Heads Up Duel Round 2, Anna Khait vs FBI, DNegs High Stakes Review - DAT Poker Podcast Episode

[@10jackoffsuit]

The key take is if you lose blame it on variance, but if you win it's "I told you so"

[@truthseeker5410]

Phil finds a way to win...period!! Daniel is definitely a better player regarding theory but Phil didn’t get 15 bracelets by not figuring out how to win! Phil deserves mad respect. Poker is situational in the short term!

[@hungrymikepencetd5686]

Na, Phil is better in the theory, but he doesnt talk 24/7 about it

[@GOSHMuzik]

As a fan of DNegs for 10+ years, somebody should just explain to him that fans of any “sport” don’t want to hear from the person who loses. We don’t want your strategy on how the opponent could’ve done “better” but he’s beaten you twice. It’s just not classy or competitive. I mean no disrespect at all, I’m just being honest and speaking from a true sportsmanship perspective.

[@skyshoesmith6098]

Speak for yourself lol

[@remedythis-dreamworld]

💨 neg-splaining: The repetitive act of making excuses after failing to live-up to ones inflated ego.

[@mattenderle1766]

Well said!

[@remedythis-dreamworld]

@@mattenderle1766 😂 thanks!

[@tccandler]

Daniel's EXACT verbatim quote: "If Phil and I were playing an entirely different type of poker, with different rules, different blind structure, unlimited hands, I would crush him." -- Okay, so maybe not verbatim... but essentially what Daniel is saying.

[@dnegspoker]

No limit hold'em. Keep the blinds the same. A blood bath. Total massacre.

[@tccandler]

​@@dnegspoker Phil won't play that game because his game selection is fantastic. Game selection is a skill (an underrated one).

[@MK-13337]

@@tccandler Yeah but your comment is laughably wrong. He only wants to play with a different blind structure. And yes, Daniel is saying he would crush. And any human can beat any poker format if you make him play with chimpanzees, so indeed game selection can win you money if you don't have poker skill.

[@tccandler]

@@MK-13337 "He only wants to play with a different blind structure"... is like saying Federer wants to play Nadal... only on grass. Or Nadal saying only on clay. Sure, they have an advantage on their preference. My point is that Phil will only play his preference. Daniel doesn't always do that (hence the Polk challenge... and now this).

[@sharkuss845]

@@dnegspoker you are talking about a cash game format now. Phil isn’t a cash game player! He’s a tournament player and is the GOAT in NLH tournament poker! Not Ivey!

[@LLlap]

You have no idea about Project Veritas? Seriously?

[@RemcoBogaard1987]

I really liked Daniel and probably always will like him, but I do must admit I am getting somewhat tired and annoyed on the lectures and attitude towards Phil. You have lost, twice. He was won, twice. Phil has beaten Antonio, 3 times. Really time to give some respect to the man. To me right now, you come across a little bit as a sore loser and I wish you would be less condescending towards Phil. I wish the hosts would stand up a little bit more on this. But again, love u, always will.

[@secretguyoz2]

I love Daniel and Phil. I certainly agree that more respect should be given to Phil.

[@benoitwaffle5439]

When he was getting into the sample size part of his speech, he was getting dangerously close to "If luck wasn't involved I guess I would win every time."😂🤣😂 Phil is an easy villain, and brings the disdain on himself, but he has been winning for 30 years. It is not a sign of weakness or a lack of intellect to have a different style of play. He doesn't have to win 100,000 hands playing four at a time to prove he is successful. He just has to win what is in front of him. I never found Deontay Wilder's style attractive or a prototype for success, but there is just one guy who has been able to take him out. It works for him.

[@izang5800]

Ya its ridiculous. Should we play 100 super bowl games to determine who the better team is? Because 1 game isnt conclusive enough because of variance.

[@izang5800]

Phil is a classy guy. So many people like to discredit his skills including Daniel. What is his response. He thinks all the young guns are great but he says i have a different style and different theories..he doesnt bash or discredit other people. Despite his antics he has a heart gold. No scandals. No cheating. In a very seedy industry. Read his background. His dad has like 4 degrees including a PHD. I think people are jealous of phil to be honest. He has a great life. Great family. Celebrity friends. Infinitely rich and is considered top 10 poker player of all time. Im actually a big Helmuth fan. He is so competitive and hates losing. I actually think that the hate over the years has made him better. He has like 5 bracelets since 2009. Daniel has 0.

