Heart-Centered Leadership: A New Political Paradigm - w/ Marianne Williamson | Know Thyself EP 61

Presidential Candidate Marianne Williamson joins the podcast today to share what a new political paradigm looks like, in a world of heart-centered leadership.
Williamson first ran for president in the 2020 election, where she was heavily criticized by mainstream media for her emphasis on a return to love in governance. Today, as she is running for office again, she shares her perspective on how our current system is broken and what it would look like to create a brighter future for America.
She opens up about her struggles with the media and the judgement of others, revealing what the future of embodied, feminine leadership looks like. She also shares why it is essential for the spiritual community to step up and take a stand for the collective.
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Timecodes:
0:00 Intro
2:03 Breaking Free from the Prison of the Ego Mind
6:09 It's Time to Stop Playing Small
7:13 Our Destined, Collective Return to Love
12:36 Merging a Spiritual Revolution with Real Change
15:04 Why We Need Spiritual People in Politics
21:50 Choosing the High Road within Criticism
23:52 Why Love Must be Fierce
35:26 Challenging the Patriarchal Perspective: Embodied Feminine leadership
42:31 Blackballed by Mainstream Media: The Importance of Political Conversations
45:40 The Dying World and the Birth of a New World
48:43 Thoughts on Robert F Kennedy's Campaign
50:40 Marianne's Action Plan: How We Change America
59:44 Maintaining Inner Peace in the Fire of Politics
1:01:43 Resentment Towards the System and Men
1:02:20 Conclusion
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Marianne Williamson is a bestselling author, political activist, and spiritual thought leader.
For over three decades, she has been a leader in spiritual and religiously progressive circles. She is the author of 15 books, four of which have been #1 New York Times bestsellers.
Williamson founded Project Angel Food, a non-profit organization that has delivered more than 16 million meals to ill and dying homebound patients since 1989. The group was created to help people suffering from the ravages of HIV/AIDS.
She has also worked throughout her career on poverty, anti-hunger and racial reconciliation issues. In 2004, she co-founded The Peace Alliance and supports the creation of a U.S. Department of Peace. Williamson ran for the Democratic nomination for president in 2020.
Website: marianne2024.com
Instagram: / mariannewilliamson
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[@tachibanamei6647]

We need to protect her at all costs

[@aaroncarson1770]

☮️🌍☮️

[@LeePearce-wq6pv]

100%

[@dinomiles7999]

It's not up to us .

[@E.H.Integrations]

I support Marianne 100%. Conscious leadership with someone in touch with both their masculine and feminine aspects is what we have all been waiting for our whole lives.

[@aaroncarson1770]

❤❤❤

[@MindMagick222]

This world NEEDS her!!!

[@aaroncarson1770]

I love those winged hearts KZbin added to the emogi collection. Love in action!

[@ArcadioJacobino]

The voice of the future. Love and strength to you, Marianne Williamson.

[@PatrickLiebeSeele]

Vote for her. God is with her so clearly

[@Onthesummit]

A truly great and remarkable woman. No one else should be president, she is America's only hope.

[@pewpewfruity]

Marianne’s vulnerability, honesty and authenticity is needed in today’s world in order to restore trust in each other and our institutions. I appreciate this convo and I support her 100%

[@joannepalladino5055]

Marianne's voice and views need to be heard! Bless her and all of us! Her share is excellent old distorted paradigm to shift living from the true self / soul / spirit. This is about awakening and being fully realized.

[@anandayogi716]

Marianne I have been following you since 1984 and you have my vote anytime. Much Love and Light ❤

[@Swoozy724]

Thank you so much for giving this beautiful woman a platform. I really would love to see a world where she was the President. Her book “a return to love” is one of my favorite books of all time.

[@TCt83067695]

We can make that a reality

[@Swoozy724]

@@TCt83067695 I totally agree.

[@whatheavensaid]

Marianne, thank you for sharing your vision.

[@whatheavensaid]

She is an excellent candidate because she understands people, psychology, and our destiny.

[@leonildacampanel2206]

Eternamente grata à Marianne por ter me apresentado o livro "Um curso em Milagres"!! Tkank you❤

[@tonybaker2968]

I am a macho man, forty-eight years married to a goddess. Suffice to say, you are becoming, Marianne, as you always are. Becoming The President is a possible outcome. But we don't pray for outcomes. Do we? We pray to do the will of the Holy Spirit. Just keep doing your work with this utmost integrity that is your trademark. There is no way you can fail.

