-list when I bought a Guzzi 850 V7 a couple of years back and I think I'd still take it over the BSA. Twin cylinders, better looks and finish (are those stacked-rifle stickers on the pseudo-pushrod cover on the right of the engine?), more secure handling and established dealer backup would make the difference.
@jkartz92
@jkartz92 4 ай бұрын
Especially the engine portion in BSA looks unique design!
@spacepodi
@spacepodi Жыл бұрын
It’s great to have a choice. I don’t think I’d be sulking too much if I owned either bike.
@andreglomm9843
@andreglomm9843 Жыл бұрын
Really nice Video with a lot of great different camera Angles and a lot of information. Both of them a pretty nice Bikes but too small for me with my 6'5"
@T4Van-E-daycamp
@T4Van-E-daycamp 3 ай бұрын
I like both. I’m torn between the two as well. I love singles. But i prefer a smaller radiator and centre stand of the twin. And at i my age i need a comfy ride. So i’m slightly leaning to the Enfield. Shame .. in my youth i had and loved a BSA.
@keithmayes4842
@keithmayes4842 Жыл бұрын
Great review 👏 I would love an interceptor, it sounds great , but I wouldn't complain if both bikes were in my garage, shame there's no room 😁
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could evict the car from the garage. Its tight in there between the bike and the car. I'm thinking of building a ramp to park the bike on.
@momarsden3053
@momarsden3053 Жыл бұрын
Great review, well presented thank you 👍. For me the RE gets the nod. 😊👍.
@RaghvendraSingh-gy2nx
@RaghvendraSingh-gy2nx Жыл бұрын
The interceptor has been around for a while . I would go for that .
@bosedk4
@bosedk4 4 ай бұрын
That Namaskar 🙏is Ultimate Love from India ❤
@gordonforbes9948
@gordonforbes9948 Жыл бұрын
Cracking video Definitely agree with you on which bike sounded the best, maybe not as easy to tell while riding.
@grahamtricker4103
@grahamtricker4103 Жыл бұрын
The engine on the BSA is water cooled and made by Rotax. Whereas the RE's engine is made by RE and is air/oil cooled. The small radiator on the RE is in fact an oil cooler. Personally I would save up and buy a Triumph T120. Nice review guys 👍
@splodge57
@splodge57 Жыл бұрын
A T100 would be fine.👍
@grahamtricker4103
@grahamtricker4103 Жыл бұрын
@@splodge57 Yes, perfect. 👍
@shreeshdixit3391
@shreeshdixit3391 9 ай бұрын
My Comparision as ; 1.Wide Spreading silencer pipes gives gangster looks feel unhappy and, In BSA it gives a gentleman looks 2. RE 270° Twin balance also destroys good vibes and, Goldstar make pure possible thump in DOHC single Cylinder set up, making good vibes 3. Back mudgard finish in RE is also like unfinished type make in hurry but in BSA they give time and dedication to match it with classic theme I Think So, I hope many people also find the same 😊😊😊😊
@johnhelliwell2591
@johnhelliwell2591 Жыл бұрын
BSA for me . Had many twins over the years . Ridden both these bikes but i like the big 650 thumping single . Brembo brakes ally rims phantoms twin ohc with buckets n shims twin plug head . Also the rotax motor is used in the BMW s650 ... if its good enough for BMW it'll do 4 me . Buying mine from EDDYS taddy . Told I'll have it march .
@michaelainslie7029
@michaelainslie7029 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps a deciding factor could be the cost, ease, and frequency of the service intervals.
@drmachinewerke1
@drmachinewerke1 6 ай бұрын
I own a RE with S&S slip ons . Sounds great .looking to buying a GoldStar once in the states .
@ChinmayLive
@ChinmayLive Жыл бұрын
Man, I wish you had RE Interceptor Chrome Edition against BSA.
@MrDarcy-OlMan
@MrDarcy-OlMan Жыл бұрын
We get what we get! It’s hard enough getting one bike let alone 2 👍🏼👍🏼
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