[@AgrippaPetronius1903]

Phil sort of exploited Danny’s strategy but hey wha5 do I know ..it was sort of epic actually

[@gvidasgvidas58]

we want TONY G on pokergo

[@awoodruff002]

Really interesting old/new school analysis DNegs, keep ‘em coming! Good luck in Round 3...

[@RustyWells2]

That million that Daniel lost to Doug will make him 5 or more million in the long run that's how much Daniel learned in those matches and how much better he is now!

[@chavez614]

The best heads up match that would break all records would be Phil Helmuth VS Tony G. Tony G got so much under Phil's skin in the big game.

[@hungrymikepencetd5686]

He got rekt again. So sad :/ The greater the anger, the bigger the mouth

[@izang5800]

All Daniel likes to do is discredit people. His ego is so hurt that Helmuth is successful. Yes Helmuth has 0 wpt titles and 0 high roller wins. He also doesnt chose to play those. Maybe it doesnt mean much to him. He also haa a family and kids. His kids are successful in life. Thats better than winning a poker tournament against Chidwick and Fedor. How many kids do you have that are successful in life daniel? Also Helmuth successfully parlayed being a gambler and winning the main event in 1989 to being a very successful businessman and business investor. He is one of the most successful if not the most successful gambler/poker player of all time. I actually respect Helmuth a lot because he isnt obsessed with poker. He plays when he plays ans devotes a lot of time to his family and business ventures. A lot more wholesome than some of these guys that spend all their lives gambling on everything under the sun. Daniel why is your ego so hurt that Helmuth has an image in the public as one of the greats (which he is; 30 years of longevity). Why are you always trying to discredit him and his accomplishments? Its childish...

[@izang5800]

To further explain i mean most successful gambler/poker player of all time i dont mean on the felt. I mean using his brand to make money; investing and building businesses. His net worth is probably $100 million + and i think less than 10% is from poker/gambling

[@gabrielskora9058]

Big fan Daniel, I credit you for getting me interested in the game--even though i've found myself rooting for Phil as the underdog, I really appreciate these insights into balancing ranges, "over folding" (big personal weakness), and deepstack play vs these more short stack matches--its really, really helpful to relatively new players! Thank you sir! and ignore the haters, its possible to like more than one player!

[@benzienugent2010]

It it weren't for luck, Dnegs would win every heads-up battle.

[@winthorpetrois]

I love how Phil said that he has studied poker theories for decades. He has applied some of them to lead this series 2-0. I agree with those who are tired of Daniel's excuses. Daniel's one of the greatest ever, as Phil said. Either he's really insecure, shilling for his product, or both.

[@higgins007]

How about Phil v Tony G!

[@sayeourselves]

Phil hellmuth is your daddy dnegs Its ok man no shame in losing to a clearly superior poker player

[@patl4416]

Old school v GTO These gto guys just don’t get it. Instinct wins every time

[@izang5800]

Live is a battle arena. GTO principals are valuable especially if your opponent is using GTO principals. But live there is meta game, live reads and instinct. Two robots playing against each other need to play perfect GTO to win consistently and not get exploited but live Heads up is a battle arena. That 102 of diamonds hand was the perfect example..it doesnt fit any GTO models as a sensical play but he spent the entire match setting up that 3 bet triple barrel. It was a thing of beauty.

[@Joe-xo4yg]

Give credit where credit is due…. Who’s stopping you, Danny boy?

[@remedythis-dreamworld]

Maybe phil's wife can help you.. she's a psychologist isn't she.