[@izzyc3141]

She is a genius

[@GeminiDragons]

So happy to see this podcast with Marianne Williamson! Heart centered leadership! Yes! Our world needs this! Yes, the old system must crumble to the ground so we can begin to live a new way, one in which we are all equal and sovereign. Here is one way they! 🙏🏻 Thank you André! ⚡️💛⚡️

[@eniko17]

Wow! I have not known of this Lady prior to this video. Impressive. There is something contagious about her. Her vulnerability is a strength and her courage is a rarity in this world. Keep on keeping on......Well done 👏🙌

[@eniko17]

@@1229e8 I will do :)

[@genevievefairchild1516]

What a wonderful way to start my day thank you. Marianne 2024❤️🇺🇸❤️👏👏

[@paulagomez8885]

I briefly met Marianne at a spiritual conference in Texas. That encounter has remained one of my fondest memories in that time of my life. I admire her courage for taking on the political machine which cannot be an easy task. She has the intelligence and spiritual maturity to create real transformative change in our country and our world..❤

[@Mabe-Madness]

I admit I’ve always tried to avoid politics and government because I didn’t believe in it. I really like how she pointed out that that’s part of the problem. Thank you for this video and a fresh perspective on the topic.

[@darinharrison6747]

Thank you for having her! We need a transformational leader in the white house! #Marianne2024

[@hbinfinity]

Sitting in my apartment I can't afford in NorCal. All my savings went to medical bills the last couple years for a problem that was caused by a couple doctors. I'm watching the skies flood with ash. Voting for this woman right here.

[@ruthmamo2733]

Andre, thank you for having Marianne on your podcast. Through you, her brilliance is made visible and highlights your brilliance!!! So grateful to you, for all of your transformational presentations.

[@tommyagresti4797]

The courage of this women is so inspiring!

[@mamalotus8988]

Well alright, my perspective of her changed pretty quickly into this conversation, thanks for having her on. Listen, if Trump’s supporters could get him into office, then there’s a chance that we can get one of our own in there. Let’s go Marianne!

[@peacelovejoy8786]

I believe it! 💙🌊🇺🇲❤️‍🔥

[@FinarfinNoldorin]

Absolutely. See in happening and we can manifest it. We need a more loving society.

[@peacelovejoy8786]

@@FinarfinNoldorin ❤️‍🔥

[@melaniestarkey7868]

​​@@FinarfinNoldorinlet's manifest it😊.

[@virginiaspalter1145]

Wow, thank you for having this conversation. Love you Marianne. You have my support. I hope that we can all see that it is time for a new voice in politics, Marianne I share yours.

[@anandayogi716]

Didn’t know you were running for 2024. Count with my vote. ❤

[@aaroncarson1770]

The media is not totally on board. If you can, search her name whenever you have a moment, and share the stuff.

[@anushkakempken7302]

How exciting… it would be so amazing if more podcasters could share her message… what a powerful leader in this powerful time

[@lisacaprio6302]

I’m so glad you got her on your podcast. She has my support. She is courageous and inspiring

[@peacelovejoy8786]

A Course in Miracles is a magnificent spiritual document, laying out a complete path, picking us up from where we are, and leading us to the Peace of God - the home we have never left. The journey is challenging. Not because the path is hard in and of itself, but because of our resistance to remembering who we are in Truth. The course is written in the Christian language but it's goal is to lead us beyond any religion to a true experience of Peace. I support you Marianne your message is needed now more than ever. In love and gratitude a mighty companion in Oregon🙏💙🇺🇲✌️

[@coolbreeze5683]

I remember being a kid watching her on Oprah in the late 80s/90s. Her perspectives on forgiveness and spirituality really helped me through a lot of stuff in my life.

[@juliaszabados148]

❤ I am Canadian living 30 years in Europe. Just heard about Marianne’s decision to run. I am Blown Away excited !!! A giant step forward for our world ! 🎉❤🎉🕊️💕

[@aaroncarson1770]

I'm also Canadian. I keep offering Americans that I'll trade Trudeau for her, but no takers.

