HEAD to HEAD!! Who is the king of BUDGET 2011's - MAC 9 DS 1911 or Prodigy DS 1911

Head to Head budget champions. 2 quality double stack 1911s go at it to see who is the best. The results are interesting. A true unbiased opinion.
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[@seanserra194]

Great video just subscribed. I just put 200 rounds down range with my mac ds9 today and it ran flawlessly. 400 rounds total so far with no issues.

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks for subscribing. I appreciate the support

[@Thomas-vt7cz]

Do you consider any upgrades if any needed??? 😎

[@Native_love]

I have a Tisas 1911 DS 9mm Carry 4.25in and it's the best handgun I've ever owned! Tight slide with tight groups and only 1 misfeed in over 850 rounds! I think my son was limp wristing it when the sole misfeed occurred so I don't think it was the gun's fault. Tisas makes an awesome 2011 and I'm definitely a believer now! Classic firearms has a crazy $100 sale today on them and you can always get one on Buds firearms. GREAT GUN!

[@carrollwaters5375]

Just purchased the Mac ds 1911. Just waiting for it to arrive. Looking forward to it. Very good comparison. Very positive review of both.👍🏼

[@mikechurchill1071]

There is actually a difference between a 2011 and a double stack 1911. The 2011 has a modular grip that you can remove from the frame where a double stack 1911 is all 1 piece be exchanged. The verbiage has been getting used interchangeably lately but that's what I read numerous times as office definitions. Love the video!!

[@b.c.731]

I got the 4.25 prodigy. It is nice in my opinion and I kinda got a early model. So far rolling smooth. Great video. I like the 2011 platforms. I'm new to them and don't want to pay thousands of dollars for the super good ones.

[@Uncleprepper1]

This helped me make my decision. Thank you!

[@rlbrewer2065]

Ok I am sold on the MAC thank you again bro

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

You’re welcome

[@rlbrewer2065]

I pulled the trigger on the MAC today .... now I just got to wait the 10 days to actually get it ... I will keep you posted .. thank you again for the awesome review that helped me through this process

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

@@rlbrewer2065 10 days, wow. I hope you enjoy it.

[@bradgluvna7764]

I have a Tisas duty 2011 9mm ds it is a shooter for sure. 700 rds of Tula that has been sitting around for years no issues runs like a champ.

[@KNIGHTOFSIN187]

Excellent comparison 🔥 debating between these 2 atm and apollo 11 compact

[@HammerliFanBoy]

Just stumbled on your channel while surfing gun videos. Watched a few of your other vids. I'm a subscriber now.

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thank you

[@neverendingmods]

With all the issues the Prodigy tends to have, and nobody knows if they'll get one that runs or not, the MAC should be the pick.

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Only the first gens had problems.

[@desertsoldier41]

The problems were mostly with the disconnector being stiff and an unramped breech. Doing a disconnector spring adjustment or making a marvel cut fixed those problems when using a light recoil spring.

[@Thomas-vt7cz]

What up Zack Attack the MAC looked flatter to me on camera bruh... Glad I picked up a MAC 9 DS good job bruh..! 😎

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks Bro

[@dennisdixon8166]

The one thing i could tell right away from the range sesion is That Fat gun with guns Has SKILLS. LOL great video Zack Price will probably be King when it comes to the entry level 2011. The one i have seen come out all has good bones to start with. Thanks again

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thank you

[@damongriffith]

Us fat guys gotta be good. It's not like we're gonna run away. 😂

[@josephrodriguez9511]

An apollo 11 review would be awesome to compare since it's starting at $979.00 also.

[@MoistSmok]

Big fcatsssss, I was so dead set on the Apollo until I discovered the platypus now I litterally can’t stop thinking about it haha, I’m getting a huge itch that will be scratched haha

[@josephrodriguez9511]

@MoistSmok I've been eyeing that one hard also wish I could swing both.