[@blackmagic3807]

Daniel was better when he had some white magic in his play. We all saw him read hands like Nobody in the past (except Phil Helmuth ofcourse). But he lost that somewhat and that’s clearly to see in his play. GTO is very powerful but only as a complementary skill. And he should know that. The basis of poker is playing the player and read him, not if you make the perfect decision according to the mathematical optimum. It’s a bit of a shame to see him finding excuses losing to Phil Helmuth two times(in a row!). He doesn’t need it. If Daniel would find his way back to how he got so far in poker he would be much better than Phil Helmuth. Also during the match you see he loses his faith when he becomes behind. Phil then literally crushes him because he reads Daniel like a book. Daniel becomes insecure and that’s not necessary. Do your thing but respect the Great player that Phil Helmuth obviously is. Just be better, go back to your roots, and also stop that old school new school stuff. It doesn’t help.

[@wrapper2]

1:13:31 That is INCORRECT. Jeff Gillooly was Tanya Harding's husband. The man they hired was Shane Stant.

[@eddiemazza123]

That along with a host of other answers being incorrect most notably 1:14:10 having a 10.9% chance of flopping a flush when it’s actually 0.85%, lmfao

[@wrapper2]

@@eddiemazza123 Read it again. It says flush DRAW, not flush.

[@NV-ME]

We are all touching the same chips and cards. The whole thing was theater.

[@julianproleiko1544]

You should get doug polk to do commentary on your next match with Hellmuth. :)

[@mattfemea1073]

Love the episode guys

[@sanderjutte8493]

Henry Tran vs Luske, Molina vs Gold, Matusow vs Sheikhan, Men the Master vs Tony Guoga, Scotty vs Lindgren, Dwan vs Ivey

[@publicaccount1589]

Phil strategy: Weak-tight until loses to a cooler. Steam-raise with any two without thinking and just PRAY his opponent has nothing as he bombs the flop and turn. Repeat.

[@captaingingerbread3874]

This is why the nonsense Daniel and alot of these other players talk don't get it. Everyone could see after 500 hands that polk was the best player and 25k hands does prove it.

[@winthorpetrois]

Are they testing a program where they auction the top-right spot to sit there and say nothing?

[@ImFlightRisk]

Been listening for over a year. The smugness is unbearable at this point. Isolate half your fanbase much?

[@Stomski]

Dan Bilzerian for HU match on PokerGo?

[@HabibVentures]

How come Daniel hasn't made a video or spoken about his 2nd round loss to Philly boy in hu duel

[@MrScottr1958]

Are you part owner of Poker Go?

[@MK-13337]

There are a lot of jokes about Selbst and Polk being the same person, but jokes aside, Daniel playing Vanessa would be worth watching IMO.

[@thsllsaturate]

Wats up with that one dudes face lmao

[@Sickbluff]

Why do you guys have that guy in there he never gets to talk?

[@remedythis-dreamworld]

i know.. strange...i quit watching...did they even acknowledge he was there?

[@lostmagicdude888]

1:12:20 LOL

[@brilliantbeaches5389]

Good luck at the WSOP Daniel👍

[@marcgovenor4514]

Big fan of Daniel Negreanu, seems to me since " took his game to whole level" as he said. He been losing, and just saying how wrong everyone else is. But he's paying off like broken ATM

[@ivoplsek]

Listening to Daniel, I thought he totally destroyed Phil and won 2:0...then i saw the score...wow...he’s lost face here...he sounds worse than Phil.

[@lostmagicdude888]

41:00 lol I will cancel my pokergo sub if it's die hard people and not people with big names

[@icemanauz]

What was your biggest regret, being Phil Hellmuths ATM, or supporting Joe Biden?

[@pokersensei1245]

Hey guys, since you decided to spend a big chunk of your program sharing your expertise in politics, please use podcast #102 to enlighten your listeners with all the great things Joe Biden and his family and cabinet have done for this country in the last 5 months.

[@winthorpetrois]

First of all, his family is not stealing money from US citizens pretending to have jobs like Ivanka and Jared, for example. Secondly, the country is much healthier physically and emotionally, as his poll numbers reflect. Thirdly, he's working instead of golfing all the time, grifting for his failing businesses, and insulting world leaders.