[@sitwithme722]

So thankful you had this interview with Marianne. I love her! The future accepts and welcomes you- Marianne, please stay strong and know that you have so much support even when you feel alone. xx. Underdog, Under God.

[@user-xg1qf2jo8x]

An inspiring and uplifting conversation with an inspiring and uplifting candidate! Marianne is showing us another way. Let's get her to the White House so she can make it happen!

[@chantaltulliez8066]

Amazing woman ❤wishing that Americans may recognise her values🌈🦋👍💕

[@shurburt89]

She would make a wonderful president.

[@kim.aka.kimomu]

thank you for having her on!!! i haven't been politically active in over a decade and now that i know about her i am so excited and i'm gonna find out where i have to go to vote! 😆

[@JaimieShires-jy9qi]

It is so encouraging to see a strong balanced woman like Marianne having the courage and confidence to step forward. It is time for a conscious leader whose intention is for the greatest good of the whole. I for one stand behind her.

[@elltwins3860]

Wow, great great conversation. Thank you both so much for this. At 22 years old, this gives me so much hope. Great great things ahead. Marianne, thank you for your courage and for inspiring this generation#Marianne2024

[@SolodadMaria]

Blessings Andre' for your glowing light and this illuminating conversation with a sistar.....Marianne........I feel her deeply........multidimensionality and non separation is a joyous embrace of the heart......being a strong and resourceful spirit Marianne has all that it takes to be who she is in her natural state.......aaaaaagh....!.......being calm....peaceful and spirited is a task which I would like to see being raised to the ultimate......her ability to joyously enlighten the spark of Divine nature as her "song"........being blessed with her authenticity thro love..........envisioning her transcendent state of an enlightened soul..........confirming her task into human form ......an embodied and masterful source of awakening for all...........blessings and love...........💜

[@cindynyephd1]

Such a great conversation. I love Marianne's ideas and I love her heart. She's exactly who and what our country needs right now!

[@BernardCharles]

I love this so much. I am voting for Marianne Williamson woooooooooo

[@carolyn6728]

Marianne Williamson lives her beliefs, she walks her talk, she speaks directly to the serious problems facing US citizens today, she is the president we have been waiting for!!!

[@mariannirenkristiansen4475]

Love Marianne. Beautiful. Gratitude 🙏🏼❤

[@verasohnikratochwill6314]

Fantastic conversation. I have always said we all need to lock arms. Particularly women. We need to seu it!

[@mvk2020]

Absolutely, we need to come together. Enough competition and siding with the wrong side.

[@peacelovejoy8786]

That's Right! Power to the women of our country ✊️🤜🤛💙

[@irenekuhn1292]

Dear Marianne, best wishes for your campaign and stay connected with the source of love in you.

[@allansowell3413]

Well damn...... A person who gets it in politics.... I'm gunna have to follow her. What a beautiful Convo to have!

[@yare1324]

Thank you for having her on the ahow

[@naomirobinson2748]

Marianna Williamson!!? Are you kidding!? What an epic conversation.

[@melyndacole4172]

This conversation and what she was saying literally gave me chills. I’m just finding out about her and I already have so much love for her and what’s she’s trying to do. ❤

[@aaroncarson1770]

It's a rare political speaker who gives me chills three way she does. Almost like music.

[@melaniestarkey7868]

​@@aaroncarson1770I couldn't agree with you MORE.❤

[@kenclark6894]

I loved this podcast soooo much. She is on to something. We as the esoteric or opened minded have to reclaim the political positions to bring back peace ❤❤❤

[@aaroncarson1770]

Actually the "you go girl" cheering I've seen has been even more coming from young men this cycle to my eye. Quite beautiful.

[@dominikagladala2302]

She is so beautiful inside out and love the topic yes we need to play big 🎉

[@onefitgrit14]

Beautiful conversation!

[@SiriaRomoSiren-pz3zv]

Thank you for this wonderful interview with Marianne. My hope is that more of us wake up to what is really needed at this time 🌎 ❤🙏

[@markfoxwell8670]

I'd vote for her. She's genuine and has a proper plan for America's future. I wish she was British then I would vote for her. 🎉

[@egleeroddis3252]

Thank you so much for giving all of us the opportunity to hear Mariene expressing how we could see the USA to be the example of the rest of the world how she could turn the bone around and take care of the people of America. What of a wonderful foe her to be the president of America. All the best wishes for this beautiful lady ❤

[@ItsMia916]

Beautiful ⭐️💕 This is what we need in the world and in our leaders.