[@MoistSmok]

@@josephrodriguez9511 factual same here! But to be honest I’m saving for the platypus since it’s so customizable and takes Glock mags not that I like Glock at all but the mags are readily accessible and cheap and I already have 5 lol but mainly the customization and especially now with the prickle grip and bull barrel it’s absolutely decided that I will have one haha, I’m gonna save for that and not buy anything other than accessories for my others u til I have my platy

[@josephrodriguez9511]

​@MoistSmok That's the one I'm going for to then have to buy a mountain of glock mags tho just to much that can be done to it not to .

[@MoistSmok]

@@josephrodriguez9511 absolutely, they are the only company I know of doing such custom work for that cheap not saying 2gs is cheap but in comparison so all the other stock 2011s from the last years

[@thearmzmen]

A nice comparison would be between the Tisas DS9 Night Stalker and the LFA Apollo 11. Good video 👍

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks Bro

[@MikeM-wz2mh]

Great job, but what I find crazy is why does MIM parts only apply to the 1911 platforms. It's never a concern with glocks

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thank you. Mike, I feel the same way. No one ever complains about MIM parts in a glock.

[@sv2697]

Better recoil control than the last video where dude I saw shooting the HK, CZ, canik, staccato at the indoor range.

[@hunchotv4796]

Great review mine comes tomorrow I can’t wait ! What carry holster would you recommend for concealed? With a HOLOSUN 507 c optic and a tlr 1-HL?

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Not sure. I haven’t looked into a holster for the gun yet.

[@cam2ss1le14]

I recently purchased a IWB holster for my MAC 9, going with the Tier1 Concealed MSP holster. This holster fits numerous guns, including 1911 style, as it is based off the light securing the firearm. I use the Streamlight TLR-1 HL lights exclusively. Great holster, by the way. Tier 1 is a great company.

[@Maurice3774]

Im a prodigy guy but about to get a bul

[@derrickbrewster7223]

Great comparison video

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thank you

[@FamilyFirearmReviews]

Have the tisas 9ds and it runs amazing!

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

I’m going to get the Tisa NightStalker DS.

[@ctellr38]

You’ve helped me with my decision.

[@CarrieWard-ny1zl]

In the same price range, I think I’d go for that Kimber..ds9c thing.. then that Springfield prodigy..

[@PatriotPaulUSA]

TISAS seems to be better than both of these choices. CNC is not a type of metal . CNC is a machining process. I believe what you SHOULD have said is Forged Parts vs MIM Parts. (metel injection molded) Drop Forging is a process to make the toughest metal parts. Its how good wrenches and sockets are made among many things. CNC machining can be performed on about ANY metal part. The Mo You Know. . . . .

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks.

[@royalflush8113]

The MAC 9 DS 1911 is a TISAS designed by Military Armament Corporation here in Knoxville, TN and made by TISAS in Turkey all the same forged 4140 carbon steel used on the TISAS duty and carry models only better in my honest opinion due to it coming with the 4.25 inch bull barrel we all love, its RMR optic ready and it has full size flashlight picatinny rail unlike the carry model which a lot of people are having problems with mounting bigger attachments to them. I just ordered my MAC 9 DS 1911 today it was about $1,000 and some change but im very content with my purchase. TISAS is definitely the way to go, even the firing pin is titanium on all of them. Shitting all over U.S.A made Springfield Prodigy.

[@fragrancejourney01]

Great breakdown bro. As a some what new shooter im gonna grab that Mac.

[@CarlosCruz-sz7mq]

Salutes from Puerto Rico.Planning to get me one as soon as they arrive in the island

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Shoutout to Puerto Rico

[@-_bigtap]

Great review

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks Bro

[@jaydabudgetgunbuyer3243]

GREAT VID!! That Prodigy seems to be a flatter shooter!!!

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks Bro. It is a flat shooter

[@BigDoggRegg]

Great video brother, u basically confirmed what i had already suspected about both guns. I'm REALLY glad to see u still rockin that Gideon Omega optic...how has that been holding up?...good i hope cuz i bought 8 of em!