[@davejust1460]

Fedor Holtz vs Tom Dwan

[@izang5800]

Fedor holz isnt a live cash game heads up sicko. He plays pretty tight and its boring. Isildur vs Dwan heads up is the match to make

[@polok890]

Was that the same guest that they didn't let talk/ include in the conversation last time. So rude

[@winthorpetrois]

Gus Hansen? Is he no longer broke?

[@brianmullins5957]

Confuse your opponents & make them uncomfortable in live poker, sounds like Whomever does this wins match 3 between phil & Daniel.

[@dhanushvijay6339]

Tony g

[@gregmajewski3406]

I love Daniel, but he's making it really hard to root for him in this match. Even IF everything he's saying is true (and that's a big IF), it just comes off so so bad the way he is saying it. I didn't think it was be possible for anyone to make Phil Helmuth look like the good guy.

[@sharkuss845]

Terrence says “Like” too much

[@morphage]

Wow the way Negs talks now is like he was a fucking terrible, almost non-thinking holdem player only a short while ago. As for the K10 hands he told, well one of those a year at that stage undoes a ton of hours of "perfect play", as did his piss weak inability to get Helmuth all-in hardly at all with his 95-5 chiplead.

[@mattenderle1766]

Age 22 to 35 is hard. Id bet against him.

[@Nunya_BizNess]

Funny how all roads lead back to Russia for the truly lost.

[@KenpachiPoker]

The blind don't see what Russia is doing geopolitically

[@Nunya_BizNess]

@@KenpachiPoker the 🐑 cried 🇷🇺 collusion for almost four years when there was none. Then they said Tulsi G. was a Russian Spy. There's a reason why it's called tell a vision programming.

[@KenpachiPoker]

@@Nunya_BizNess did you or are you sheepishly repeating that narrative?

[@Nunya_BizNess]

@@KenpachiPoker pretty obvious narrative. Funny how people that vote for communist dictators don't like them, when it's not their communist dictator. Course not very many did this time, so he had to steal the you know the thing.

[@KenpachiPoker]

@@Nunya_BizNess who is Maria butina? Why were sanctions lifted for oleg deripaskas firm?

[@endabutler]

Why is this mug talking about 10 million hands, and saying a probable 600 buy in swing explains that poker isn’t a skill game and the best player will often lose? Do gg know he’s out here undermining the game? The 30 buy in whupping he got off Doug over 25k hands extrapolates to a 12k buy in loss over 10 milly. 11.4K is skill. 0.6k would be “luck”. He learned nothing from the match. Certainly not sportsmanship. Fancy play syndrome in full effect. It’s so funny to watch him burn through his PS sponsorship earnings.

[@hehehehehehehehehehe2881]

"GTO is really good and powerfull way of playing" - daniel negranu Cant beat anyone in any format, also daniel negranu

[@kevinlynch7861]

Wtf did you evan mean to say. 🥴

[@hehehehehehehehehehe2881]

I meant to say whst i said. How abojt assume youre the dumb one next time. Slowboy

[@maxstewart6183]

He's definitely not put his money where his mouth is recently

[@patl4416]

Completely agree these gto subs, think they have it figured out. In steps Helmuth

[@KenpachiPoker]

He beat polk live

[@slavshuravesky6933]

So Phil was "randomly clicking buttons" with his "ass backwards ranges" and got lucky to beat Antonio three times in a row and Daniel twice? Daniel, please stop. You are losing the respect of your fans. I was looking forward to seeing you hand Phil his ass. But at this point, I am rooting for Phil. Your complete disrespect is just so off-putting.

[@azmer41]

gotta say man i feel like you have lost some perspective .....what happened to results oriented poker?!?!

[@tommyc153]

im way better at golf than jordan speith and justin thomas they just been on a super high varience run the last 10 years and ive been getting unlucky

[@izang5800]

Lol

[@izang5800]

You need a million year sample size to really see who the better golfer is. Lmao

[@tavaresmorales9008]

This seems like a waste of words just like what if this what if that when all we can do is see what happens.

[@chrisg2214]

This heads up format proves nothing. It’s a lot of gamble. Not a big enough sample size.

[@cyberdyne9480]

Go back to your roots Daniel

[@daviddorge1559]

Jeopardy. Big thumbs down gents

[@md.r9300]

i love negreanu