[@kim.aka.kimomu]

i'm gonna send this video to everyone i know

[@leannehorning6163]

Wow, loved this, thank you Andre .. ...I dream of a world where we all practice a Course of Miracles and live "only love is real", I see why we all have to step up now and do our bit, it's time.

[@Kris_-yq9xv]

It's important we are starting to see spiritual leaders like Marianne getting into politics. I don't think we are ready for this on the collective level just yet, but this is a step towards that shift of consciousness and restructuring of our society, which one day hopefully will be possible. ❤️

[@janejohnson8143]

If not now then when? So I say Right here & Right now is the only way out of the darkness and into the light elect in 2024 the first of many female US Presidents! ✌️& ❤

[@peacelovejoy8786]

If not now when!? This couldn't be a better time 🔵🟣

[@peacelovejoy8786]

​@@janejohnson8143 Yaaas! We can make a huge difference 2024💋✊️

[@citro46]

Just 5 minutes in and this woman definitely understands the ego and the state of humanity. I wonder if she's gnostic?

[@elsierodgers4419]

My husband likes you Marianne! You have his vote!

[@lourdesmatias9629]

True, on the economic tyranny. Homelessness, and sky rocket rents, the average worker can't afford rent, mass evictions, I would like to see a President who can stop the abusive housing managements landlords, real estate brokers. The elderly are being evicted.

[@overhurd]

Love Maryann. USA needs her values.

[@peacelovejoy8786]

*Marianne

[@sfviris5582]

She’s endlessly fascinating to me-always. Let’s go, Marianne!

[@esthersanchez2264]

Thank U Andre, hope and inspiration has been restored. I was deeply moved by the fact that Marianne spoke up when it was necessary. She witnessed the open hearts of the contributors by courageously bringing up the dark side the country. Thank U Marianne for learning how to ignore the malicious cruel critics that are probably more in tune with fear than love. ❤

[@journeytobetterjes_erazo87]

Great interview. The conversation just flowed. Very well done . Thank you

[@larsstougaard7097]

Love this talk, we need to be fierce, hold and create the new😊

[@rmariacarlson]

Amazing! So grateful for this conversation and all its implications! Well demonstrated, Marianne. Thank You!!!

[@Natura11yalignedliving]

Yessss André 🙏 thank you so much for sharing Marianne on your platform!

[@erinpankey3767]

Brilliant conversation! Excellent questipns Andre!! I appreciate that you gave Marianne a chance to be heard in your community!!

[@emmazafiracasandra2161]

This is such an inspiring talk! Wow, thank you to both of you. Andre and Marianne. I am from Denmark and I just shared this on my Facebook wall. Small waves rippling around the world 🔥🙏🦋 love from Denmark.

[@rachelraspberrymusic3711]

A deeply powerful and important conversation. This is my favorite interview yet!

[@SotiriaSelisiou]

Thank you for uploading this interview, with such a profound voice as Marriane's. We so much need this aspect on politics!!!!!!

[@rekanagy4609]

Thank you for inviting Her❤

[@melissarosario2936]

THIS EPISODE is so englightening and real. I am soul glad you had her on your podcast. ❤

[@dannyhampel3775]

Courageous interview, a deep dive surrounding the possibility of change. Excellent podcast.

[@CarlaRomeroCrochet]

Oh my god so much compassion for her right now!

[@rochellebroglen4155]

Thank you so much for hosting this conversation. I believe we're on the cusp of major transformation. I agree with Marianne's assessment that spiritual voices must move to the mainstream. As someone who was deeply unconscious, until about 10 years ago, I disagree with Marianne's sentiment that humanity's level of consciousness has already evolved. Yes, there are many who are living conscious lives, but I believe there are many who are currently navigating spiritual awakenings. Also, the spiritual community is home to many who believe themselves to be spiritually awakened, but are still identified with the ego, lack emotional intelligence, and have yet to do honest self-inquiry. I believe one of the reasons why things are getting more difficult is because many are being called to awaken. Wake up calls can be painful. I love that so many in the younger generations arw being born with an expanded awareness, especially around the areas of self-worth, empathy, and compassion. These sensitive Souls never adopted the paradigms of their parents and recognize that worthiness is inherent, not something to be earned. Creating safe spaces and a healthy frame of reference, for our future leaders, is so important. In any case, thank you so much for this episode. I think it's a necessary conversation and I'd love to see Marianne receive more airtime. Blessings 🙏 Thank you for the work you do.