[@deeone5231]

Nice vid big dawg🔥🔥🔥 I just ordered my MAC 9 DS💪🏽I had the Girsan 2311 and let me tell you it’s trash I sold it after a week of having it .Was horrible they dropped the ball on that gun.

[@davidhanson719]

Watched it back a few times, the casing appeared to bounce back off the optic causing the stove pipe. I have heard it is a common issue with the SRO and SRO clones because of it coming forward.

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks for the observation. I will watch out for that.

[@davidhanson719]

@FatGuyWithGuns No problem man. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to seeing where your channel goes.

[@kameronturner1014]

Check out the difference in the ambi safety using the right hand safety like a lefty would. It will show the difference between mim and forged

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Explain please.

[@kameronturner1014]

New subscriber. Keep up with the good content. The forged Mac has a very positive safety engagement using the physical right side paddle safety. It is 100% in my personal gun and the few others I have handled. Every prodigy’s ambi I have shot the right side safety has SLOP and only activates/ deactivates the safety maybe 75% of the time. This is no good in defensive or competitive uses. This is a common experience with MIM safeties in any 1911..I am a lefty and is the first thing I check with any 1911 patterned gun. Try it with your 2 examples. This is the reason I bought the Mac. Also check the wear patterns on the 2. This is a great cheat code into how the gun is made and wearing. The prodigy is good but the Mac wear patterns are better as the wear is shared across multiple bearing points.

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

@@kameronturner1014 I think you answered a question for me. I had to send the Prodigy back after 1500 rounds. It stopped extracting properly. One of the things they changed and I didn’t ask for was a new right side safety selector. I’m putting out a video about the Prodigy issue too. Thanks

[@kameronturner1014]

@@FatGuyWithGuns look forward to seeing it!

[@BullyProofTV]

Great comparison Zach. How do you think the Rock Island Tac Ultra would do in that comparison?

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks Bro. I think it would give them both some smoke

[@thinkmegatv]

Dope video Zach. Aye what magwell is that on the Prodigy?

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks Bro. EGW gun parts

[@thinkmegatv]

@@FatGuyWithGuns ok thanks

[@2A_TJ]

You need to fix your grip when shooting a 2011/1911 or any gun for that matter. Your strong hand thumb should sit on TOP of the thumb safety not below it or else you’ll accidentally bump it into safe under recoil. Secondly your support hand isn’t contacting the frame at all so your recoil control will never be great only having your strong hand do most of the work. The meat of your support hand should have nice contact with the frame. Just some helpful tips. Plenty of good videos on here explaining what I’m saying

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks

[@a.d.c7941]

Great vid bro

[@dkolb65]

Stove pipe could have been caused by the shells hitting your red dot while being ejected. I saw that on another video by Honest outlaw.

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks you

[@DJP-Love-ct84]

Question does the Tisas Mac 9 can I get that in 10 round capacity? I live in a state that not free.

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

I don’t think so

[@Selfdefense4k]

at 1:33 you mentioned cnc vs mims parts? what does that mean. which one is better?

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

So MIM parts are injection molded parts. CNC are cut from a solid piece of metal. CNC is supposed to be better.

[@onleejune8646]

Where did you get your magwell for The Prodigy and how much?

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

EGW gun parts. $50

[@johnnyarcuri]

All money aside as if they both cost the exact same amount. Which one would you pick?

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

The Prodigy gets the edge because of the stainless 5” barrel and I like the grip more.

[@Freedomishere-im6ug]

They stop using mim parts after 2015 I think But when in doubt take it apart and look

[@NEWYORK577]

Fire ass video bro luv the shooting

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thank you

[@spacecowboy301]

Time to compare mac 9 vs rock island armory

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

That’s a great idea. Standby

[@fatgodd0068]

Another great video

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks Bro

[@1970banjoman]

Is the magwell on the MAC 9 removable for better concealed carry? Thanks

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

I’m not sure. I’ll check

[@chrisferguson1911]

Yes.