[@esthersanchez2264]

❤ Great request, great comment.

[@peacelovejoy8786]

You know it sister❤️‍🔥

[@simonesenisin9391]

Bravo Marianne, such integrity. I do hope the people of the US take your offer 👏.

[@riverlea811]

Bravo Andre! I appreciate your willingness not to follow in the foot steps of others. Thank you Marianne for your courage!

[@TedGeiss]

Thank you!! Great interview!!

[@fromashesphoenixrose]

Marianne as President would be a dream come true for me. I love and respect her so much. ✨🙏🏼

[@aaroncarson1770]

Mine too

[@Bflo100]

She’s amazing

[@theyellowhouse3569]

I must admit, I’ve been burying my head in the sand a little, I avoid all media as it really makes me sad to hear what is going on in the world. Marianne is so brave and amazing, imagine the courage it takes to stand up to the existing system and the men in power. Marianne you have my total respect, you are amazing.

[@mary-anncarleton7578]

We love you Marianne

[@miamaria3999]

We so need a leader who leads from the heart, not Ego. Only someone with this kind of integrity and compassion and morality can bring this divided country together.

[@laurenselsky3538]

This is such a great interview. I love her.

[@heidilight3636]

Marianne Williamson will be THE BEST and most needed president ever!

[@aaroncarson1770]

In her interview with Marianne, Lena Franklin said we're going to rally the sisters. Let's do this!

[@peacelovejoy8786]

And you know we will!!! Pinky swear 👈

[@aaroncarson1770]

​@@peacelovejoy8786you got it girlfriend!

[@pavita_br]

wonderful conversation! thank you both so much for provoking the best in me and so many people ♥

[@xstephtrinhity]

Arguably your post powerful podcast yet!!

[@sethbarkman]

Love this interview. There are too many reasons to list. Thank you Andre and Marianne!!! Both of you keep working hard at all the good you do. You have both changed me in positive ways and i know I'm not the only one.

[@user-ts1sw6qy4c]

Awesome! Godspeed, Marianne! You're exactly the kind of first woman President we need! I will be supporting you, and your words spoke to me about getting involved.

[@violettemartinez7796]

It's a time to have guts, and she has.And we need to show we have too. I support and look forward to see this kind of person coming forward, in France (which is highly needed , two mandates with M. is a torture for people in my country) or anywhere in the world.

[@caroleschaefer2203]

Thank you, Marianne. I love you.

[@alexanderkesterson6338]

I want Marrianne and Bobby in the white house i think that duo would flip the system on its head with Bobby's legal experience finding loopholes and using his resources to force change and Marrianne to really help set direction towards a brighter future for our children.

[@rememberDay1]

THANK YOU Andre and Marianne!! The small self feels threatened by the big self.

[@careyharben7865]

I feel it is so time for this; Marianne is so wise courageous Fierce and caring ; is it not time for a change ; will it not Be refreshing and interesting To say yes to a Williamson transformation administration !

[@jeffjones5960]

ACIM is my most precious (and most challenging) spiritual message I have ever encountered. This conversation between members of the “spirituality community “ was so refreshing, thank you both . One thing I WANT to hear MORE of in the coming campaign is exactly the terminology of “ sister/brotherhood “ this speaks not only to “the spirituality tribe” but also to the democratic socialist tradition in America too. Take a cue from the race equality4 movement . ( And gender equality movement ) Americans need to be reminded and often . We are “brothers “ and “sisters “ not simply voters ! These words have political power as well as spiritual.

[@activationswithjj]

Let’s gooo!! We do need to take action! 🎉🎉🎉 Thank you, Marianne, for identifying a shadow of the spiritual community…this is COLLECTIVE ascension!!

[@andrearenee7845]

😇🥰A Return To Love... It says it all. Marianne is awesome..This nation needs to heal.