[@1970banjoman]

@@chrisferguson1911 Thank you so much!!

[@JIMNNUTS]

Big fam what’s your favorite 2011

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

The Atlas Artemis.

[@williesirjesjam3150]

Great video!

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks Bro

[@GratonsYT]

You should send the mac 9 off to monsoon tactical and get it ported and stippled!

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Good idea

[@GratonsYT]

Think it would make a great video because that’s what I’m looking to do. Got recommended to your channel by Jo Harris. Great content

[@CarrieWard-ny1zl]

Damn, I don’t even have to see the shooting. I’m gonna say whatever is the opposite of the prodigy?

[@H-Town-Booman]

Appreciate the video big chief!!! I’m getting some gems from this one video. Might end up copying some of your methods on my channel. 🫡😁

[@georgebetor2943]

I would be happy if my prodigy would be reliable!

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Bro, I had to send it back to Springfield after 1500 rounds. It runs and feels better now. It only took 2 weeks.

[@Rhamlin7]

Now throw the lfa apollo 11 against each other in the mix

[@MrBiGGs-]

🔥🔥🔥 Video

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks Bro

[@MrBiGGs-]

No problem keep pushing 💪🏾 💯

[@ormcqu]

Nice video.

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thank you

[@lukeestep7775]

I have about 1000 rounds through my MAC 1911DS and I’ve had no issues running 115 grain all the way up to 147

[@bigwillsgamingwellman3621]

i have the mac 9 and have 1200 rounds through it on the stock 18lb recoil spring have 300 rounds on the 13lb recoil spring not a single malfunction with 115grn fmj. I have seen videos on it firing well on 147gn jhps 500 in a range day with the stock factory lube ran flawlessly. it must have been a magizine issue the prodigy 26 rnd mags due rattle when loaded up for some reason I wonder if the mbx comp mags due the same?

[@lukeestep7775]

@@bigwillsgamingwellman3621 where did you get 13 pound recoil spring

[@BigWillTactical]

Atlas gun works baught a 4 wolf spring kit for the 4.25 9mm springs 39.99

[@lukeestep7775]

@@BigWillTactical and it fits the MAC DS?

[@BigWillTactical]

Yes sir

[@mikechurchill1071]

I subbed cause the name was money 💰

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Thanks Bro

[@tsomers01]

Ejection on the MAC was pretty erratic.

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Probably going to have the extractor tuned at some point.

[@bigriz8280]

🔥💪🏾🔥

[@tnsquire3195]

I think the Tisas Nightstalker has these both beat.

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

I’m going to get one and see. The only downside to the Nightstalker is the optics footprint. Thats why I don’t have one. I’ve heard really good things about it.

[@tnsquire3195]

@@FatGuyWithGuns it does seem a bit odd that a gun this size is set up for micro red dot foot prints.

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

@@tnsquire3195 that’s what I said. It doesn’t make sense to me

[@BrandonD]

Apollo 11 compact

[@kennylovesguns7041]

👀👀💪🏿💪🏿

[@earthlyng_official4599]

Tisas isnt mac why are these videos saying it is?

[@NatanDaTater]

Mac designed the gun but tisas built it

[@boltvault400]

🦾🦾🦾🦾

[@Tusk_Tact]

Im riding with the Platypus

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

Different price range Bro

[@Tusk_Tact]

@@FatGuyWithGuns barely

[@SS-tr5ru]

The Mac 9ds is a far better gun than the prodigy for less money

[@FatGuyWithGuns]

They are really similar

[@deltaactual8286]

Nahh, the Mac jamming up, is unacceptable! I'll stick to my Glock 17

[@tnsquire3195]

Your Glock isn’t a 1911.

[@JHenkel24]

​@tnsquire3195 neither is this Turkish made, 9mm double stack.